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* One recurring theme is whether the atomic bomb was the last shot of World War II, or the first shot of the Cold War. One thing that the movie does not mention, albeit somewhat justifiably because the work at Los Alamos had been done already, was that the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_War Soviets declared war on Japan]] just a week before the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. They attacked from the north and were able to take Sakhalin Island and control of other parts of the Kuril Islands. Being as the vast majority of Japanese defenses were to the south it's reasonable to say that the Soviets would've captured a lot of northern Japan. Had the war continued it's very reasonable to say that Japan would've been divided up the way [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_German_border Germany]] was, and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Demilitarized_Zone Korea]] still is.
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* One recurring theme is whether the atomic bomb was the last shot of World War II, or the first shot of the Cold War. One thing that the movie does not mention, albeit somewhat justifiably because the work at Los Alamos had been done already, was that the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_War Soviets declared war on Japan]] just a week before the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. They attacked from the north and were able to take Sakhalin Island and control of other parts of the Kuril Islands. Being as the vast majority of Japanese defenses were to the south it's reasonable to say that the Soviets would've captured a lot of northern Japan. Had the war continued it's very reasonable to say that Japan would've been divided up the way [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_German_border Germany]] was, and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Demilitarized_Zone Korea]] still is.
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** The movie does briefly discuss the effects of a full scale conventional invasion of Japan. However the details of what would be expected from that are largely ignored. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall Operation Downfall]] was expected to take at least two years. The allies already knew that Japanese forces couldn't care less about the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions Geneva Conventions]] and fought to the last man for every malaria infested island in the Pacific. Just imagine how they were going to defend their home islands! Casualty estimates for American soldiers ranged from 200,000 to 2,000,000. Japanese Casualty estimates ranged from 10 to 50 million!!!
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** This was apparently an ad Lib by James Remar who knew that not only Henry Stimson, but many military officers, did not want to bomb Kyoto due to having been there themselves when Japan was still an ally of the United States.
** One thing the movie does not mention is that Kyoto was removed as a target since it was, and still is, the cultural capital of Japan and has tremendous historical significance. Since the entire point of dropping the atomic bomb was to convince Japan to surrender, the fear was that destroying the city would effectively leave the people with an attitude that they no longer had anything to lose.
** Another chilling fact that the movie does not mention is that the target cities were deliberately left untouched, save for a few strategic targets, so that the full effect of the bomb would have much more impact. As pointed out Tokyo had already effectively been destroyed so the bomb really wouldn't have made much difference at that point.
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* '''''THE ENDING.''''' ''Dear God, the ending.'' We hear, from Oppenheimer's subjective point of view, the conversation that he and Einstein had at the pond, where they agree that they "set off a chain reaction that could destroy the world". As Einstein leaves, Oppenheimer then ponders what those events could be. Cue a row of [=ICBMs=], now carrying warheads exponentially more destructive than Fat Man and Little Boy, ready to be launched. Cue a shot of trails from missile launches rising up into the clouds. Cue his flashback where he imagines being in the passenger seat of a B-29 bomber like the one that struck Hiroshima, swarms of [=ICBMs=] ascending past him. Cue a vision of nuclear fire slowly but surely ''spreading over the entire world''. And Oppenheimer's face in the final shot sums up this burden of being responsible for this future, both real and theoretical, ''depressingly'' well. He has created UsefulNotes/TheColdWar. He has created MutuallyAssuredDestruction. Humanity has been given the means to destroy itself and everything else on Earth. And he knows it, and will continue to know and live with it for the rest of his life, knowing he is most certainly going to eternally suffer in [[Main/IronicHell the darkest, most special place in Hell for him]] because of it. He shuts his eyes, almost as if to unsuccessfully attempt to wake up from the horrible nightmare of the reality he's just unleashed. SmashToBlack.

