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* '''Played for Horror''': Killfrenzy shows how far gone he is from idealistic young Alex when he MindRape[=s=] Bob.
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* '''Played for Horror''': Killfrenzy shows how far gone he is from idealistic young Alex when he MindRape[=s=] {{Mind Rape}}s Bob.
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** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealization and [[HeelFaceTurn turned to the side of good]]. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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** Our hero TheHero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealization and [[HeelFaceTurn turned to the side of good]]. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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** Bob appears to be benevolent but turns to be a vicious KnightTemplar, and the reason why he considers Alex "evil" is because he had the guts [[DefectorFromDecadence to abandon him when he found out about it]].
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** Bob appears to be benevolent but turns to be is in fact a vicious KnightTemplar, and the reason why he considers Alex "evil" is because he had the guts [[DefectorFromDecadence to abandon him when he found out about it]].
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** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping the {{Muggles}}, and decided "ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight"
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** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not never helping the {{Muggles}}, and decided "ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight"
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** ...because Alex thinks they should be used to TakeOverTheWorld.
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** ...because Alex thinks they should be used to TakeOverTheWorld.
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** Bob is a KnightTemplar, but the lengths to which Alex had to go to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackAndGrayMorality even worse than Bob]]. Or Bob may have come back from the edge in the meantime and Alex either didn't know or didn't care.
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** Bob is a KnightTemplar, but the lengths to which Alex had to go went to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackAndGrayMorality even worse than Bob]]. Or Bob may have come back from the edge in the meantime and Alex either didn't know or didn't care.neither knew nor cared.
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** Alex lied about wanting to help the Muggles, or his supposition that he'd be helping them was simply erroneous.
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** Alex lied about wanting to help the Muggles, or his supposition that he was wrong to think he'd be helping them was simply erroneous.them.
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** Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a {{Rival Turned|Evil}} AffablyEvil and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to rein him in.
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** Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a {{Rival Turned|Evil}} AffablyEvil and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to rein him in.
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** Alex doesn't leave Bob.
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** Alex doesn't leave Bob. Maybe they never had the mentor–mentee relationship; maybe they maintain their commitment to it throughout the story; maybe Bob just succumbs to the MentorOccupationalHazard.
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* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- whenever a student of Bob's tries to rebel, he [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim kills him immediately]] because HeKnowsTooMuch.
* '''Discussed''': "And this year's award for Most Likely to Turn Evil and Become a Nemesis Feared All the More Because [[WeUsedToBeFriends You Were]] [[EvilFormerFriend Once a Friend]] goes to ... Alex!"
* '''Discussed''': "And this year's award for Most Likely to Turn Evil and Become a Nemesis Feared All the More Because [[WeUsedToBeFriends You Were]] [[EvilFormerFriend Once a Friend]] goes to ... Alex!"
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* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- whenever a student of Bob's when Alex tries to rebel, he Bob [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim kills him immediately]] because HeKnowsTooMuch.
* '''Discussed''': "And this year's award forMost 'Most Likely to Turn Evil and Become a Nemesis Feared All the More Because [[WeUsedToBeFriends You Were]] [[EvilFormerFriend Once a Friend]] Friend]]' goes to ... Alex!"
* '''Discussed''': "And this year's award for
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* '''Played for Horror''': Killfrenzy shows how far gone he is from idealistic young Alex when he {{Mind Rape}}s Bob.
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* '''Played for Horror''': Killfrenzy shows how far gone he is from idealistic young Alex when he {{Mind Rape}}s MindRape[=s=] Bob.
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-->'''Bob:''' So, we meet again. I see you still can't keep your wrist straight...
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-->'''Bob:''' So, we meet again. I see you still can't keep your wrist straight...straight.
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-->'''Bob:''' Watch that mouth, or I'll have you {{writing lines}}.
-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' [[FateWorseThanDeath Wh--You can't ... Aaargh!]]
-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' [[FateWorseThanDeath Wh--You can't ... Aaargh!]]
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-->'''Bob:''' Watch that mouth, or I'll have you {{writing lines}}.
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-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' [[FateWorseThanDeath Wh--You can't ... ]] [[FauxHorrific Aaargh!]]
-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' [[FateWorseThanDeath Wh--You can't ...
