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** ''Film Theory'' makes the point that it's not just textbook stalking and abuse—it's textbook ''cult indoctrination''. Christian's actions in the first film are, essentially, him brainwashing Ana to do whatever he wants and not stand up for herself.

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** ''Film Theory'' ''[[WebVideo/GameTheory Film Theory]]'' makes the point that it's not just textbook stalking and abuse—it's textbook ''cult indoctrination''. Christian's actions in the first film are, essentially, him brainwashing Ana to do whatever he wants and not stand up for herself.
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* Elena's 'relationship' with Christian, which is actually statutory rape and grooming. She was in her thirties and a family friend, who took advantage of her friend's ''fifteen year old'' son when he was in a very troubled state in his life, feeling isolated and lost. She had him performing BDSM acts with her and keeping it a secret from everyone, and convinced him that he was incapable of having intimate relationships that didn't involve intimiate relationships. Years later he still believes nothing they did together was abnormal and that she's the only person who truly understands him, which she also tells him. The whole situation is extremely disturbing...and the worst part is that besides being otracized by the Greys when she's foumd out, Elena basically gets away with it.

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* Elena's 'relationship' with Christian, which is actually statutory rape and grooming. She was in her thirties and a family friend, who took advantage of her friend's ''fifteen year old'' son when he was in a very troubled state in his life, feeling isolated and lost. She had him performing BDSM acts with her and keeping it a secret from everyone, and convinced him that he was incapable of having intimate relationships that didn't involve intimiate relationships.violence, control and domination (which explains a lot about his relationship with Ana). Years later he still believes nothing they did together was abnormal and that she's the only person who truly understands him, which she also tells him. The whole situation is extremely disturbing...and the worst part is that besides being otracized by the Greys when she's foumd out, Elena basically gets away with it.
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* Elena's 'relationship' with Christian, which is actually statutory rape and grooming. She was in her thirties and a family friend, who took advantage of her friend's ''fifteen year old'' son when he was in a very troubled state in his life, feeling isolated and lost. She had him performing BDSM acts with her and keeping it a secret from everyone, and convinced him that he was incapable of having intimate relationships that didn't involve intimiate relationships. Years later he still believes nothing they did together was abnormal and that she's the only person who truly understands him, which she also tells him. The whole situation is extremely disturbing...and the worst part is that besides being otracized by the Greys when she's foumd out, Elena basically gets away with it.
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* Christian's reaction to learning that Anastasia is pregnant in ''Freed''. He yells, throws a dish and begins blaming her for the entire thing, because [[SarcasmMode clearly]] [[NeverMyFault him having sex with her did not lead to this]]. And after he's done yelling at her for a good few minutes, to the point that Anastasia is shell-shocked onto her chair and afraid to move, Christian leaves and gets drunk, with an implication that he ''may'' have had sex with Elena at the time, too. Just imagine having to break the news of pregnancy to your partner and '''that''' being their reaction.

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* Christian's reaction to learning that Anastasia is pregnant in ''Freed''. He yells, throws a dish and begins blaming her for the entire thing, because [[SarcasmMode clearly]] [[NeverMyFault him having sex with her did not lead to this]]. And after he's done yelling at her for a good few minutes, to the point that Anastasia is shell-shocked onto her chair and afraid to move, Christian leaves and gets drunk, with an implication that he ''may'' have had sex with Elena at the time, too. Just imagine having to break the news of pregnancy to your partner and '''that''' being their reaction. To make matters extra horrible, Ana actually ''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck anticipated]]'' he'd react poorly the moment she learned she was pregnant, though she's still caught off guard by how badly he takes it.
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** Anastasia drinks too much, throws up and passes out, only to wake up half-naked in Christian's bed and she has no memory of what happened. That alone is scary enough, but then Anastasia asks where Christian slept. And he simply says he slept right next to her. Holy crap! Just thinking of Anastasia, a drunk, unconscious woman, being dragged around and undressed by a man, to wake up in a place she doesn't know, a bed she isn't familiar with and no recollection of getting there. And then learning that a stranger was sleeping next to her, who could've done whatever he wanted and she wouldn't have known.

