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* Charun's route starts with a brief line where the player [[spoiler: remembers Karako's bad ending, despite the fact that they died too]]. In Wanshi's route, the narration says they've been having nightmares about [[spoiler: failing Amisia, Karako, and Tirona, the latter two of which had bad endings where they died]]. Just how is the player remembering all this?
* The bad ending for Wanshi's route can be unexpected, even after the part where [[spoiler: a dead body is encountered]]. When arriving at the convention, an [[BearsAreBadNews angry bear]] shows up with many blood colours all over it. The player [[spoiler: manages to kill it, but ends up getting killed when the bear falls on them]], while Wanshi looks shocked and terrified.
** Once again, the [[spoiler: memories of other endings]] are brought up again in the other route, where the player gets messages from Tegiri and Polypa warning them about the bear, [[spoiler: and briefly feel that something could have gone wrong if they were there]].
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* Possibly Paranoia Fuel, but there's something very unnerving about [[spoiler: Lil Cal being in Charun's cave.]] Especially when you consider that Charun themselves is a [[spoiler: chilled out, possibly stoned, Rage-bound artist.]]

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* Possibly Paranoia Fuel, ParanoiaFuel, but there's something very unnerving about [[spoiler: Lil Cal being in Charun's cave.]] Especially when you consider that Charun themselves is a [[spoiler: chilled out, possibly stoned, Rage-bound artist.]]
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* Possibly Paranoia Fuel, but there's something very unnerving about [[spoiler: Lil Cal being in Charun's cave.]] Especially when you consider that Charun themselves is a [[spoiler: chilled out, possibly stoned, Rage-bound artist.]]
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** Knowledge of Homestuck softens this a bit by presenting the possibility that [[spoiler: the carousel is part of the Dark Carnival from the Purpleblood religion come to take Karako's soul away and by dying trying to avenge him the player proves worthy of the same afterlife. It can get ''worse'' when you remember who the Dark Carnival [[BigBad is associate with.]]]]

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** Knowledge of Homestuck softens this a bit by presenting the possibility that [[spoiler: the carousel is part of the Dark Carnival from the Purpleblood religion come to take Karako's soul away and by dying trying to avenge him the player proves worthy of the same afterlife. It can get ''worse'' when you remember who the Dark Carnival [[BigBad is associate associated with.]]]]
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** Knowledge of Homestuck softens this a bit by presenting the possibility that [[spoiler: the carousel is part of the Dark Carnival from the Purpleblood religion come to take Karako's soul away and by dying trying to avenge him the player proves worthy of the same afterlife. It can get ''worse'' when you remember who the Dark Carnival [[BigBad is associate with.]]]]
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* Simply doing something as innocuous as patting a newfound friend on the back or suppressing an urge to dance with your friend [[ParanoiaFuel can lead to horrific, unthinkable consequences]] such as the player accidentally snapping someone's neck and killing them, or being forced to try executing a troll who can't protest due to having his tongue ripped out.

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* Simply doing something as innocuous as patting a newfound friend on the back or suppressing an urge to dance with your friend [[ParanoiaFuel can lead to horrific, unthinkable consequences]] such as the player accidentally snapping someone's neck and killing them, or being forced to try executing a troll who can't protest due to having his tongue ripped out. And then there's the endings where ''you'' die...



* [[spoiler: Karako's]] bad ending is [[MindScrew very confusing]]. First of all, after getting angered by some Violetbloods, he'll become very angry [[RedEyesTakeWarning and his eyes will turn red]]. If you don't stop him from attacking them, [[spoiler: they'll fight back and kill him, and unlike the deaths of Diemen, Tirona, and Boldir, his blood is actually shown]]. And he's implied to be the ''youngest'' Troll Call troll. But that's not all. After that, [[spoiler: the sky seemingly opens to reveal a carousel with model trolls that come to take him away. Then there's some narration about how the player feels not just about this, but about who and what they are. They then decide to avenge Karako's death, trying and failing to attack the seadwellers. Then the carousel appears again and takes them away too]], [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext and no explanation is given for what just happened]].