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** Bob appears to be benevolent but turns to be a vicious KnightTemplar, and the reason why he considers Alex "evil" is because he had the guts [[DefectorFromDecadence to abandon him when he found about it]].
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** Bob appears to be benevolent but turns to be a vicious KnightTemplar, and the reason why he considers Alex "evil" is because he had the guts [[DefectorFromDecadence to abandon him when he found out about it]].
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* '''Enforced''': The BigBad is meant as a ShadowArchetype to TheHero, and having them share a mentor shows their opposite reactions to the same upbringing.
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* '''Enforced''': The BigBad is meant as a ShadowArchetype to TheHero, and having them share a mentor shows their opposite reactions to the [[MirrorCharacter same upbringing.upbringing]].
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob's first pupil joins a rival team with Bob's teaching, said team is just TheRival and not necessarily evil.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Bob's first pupil joins a rival team with Bob's teaching, said team is just TheRival and not necessarilyevil.evil.
** Alex becomes an AntiHero after finishing his apprenticeship under Bob, who is TheCape.
** Bob's first pupil joins a rival team with Bob's teaching, said team is just TheRival and not necessarily
** Alex becomes an AntiHero after finishing his apprenticeship under Bob, who is TheCape.
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** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping [[{{Muggles}} those outside the masquerade]], and decided "ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight"
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** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping [[{{Muggles}} those outside the masquerade]], {{Muggles}}, and decided "ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight"
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** Bob is a KnightTemplar, but the lengths to which Alex had to go to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackAndGrayMorality even worse than Bob]].
*** Or Bob may have come back from the edge in the meantime and Alex either didn't know or didn't care.
*** Or Bob may have come back from the edge in the meantime and Alex either didn't know or didn't care.
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** Bob is a KnightTemplar, but the lengths to which Alex had to go to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackAndGrayMorality even worse than Bob]].
***Bob]]. Or Bob may have come back from the edge in the meantime and Alex either didn't know or didn't care.
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** Alex lied about wanting to help the people outside the masquerade.
** Alex pursued his project ''even after Bob told him to stop it'' and ''knowing he would be punished for doing it''. [[NeverMyFault He blames Bob and/or other instructors for the negative consequences he incurred.]]
** Alex pursued his project ''even after Bob told him to stop it'' and ''knowing he would be punished for doing it''. [[NeverMyFault He blames Bob and/or other instructors for the negative consequences he incurred.]]
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** Alex lied about wanting to help the people outside the masquerade.
Muggles, or his supposition that he'd be helping them was simply erroneous.
** Alex pursued his project ''even after Bob told him to stop it'' and ''knowing he would be punished for doing it''. [[NeverMyFault He blames Boband/or other instructors for the negative consequences he incurred.his having been punished.]]
** Alex pursued his project ''even after Bob told him to stop it'' and ''knowing he would be punished for doing it''. [[NeverMyFault He blames Bob
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** Bob acts this way about the fact that he trained his now-professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[FelonyMisdemeanor can really be described as "evil"...]]
** Bob's apprentices invariably turn evil--Alex, Alice, all before them, and anyone after--for no good reason, but Bob keeps taking in apprentices hoping that eventually, one of them won't turn into a world-conquering villain.
** Bob's apprentices invariably turn evil--Alex, Alice, all before them, and anyone after--for no good reason, but Bob keeps taking in apprentices hoping that eventually, one of them won't turn into a world-conquering villain.
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** Bob acts this way about the fact that he trained his now-professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis. SitcomArchNemesis once worked for him. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[FelonyMisdemeanor can really be described as "evil"..."evil".]]
** Bob's apprentices invariably turn evil--Alex, Alice, and all those beforethem, and anyone after--for after them--for no good reason, but Bob keeps taking in apprentices hoping that eventually, one of them won't turn into a world-conquering villain.
** Bob's apprentices invariably turn evil--Alex, Alice, and all those before
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** Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a {{Rival Turned|Evil}} AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.
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** Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a {{Rival Turned|Evil}} AffablyEvil, AffablyEvil and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to reign rein him in.
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** Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, nobody on either of which has ever been friends with the other.