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** Anastasia drinks too much, throws up and passes out, only to wake up half-naked in Christian's bed and she has no memory of what happened. That alone is scary enough, but then Anastasia asks where Christian slept. And he simply says he slept right next to her. Holy crap! Just thinking of Anastasia, a drunk, unconscious woman, being dragged around and [[UndressingTheUnconscious undressed by a man, man]], to [[WakingUpElsewhere wake up in a place she doesn't know, know]], a bed she isn't familiar with and [[WhatDidIDoLastNight no recollection of getting there.there]]. And then learning that a stranger was sleeping next to her, who could've done whatever he wanted and she wouldn't have known.
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* The ''majority'' of Christian Grey's behavior is nightmare fuel because it's textbook {{stalk|er with a crush}}ing and [[DomesticAbuse abuse]].

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* The ''majority'' of Christian Grey's behavior is nightmare fuel because it's textbook {{stalk|er with a crush}}ing and [[DomesticAbuse abuse]]. He gets away with it because he's handsome and rich.
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* To many, the idea of Christian '''being a father'''. If he reacts like the above example upon learning about Ana's pregnancy, [[FridgeHorror who's to say he'll be kinder to the child]]?

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* To many, the idea of Christian '''being a father'''. If he reacts like the above example upon learning about Ana's pregnancy, [[FridgeHorror who's to say he'll be kinder to the child]]?child/children]]?
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When the plot revolves around a control freak and a doormat, some moments are ''[[StealthPun bound]]'' to make you feel uncomfortable.

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When the plot revolves around a control freak and a doormat, some moments are ''[[StealthPun ''[[{{Pun}} bound]]'' to make you feel uncomfortable.
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** ''Film Theory'' makes the point that it's not just textbook stalking and abuse- it's textbook ''cult indoctrination''. Christian's actions in the first film are, essentially, him brainwashing Ana to do whatever he wants and not stand up for herself.

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** ''Film Theory'' makes the point that it's not just textbook stalking and abuse- it's abuse—it's textbook ''cult indoctrination''. Christian's actions in the first film are, essentially, him brainwashing Ana to do whatever he wants and not stand up for herself.
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** Christian has 'taken Anastasia's panties hostage' and will not return them to her, unless she begs him for them. Not wanting to beg, Anastasia [[GoingCommando goes commando]] to lunch with Christian's family at their home. Christian tries to finger Anastasia ''at the lunch table'', but she stops him. And then Christian decides to take Anastasia to the boathouse and rape her, because she ''dared'' to not let him do as he pleases. Including the VictimBlaming he pulls there, the entire scene reads like the preparation for a horror-snuff film.

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** Christian has 'taken Anastasia's panties hostage' and will not return them to her, unless she begs him for them. Not wanting to beg, Anastasia [[GoingCommando goes commando]] to lunch with Christian's family at their home. Christian tries to finger Anastasia ''at the lunch table'', but she stops him. And then Christian decides to take Anastasia to the boathouse and rape her, because she ''dared'' to not let him do as he pleases. Including the VictimBlaming UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming he pulls there, the entire scene reads like the preparation for a horror-snuff film.
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** Chapter 12 of ''50 Shades'', he receives an e-Mail from Anastasia, in which she (unbeknownst to him, jokingly) said she was not interested in getting into a BDSM-relationship with him. Christian proceeds to [[DisproportionateRetribution ''break into her home and have sex with her against her will'']]. As bad as that already is in itself, the real horror is revealed when it's pointed out that Kate was in the apartment, too, but '''didn't know''' what was going on.

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** Chapter 12 of ''50 Shades'', he receives an e-Mail from Anastasia, in which she (unbeknownst to him, jokingly) said she was not interested in getting into a BDSM-relationship with him. Christian proceeds to [[DisproportionateRetribution ''break ''[[DisproportionateRetribution break into her home and have sex with her against her will'']].will]]''. As bad as that already is in itself, the real horror is revealed when it's pointed out that Kate was in the apartment, too, but '''didn't know''' what was going on.
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** Chapter 12 of ''50 Shades'', he receives an e-Mail from Anastasia, in which she (unbeknownst to him, jokingly) said she was not interested in getting into a BDSM-relationship with him. Christian proceeds to ''break into her home and have sex with her against her will''. As bad as that already is in itself, the real horror is revealed when it's pointed out that Kate was in the apartment, too, but '''didn't know''' what was going on.

