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* The whole condition of New York City in the game is pretty nightmarish, going beyond the average WretchedHive or CrapsackWorld. The city is completely infested with sleazy corruption, government conspiracy and violent criminals. There's an almost supernatural snow-storm that is ravaging everything like the end of the world. The Mafia is so brazen that they rob a bank in the early evening and gleefully massacre everyone at a subway maintenance station. And that's not even getting into the mass use of a drug that turns people into murderous and suicidal lunatics.

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* The whole condition of New York City in the game is pretty nightmarish, going beyond the average WretchedHive or CrapsackWorld. The city is completely infested with sleazy corruption, government conspiracy and violent criminals. There's an almost supernatural snow-storm that is ravaging everything like the end some sort of herald of the world.apocalypse. The Mafia is so brazen that they rob a bank in the early evening and gleefully massacre everyone at a subway maintenance station. And that's not even getting into the mass use of a drug that turns people into murderous and suicidal lunatics.

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* Also, the motivations of Nicole Horne, who is pretty much completely soulless and would do absolutely anything for money and power.

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* Also, the motivations of Nicole Horne, who is pretty much [[CompleteMonster completely soulless soulless]] and would do absolutely anything for money and power.
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* The Cleaners are completely amoral and seem to take pleasure from their life of contract killing. They're also very competent and leave almost no forensic evidence until Max interrupts their plans. Imagine that a team of efficent, happy-go-lucky killers exist in your city and will probably never be caught and convicted...
* The second game stepped up the Twin Peaks parody from the first into a surreal series called "Address Unknown". The abandoned theme park of the show that's explored in the game is VERY creepy. The story of the show is morbid and insane, and feels like a lampoon of Max's life and mental state. He's even aware of this, commenting that "The joke is less funny when it mirrors your reality.")
** Perhaps the most disturbing part of the theme park is the final section, which occurs after the protagonist of the show goes completely insane and enters "The Next Level" (presumably of madness). It's just a long corridor with road signs that alternate between saying "ESCAPE" with an arrow and "There is no escape." The path ends at a locked door, with stark neon writing above simply saying: "THERE IS NO ESCAPE."



* In all but the ending the game [[EarnYourHappyEnding gives you on the hardest difficulty]], [[TearJerker Mona dies]]. Max is on the verge of total mental collapse the whole game, he finds a second true love and then she is once against snatched from him in tragic circumstances. Brutal.

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* In all but the ending the game [[EarnYourHappyEnding gives you on the hardest difficulty]], [[TearJerker Mona dies]]. Max is on the verge of total mental collapse the whole game, he finds a second true love who is much the same as him...and then she is once against snatched from him in tragic circumstances. Brutal.
* The recurring theme that you can be [[AdultFear completely powerless to save the ones you love]], [[YouAreTooLate even]] if you have the ability to shoot hundreds of bad guys dead.



* If Max seemed broken in Max Payne 2...it's [[FromBadToWorse even worse]] now. He's a full-blown alcoholic, and once again the years seem to have given him no respite at all. It's like the entire world is his own nightmarish personal Hell.




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* Brazil is depicted much like NYC in the first game - utterly rotten and corrupt to the core. The whole place is like one huge endless nightmare and every faction seems just as evil as one another. You fight against amateur gangsters from poor slums, and they're utterly vicious and brutal, with no respect for life. Then you meet an evil radical Right-wing paramilitary fond of burning people alive. [[spoiler: Even the special ops police force are remorseless killers who kill innocent people and sell their organs for cash]]. If Hell is a place on Earth, the Brazil depicted in MP3 is probably pretty close.
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* There are also minor but significant changes to Max's house that are disturbing too. The picture on the wall changes from "HUG ME!" in the real scene to "CUDDLES", "HUGGIES" and other such slightly off phrases, as if Max's PTSD and/or Valkyr use is changing what he remembers. And in one dream the child's letter blocks spell out "D3AD". At one point, if you try to rescue Michelle by cutting through the bedroom en suite bathroom, huge wooden planks nail the door shut...showing Max's guilt that the door was jammed and stopped him from saving her.