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** Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, nobody on either of which has ever been friends with anyone on the other.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Ohhh, you guys have an [[Franchise/StarWars Obi-Wan/Darth Vader]] thing goin' on? Well, I for one am much more invested in this conflict now that ItsPersonal."
* '''Invoked''': The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would be either killed, emotionally devastated, or at the very least, one ally short.
* '''Exploited''': Alex turned away from Bob of his own volition, but the bad guys picked him out because his connection to Bob could become useful.
* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- whenever a student of Bob's tries to rebel, he [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim kills him immediately]] because HeKnowsTooMuch.
* '''Invoked''': The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would be either killed, emotionally devastated, or at the very least, one ally short.
* '''Exploited''': Alex turned away from Bob of his own volition, but the bad guys picked him out because his connection to Bob could become useful.
* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- whenever a student of Bob's tries to rebel, he [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim kills him immediately]] because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
** "Ohhh, you guys have an [[Franchise/StarWarsObi-Wan/Darth Obi-Wan and Darth Vader]] thing goin' on? Well, I I, for one one, am much more invested in this conflict now that ItsPersonal."
** "Alex ... I wondered when we'd meet again." "''[[ThatManIsDead I'm not Alex. I'm Lord Killfrenzy.]]''"
* '''Invoked''': The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would beeither killed, emotionally devastated, or at the very least, one ally short.
* '''Exploited''': After Alexturned turns away from Bob of his own volition, but Bob, the bad guys picked recruit him out because his connection to Bob could become useful.
* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- whenever a student of Bob's tries to rebel, he[[WhyDontYaJustShootHim [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim kills him immediately]] because HeKnowsTooMuch.
** "Ohhh, you guys have an [[Franchise/StarWars
** "Alex ... I wondered when we'd meet again." "''[[ThatManIsDead I'm not Alex. I'm Lord Killfrenzy.]]''"
* '''Invoked''': The BigBad deliberately [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] one of his rival's closest allies as a XanatosGambit: whichever of them won, Bob would be
* '''Exploited''': After Alex
* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- whenever a student of Bob's tries to rebel, he
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* '''Played for Drama''': Bob remembers he saw Alex as LikeASonToMe, Alex remembers he saw Bob as a ParentalSubstitute, or both, and they now angst about having to fight each other.
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* '''Played for Horror''': Killfrenzy shows how far gone he is from idealistic young Alex when he {{Mind Rape}}s Bob.
* '''Played for Drama''': Bob remembers he saw Alex as LikeASonToMe, Alex remembers he saw Bob as a ParentalSubstitute, or both, and they now angst about having to fight eachother.other eventually.
* '''Played for Drama''': Bob remembers he saw Alex as LikeASonToMe, Alex remembers he saw Bob as a ParentalSubstitute, or both, and they now angst about having to fight each
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* '''Implied''': Alex's origins are never revealed, but he seems to be very familiar with Bob, and with a very similar fighting style.
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* '''Implied''': Alex's origins are never revealed, but he seems to be very familiar with Bob, Bob and with has a very similar fighting style.
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** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation and turned to the side of good. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation HeelRealization and [[HeelFaceTurn turned to the side of good.good]]. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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** Alex is considered evil because he killed Draco, who used to be Bob's most brilliant pupil. However, as the story progresses, we discover that Draco was a double agent sent to infiltrate Bob's dojo and murder him when he least expected it. Alex found out about his plan, [[SuperDickery and had to kill him to protect his master]].
** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping [[{{Muggles}} those outside the masquerade]].
** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping [[{{Muggles}} those outside the masquerade]].
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** Alex is considered evil because he killed Draco, who used to be Bob's most brilliant pupil. However, as the story progresses, we discover that Draco was [[TheMole a double agent agent]] sent to infiltrate Bob's dojo and murder him when he least expected it. Alex found out about his plan, [[SuperDickery and had to kill him to protect his master]].
** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping [[{{Muggles}} those outside themasquerade]].masquerade]], and decided "ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight"
** What Bob describes as rebellion was a case of Alex making a project related to the fundamentals and/or applications of his training.
** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping [[{{Muggles}} those outside the
** What Bob describes as rebellion was a case of Alex making a project related to the fundamentals and/or applications of his training.