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* '''''THE ENDING.''''' ''Dear God, the ending.'' We hear, from Oppenheimer's subjective point of view, the conversation that he and Einstein had at the pond, where they agree that they "set off a chain reaction that could destroy the world". As Einstein leaves, Oppenheimer then ponders what those events could be. Cue a row of [=ICBMs=], now carrying warheads exponentially more destructive than Fat Man and Little Boy, ready to be launched. Cue a shot of trails from missile launches rising up into the clouds. Cue his flashback where he imagines being in the passenger seat of a B-29 bomber like the one that struck Hiroshima, swarms of [=ICBMs=] ascending past him. Cue a vision of nuclear fire slowly but surely ''spreading over the entire world''. And Oppenheimer's face in the final shot sums up this burden of being responsible for this future, both real and theoretical, ''depressingly'' well. He has created UsefulNotes/TheColdWar. He has created MutuallyAssuredDestruction. Humanity has been given the means to destroy itself and everything else on Earth. And he knows it, and will continue to know and live with it for the rest of his life, knowing he is most certainly going to eternally suffer in [[Main/IronicHell eternally suffer like the darkest, most special place in Hell for him]] millions of people who will suffer]] because of it.him. He shuts his eyes, almost as if to unsuccessfully attempt to wake up from the horrible nightmare of the reality he's just unleashed. SmashToBlack.
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''Film/{{Oppenheimer}}'' is a film about [[UsefulNotes/JRobertOppenheimer the eponymous scientist]] behind a weapon that isn't just ''[[NightmareFuel more]]'' than deadly, but world-defining. By the time the film is done, you'd be sharing his colossal feeling of "MyGodWhatHaveIDone".

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''Film/{{Oppenheimer}}'' is a film about [[UsefulNotes/JRobertOppenheimer [[UsefulNotes/RobertOppenheimer the eponymous scientist]] behind a weapon that isn't just ''[[NightmareFuel more]]'' than deadly, but world-defining. By the time the film is done, you'd be sharing his colossal feeling of "MyGodWhatHaveIDone".
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* '''''THE ENDING.''''' ''Dear God, the ending.'' We hear, from Oppenheimer's subjective point of view, the conversation that he and Einstein had at the pond, where they agree that they "set off a chain reaction that could destroy the world". As Einstein leaves, Oppenheimer then ponders what those events could be. Cue a row of [=ICBMs=], now carrying warheads exponentially more destructive than Fat Man and Little Boy, ready to be launched. Cue a shot of trails from missile launches rising up into the clouds. Cue his flashback where he imagines being in the passenger seat of a B-29 bomber like the one that struck Hiroshima, swarms of [=ICBMs=] ascending past him. Cue a vision of nuclear fire slowly but surely ''spreading over the entire world''. And Oppenheimer's face in the final shot sums up this burden of being responsible for this future, both real and theoretical, ''depressingly'' well. He has created UsefulNotes/TheColdWar. He has created MutuallyAssuredDestruction. Humanity has been given the means to destroy itself and everything else on Earth. And he knows it, and will continue to know and live with it for the rest of his life, knowing he is most certainly going to suffer in [[Main/IronicHell the darkest, most special place in Hell for him]] because of it. He shuts his eyes, almost as if to unsuccessfully attempt to wake up from the horrible nightmare of the reality he's just unleashed. SmashToBlack.

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* '''''THE ENDING.''''' ''Dear God, the ending.'' We hear, from Oppenheimer's subjective point of view, the conversation that he and Einstein had at the pond, where they agree that they "set off a chain reaction that could destroy the world". As Einstein leaves, Oppenheimer then ponders what those events could be. Cue a row of [=ICBMs=], now carrying warheads exponentially more destructive than Fat Man and Little Boy, ready to be launched. Cue a shot of trails from missile launches rising up into the clouds. Cue his flashback where he imagines being in the passenger seat of a B-29 bomber like the one that struck Hiroshima, swarms of [=ICBMs=] ascending past him. Cue a vision of nuclear fire slowly but surely ''spreading over the entire world''. And Oppenheimer's face in the final shot sums up this burden of being responsible for this future, both real and theoretical, ''depressingly'' well. He has created UsefulNotes/TheColdWar. He has created MutuallyAssuredDestruction. Humanity has been given the means to destroy itself and everything else on Earth. And he knows it, and will continue to know and live with it for the rest of his life, knowing he is most certainly going to eternally suffer in [[Main/IronicHell the darkest, most special place in Hell for him]] because of it. He shuts his eyes, almost as if to unsuccessfully attempt to wake up from the horrible nightmare of the reality he's just unleashed. SmashToBlack.
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** And the worst part? This film isn't just a fictional piece like everything else Nolan has done. This DID happen in Real Life. Oppenheimer and Einstein DID exist. The bomb WAS made. We HAD the Cuban Missile Crisis, 1983 and many other near misses throughout the 20th century and 2000s and 2010s. The nukes are still here on Earth, and though they have been severely decreased over the years, there is still the [[ParanoiaFuel raw knowledge that they can destroy us if they are used]]. While Oppenheimer's vision thankfully never was a reality back then, ''it could still be a possibility to this very day.''

