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* '''Lampshaded''': ???

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* '''Lampshaded''': ???BlackMagicianGirl Marcy sighs as Alice tells Baron von Bloodlust to go fuck himself.
--> '''Marcy''': Alice, telling him to go fuck himself is gonna go nowhere. Though I'd pay a lot to see that happen, heh...
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** The Baron makes absolutely damned sure Alice falls in battle (hopefully the first to die) in order to skip over the whole "bloodied but unbowed" part of inevitably [[InspirationalMartyr making her a martyr]].
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'''Basic Trope''': Character is captured, but will not cooperate with the captors, no matter what fate may befall this person.

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'''Basic Trope''': Character is captured, at another's mercy, but will not cooperate with the captors, never cooperate, no matter what fate may befall this person.them.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Alice has a bad relationship with her father [[GoodCounterpart Baron Von Strohiem]] in part because her impulsive behavior constantly endangers both her and her siblings. He frowned upon the idea of Alice joining the fight again Von Bloodlust. When Bloodlust realizes that Alice was Strohiems offspring, he sends a message to Strohiem describing her execution, [[BrutalHonesty how defiant she was]] and that [[BlatantLies he would have spared her had she not spit on his face]]. Strohiem goes through a mental breakdown trying to process this.

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* '''Played For Drama''': Alice has a bad relationship with her father [[GoodCounterpart Baron Von Strohiem]] in part because her impulsive behavior constantly endangers both her and her siblings. He frowned upon the idea of Alice joining the fight again Von Bloodlust. When Bloodlust realizes that Alice was Strohiems offspring, Strohiem's daugther, he sends a message to Strohiem describing her execution, [[BrutalHonesty how defiant she was]] and that [[BlatantLies he would have spared her had she not spit on his face]]. Strohiem goes through a mental breakdown trying to process this.
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* '''Lampshaded''': The Baron wonders why prisoners have to be so snarky.

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* '''Lampshaded''': The Baron wonders why prisoners have to be so snarky.???



* '''Discussed''': "That sonofa-" "Alice, don't try it. He'll kill us all anyway, there's no point."

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* '''Discussed''': ** "That sonofa-" "Alice, don't try it. He'll kill us all anyway, there's no point.""
* '''Discussed''': The Baron wonders why prisoners have to be so snarky.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice declares that she'll never join baron. Baron coolly comments that he believes her and has her immediately executed on the spot. Alice starts to beg for mercy, but when the Baron starts to ask what she'll do, she says she was kidding, and spits in his eye.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice declares that she'll never join baron. Baron Baron. He coolly comments that he believes her and has her immediately executed on the spot. Alice starts to beg for mercy, but when the Baron starts to ask what she'll do, she says she was kidding, and spits in his eye.
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** [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour The Baron tortures Alice (and worse) to ensure she loses her defiance, before killing her.]] As long as she continues to resist, he will keep her alive longer just so he can continue to torture and break her.
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** Alice's defiance is actively detrimental to her own cause. Instead of manning up, [[KnowWhenToFoldEm accepting her defat, cutting her losses]], and regrouping to recover from her failure and plan for a better attempt next time, she throws away the lives of her supporters for [[DoomedMoralVictor a meaningless display of self-sacrifice that doesn't actually accomplish anything]].

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** Alice's defiance is actively detrimental to her own cause. Instead of manning up, [[KnowWhenToFoldEm accepting her defat, defeat, cutting her losses]], and regrouping to recover from her failure and plan for a better attempt next time, she throws away the lives of her supporters for [[DoomedMoralVictor a meaningless display of self-sacrifice that doesn't actually accomplish anything]].
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** The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.

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** The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess [[HypnotizeTheCaptive hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Defiance does nothing. It won't stop the Baron from torturing Alice, and it won't stop Alice from dying a horrible death. It won’t stop the Baron from continuing his injustices upon the people and Alice’s rebellion may as well not even be remembered. This is something the Baron will make sure to remind everybody from now on.

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Defiance does nothing. It won't stop the Baron from torturing Alice, and it won't stop Alice from dying a horrible death. It won’t stop the Baron from continuing his injustices upon the people and Alice’s rebellion may as well not even be remembered. This is something the Baron will make sure to remind everybody from now on.on.
** Alice's defiance is actively detrimental to her own cause. Instead of manning up, [[KnowWhenToFoldEm accepting her defat, cutting her losses]], and regrouping to recover from her failure and plan for a better attempt next time, she throws away the lives of her supporters for [[DoomedMoralVictor a meaningless display of self-sacrifice that doesn't actually accomplish anything]].