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* [[spoiler: Karako's]] bad ending is [[MindScrew very confusing]]. First of all, after getting angered by some Violetbloods, he'll become very angry [[RedEyesTakeWarning and his eyes will turn red]]. If you don't the player doesn't stop him from attacking them, [[spoiler: they'll fight back and kill him, and unlike the deaths of Diemen, Tirona, and Boldir, his blood is actually shown]]. And he's implied to be the ''youngest'' Troll Call troll. But that's not all. After that, [[spoiler: the sky seemingly opens to reveal a carousel with model trolls that come to take him away. Then there's some narration about how the player feels not just about this, but about who and what they are. They then decide to avenge Karako's death, trying and failing to attack the seadwellers. Then the carousel appears again and takes them away too]], [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext and no explanation is given for what just happened]].
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* [[spoiler: Karako's]] bad ending is [[MindScrew very confusing]]. First of all, after getting angered by some Violetbloods, he'll become very angry [[RedEyesTakeWarning and his eyes will turn red]]. If you don't stop him from attacking them, [[spoiler: they'll fight back and kill him, and unlike the deaths of Diemen, Tirona, and Boldir, his blood is actually shown]]. And he's implied to be the ''youngest'' Troll Call troll. But that's not all. After that, [[spoiler: the sky seemingly opens to reveal a carousel with model trolls that come to take him away. Then there's some narration about how the player feels not just about this, but about who and what they are. They then decide to avenge Karako's death, trying and failing to attack the seadwellers. Then the carousel appears again and takes them away too]], [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext and no explanation is given for what just happened]].

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* [[spoiler: Karako's]] bad ending is [[MindScrew very confusing]]. First of all, after getting angered by some Violetbloods, he'll become very angry [[RedEyesTakeWarning and his eyes will turn red]]. If you don't stop him from attacking them, [[spoiler: they'll fight back and kill him, and unlike the deaths of Diemen, Tirona, and Boldir, his blood is actually shown]]. And he's implied to be the ''youngest'' Troll Call troll. But that's not all. After that, [[spoiler: the sky seemingly opens to reveal a carousel with model trolls that come to take him away. Then there's some narration about how the player feels not just about this, but about who and what they are. They then decide to avenge Karako's death, trying and failing to attack the seadwellers. Then the carousel appears again and takes them away too]], [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext and no explanation is given for what just happened]].happened]].
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** After the bad ending screen, a narration box appears and says "Again? Must I do everything myself?" It's unknown who is saying this, as the player has only been narrated in second person.

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** After the bad ending screen, a narration box appears and says "Again? Must I do everything myself?" [[NothingIsScarier It's unknown who is saying this, this]], as the player has only been narrated in second person.
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* As shown in the page image, Bronya's bad endings can either involve you [[spoiler: accidentally sitting on a grub]], or [[spoiler: trying to stop a lusus rampage, resulting in you causing the deahts of many grubs and lusii]]. And in both of these endings, Bronya's expressions can be terrifying.

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* As shown in the page image, Bronya's bad endings can either involve you [[spoiler: accidentally sitting on a grub]], or [[spoiler: trying to stop a lusus rampage, resulting in [[spoiler: you causing the deahts deaths of many grubs and lusii]]. And in both of these endings, Bronya's expressions can be terrifying.



* The scene where [[spoiler:Konyyl massacres the bandits]] causes the PC to suffer a breakdown, because it's finally registered in their mind both that the multicoloured mess is blood and that all the trolls killing each other all the time are [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior still children]].

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* The scene where [[spoiler:Konyyl massacres the bandits]] causes the PC player to suffer a breakdown, because it's finally registered in their mind both that the multicoloured mess is blood and that all the trolls killing each other all the time are [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior still children]].



** The bad ending also has [[spoiler: the player having feelings about having lost friends before, and feeling confused about why they are feeling that way. Do they remember the bad endings of previous routes, and the deaths of Diemen and Tirona?]]

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** The bad ending also has [[spoiler: the player having feelings about having lost friends before, and feeling confused about why they are feeling that way. way]]. Do they remember the bad endings of previous routes, and the deaths of [[spoiler: Diemen and Tirona?]]