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** And the worst part? This film isn't just a fictional piece like everything else Nolan has done. This DID happen in Real Life. Oppenheimer and Einstein DID exist. The bomb WAS made. We HAD the Cuban Missile Crisis, 1983 and many other near misses throughout the 20th century and century, the 2000s and 2010s. the 2010s, and there is [[ParanoiaFuel bound to be more in the future, near and far]]. The nukes are still here on Earth, and though they have been severely decreased over the years, there is still the [[ParanoiaFuel raw knowledge that they can destroy us if they are used]].used. While Oppenheimer's vision thankfully never was a reality back then, ''it could still be a possibility to this very day.''
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* '''''THE ENDING.''''' ''Dear God, the ending.'' We hear, from Oppenheimer's subjective point of view, the conversation that he and Einstein had at the pond, where they agree that they "set off a chain reaction that could destroy the world". As Einstein leaves, Oppenheimer then ponders what those events could be. Cue a row of [=ICBMs=], now carrying warheads exponentially more destructive than Fat Man and Little Boy, ready to be launched. Cue a shot of trails from missile launches rising up into the clouds. Cue his flashback where he imagines being in the passenger seat of a B-29 bomber like the one that struck Hiroshima, swarms of [=ICBMs=] ascending past him. Cue a vision of nuclear fire slowly but surely ''spreading over the entire world''. And Oppenheimer's face in the final shot sums up this burden of being responsible for this future, both real and theoretical, ''depressingly'' well. He has created UsefulNotes/TheColdWar. He has created MutuallyAssuredDestruction. Humanity has been given the means to destroy itself and everything else on Earth. And he knows it, and will continue to know and live with it for the rest of his life, knowing he is most certainly going to an Main/IronicHell for it. He shuts his eyes. SmashToBlack.

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* '''''THE ENDING.''''' ''Dear God, the ending.'' We hear, from Oppenheimer's subjective point of view, the conversation that he and Einstein had at the pond, where they agree that they "set off a chain reaction that could destroy the world". As Einstein leaves, Oppenheimer then ponders what those events could be. Cue a row of [=ICBMs=], now carrying warheads exponentially more destructive than Fat Man and Little Boy, ready to be launched. Cue a shot of trails from missile launches rising up into the clouds. Cue his flashback where he imagines being in the passenger seat of a B-29 bomber like the one that struck Hiroshima, swarms of [=ICBMs=] ascending past him. Cue a vision of nuclear fire slowly but surely ''spreading over the entire world''. And Oppenheimer's face in the final shot sums up this burden of being responsible for this future, both real and theoretical, ''depressingly'' well. He has created UsefulNotes/TheColdWar. He has created MutuallyAssuredDestruction. Humanity has been given the means to destroy itself and everything else on Earth. And he knows it, and will continue to know and live with it for the rest of his life, knowing he is most certainly going to an Main/IronicHell suffer in [[Main/IronicHell the darkest, most special place in Hell for him]] because of it. He shuts his eyes.eyes, almost as if to unsuccessfully attempt to wake up from the horrible nightmare of the reality he's just unleashed. SmashToBlack.