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* There are also minor but significant changes to Max's house that are disturbing too. The picture on the wall in the baby's room changes from a teddy bear with "HUG ME!" in the real scene to "CUDDLES", "HUGGIES" and other such slightly off phrases, as if Max's PTSD and/or Valkyr use is changing what he remembers. And in one dream the child's letter blocks spell out "D3AD". At one point, if you try to rescue Michelle by cutting through the bedroom en suite bathroom, huge wooden planks nail the door shut...showing Max's guilt that the door was jammed and stopped him from saving her.
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** The Twin Peaks parody itself is pretty disturbing. The TV is just sat in the middle of a completely dilapidated flat. The main character recounts a split personality experience in a wavering, shaky voice and more creepily still, the dialogue references Max's own suffering. The TV states that the "flamingo" says: "The flesh of fallen angels." and the protagonist says "I have no idea what that means." Of course, that exact phrase is what the Valkyr junkies said when killing Max's family and he is familiar with it, which makes it all the more surreal. Right after this sentence on the TV we hear a baby screaming and the whole sequence ends with the narrator mentioning that he always wakes up..."strapped to his bed".

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** The Twin Peaks parody itself is pretty disturbing.disturbing, cutting out the kooky and funny bits of that show and keeping the horror elements. The TV is just sat in the middle of a completely dilapidated flat. The main character recounts a split personality experience in a wavering, shaky voice and more creepily still, the dialogue references Max's own suffering. The TV states that the "flamingo" says: "The flesh of fallen angels." and the protagonist says "I have no idea what that means." Of course, that exact phrase is what the Valkyr junkies said when killing Max's family and he is familiar with it, which makes it all the more surreal. Right after this sentence on the TV we hear a baby screaming and the whole sequence ends with the narrator mentioning that he always wakes up..."strapped to his bed".
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** The scream is actually from a parody of ''Series/TwinPeaks'' that is briefly seen in the game, but it's horrifying nonetheless. Also, since we're watching the show from Max's perspective, it may be that he's hearing a normal scream on the TV as the same scream of his dying child...yikes.

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** The scream is actually from a parody of ''Series/TwinPeaks'' that is briefly seen in the game, but it's horrifying nonetheless. Also, since we're watching the show from Max's perspective, it may be that he's hearing a normal scream on the TV as triggers him into remembering the same scream of his dying child...yikes.

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* The whole condition of New York City in the game is pretty nightmarish, going beyond the average WretchedHive or CrapsackWorld. The city is completely infested with sleazy corruption, government conspiracy and violent criminals. There's an almost supernatural snow-storm that is ravaging everything like the end of the world. The Mafia is so brazen that they rob a bank in the early evening and gleefully massacre everyone at a subway maintenance station. And that's not even getting into the mass use of a drug that turns people into murderous and suicidal lunatics.



** The scream is actually from a parody of ''Series/TwinPeaks'' that is briefly seen in the game, but it's horrifying nonetheless.

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** The scream is actually from a parody of ''Series/TwinPeaks'' that is briefly seen in the game, but it's horrifying nonetheless. Also, since we're watching the show from Max's perspective, it may be that he's hearing a normal scream on the TV as the same scream of his dying child...yikes.
** The Twin Peaks parody itself is pretty disturbing. The TV is just sat in the middle of a completely dilapidated flat. The main character recounts a split personality experience in a wavering, shaky voice and more creepily still, the dialogue references Max's own suffering. The TV states that the "flamingo" says: "The flesh of fallen angels." and the protagonist says "I have no idea what that means." Of course, that exact phrase is what the Valkyr junkies said when killing Max's family and he is familiar with it, which makes it all the more surreal. Right after this sentence on the TV we hear a baby screaming and the whole sequence ends with the narrator mentioning that he always wakes up..."strapped to his bed".