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* A subtle example occurs in Marsti's route where the player mentions that when trying to make friends, they'll either die, or the potential friends will leave them or make them go away. Marsti asks how the player dying could be possible, leading them to correct themself and say it was metaphorical. [[spoiler: It doesn't help that the narration implies that they're having thoughts that don't make sense, similar to what happened in the bad ending of Boldir's route]]. And when the player goes to the same area where [[spoiler: Boldir died]], the narration says that for a moment they felt as if they'd been there before...

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* Ardata runs a red room in her basement, mind controlling her captives into not attempting to leave their unlocked cages, and forcing them to build their own torture equipment (without necessary tools, no less) in a manner fans have described as an IKEA from hell.



* Ardata runs a red room in her basement, mind controlling her captives into not attempting to leave their unlocked cages, and forcing them to build their own torture equipment (without necessary tools, no less) in a manner fans have described as an IKEA from hell.
* The scene where [[spoiler:Konyyl massacres the bandits]] causes the PC to suffer a breakdown, because it's finally registered in their mind both that the multicoloured mess is blood and that all the trolls killing each other all the time are [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior still children]].

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* Ardata runs a red room As shown in her basement, mind controlling her captives into not attempting the page image, Bronya's bad endings can either involve you [[spoiler: accidentally sitting on a grub]], or [[spoiler: trying to leave their unlocked cages, stop a lusus rampage, resulting in you causing the deahts of many grubs and forcing them to build their own torture equipment (without necessary tools, no less) lusii]]. And in a manner fans have described as an IKEA from hell.
* The scene where [[spoiler:Konyyl massacres the bandits]] causes the PC to suffer a breakdown, because it's finally registered in their mind
both that the multicoloured mess is blood and that all the trolls killing each other all the time are [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior still children]].of these endings, Bronya's expressions can be terrifying.



* The scene where [[spoiler:Konyyl massacres the bandits]] causes the PC to suffer a breakdown, because it's finally registered in their mind both that the multicoloured mess is blood and that all the trolls killing each other all the time are [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior still children]].



** After the bad ending screen, a narration box appears and says "Again? Must I do everything myself?" It's unknown who is saying this, as the player has only been narrated in second person.

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** After the bad ending screen, a narration box appears and says "Again? Must I do everything myself?" It's unknown who is saying this, as the player has only been narrated in second person.person.
* [[spoiler: Karako's]] bad ending is [[MindScrew very confusing]]. First of all, after getting angered by some Violetbloods, he'll become very angry [[RedEyesTakeWarning and his eyes will turn red]]. If you don't stop him from attacking them, [[spoiler: they'll fight back and kill him, and unlike the deaths of Diemen, Tirona, and Boldir, his blood is actually shown]]. And he's implied to be the ''youngest'' Troll Call troll. But that's not all. After that, [[spoiler: the sky seemingly opens to reveal a carousel with model trolls that come to take him away. Then there's some narration about how the player feels not just about this, but about who and what they are. They then decide to avenge Karako's death, trying and failing to attack the seadwellers. Then the carousel appears again and takes them away too]], [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext and no explanation is given for what just happened]].
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* Boldir's bad ending has her [[spoiler: being shot with poison, and dying]], while the player can't do anything, and the ending image is pretty horrifying to look at. Even her ''good'' ending is still scary because [[spoiler: [[InSpiteOfANail she still gets poisoned]], and while you ''can'' save her this time, it's still unsettling that there seems to be an assassin after her for whatever reason, the people in the cafe are unfazed by the fact that she's dying, and the ending screen just says "DIDN'T DIE" instead of "VICTORY" or some other happy message]].

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* Boldir's bad ending has her [[spoiler: being shot with poison, and dying]], while the player can't do anything, and the ending image is pretty horrifying to look at. Even her ''good'' ending is still scary because [[spoiler: [[InSpiteOfANail she still gets poisoned]], and while you ''can'' save her this time, it's still unsettling that there seems to be an assassin after her for whatever reason, the people in the cafe are unfazed by the fact that she's dying, and the ending screen just says "DIDN'T DIE" instead of "VICTORY" or some other happy message]].message]].
** The bad ending also has [[spoiler: the player having feelings about having lost friends before, and feeling confused about why they are feeling that way. Do they remember the bad endings of previous routes, and the deaths of Diemen and Tirona?]]
** After the bad ending screen, a narration box appears and says "Again? Must I do everything myself?" It's unknown who is saying this, as the player has only been narrated in second person.
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* The player can [[spoiler:accidentally get Tirona killed]] in one path of her route- you try to break into Tegiri's office, which is booby-trapped. The player dodges the trap, but [[spoiler:Tirona]] doesn't...