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** Remember when the scientists were discussing the theory about atmospheric ignition back when they were building the bomb? That is exactly what is happening here in the vision. So many nukes were blown up at once that the atmosphere couldn't handle the heat and wound up combusting on itself, exposing Earth to the complete wrath of the sun. In other words, [[ApocalypseHow/Class6 Earth is becoming as]] [[Film/DrStrangelove dead as the moon,]] [[ApocalypseHow/Class6 Mars and the rest of the Solar System without a second chance to rebuild itself ever again.]] All this because of [[Main/HumansAreBastards a bunch of humans.]] It makes one consider if [[HistoryRepeats the Martians had a similar instance and killed off their planet as well]]. You could also consider this Main/HellOnEarth where, if the firestorm means anything, [[TheBadGuyWins the Devil successfully lured humanity into opening the gates of Hell for him]] and is ''now reaping all life on Earth''.

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** Remember when the scientists were discussing the theory about atmospheric ignition back when they were building the bomb? That is exactly what is happening here in the vision. So many nukes were blown up at once that the atmosphere couldn't handle the was unable to withstand their heat and wound up combusting on itself, exposing Earth to the complete wrath of the sun. In other words, [[ApocalypseHow/Class6 Earth is becoming as]] [[Film/DrStrangelove dead as the moon,]] [[ApocalypseHow/Class6 Mars and the rest of the Solar System without a second chance to rebuild itself ever again.]] All this because of [[Main/HumansAreBastards a bunch of humans.]] It makes one consider if [[HistoryRepeats the Martians had a similar instance and killed off their planet as well]]. You could also consider this Main/HellOnEarth where, if the firestorm means anything, [[TheBadGuyWins the Devil successfully lured humanity into opening the gates of Hell for him]] and is ''now reaping all life on Earth''.Earth for eternal torment''.
** And the worst part? This film isn't just a fictional piece like everything else Nolan has done. This DID happen in Real Life. Oppenheimer and Einstein DID exist. The bomb WAS made. We HAD the Cuban Missile Crisis, 1983 and many other near misses throughout the 20th century and 2000s and 2010s. The nukes are still here on Earth, and though they have been severely decreased over the years, there is still the [[ParanoiaFuel raw knowledge that they can destroy us if they are used]]. While Oppenheimer's vision thankfully never was a reality back then, ''it could still be a possibility to this very day.''
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** Remember when the scientists were discussing the theory about atmospheric ignition back when they were building the bomb? That is exactly what is happening here in the vision. So many nukes were blown up at once that the atmosphere couldn't handle the heat and wound up combusting on itself, exposing Earth to the complete wrath of the sun. In other words, [[ApocalypseHow/Class6 Earth is becoming as]] [[Film/DrStrangelove dead as the moon,]] [[ApocalypseHow/Class6 Mars and the rest of the Solar System without a second chance to rebuild itself ever again.]] All this because of [[Main/HumansAreBastards a bunch of humans.]] It makes one consider if [[HistoryRepeats the Martians had a similar instance and killed off their planet as well]]. You could also consider this Main/HellOnEarth where, if the firestorm means anything, [[TheBadGuyWins the Devil successfully drove all of humanity to suicide]] and is ''now reaping all life on Earth for eternal torment''.

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** Remember when the scientists were discussing the theory about atmospheric ignition back when they were building the bomb? That is exactly what is happening here in the vision. So many nukes were blown up at once that the atmosphere couldn't handle the heat and wound up combusting on itself, exposing Earth to the complete wrath of the sun. In other words, [[ApocalypseHow/Class6 Earth is becoming as]] [[Film/DrStrangelove dead as the moon,]] [[ApocalypseHow/Class6 Mars and the rest of the Solar System without a second chance to rebuild itself ever again.]] All this because of [[Main/HumansAreBastards a bunch of humans.]] It makes one consider if [[HistoryRepeats the Martians had a similar instance and killed off their planet as well]]. You could also consider this Main/HellOnEarth where, if the firestorm means anything, [[TheBadGuyWins the Devil successfully drove all of lured humanity to suicide]] into opening the gates of Hell for him]] and is ''now reaping all life on Earth for eternal torment''.Earth''.

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