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** Chapter 12 of ''50 Shades'', he receives an e-Mail from Anastasia, in which she (unbeknownst to him, jokingly) said she was not interested in getting into a BDSM-relationship with him. Christian proceeds to [[DisproportionateRetribution ''break into her home and have sex with her against her will''.will'']]. As bad as that already is in itself, the real horror is revealed when it's pointed out that Kate was in the apartment, too, but '''didn't know''' what was going on.
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** ''Film Theory'' makes the point that it's not just textbook stalking- it's textbook ''cult indoctrination''. Christian's actions in the first film are, essentially, him brainwashing Ana to do whatever he wants and not stand up for herself.

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** ''Film Theory'' makes the point that it's not just textbook stalking- stalking and abuse- it's textbook ''cult indoctrination''. Christian's actions in the first film are, essentially, him brainwashing Ana to do whatever he wants and not stand up for herself.
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* The ''majority'' of Christian Grey's behavior is nightmare fuel because it's textbook {{stalk|er with a crush}}ing.

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* The ''majority'' of Christian Grey's behavior is nightmare fuel because it's textbook {{stalk|er with a crush}}ing.crush}}ing and [[DomesticAbuse abuse]].

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* Christian's reaction to learning that Anastasia is pregnant in ''Freed''. He yells, throws a dish and begins blaming her for the entire thing, because [[SarcasmMode clearly]] [[NeverMyFault him having sex with her did not lead to this]]. And after he's done yelling at her for a good few minutes, to the point that Anastasia is shell-shocked onto her chair and afraid to move, Christian leaves and gets drunk, with an implication that he ''may'' have had sex with Elena at the time, too. Just imagine having to break the news of pregnancy to your partner and '''that''' being their reaction. To many, the idea of Christian '''being a father'''. If he reacts like that upon learning about Ana's pregnancy, [[FridgeHorror who's to say he'll be kinder to the child]]?

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* Christian's reaction to learning that Anastasia is pregnant in ''Freed''. He yells, throws a dish and begins blaming her for the entire thing, because [[SarcasmMode clearly]] [[NeverMyFault him having sex with her did not lead to this]]. And after he's done yelling at her for a good few minutes, to the point that Anastasia is shell-shocked onto her chair and afraid to move, Christian leaves and gets drunk, with an implication that he ''may'' have had sex with Elena at the time, too. Just imagine having to break the news of pregnancy to your partner and '''that''' being their reaction. reaction.
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To many, the idea of Christian '''being a father'''. If he reacts like that the above example upon learning about Ana's pregnancy, [[FridgeHorror who's to say he'll be kinder to the child]]?

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When the plot revolves around a control freak and a doormat, some moments are ''bound'' to make you feel uncomfortable.

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When the plot revolves around a control freak and a doormat, some moments are ''bound'' ''[[StealthPun bound]]'' to make you feel uncomfortable.



* Christian's reaction to learning that Anastasia is pregnant in ''Freed''. He yells, throws a dish and begins blaming her for the entire thing, because [[SarcasmMode clearly]] [[NeverMyFault him having sex with her did not lead to this]]. And after he's done yelling at her for a good few minutes, to the point that Anastasia is shell-shocked onto her chair and afraid to move, Christian leaves and gets drunk, with an implication that he ''may'' have had sex with Elena at the time, too. Just imagine having to break the news of pregnancy to your partner and '''that''' being their reaction.
** To many, the idea of Christian '''being a father'''. If he reacts like that upon learning about Ana's pregnancy, [[FridgeHorror who's to say he'll be kinder to the child]]?

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* Christian's reaction to learning that Anastasia is pregnant in ''Freed''. He yells, throws a dish and begins blaming her for the entire thing, because [[SarcasmMode clearly]] [[NeverMyFault him having sex with her did not lead to this]]. And after he's done yelling at her for a good few minutes, to the point that Anastasia is shell-shocked onto her chair and afraid to move, Christian leaves and gets drunk, with an implication that he ''may'' have had sex with Elena at the time, too. Just imagine having to break the news of pregnancy to your partner and '''that''' being their reaction.
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reaction. To many, the idea of Christian '''being a father'''. If he reacts like that upon learning about Ana's pregnancy, [[FridgeHorror who's to say he'll be kinder to the child]]?
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** ''Film Theory'' makes the point that it's not just textbook stalking- it's textbook ''cult indoctrination''. Christian's actions in the first film are, essentially, him brainwashing Ana to do whatever he wants and not stand up for herself.
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*** I think what makes this weirder is that in "Grey", the version of 50 Shades as told by Christian, when Ana wakes up, Christian's thoughts are "Keep it casual, Grey. You don't want to be charged with kidnapping." Now, call me crazy, but that is a thought no normal or decent person should EVER have in any situation. If that is a thought you're having, then you've probably done something wrong.
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***I think what makes this weirder is that in "Grey", the version of 50 Shades as told by Christian, when Ana wakes up, Christian's thoughts are "Keep it casual, Grey. You don't want to be charged with kidnapping." Now, call me crazy, but that is a thought no normal or decent person should EVER have in any situation. If that is a thought you're having, then you've probably done something wrong.