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* '''Conversed''': "I feel like Alice's final act of defiance cements her character very well"

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"I feel like Alice's final act of defiance cements her character very well"well"
** "You know, it doesn't matters [[PrecisionFStrike how precise it's supposed to be]], telling a guy about to kill you that he can go fuck himself has become [[LameLastWords a pretty laughable cliche]]."

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Baron Von Bloodlust demands Alice kneel before him to spare her life. She responds with a GroinAttack that causes him to double over and destroy all of his priceless art.

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Laughs''':
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Baron Von Bloodlust demands Alice kneel before him to spare her life. She responds with a GroinAttack that causes him to double over and destroy all of his priceless art.art.
** Baron Von Bloodlust wants Alice to give him a two-dollar discount on her Girl Scout cookies. [[SeriousBusiness Alice refuses with the same gravitas as if he was interrogating her for nuclear launch codes.]]

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* '''Inverted''': Alice is already prepared to submit to The Baron before he can even demand anything from her.

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** The Baron refuses to demand that Alice surrender, no matter how much she begs him to let her do so.
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Alice is already prepared to submit to The Baron before he can even demand anything from her.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Defiance does nothing. It won't stop the Baron from torturing Alice, and it won't stop Alice from dying a horrible death. And this is something the Baron will make sure to remind everybody from now on.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Defiance does nothing. It won't stop the Baron from torturing Alice, and it won't stop Alice from dying a horrible death. And this It won’t stop the Baron from continuing his injustices upon the people and Alice’s rebellion may as well not even be remembered. This is something the Baron will make sure to remind everybody from now on.
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* '''Inverted''': The Baron refuses to demand that Alice surrender, no matter how much she begs him to let her do so.

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* '''Inverted''': Alice is already prepared to submit to The Baron refuses to before he can even demand that Alice surrender, no matter how much she begs him to let her do so.anything from her.

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* '''Averted''': The Baron doesn't demand anything, just orders Alice taken to the stockade.

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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The Baron doesn't demand anything, just orders Alice taken to the stockade.stockade.
** The Baron is a TortureTechnician and intends for Alice to submit to his will, so he simply breaks her.



* '''Defied''': The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
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The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.



* The Baron is a TortureTechnician and intends for Alice to submit to his will, so he simply breaks her.
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* '''Straight''': Alice is taken prisoner by [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Baron Von Bloodlust]], who says she will be spared if she [[KneelBeforeZod kneels and declares to be his vassal]]. Alice spits in his eye.

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* '''Straight''': Alice is taken prisoner by [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Baron Von Bloodlust]], who says she will be spared if she [[KneelBeforeZod kneels and declares to be his vassal]]. Alice [[SpitefulSpit spits in his eye.eye]] in response.

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* '''Defied''':
** The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.

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'''Defied''': The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.



** What the Baron does to Alice ''because'' of her defiance is so nightmarish that people [[MakeAnExampleOfThem learn their lesson]], and nobody else tries to act that way ever again.

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** What the * The Baron does to is a TortureTechnician and intends for Alice ''because'' of her defiance is to submit to his will, so nightmarish that people [[MakeAnExampleOfThem learn their lesson]], and nobody else tries to act that way ever again.he simply breaks her.



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"That sonofa-" "Alice, don't try it. He'll kill us all anyway, there's no point."
* '''Conversed''': ???"I feel like Alice's final act of defiance cements her character very well"



* '''Played For Laughs''': Baron Von Bloodlust demands Alice kneel before him to spare her life. She responds with a GroinAttack that causes him to double over and destroy all of his priceless art.



* '''Played For Horror''': What the Baron [[ColdBloodedTorture does to]] [[Room101 Alice]] ''[[CruelAndUnusualDeath because]]'' [[ToThePain of her defiance]] is so nightmarish that other prisoners [[MakeAnExampleOfThem learn their lesson]], and nobody acts that way ever again.