* The halllways twist and the walls change. THE WALLS CHANGE! It's... wrong.

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* The halllways hallways twist and the walls change. THE WALLS CHANGE! It's... wrong.



* There are also minor but significant changes to Max's house that are disturbing too. The picture on the wall changes from "HUG ME!" in the real scene to "CUDDLES", "HUGGIES" and other such slightly off phrases, as if Max's PTSD and/or Valkyr use is changing what he remembers. And in one dream the child's letter blocks spell out "D3AD". At one point, if you try to rescue Michelle by cutting through the bedroom en suite bathroom, huge wooden planks nail the door shut...showing Max's guilt that the door was jammed and stopped him from saving her.




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* The effects and symptoms of Valkyr use and the behaviour of the junkies hopped up on it. It seems to be extremely addictive and habit forming, and doesn't even appear to give a real "high", as people who have taken it simply hold their heads and rock back and forth like madmen. Users mutter gibberish and seem anguished ("I think I died...I think I'm dead! I don't know..." and "I'm gonna hurt you..." being stand outs). It also makes the user do completely insane and violent things, up to and including murdering innocent people and children, and blesses the user with a resistance to pain and increased strength with which to commit these atrocities. It's hard to think of a nastier drug.
* Also, the motivations of Nicole Horne, who is pretty much completely soulless and would do absolutely anything for money and power.



* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene? Being forced to watch him, in another nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the just stand there helplessly, as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.

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* The first game hinted that Max was a broken man from watching his family die in front of him, but at least he got his revenge and seemed functional in his undercover job. By the second game it's plainly obvious that the event has taken a toll. He's dysfunctional at his job and flat-out depressed. He's still utterly torn up by the death of his wife and consumed by guilt when lusting for Mona. To see him still suffering so much after several years is not just sad, but actually disturbing because it's a horribly [[AdultFear realistic portrayal of extreme grief]]. It would happen to anyone after such a traumatic event.
* Some of the touches in the dream sequence are just as creepy as in the first game. Throughout the game, adverts are seen for "Gold Touch Brandy". In one dream, a billboard appears for it. Except instead of the smiling woman normally seen in other ads in the game for the drink, Max himself is simply depicted sat next to the huge bottle of alcohol. The brand name is replaced by "SADIM", which is Midas backwards. And the slogan? It simply says: "EVERYONE I TOUCH DIES". Max is so consumed with [[HeroicBSOD mental anguish]] that he sees himself as a curse, a death force that always sees [[AdultFear everyone he loves taken from him, forever]]...
* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene? Being forced to watch him, in another nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the then just stand there helplessly, helplessly as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.
* Vlad's demeanour in that scene is also unnaturally smug and cheery. He's doing something absolutely heartless and psychopathic, yet he seems outright amused as he psychologically tortures Vinnie. It's a nasty window into his apparent true personality, and even if Vinnie had answered correctly, he [[MortonsFork likely would have killed him regardless.]]
* In all but the ending the game [[EarnYourHappyEnding gives you on the hardest difficulty]], [[TearJerker Mona dies]]. Max is on the verge of total mental collapse the whole game, he finds a second true love and then she is once against snatched from him in tragic circumstances. Brutal.

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* On top of Ragna Rock and Lupino both being super-creepy, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdIha5Dz07U the boss fight itself]] is [[WakeUpCallBoss a nightmare]]. Unlike the rest of the games bosses, the Finito Brothers, Rico Muerte, the Trio or the Russian gun runner, Lupino doesnt have a realistic level of health. The reason? He's hopped up to his eyeballs with Valyrie, and cant even feel pain anymore. Even after the boss fight, Max empties his gun into Lupinos corpse during the cutscene, just to make sure he wont get back up again. This makes a lot of sense once you find out that Valkyrie is really [[spoiler: a goverment Super Soldier Serum prototype that was never finished]]. The run-of-the-mill addicts you've fought so far in the game just havent had access to enough of the stuff to get the effect Lupino got.