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** To many, the idea of Christian '''being a father'''. If he reacts like that upon learning about Ana's pregnancy, [[FridgeHorror who's to say he'll be kinder to the child]]?



* To many, the idea of Christian '''[[spoiler:being a father]]'''.

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* In ''Freed'', Hyde kidnaps Mia Grey. After she's rescued, it's revealed that he gave her a date-rape drug. And given how Hyde has a history of raping and blackmailing women by recording the intercourse, it's pure horror to think what he was going to do to her. Or was ''already'' doing to her, before he was arrested.

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* In ''Freed'', Hyde kidnaps Mia Grey. After she's rescued, it's revealed that he gave her a date-rape drug. And given how Hyde has a history of raping and blackmailing women by recording the intercourse, it's pure horror to think what he was going to do to her. Or was ''already'' doing to her, before he was arrested.arrested.
* To many, the idea of Christian '''[[spoiler:being a father]]'''.
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** Anastasia drinks too much, throws up and passes out, only to wake up half-naked in Christian's bed and she has no memory of what happened. That alone is scary enough, but then Anastasia asks where Christian selpt. And he simply says he slept right next to her. Holy crap! Just thinking of Anastasia, a drunk, unconscious woman, being dragged around and undressed by a man, to wake up in a place she doesn't know, a bed she isn't familiar with and no recollection of getting there. And then learning that a stranger was sleeping next to her, who could've done whatever he wanted and she wouldn't have known.

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** Anastasia drinks too much, throws up and passes out, only to wake up half-naked in Christian's bed and she has no memory of what happened. That alone is scary enough, but then Anastasia asks where Christian selpt.slept. And he simply says he slept right next to her. Holy crap! Just thinking of Anastasia, a drunk, unconscious woman, being dragged around and undressed by a man, to wake up in a place she doesn't know, a bed she isn't familiar with and no recollection of getting there. And then learning that a stranger was sleeping next to her, who could've done whatever he wanted and she wouldn't have known.
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** Christian has 'taken Anastasia's panties hostage' and will not return them to her, unless she begs him for them. Not wanting to beg, Anastasia [[GoingCommando goes commando]] to lunch with Christian's family at their home. Christian tries to finger Anastasia ''at the lunch table'', but she stops him. And then Christian decides to take Anastasia to the boathouse and rape her, because she ''dared'' to not let him do as he pleases. Including the VictimBlaming he pulls there, the entire scene reads like the preparation for a horror-snuff film.
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** Anastasia drinks too much, throws up and passes out, only to wake up half-naked in Christian's bed and she has no memory of what happened. That alone is scary enough, but then Anastasia asks where Christian selpt. And he simply says he slept right next to her. Holy crap! Just thinking of Anastasia, a drunk, unconscious woman, being dragged around and undressed by a man, to wake up in a place she doesn't know, a bed she isn't familiar with and no recollection of getting there. And then learning that a stranger was sleeping next to her, who could've done whatever he wanted and she wouldn't have known.

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** Practically every word Christian tells Anastasia is {{gaslighting}}. He verbally manipulates her into consenting to sex, into continuing in a job, where he became a partner to the company, into becoming ''head'' of that company, when she has no intention of owning one, into forgiving his actions by stating his FreudianExcuse and blaming everything on his mommy. And it ''works''. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Every. Time.]]



* In ''Freed'', Hyde kidnaps Mia Grey. After she's rescued, it's revealed that he gave her a date-rape drug. And given how Hyde has a history of raping, and blackmailing women by recording the intercourse, it's pure horror to think what he was going to do to her. Or was ''already'' doing to her, before he was arrested.