*** Or Bob may have come back from the edge in the meantime and Alex either didn't know or didn't care.
** Alex pursued his project ''even after Bob told him to stop it'' and ''knowing he would be punished for doing it''. [[NeverMyFault He blames Bob and/or other instructors for the negative consequences he incurred.]]
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** Bob's apprentices invariably turn evil--Alex, Alice, and anyone after these two--for no good reason, but Bob keeps taking in apprentices hoping that eventually, one of them won't turn into a world-conquering villain.
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** Bob's apprentices invariably turn evil--Alex, Alice, all before them, and anyone after these two--for after--for no good reason, but Bob keeps taking in apprentices hoping that eventually, one of them won't turn into a world-conquering villain.
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** Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.
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** Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] {{Rival Turned|Evil}} AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.
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-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' Wh--You can't ... Aaargh!
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-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' Wh--You [[FateWorseThanDeath Wh—You can't ... Aaargh!Aaargh!]]
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* '''Straight''': Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself Lord Killfrenzy.
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* '''Straight''': Alice's mentor Bob tells her the story of his first pupil, Alex, who turned against his master when his heart was corrupted by power. That Man Is, of course, the BigBad now styling himself [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Lord Killfrenzy.Killfrenzy]].
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* '''Justified''': Bob is the last Master of a DangerousForbiddenTechnique - forbidden because it can drive the weak-minded mad with power. For Killfrenzy, ItsPersonal, and for Bob, a new student needs to be around to keep Alex in check once Bob has died.
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* '''Justified''': Bob is the last Master of a DangerousForbiddenTechnique - -- forbidden because it can drive the weak-minded mad with power. For Killfrenzy, ItsPersonal, and for Bob, a new student needs to be around to keep Alex in check once Bob has died.
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** Alex isn't really "evil", he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.
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** Alex isn't really "evil", evil, he just disagrees with Bob's use of his powers.
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** The reason why Alex is considered evil is because he killed Draco, who used to be Bob's most brilliant pupil. However, as the story progresses, we discover that Draco was a double agent sent to infiltrate Bob's dojo and murder him when he least expected it. Alex found out about his plan, [[{{Superdickery}} and had to kill him in order to protect his master]].
** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-masquerade - Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping those outside the masquerade.
** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-masquerade - Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping those outside the masquerade.
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** The reason why Alex is considered evil is because he killed Draco, who used to be Bob's most brilliant pupil. However, as the story progresses, we discover that Draco was a double agent sent to infiltrate Bob's dojo and murder him when he least expected it. Alex found out about his plan, [[{{Superdickery}} [[SuperDickery and had to kill him in order to protect his master]].
** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob waspro-masquerade - pro-{{masquerade}} -- Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping [[{{Muggles}} those outside the masquerade.masquerade]].
** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was
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** Bob is a KnightTemplar, but the lengths Alex had to go to to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackandGrayMorality even worse than Bob]].
** Alex framed Draco as an inflitrator so he would have an excuse to kill him. VictorGainsLosersPowers is in effect and he wanted Draco's skill and {{mana}} for himself.
** Alex framed Draco as an inflitrator so he would have an excuse to kill him. VictorGainsLosersPowers is in effect and he wanted Draco's skill and {{mana}} for himself.
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** Bob is a KnightTemplar, but the lengths to which Alex had to go to to survive after leaving Bob have caused him to suffer MotiveDecay, and he's now [[BlackandGrayMorality [[BlackAndGrayMorality even worse than Bob]].
** Alex framed Draco as an inflitrator so he would have an excuse to kill him. VictorGainsLosersPowers is in effect and he wanted Draco's skill and {{mana}} forhimself. himself.
** Alex lied about wanting to help the people outside the masquerade.
** Alex framed Draco as an inflitrator so he would have an excuse to kill him. VictorGainsLosersPowers is in effect and he wanted Draco's skill and {{mana}} for
** Alex lied about wanting to help the people outside the masquerade.
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** Bob acts this way about the fact that his professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis used to be under his training. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[FelonyMisdemeanor can really be described as "evil"...]]
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** Bob acts this way about the fact that he trained his professional now-professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis used to be under his training.SitcomArchNemesis. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[FelonyMisdemeanor can really be described as "evil"...]]