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* '''Reconstructed''': Alice understands that her fate is inescapable. She acts defiant as a means of showing she is not afraid of Baron Von Bloodlust, to not feel utterly humiliated in light of her inevitable CruelAndUnusualDeath, and to send a message to the Baron that the heroic army will never submit to his will.
* '''Played For Drama''': Alice has a bad relationship with her father [[GoodCounterpart Baron Von Strohiem]] in part because her impulsive behavior constantly endangers both her and her siblings. He frowned upon the idea of Alice joining the fight again Von Bloodlust. When Bloodlust realizes that Alice was Strohiems offspring, he sends a message to Strohiem describing her execution, [[BrutalHonesty how defiant she was]] and that [[BlatantLies he would have spared her had she not spit on his face]]. Strohiem goes through a mental breakdown trying to process this.



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** The Baron blows Alice's brains out before she can even think of giving him a DeathGlare, let alone something more substantial like foul language.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice declares that she'll never join baron. Baron coolly comments that he believes her and has her immediately executed on the spot.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice declares that she'll never join baron. Baron coolly comments that he believes her and has her immediately executed on the spot. Alice starts to beg for mercy, but when the Baron starts to ask what she'll do, she says she was kidding, and spits in his eye.



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* '''Lampshaded''': ???The Baron wonders why prisoners have to be so snarky.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Alice declares that she'll never join baron. Baron coolly comments that he believes her and has her immediately executed on the spot.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Defiance does nothing. It won't stop the Baron from torturing Alice, and it won't stop Alice from dying a horrible death. And this is something the Baron will make sure to remind everybody from now on.
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** What the Baron does to Alice ''because'' of her defiance is so nightmarish that people [[MakeAnExampleOutOfThem learn their lesson]], and nobody else tries to act that way ever again.

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** What the Baron does to Alice ''because'' of her defiance is so nightmarish that people [[MakeAnExampleOutOfThem [[MakeAnExampleOfThem learn their lesson]], and nobody else tries to act that way ever again.
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** What the Baron does to Alice ''because'' of her defiance is so nightmarish that people [[MakeAnExampleOutOfThem learn their lesson]], and nobody else tries to act that way ever again.

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* '''Justified''': Alice was stalling, so that her people could finish their evacuation.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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Alice was stalling, so that her people could finish their evacuation.evacuation.
** Nothing Alice does will change her execution, so why not?
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** The Baron is a jerk, but not a monster, so Alice doesn't think it's a good idea telling him off.

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** The Baron is a jerk, but not a monster, so Alice doesn't think it's isn't going to be rude to the Baron. He's just a good idea telling him off.commander who happens to be on the other side. So Alice will just politely turn down his request to surrender.
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** What the Baron does to Alice ''because'' of her defiance is so nightmarish that people call her stupid for having done so, and nobody else tries to act that way ever again.

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** What the The Baron does to is a jerk, but not a monster, so Alice ''because'' of her defiance is so nightmarish that people call her stupid for having done so, and nobody else tries to act that way ever again.doesn't think it's a good idea telling him off.

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* '''Defied''': The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
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The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.demands.
** What the Baron does to Alice ''because'' of her defiance is so nightmarish that people call her stupid for having done so, and nobody else tries to act that way ever again.
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'''Basic Trope''': Character is captured, but will not cooperate with the captors, no matter what fate may befall this person.
* '''Straight''': Alice is taken prisoner by [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Baron Von Bloodlust]], who says she will be spared if she [[KneelBeforeZod kneels and declares to be his vassal]]. Alice spits in his eye.
* '''Exaggerated''': Even after being executed, Alice's ghost haunts the baron, driving him bonkers.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice just shrugs, and says that she'll think about it.
* '''Justified''': Alice was stalling, so that her people could finish their evacuation.
* '''Inverted''': The Baron refuses to demand that Alice surrender, no matter how much she begs him to let her do so.
* '''Subverted''': Alice just stands up, after being told to kneel, but then gets into a proper bow before the Baron.
* '''Double Subverted''': This was to help set up Alice's stance, so she could slip out of her bonds and fight the guards.
* '''Parodied''': The guards grabbed Alice's armor, but she wasn't in it, and it takes even the Baron a few minutes to realize it, after furiously demanding her submission, and getting silence.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': The Baron doesn't demand anything, just orders Alice taken to the stockade.
* '''Enforced''': Alice's actress is known for her [[DeadpanSnarker hilarious zingers]], and this scene was written just so she could lob a few at the Baron.
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* '''Exploited''': The Baron was just looking for an excuse to do some ColdBloodedTorture today (doing it to just anyone would be a GenreBlind mistake), and having Alice refuse to submit was the perfect reason.
* '''Defied''': The Baron decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize Alice]], just so that she would submit to his demands.
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