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* On top of Ragna Rock and Lupino both being super-creepy, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdIha5Dz07U the boss fight itself]] is [[WakeUpCallBoss a nightmare]]. Unlike the rest of the games bosses, the Finito Brothers, Rico Muerte, the Trio or the Russian gun runner, Lupino doesnt [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant Jack Lupino]] doesn't have a realistic level of health. The reason? He's hopped up to his eyeballs with Valyrie, Valkyr, and cant can't even feel pain anymore. Even after the boss fight, Max empties his gun into Lupinos corpse during the cutscene, just to make sure he wont won't get back up again. This makes a lot of sense once you find out that Valkyrie Valkyr is really [[spoiler: a goverment Super Soldier Serum prototype that was never finished]]. The run-of-the-mill addicts you've fought so far in the game just havent had access to enough of the stuff to get the effect Lupino got.



** While unused from the game's soundtrack, the eponymous "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2q5705OVi8 The Flesh of Fallen Angels]]" is ''complete panic fuel'', which was supposed to be heard when fighting Jack Lupino and his henchmen while sending you on the edge.



* If you shoot the V junkies their screams will sometimes transition into the sound of a baby crying. The fact that it's the sole bit of MindScrew in a game that's largely straightforward outside of the dream sequences just makes it all the freakier.
* The loading screen for the Prologue of 'A Bit Closer to Heaven'. It sticks around in the quit screen as well.

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* If you shoot kill the V junkies their screams will sometimes transition into the sound of a baby crying. The fact that it's the sole bit of MindScrew in a game that's largely straightforward outside of the dream sequences just makes it all the freakier.
* [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/maxpayne/images/7/73/MaxPayne_2011-05-06_16-40-19-89.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110506144637 The loading screen screen]] for the Prologue of 'A Bit Closer to Heaven'.Heaven' features a screaming man with [[BlackEyesOfEvil hollow eyes]]. It sticks around in the quit screen as well.
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* The UFE prison Max goes to after turning himself in. It's somewhere you ''absolutely'' don't wanna be in, specially if you're familiar with the brutality of brazilian prisons, where in most cases the police goes as far as ''allowing inmates to kill other inmates'' depending on how bad the crime they've commited was. Knowing Max and the trouble he gave to both the police and the scum of São Paulo, [[NothingIsScarier who knows what he would be put through if he hadn't escaped?]]

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* The UFE prison Max goes to after turning himself in. It's somewhere you ''absolutely'' don't wanna be in, specially if you're familiar with the brutality of brazilian prisons, where in most cases the police goes as far as ''allowing inmates to kill other inmates'' depending on how bad the crime they've commited was. Knowing Max and the trouble he gave to both the police and the scum of São Paulo, [[NothingIsScarier who knows what he would be would've been put through if he hadn't escaped?]]

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* The UFE prison Max goes to after turning himself in. It's somewhere you ''absolutely'' don't wanna be in, specially if you're familiar with the brutality of brazilian prisons, where in most cases the police goes as far as ''allowing inmates to kill other inmates'' depending on how bad the crime they've commited was. Knowing Max and the trouble he gave to both the police and the scum of São Paulo, [[NothingIsScarier who knows what he would be put through if he hadn't escaped?]]
** The place is so bad that, in the cutscene where Max is taken to be interrogated, they pass through many jail cells, one containing a prisoner who [[DrivenToSuicide hung himself]].
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--> '''John''': I was trapped in a nightmare. [[JekyllAndHyde My evil double]] had taken my girlfriend. Following him, I had somehow slipped into a twisted alternate reality, Noir York City. My double was [[spoiler: John Mirra]]. He was the devil incarnate, a fallen angel.

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--> '''John''': I was trapped in a nightmare. [[JekyllAndHyde [[EvilCounterpart My evil double]] had taken my girlfriend. Following him, I had somehow slipped into a twisted alternate reality, Noir York City. My double was [[spoiler: John Mirra]]. He was the devil incarnate, a fallen angel.
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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]], rather than going into his trademark TranquilFury mode, he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''[[UnstoppableRage rage]]'' for perhaps the first time in the series.