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* '''Zig Zagged''':
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* '''Zig Zagged''':'''Zig-Zagged''':
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** Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, no-one on either of which has ever been friends with the other.
** Despite the bitterness with which he abandoned his mentor, Alex still has good intentions. He simply [[DuelingMessiahs no longer shares Bob's views on how to best serve the greater good.]]
** Despite the bitterness with which he abandoned his mentor, Alex still has good intentions. He simply [[DuelingMessiahs no longer shares Bob's views on how to best serve the greater good.]]
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** Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, no-one nobody on either of which has ever been friends with the other.
** Despite the bitterness with which he abandoned his mentor, Alex still has good intentions. He simply [[DuelingMessiahs no longer shares Bob's views on how to best serve the greater good.]] ]]
** Alex doesn't leave Bob.
** Despite the bitterness with which he abandoned his mentor, Alex still has good intentions. He simply [[DuelingMessiahs no longer shares Bob's views on how to best serve the greater good.
** Alex doesn't leave Bob.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Ohhh, you guys have an Obi-Wan/Darth Vader thing goin' on? Well, I for one am much more invested in this conflict now that ItsPersonal."
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Ohhh, you guys have an [[Franchise/StarWars Obi-Wan/Darth Vader Vader]] thing goin' on? Well, I for one am much more invested in this conflict now that ItsPersonal."
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* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- when a pupil of Bob's tries to rebel, he [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim kills him immediately]] on the basis that HeKnowsTooMuch.
* '''Discussed''': "And this year's Most Likely To Turn Evil And Become A Nemesis Feared All The More Because You Were Once A Friend goes to... Alex!"
* '''Discussed''': "And this year's Most Likely To Turn Evil And Become A Nemesis Feared All The More Because You Were Once A Friend goes to... Alex!"
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* '''Defied''': ResignationsNotAccepted -- when whenever a pupil student of Bob's tries to rebel, he [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim kills him immediately]] on the basis that because HeKnowsTooMuch.
* '''Discussed''': "And this year's award for Most LikelyTo to Turn Evil And and Become A a Nemesis Feared All The the More Because [[WeUsedToBeFriends You Were Were]] [[EvilFormerFriend Once A Friend a Friend]] goes to...to ... Alex!"
* '''Discussed''': "And this year's award for Most Likely
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob and Alex's pre-battle banter plays on their old relationship:
-->'''Bob:''' So, we meet again. I see you still can't keep your wrist straight...\\
'''Alex:''' Shut up! You're not my teacher any more!\\
'''Bob:''' Watch that mouth, or I'll have you writing lines. \\
'''Alex:''' Wh- You can't... Aaargh!
* '''Implied''': Alex's origins are never revealed, but he seems to be very familiar with Bob, and with a very similar fighting style.
-->'''Bob:''' So, we meet again. I see you still can't keep your wrist straight...\\
'''Alex:''' Shut up! You're not my teacher any more!\\
'''Bob:''' Watch that mouth, or I'll have you writing lines. \\
'''Alex:''' Wh- You can't... Aaargh!
* '''Implied''': Alex's origins are never revealed, but he seems to be very familiar with Bob, and with a very similar fighting style.
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* '''Played For for Drama''': Bob remembers he saw Alex as LikeASonToMe, Alex remembers he saw Bob as a ParentalSubstitute, or both, and they now angst about having to fight each other.
* '''Played for Laughs''': Bob and Alex's pre-battle banter plays on their old relationship:
-->'''Bob:''' So, we meet again. I see you still can't keep your wriststraight...\\
'''Alex:''' Shut up!straight...
-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' {{Shut up|Kirk}}! You're not my teacher anymore!\\
'''Bob:'''more!
-->'''Bob:''' Watch that mouth, or I'll have youwriting lines. \\
'''Alex:''' Wh- You can't...{{writing lines}}.
-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' Wh--You can't ... Aaargh!
* '''Implied''': Alex's origins are never revealed, but he seems to be very familiar with Bob, and with a very similar fightingstyle. style.
* '''Deconstructed''': Because Bob trained Alex/Killfrenzy, the PowersThatBe at the AcademyOfAdventure suspect him of having given him the ideas that made him evil.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob is exonerated after due process and allowed to stay on because they also figure he might have insight into Alex's/Killfrenzy's psychology.