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* The player can [[spoiler:accidentally get Tirona killed]] in one path of her route- you try to break into Tegiri's office, which is booby-trapped. The player dodges the trap, but [[spoiler:Tirona]] doesn't...doesn't...
* Boldir's bad ending has her [[spoiler: being shot with poison, and dying]], while the player can't do anything, and the ending image is pretty horrifying to look at. Even her ''good'' ending is still scary because [[spoiler: [[InSpiteOfANail she still gets poisoned]], and while you ''can'' save her this time, it's still unsettling that there seems to be an assassin after her for whatever reason, the people in the cafe are unfazed by the fact that she's dying, and the ending screen just says "DIDN'T DIE" instead of "VICTORY" or some other happy message]].
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* Lynera's general [[{{Yandere}} deme]][[AxCrazy anor]] throughout her entire route. Special mention goes to the NightmareFace she makes when [[spoiler:she threatens to stab you to death after you lie about being Bronya's best friend]] - which is also the face she makes when you mouseover her in the route selection screen!

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* Lynera's general [[{{Yandere}} deme]][[AxCrazy anor]] throughout her entire route. Special mention goes to the NightmareFace she makes when [[spoiler:she threatens to stab you to death after you lie about being Bronya's best friend]] - which is also the face she makes when you mouseover her in the route selection screen!screen!
* The player can [[spoiler:accidentally get Tirona killed]] in one path of her route- you try to break into Tegiri's office, which is booby-trapped. The player dodges the trap, but [[spoiler:Tirona]] doesn't...
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* Clown church is revealed to be a mundane activity, with purplebloods getting high on Faygo and glittery incense while giving random sermons... if not for the fact that lowbloods are forced to attend in chains, presumably to be used as sacrifices. The church hall itself is covered with blood splatters of various colours, and in one of the routes, [[spoiler:you end getting killed when your mutant blood colour is discovered and added to the morbid decoration of the church]].

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* Clown church is revealed to be a mundane activity, with purplebloods getting high on Faygo and glittery incense while giving random sermons... if not for the fact that lowbloods are forced to attend in chains, presumably to be used as sacrifices. The church hall itself is covered with blood splatters of various colours, and in one of the routes, [[spoiler:you end up getting killed when your mutant blood colour is discovered and added to the morbid decoration of the church]].
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* Clown church is revealed to be a mundane activity, with purplebloods getting high on Faygo and glittery incense while giving random sermons... if not for the fact that lowbloods are forced to attend in chains, presumably to be used as sacrifices. The church hall itself is covered with blood splatters of various colours, and in one of the routes, [[spoiler:you end getting killed when your mutant blood colour is discovered and added to the morbid decoration of the church]].

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* Clown church is revealed to be a mundane activity, with purplebloods getting high on Faygo and glittery incense while giving random sermons... if not for the fact that lowbloods are forced to attend in chains, presumably to be used as sacrifices. The church hall itself is covered with blood splatters of various colours, and in one of the routes, [[spoiler:you end getting killed when your mutant blood colour is discovered and added to the morbid decoration of the church]].church]].
* Lynera's general [[{{Yandere}} deme]][[AxCrazy anor]] throughout her entire route. Special mention goes to the NightmareFace she makes when [[spoiler:she threatens to stab you to death after you lie about being Bronya's best friend]] - which is also the face she makes when you mouseover her in the route selection screen!

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* During Chahut's route, the player comes face to face with ''[[spoiler: The Grand Highblood]]'' over video call. [[spoiler: Thankfully he thinks your ability to survive Alternia against impossible odds makes being your friend a good thing for Chahut, though he does warn you to never let him see your face again.]]