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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]], rather than going into his trademark TranquilFury mode, he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''[[UnstoppableRage rage]]'' for perhaps the first time in the series.series.

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* While being a parody of ''Series/TwinPeaks'', ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUXUyItb1ys Address Unknown]]'' (From both first games) still manages to be creepy thanks to it's dark atmosphere and pumping up some creepy feel in it. Don't forget [[BigBad John Mirra]]'s EvilLaughter as well!
--> '''John''': I was trapped in a nightmare. [[JekyllAndHyde My evil double]] had taken my girlfriend. Following him, I had somehow slipped into a twisted alternate reality, Noir York City. My double was [[spoiler: John Mirra]]. He was the devil incarnate, a fallen angel.
--> '''[[spoiler: John Mirra]]''': .thE flesH oF falleN angelS
--> '''Patient''': The flesh, '''THE FLESH!''' I think I died! I think I'm dead- I don't know, '''I DON'T KNOW!''' Death is coming, '''IT'S COMING!''' They're here! They're here! Get away- '''GET AWAY, GET AWAY! I'M GONNA HURT YOU, I'M GONNA HURT YOOOUUUUU!!!'''
** And also, [[CruelTwistEnding the ending]] is nothing short of chilling.
--> '''Caller''': [[spoiler: John Mirra]]?
--> '''John''': This is he.
--> '''Caller''': [[spoiler: This is John Mirra]]. Welcome to the next level.
--> '''John''': '''[[OhCrap *Panicked]] [[HeroicBSOD Gasping*]]'''
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** The scream is actually from a parody of ''TwinPeaks'' that is briefly seen in the game, but it's horrifying nonetheless.

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* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene? Being forced to watch him, in another nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the just stand there helplessly, as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.


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* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene? Being forced to watch him, in another nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the just stand there helplessly, as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.

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* The nightmare/hallucination sequences from ''Max Payne'', which include such gems as: the terrified, pleading and weeping voice of Max's late wife Michelle; the baby crying (and ''screaming'' at one point if you fall during the second sequence); creepy music box music; the door from the bathroom being boarded up violently; and lots of creepy imagery, including a cradle on a red floor surrounded by candles like a demonic altar.

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* The nightmare/hallucination sequences from ''Max Payne'', which include such gems as: the terrified, pleading and weeping voice of Max's late wife Michelle; the baby crying (and ''screaming'' at one point if you fall during the second sequence); creepy music box music; the door from the bathroom being boarded up violently; and lots of creepy imagery, including a cradle on a red floor surrounded by candles like a demonic altar.



* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene in the second game? Being forced to watch him, in another nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the just stand there helplessly, as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.

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* If you shoot the V junkies their screams will sometimes transition into the sound of a baby crying. The fact that it's the sole bit of MindScrew in a game that's largely straightforward outside of the dream sequences just makes it all the freakier.

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* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene in the second game? scene? Being forced to watch him, in another nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the just stand there helplessly, as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.




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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]], rather than going into his trademark TranquilFury mode, he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''[[UnstoppableRage rage]]'' for perhaps the first time in the series.
* In the first game, if you shoot the V junkies their screams will sometimes transition into the sound of a baby crying. The fact that it's the sole bit of MindScrew in a game that's largely straightforward outside of the dream sequences just makes it all the freakier.

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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]], rather than going into his trademark TranquilFury mode, he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''[[UnstoppableRage rage]]'' for perhaps the first time in the series.
* In the first game, if you shoot the V junkies their screams will sometimes transition into the sound of a baby crying. The fact that it's the sole bit of MindScrew in a game that's largely straightforward outside of the dream sequences just makes it all the freakier.
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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]] he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''rage'' for perhaps the first time in the series.