* '''Played for Laughs''': Bob and Alex's pre-battle banter plays on their old relationship:
-->'''Bob:''' So, we meet again. I see you still can't keep your wrist
'''Alex:''' Shut up!
-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' {{Shut up|Kirk}}! You're not my teacher any
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-->'''Bob:''' Watch that mouth, or I'll have you
'''Alex:''' Wh- You can't...
-->'''Alex/Killfrenzy:''' Wh--You can't ... Aaargh!
* '''Implied''': Alex's origins are never revealed, but he seems to be very familiar with Bob, and with a very similar fighting
* '''Deconstructed''': Because Bob trained Alex/Killfrenzy, the PowersThatBe at the AcademyOfAdventure suspect him of having given him the ideas that made him evil.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob is exonerated after due process and allowed to stay on because they also figure he might have insight into Alex's/Killfrenzy's psychology.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.
* '''Averted''': Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, no-one on either of which has ever been friends with the other.
* '''Averted''': Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, no-one on either of which has ever been friends with the other.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''':
** Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.
** After [[DefeatMeansFriendship a bit of tough love from Alice]], Alex realizes he's strayed down the wrong path and [[HeelFaceTurn mends his ways]], eventually making peace with Bob.
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** Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, no-one on either of which has ever been friends with theother.other.
** Despite the bitterness with which he abandoned his mentor, Alex still has good intentions. He simply [[DuelingMessiahs no longer shares Bob's views on how to best serve the greater good.]]
** Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing TheDarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.
** After [[DefeatMeansFriendship a bit of tough love from Alice]], Alex realizes he's strayed down the wrong path and [[HeelFaceTurn mends his ways]], eventually making peace with Bob.
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** Good and Evil are two entirely different sides, no-one on either of which has ever been friends with the
** Despite the bitterness with which he abandoned his mentor, Alex still has good intentions. He simply [[DuelingMessiahs no longer shares Bob's views on how to best serve the greater good.]]
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** Alex rebelled against Bob because Bob was pro-masquerade - Alex felt it was wrong that the mages were keeping their powers for themselves, and not helping those outside the masquerade.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing DarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence; this is what has created such hate between them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing DarkArts TheDarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob acts this way about the fact that his professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis used to be under his training. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[FelonyMisdemeanor can really be described as "evil"...]]
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** Bob acts this way about the fact that his professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis used to be under his training. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[FelonyMisdemeanor can really be described as "evil"...]]]]
** Bob's apprentices invariably turn evil--Alex, Alice, and anyone after these two--for no good reason, but Bob keeps taking in apprentices hoping that eventually, one of them won't turn into a world-conquering villain.
** Bob acts this way about the fact that his professional rival and SitcomArchNemesis used to be under his training. Alice wonders if owning a competing restaurant [[FelonyMisdemeanor can really be described as "evil"...
** Bob's apprentices invariably turn evil--Alex, Alice, and anyone after these two--for no good reason, but Bob keeps taking in apprentices hoping that eventually, one of them won't turn into a world-conquering villain.
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** Alice's mentor Bob is the one who turns evil, forcing Alice to take down her own teacher.
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** Sensei turns evil. Grasshopper doesn't follow, and they have a parting of ways.
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** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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** Our hero is the best possible {{Foil}} to the villains because he was once the [[TheParagonAlwaysRebels star pupil]] at the AcademyOfEvil before experiencing a HeelRealisation.HeelRealisation and turned to the side of good. For their part, the villains want him dead because HeKnowsTooMuch.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! Then again perhaps it's just Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence that created such hate between them?
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob tells Alice about his former pupil ... but when she tracks the guy down, he's perfectly friendly, and laments the fact that Bob took his branching out on his own so badly. It's later revealed that he's a [[RivalTurnedEvil Rival Turned]] AffablyEvil, and really is plotting Bob's destruction! Then again perhaps it's just He describes it as self-defense against Bob's selfish refusal to accept Alex's independence that independence; this is what has created such hate between them?them. Then Alice learns that Alex is practicing DarkArts and Bob tried to reign him in.