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* DesignStudentsOrgasm: The cover of ''Ghosteen''.



** The second disc of ''Ghosteen'' includes the TitleTrack (12:11) and "Hollywood" (14:12).



** ''Skeleton Tree'' transformed in the middle of recording into an entire Grief Album after Nick's teenage son Arthur died in a rock-climbing accident.

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** ''Skeleton Tree'' transformed in the middle of recording into an entire Grief Album after Nick's teenage son Arthur died in a rock-climbing accident. ''Ghosteen'', inspired from the beginning by the accident, is this as well.



** And happened again with Skeleton Tree, which is more electronic and baroque than previous albums.

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** And happened again with Skeleton Tree, ''Skeleton Tree'', which is more electronic and baroque than previous albums.albums. This style continues in ''Ghosteen'', but even more ambient and ethereal.



* OlderThanTheyLook: Would you believe that this dude is sixty-one as of 2018?

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* OlderThanTheyLook: Would you believe that this dude is sixty-one sixty-two as of 2018?2019?


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** The colourful and fairy-like cover for ''Ghosteen'' contrasts sharply with the [[TearJerker Tear Jerking]] lyrics.


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* SpiritualSuccessor: ''Push the Sky Away'', ''Skeleton Tree'' and ''Ghosteen'' make up a Spiritual Trilogy of albums.


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** "Fireflies", off ''Ghosteen'', finally plays the trope straight.
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->''"And the mercy seat is burning\\
And I think my head is glowing\\
And in a way I'm hoping\\
To be done with all this weighing up of truth.\\
An eye for an eye\\
And a tooth for a tooth\\
And I've got nothing left to lose\\
And I'm not afraid to die."''
-->--"The Mercy Seat"

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* ConceptAlbum: ''Henry's Dream'', ''Music/MurderBallads'', ''Dig Lazarus Dig!!!'' and ''The Lyre of Orpheus''

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* ConceptAlbum: ''Henry's Dream'', ''Music/MurderBallads'', ''Dig Lazarus Dig!!!'' and Dig!!!'', ''The Lyre of Orpheus''Orpheus'', and ''Ghosteen''.



* DistinctDoubleAlbum: ''Abbatoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus.'' The former CD was harder-edged and the latter was notably softer and more melancholy.

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* DistinctDoubleAlbum: DistinctDoubleAlbum:
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''Abbatoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus.'' The former CD was harder-edged and the latter was notably softer and more melancholy.melancholy.
** The first disc of ''Ghosteen'' is eight short songs, while its second disc is two long songs linked by a spoken word piece. The album premiere referred to the discs as respectively being "the children and their parents".



* NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly: Combines American folk music with gothic post-punk and, recently, blues-influenced rock and roll.

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* NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly: Combines American folk music with gothic post-punk and, recently, blues-influenced rock and roll. His output in TheNewTens has made a hard turn into ambient and electronic music.


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** ''Ghosteen'' opens with "Spinning Song".
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* ''Ghosteen'' (2019)
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: The dark, grief-stricken album ''Skeleton Tree'' ends with the TitleTrack, an uplifting ballad that closes the album with the words "It's alright now".

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: The dark, grief-stricken album ''Skeleton Tree'' ends with the TitleTrack, an uplifting ballad that closes the album with the words "It's alright now".
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* LetsDuet: Many, including Music/PJHarvey, Music/KylieMinogue, Blixa Bargeld, [[Music/ThePogues Shane [=MacGowan=]]] and Chris Bailey. Cave also sang with Alan Vega of Suicide during a special live performance of Grinderman; at another Grinderman show, he was joined by Music/HenryRollins and [[Music/DeadKennedys Jello Biafra]].

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* LetsDuet: Many, including Music/PJHarvey, Music/KylieMinogue, [[Music/EinsturzendeNeubauten Blixa Bargeld, Bargeld]], [[Music/ThePogues Shane [=MacGowan=]]] and Chris Bailey. Cave also sang with Alan Vega of Suicide during a special live performance of Grinderman; at another Grinderman show, he was joined by Music/HenryRollins and [[Music/DeadKennedys Jello Biafra]].
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* OlderThanTheyLook: Would you believe that this dude is sixty-one as of 2018?
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And before you ask, [[OlderThanTheyLook he's sixty-one]], by the way.