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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]] harvesting]], rather than going into his trademark TranquilFury mode, he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''rage'' ''[[UnstoppableRage rage]]'' for perhaps the first time in the series.
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* The final reveal of the game, that the events of the story were just a side effect of [[spoiler: the power games of a goverment conspiracy and its various infighting.]] All the horrible things that happened werent even for any real purpose.
* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene in the second game? Being forced to watch him, in anoter nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the just stand there helplessly, as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.

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* The final reveal of the game, that the events of the story were just a side effect of [[spoiler: the power games of a goverment government conspiracy and its various infighting.]] All the horrible things that happened werent weren't even for any real purpose.
* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene in the second game? Being forced to watch him, in anoter another nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the just stand there helplessly, as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.
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** In that vein, the extremely surreal and abstract sequence of the second nightmare, where you wake up in Punchinellos burning office, and find yourself confronted with a ringing phone and a paper on the desk. When you answer the phone the first time, its simply gibberish on the other end, but the second time, a voice is beggind Max to wake up and remember where he is, while Max still only hears gibberish, as the phone turns into a gun... And the document on the desk respectively tells Max that he's in a video game and a graphic novel. It might seem silly, but in the context, its terrifying. Subconsciously, Max KNOWS he's a simple puppet, and all his suffering is merely to set a backstory for the players.

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** In that vein, the extremely surreal and abstract sequence of the second nightmare, where you wake up in Punchinellos burning office, and find yourself confronted with a ringing phone and a paper on the desk. When you answer the phone the first time, its simply gibberish on the other end, but the second time, a voice is beggind begging Max to wake up and remember where he is, while Max still only hears gibberish, as the phone turns into a gun... And the document on the desk respectively tells Max that he's in a video game and a graphic novel. It might seem silly, but in the context, its terrifying. Subconsciously, Max KNOWS he's a simple puppet, and all his suffering is merely to set a backstory for the players.

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* On top of Ragna Rock and Lupino both being super-creepy, the boss fight itself is [[WakeUpCallBoss a nightmare]]. For starters, Lupino can absorb a ludicrous amount of lead, and the game does not yet provide you with the heavier hardware. On top of this, mooks spawn during the fight to take you on from all angles. Mix these two together and you get a nightmarish combat sequence ahead of you.

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* On top of Ragna Rock and Lupino both being super-creepy, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdIha5Dz07U the boss fight itself itself]] is [[WakeUpCallBoss a nightmare]]. For starters, Unlike the rest of the games bosses, the Finito Brothers, Rico Muerte, the Trio or the Russian gun runner, Lupino can absorb doesnt have a ludicrous amount realistic level of lead, and the game does not yet provide you health. The reason? He's hopped up to his eyeballs with Valyrie, and cant even feel pain anymore. Even after the heavier hardware. On top of this, mooks spawn boss fight, Max empties his gun into Lupinos corpse during the fight cutscene, just to take make sure he wont get back up again. This makes a lot of sense once you on from all angles. Mix these two together find out that Valkyrie is really [[spoiler: a goverment Super Soldier Serum prototype that was never finished]]. The run-of-the-mill addicts you've fought so far in the game just havent had access to enough of the stuff to get the effect Lupino got.
--> '''Lupino''': Death is coming,
and you get a nightmarish combat sequence ahead hell follows with her... This is the Twilight Winter! I am ready to be her son! Her time is now and ''ALL WHO STAND IN HER WAY MUST DIIIIEE!!''
* The final reveal
of you.the game, that the events of the story were just a side effect of [[spoiler: the power games of a goverment conspiracy and its various infighting.]] All the horrible things that happened werent even for any real purpose.
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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]] he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''rage'' for perhaps the first time in the series.

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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]] he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''rage'' for perhaps the first time in the series.series.
* In the first game, if you shoot the V junkies their screams will sometimes transition into the sound of a baby crying. The fact that it's the sole bit of MindScrew in a game that's largely straightforward outside of the dream sequences just makes it all the freakier.
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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]] he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''rage'' for perhaps the first time in the series.