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* During Chahut's route, the player comes face to face with ''[[spoiler: The Grand Highblood]]'' over video call. [[spoiler: Thankfully he thinks your ability to survive Alternia against impossible odds makes bad ending for Kuprum and Folykl's route involves [[spoiler:you participating in a non-consensual psychic three-way, before being completely drained of energy and left for dead]].
* Clown church is revealed to be a mundane activity, with purplebloods getting high on Faygo and glittery incense while giving random sermons... if not for the fact that lowbloods are forced to attend in chains, presumably to be used as sacrifices. The church hall itself is covered with blood splatters of various colours, and in one of the routes, [[spoiler:you end getting killed when
your friend a good thing for Chahut, though he does warn you mutant blood colour is discovered and added to never let him see your face again.]]the morbid decoration of the church]].
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* Going outside for more than a few minutes in the Alternian sun can quite literally cook you to death, and we see this happen in a Game Over route. It's played for laughs there, but later a troll suffers mild burns just from having one arm outside for a few seconds. The damage that could do to a person... eek.

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* Going outside for more than a few minutes in the Alternian sun can quite literally cook you to death, and we see this happen in a Game Over route. It's played for laughs there, but later a troll suffers mild burns just from having one arm outside for a few seconds. The damage that could do to a person... eek.eek.
* During Chahut's route, the player comes face to face with ''[[spoiler: The Grand Highblood]]'' over video call. [[spoiler: Thankfully he thinks your ability to survive Alternia against impossible odds makes being your friend a good thing for Chahut, though he does warn you to never let him see your face again.]]
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* Cirava Hermod ''[[EyeScream gouged out their own eye]]'' to suppress their psionic powers. Eye injuries are a recurring theme in the Homestuck universe, but however Cirava's happened, it seems to be more horrific than most, with yellow veins streaking across half their face...

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* Cirava Hermod ''[[EyeScream gouged out their own eye]]'' to suppress their psionic powers. Eye injuries are a recurring theme in the Homestuck universe, but however Cirava's happened, it seems to be more horrific than most, with yellow veins streaking across half their face...face...
* Ardata runs a red room in her basement, mind controlling her captives into not attempting to leave their unlocked cages, and forcing them to build their own torture equipment (without necessary tools, no less) in a manner fans have described as an IKEA from hell.
* The scene where [[spoiler:Konyyl massacres the bandits]] causes the PC to suffer a breakdown, because it's finally registered in their mind both that the multicoloured mess is blood and that all the trolls killing each other all the time are [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior still children]].
* Going outside for more than a few minutes in the Alternian sun can quite literally cook you to death, and we see this happen in a Game Over route. It's played for laughs there, but later a troll suffers mild burns just from having one arm outside for a few seconds. The damage that could do to a person... eek.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Remember when this game was just a silly quest to find yourself some alien friends, and not... you know... a chance to ''accidentally slaughter an entire nursery of grubs''?]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Remember when this game [[caption-width-right:350:When was just the last time a silly quest to find yourself some alien friends, and not... visual novel let you know... a chance to ''accidentally slaughter get an entire nursery of grubs''?]]killed?]]
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There's a reason this game has a much higher age rating than ''VideoGame/Hiveswap''...

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There's a reason this game has a much higher age rating than ''[[VideoGame/{{Hiveswap}}]]''...

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There's a reason this game has a much higher age rating than ''[[VideoGame/{{Hiveswap}}]]''...''VideoGame/Hiveswap''...
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[[caption-width-right:350:Remember when this game was just a silly quest to find yourself some alien friends, and not... you know... a chance to ''accidentally slaughter an entire generation of grubs''?]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Remember when this game was just a silly quest to find yourself some alien friends, and not... you know... a chance to ''accidentally slaughter an entire generation nursery of grubs''?]]
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* Simply doing something as innocuous as patting a newfound friend on the back or suppressing an urge to dance with your friend [[ParanoiaFuel can lead to horrific, unthinkable consequences]] such as the player accidentally snapping someone's neck and killing them, or being forced to try executing a troll who can't protest due to having his tongue ripped out.
* Cirava Hermod ''[[EyeScream gouged out their own eye]]'' to suppress their psionic powers. Eye injuries are a recurring theme in the Homestuck universe, but however Cirava's happened, it seems to be more horrific than most, with yellow veins streaking across half their face...

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