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* RevolvingDoorBand: Members have changed almost yearly, album-to-album. As of now only Cave is the remaining original member of their lineup when they recorded ''From Her To Eternity.''

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* RevolvingDoorBand: Members have changed almost yearly, album-to-album. As of now 2017 only Cave is the remaining original member of their lineup when they recorded ''From Her To Eternity.''



** "The Weeping Song," "The Ship Song," "The Train Song," "The Hammer Song," "The Witness Song,"

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** "The Weeping Song," "The Ship Song," "The Train Song," "The Hammer Song," "The Witness Song," Song."



* StepUpToTheMicrophone: Blixa Bargeld shares lead vocals with Nick on "The Weeping Song." Conway Savage sings lead on B-side "The Willow Garden."



* VillainSong / TheVillainSucksSong: In "Up Jumped The Devil" the narrator literally states "He was doomed to play the villain's part" as he describes his fleeing to Mexico from justice and the devil himself. Cave also covered "Mack the Knife" for a Music/KurtWeill tribute album, which is a classic case of the latter trope. Then there' "Stagger Lee" which is probably one of the most brutal songs ever written.

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* VillainSong / TheVillainSucksSong: In "Up Jumped The Devil" the narrator literally states "He "he was doomed to play the villain's part" as he describes his fleeing to Mexico from justice and the devil himself. Cave also covered "Mack the Knife" for a Music/KurtWeill tribute album, which is a classic case of the latter trope. Then there' there's "Stagger Lee" which is probably one of the most brutal songs ever written.
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* MinimalistCoverArt: ''Skeleton Tree'' simply has the band and album names in stark green text on a completely black background.

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* MinimalistCoverArt: MinimalisticCoverArt: ''Skeleton Tree'' simply has the band and album names in stark green text on a completely black background.



* SillyLoveSongs: Unsurprisingly few as most songs about love by the Bad Seeds are actually Anti Love Songs. "Love Letter" and "Babe, You Turn Me On" are a couple of the silly variety.

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* SillyLoveSongs: Unsurprisingly few as most songs about love by the Bad Seeds are actually Anti {{Anti Love Songs.Song}}s. "Love Letter" and "Babe, You Turn Me On" are a couple of the silly variety.

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* BadassBaritone: One of the best examples in rock.



* CorruptHick: A plethora of characters in "And The Ass Saw The Angel."

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* CorruptHick: A plethora of characters in "And ''And The Ass Saw The Angel."''



* EarnYourHappyEnding: The dark, grief-stricken album ''Skeleton Tree'' ends with the TitleTrack, an uplifting ballad that closes the album with the words "It's alright now".



* MagicMusic: The effects of "The Lyre of Orpheus"

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* MagicMusic: The effects of "The Lyre of Orpheus"Orpheus".
* MinimalistCoverArt: ''Skeleton Tree'' simply has the band and album names in stark green text on a completely black background.



* {{Rockumentary}}: Two in quick succession: ''20,000 Days On Earth'' (2014) and ''One More Time With Feeling'' (2016)

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* {{Rockumentary}}: Two in quick succession: ''20,000 Days On Earth'' (2014) and ''One More Time With Feeling'' (2016)(2016).


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* SpokenWordInMusic: His vocal delivery sometimes verges on this, especially on the song "Jesus Alone" on ''Skeleton Tree''.

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!! Albums !!Discography:

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The Birthday Party
* ''Door, Door'' (1979) only album released under The Boys Next Door name
* ''Hee Haw'' EP (1979)
* ''The Birthday Party'' (1980)
* ''Prayers on Fire'' (1981)
* ''Drunk on the Pope's Blood/The Agony Is the Ecstacy'' EP (1982) with Lydia Lunch
* ''Junkyard'' (1982)

with Nick Cave & The Back Seeds

* ''From Her to Eternity'' (1984)
* ''The Firstborn Is Dead'' (1985)
* ''Kicking Against the Pricks'' (1986)
* ''Your Funeral... My Trial'' (1986)
* ''Tender Prey'' (1988)
* ''The Good Son'' (1990)
* ''Henry's Dream'' (1992)



* ''The Boatman's Call'' (1997)
* ''No More Shall We Part'' (2001)
* ''Nocturama'' (2003)
* ''Abattoir Blues[=/=]The Lyre of Orpheus'' (2004)
* ''Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!'' (2008)
* ''Push the Sky Away'' (2013)
* ''Skeleton Tree'' (2016)

with Grinderman
* ''Grinderman'' (2007)
* ''Grinderman 2'' (2010)