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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude.attitude with his anger mostly bottled up inside. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]] he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''rage'' for perhaps the first time in the series.
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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr. He's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it.

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** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr. He's Valkyr, and faced it all with a pained but stoic attitude. Here, he's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it.it; after he's had time to process what he has seen, [[spoiler:he comes quickly to the conclusion of blowing the whole place to hell]], and when he confronts the villain who had been overseeing [[spoiler:the organ harvesting]] he speaks and acts in a palpable state of unbridled hot ''rage'' for perhaps the first time in the series.
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* The Imperial Palace hotel, all of it.

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* The Imperial Palace hotel, all of it. Not at all helped by the musical backing, which is made up of a series of heartbeat-like theremin sounds being occasionally punctuated by other dissonant sounds.

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* At the climax of the Panama mission, Max discovers [[spoiler: the corpses of the ship's passengers heaped on the roof of the museum, surrounded by a massive pool of blood.]] It becomes even worse when you think of [[FridgeHorror what they must have gone through before they died.]] They were most likely marched up to the roof, pleading for their lives before being gunned down by the pirates. It gets worse when you realize that it was all because [[spoiler: Marcello and Passos hid the blood money from Victor's organ harvesting ring within the ship,]] most likely without the boat's owner even knowing about it.

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* At the climax of the Panama mission, Max discovers [[spoiler: the corpses of the ship's passengers heaped on the roof of the museum, surrounded by a massive pool of blood.]] It becomes even worse when you think of [[FridgeHorror what they must have gone through before they died.]] They were most likely marched up to the roof, pleading for their lives before being gunned down by the pirates. It gets worse when you realize that it was all because [[spoiler: Marcello and Passos hid the blood money from Victor's organ harvesting ring within the ship,]] most likely without the boat's owner even knowing about it.
* The Imperial Palace hotel, all of it.
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* At the climax of the Panama mission, Max discovers [[spoiler: the corpses of the ship's passengers heaped on the roof of the museum, surrounded by a massive pool of blood.]] It becomes even worse when you think of [[FridgeHorror what they must have gone through before they died.]] They were most likely marched up to the roof, pleading for their lives before being gunned down by the pirates. It gets worse when you realize that it was all because [[spoiler: Marcello and Passos hid the blood money from Victor's organ harvesting ring within the ship,]] most likely without the boat's owner even knowing about it.
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** In that vein, the extremely surreal and abstract sequence of the second nightmare, where you wake up in Punchinellos burning office, and find yourself confronted with a ringing phone and a paper on the desk. When you answer the phone the first time, its simply gibberish on the other end, but the second time, a voice is beggind Max to wake up and remember where he is, while Max still only hears gibberish, as the phone turns into a gun... And the document on the desk respectively tells Max that he's in a video game and a graphic novel. It might seem silly, but in the context, its terrifying. Subconsciously, Max KNOWS he's a simple puppet, and all his suffering is merely to set a backstory for the players.
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* During the first dream sequence, when you reach the corpse of the baby, ''her arm is still moving''.

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* [[spoiler: Victor Branco's operation involves rounding up the poor and impovershed and ''harvesting their organs'' ]]

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* [[spoiler: Victor Branco's operation involves rounding up the poor and impovershed and ''harvesting their organs'' ]]organs''.]]
** As frightening as that is, it's how Max reacts to the discovery of it that is most telling. This is a man who has seen his wife and his baby girl dead, seen most of his friends die in front of his eyes and came face-to-face with the screwed up truth behind Valkyr. He's so horrified it takes him a while to comprehend just what he is seeing when he stumbles across it.
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* [[spoiler: Marcello]]'s [[ManOnFire death]].