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* In ''Freed'', Hyde kidnaps Mia Grey. After she's rescued, it's revealed that he gave her a date-rape drug. And given how Hyde has a history of raping, raping and blackmailing women by recording the intercourse, it's pure horror to think what he was going to do to her. Or was ''already'' doing to her, before he was arrested.
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* Christian's reaction to learning that Anastasia is pregnant in ''Freed''. He yells, throws a dish and begins blaming her for the entire thing, because [[SarcasmMode clearly]] [[NeverMyFault him having sex with her did not lead to this]]. And after he's done yelling at her for a good few minutes, to the point that Anastasia is shell-shocked onto her chair and afraid to move, Christian leaves and gets drunk, with an implication that he ''may'' have had sex with Elena at the time, too. Just imagine having to break the news of pregnancy to your partner and '''that''' being their reaction.
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* In ''Darker'', Christian is left alone with his ex-submissive and stalker Leila, who had [[HeroicBSOD broken down]]. He admits that he gave her a bath. To a woman who was emotionally dependent on him and who was unresponsive to other people. And whom he then had carted off to a mental institution.

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* In ''Darker'', Christian is left alone with his ex-submissive and stalker Leila, who had [[HeroicBSOD broken down]]. He admits that he gave her a bath. To a woman who was emotionally dependent on him and who was unresponsive to other people. And whom he then had carted off to a mental institution.institution.
* In ''Freed'', Hyde kidnaps Mia Grey. After she's rescued, it's revealed that he gave her a date-rape drug. And given how Hyde has a history of raping, and blackmailing women by recording the intercourse, it's pure horror to think what he was going to do to her. Or was ''already'' doing to her, before he was arrested.

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* ''Majority'' of Christian Grey's behavior is nightmare fuel because it's textbook Stalking.

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* ''Majority'' The ''majority'' of Christian Grey's behavior is nightmare fuel because it's textbook Stalking.{{stalk|er with a crush}}ing.


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** Not only does Christian dictate what Ana should do and eat, and also constantly checks in on her, but when Ana jokingly says that she would run away...
-->''"Alaska is very cold and no place to run. I would find you. [[ParanoiaFuel I can track your cell phone]]--'' remember?''"''
** It is very clear that the author has a warped view of a healthy BDSM relationship, because there are several instances of unsafe practices that occur without Ana's consent, and Christian even rapes her several times.
-->''He bends and starts undoing one of my sneakers. [[OhCrap Oh no]]... no... my feet. No. I've just been running. "No," I protest, trying to kick him off. He stops. "If you struggle, I'll tie your feet too. If you make a noise, Anastasia, I will gag you."''
** This is made even worse knowing that this is portrayed in a positive, "kinky" light, depicting [[RomanticizedAbuse this]] as a relationship to aspire to.
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** Chapter 12 of ''50 Shades'', he receives an e-Mail from Anastasia, in which she (unbeknownst to him, jokingly) said she was not interested in getting into a BDSM-relationship with him. Christian proceeds to ''break into her home and have sex with her against her will''. The fact that Anastasia's roommate, Kate, was only a room or two away ''and didn't know that Christian was there'' makes it worse.

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** Chapter 12 of ''50 Shades'', he receives an e-Mail from Anastasia, in which she (unbeknownst to him, jokingly) said she was not interested in getting into a BDSM-relationship with him. Christian proceeds to ''break into her home and have sex with her against her will''. The fact As bad as that Anastasia's roommate, Kate, was only a room or two away ''and didn't know already is in itself, the real horror is revealed when it's pointed out that Christian Kate was there'' makes it worse.in the apartment, too, but '''didn't know''' what was going on.
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* ''Majority'' of Christian Grey's behavior is nightmare fuel because it's textbook Stalking.
** Chapter 12 of ''50 Shades'', he receives an e-Mail from Anastasia, in which she (unbeknownst to him, jokingly) said she was not interested in getting into a BDSM-relationship with him. Christian proceeds to ''break into her home and have sex with her against her will''. The fact that Anastasia's roommate, Kate, was only a room or two away ''and didn't know that Christian was there'' makes it worse.
* In ''Darker'', Christian is left alone with his ex-submissive and stalker Leila, who had [[HeroicBSOD broken down]]. He admits that he gave her a bath. To a woman who was emotionally dependent on him and who was unresponsive to other people. And whom he then had carted off to a mental institution.

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