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* The first time [[{{Psyonif}} this troper]] ever saw the game, his friend was playing through the hallucination level where Max has to follow the trail of his own child's blood to the room where said baby was brutally murdered. It's fair to say that this dissuaded him buying his own copy of ''Max Payne''.
** What makes the first hallucination sequence even worse for this troper is the fact that they occasionally cut to Max tied to a chair in a Mafia hideout, and allusions to baseball bats are made. A few levels earlier, we were shown the handiwork of a mob executioner who favored baseball bats...
* Also when fighting the mad mafia boss (the name eludes me) when he shrieks (*shrieks*) things like "I have tasted the flesh of FALLEN ANGELS!"
** On top of Ragna Rock and Lupino both being super-creepy, the boss fight itself is a nightmare. For starters, Lupino can absorb a ludicrous amount of lead, and the game does not yet provide you with the heavier hardware. On top of this, mooks spawn during the fight to take you on from all angles. Mix these two together and you get a nightmarish combat sequence ahead of you.

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* The first time [[{{Psyonif}} this troper]] ever saw the game, his friend was playing through the hallucination level where Max has to follow the trail of his own child's blood to the room where said baby was brutally murdered. It's fair to say that this dissuaded him buying his own copy of ''Max Payne''.
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What makes the first hallucination sequence even worse for this troper is the fact that they occasionally cut to Max tied to a chair in a Mafia hideout, and allusions to baseball bats are made. A few levels earlier, we were shown the handiwork of a mob executioner who favored baseball bats...
* Also when fighting the mad mafia boss (the name eludes me) when he shrieks (*shrieks*) things like "I have tasted the flesh of FALLEN ANGELS!"
**
On top of Ragna Rock and Lupino both being super-creepy, the boss fight itself is [[WakeUpCallBoss a nightmare.nightmare]]. For starters, Lupino can absorb a ludicrous amount of lead, and the game does not yet provide you with the heavier hardware. On top of this, mooks spawn during the fight to take you on from all angles. Mix these two together and you get a nightmarish combat sequence ahead of you.
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* The nightmare/hallucination sequences from ''Max Payne'', which include such gems as: the terrified, pleading and weeping voice of Max's late wife Michelle; the baby crying (and ''screaming'' at one point if you fall during the second sequence); creepy music box music; the door from the bathroom being boarded up violently; and lots of creepy imagery, including a cradle on a red floor surrounded by candles like a demonic altar.
** The scream is actually from a parody of ''TwinPeaks'' that is briefly seen in the game, but it's horrifying nonetheless.
* The halllways twist and the walls change. THE WALLS CHANGE! It's... wrong.
* The blood trail sequences are "limbo in a video game."
* The first time [[{{Psyonif}} this troper]] ever saw the game, his friend was playing through the hallucination level where Max has to follow the trail of his own child's blood to the room where said baby was brutally murdered. It's fair to say that this dissuaded him buying his own copy of ''Max Payne''.
** What makes the first hallucination sequence even worse for this troper is the fact that they occasionally cut to Max tied to a chair in a Mafia hideout, and allusions to baseball bats are made. A few levels earlier, we were shown the handiwork of a mob executioner who favored baseball bats...
* Also when fighting the mad mafia boss (the name eludes me) when he shrieks (*shrieks*) things like "I have tasted the flesh of FALLEN ANGELS!"
** On top of Ragna Rock and Lupino both being super-creepy, the boss fight itself is a nightmare. For starters, Lupino can absorb a ludicrous amount of lead, and the game does not yet provide you with the heavier hardware. On top of this, mooks spawn during the fight to take you on from all angles. Mix these two together and you get a nightmarish combat sequence ahead of you.
* What about Vinnie Gognitti's death scene in the second game? Being forced to watch him, in anoter nightmare, no less, being put through a trivia quiz on his favorite TV series with his life hanging in the balance, by the guy you considered to be your ally through most of the game? And the just stand there helplessly, as he gets his head blown off, while he begs for his life? Classic.
* The loading screen for the Prologue of 'A Bit Closer to Heaven'. It sticks around in the quit screen as well.
* [[spoiler: Marcello]]'s [[ManOnFire death]].

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