* GothRock: They're a tricky aversion. The Bad Seed's music is gothic in terms of using imagery inspired by the time period of the "gothic revival" in America, due to Cave's fascination with American history, the old west and the deep south. The genre of gothic ''music'' was heavily influenced by both Music/TheBirthdayParty and the Bad Seeds even though they existed before the term "goth" had any foothold as a subculture. The result is that the Bad Seeds get incorrectly attached to the gothic rock genre along with bands that identify as "goth bands" in spite of the fact they literally ''do'' play what you would call "gothic revival-influenced rock."

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* GothRock: They're a tricky aversion. The Bad Seed's Seeds' music is gothic in terms of using imagery inspired by the time period of the "gothic revival" in America, due to Cave's fascination with American history, the old west and the deep south. The genre of gothic ''music'' was heavily influenced by both Music/TheBirthdayParty and the Bad Seeds even though they existed before the term "goth" had any foothold as a subculture. The result is that the Bad Seeds get incorrectly attached to the gothic rock genre along with bands that identify as "goth bands" in spite of the fact they literally ''do'' play what you would call "gothic revival-influenced rock."
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* GeniusBonus: Several of the verses in "More News from Nowhere" are direct references to ''Literature/TheOdyssey''.
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** And in a spectacular case of FunnyAneurysmMoment, ''Skeleton Tree'' is an entire Grief Album after Nick's teenage son Arthur died in a rock-climbing accident.

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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: The album ''[[MurderBallad Murder Ballads]].''

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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: The album ''[[MurderBallad Murder Ballads]].''Ballads]]'' is composed entirely of tales about killers.[[note]]This is using the original definition of a ballad, which is "a song that tells a story."[[/note]]
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Nick Cave is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found ''Nick Cave and the Cavemen,'' who fairly quickly re-named themselves to ''Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.'' In recent years he's formed a third band, ''Grinderman,'' [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforward rock music.]]

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Nick Nicholas Edward Cave (born 22 September 1957) is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found ''Nick Cave and the Cavemen,'' who fairly quickly re-named themselves to ''Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.'' In recent years he's formed a third band, ''Grinderman,'' [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforward rock music.]]
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* SceneryDissonance: "Where the Wild Roses Grow" is a murder ballad set in a very pretty environment. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDpnjE1LUvE The video]] is a nice supplement.
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*** Surprisingly averted in "Jack The Ripper." In spite of its namesake, the song has nothing to do with [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper the infamous murderer]].

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*** ** Surprisingly averted in "Jack The Ripper." In spite of its namesake, the song has nothing to do with [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper the infamous murderer]].
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He is also the author of the novels: ''And the Ass Saw the Angel'' and ''The Death of Bunny Munro,'' as well as the script for ''Film/TheProposition,'' for which he and bandmate Warren Ellis (no, not ''that'' Creator/WarrenEllis) also composed the soundtrack. And he's occasionally acted, most notably in ''Film/TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord'' (he appears as a musician, playing the folk song "UsefulNotes/JesseJames"), which he and Ellis again scored. The film version of ''Film/TheRoad'' was scored by him and Ellis, and directed by ''John Hillcoat,'' who also did ''The Proposition.''

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He is also the author of the novels: ''And the Ass Saw the Angel'' and ''The Death of Bunny Munro,'' as well as the script for ''Film/TheProposition,'' for which he and bandmate Warren Ellis (no, not ''that'' Creator/WarrenEllis) also composed the soundtrack. And he's occasionally acted, most notably in ''Film/WingsOfDesire'' (where he appears AsHimself in concert) and ''Film/TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord'' (he appears as a musician, playing the folk song "UsefulNotes/JesseJames"), which he and Ellis again scored. The film version of ''Film/TheRoad'' was scored by him and Ellis, and directed by ''John Hillcoat,'' who also did ''The Proposition.''
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'''Nick Cave''' is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found ''Nick Cave and the Cavemen,'' who fairly quickly re-named themselves to ''Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.'' In recent years he's formed a third band, ''Grinderman,'' [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforward rock music.]]

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'''Nick Cave''' Nick Cave is an internationally renowned musician from the North East of Victoria, UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}. He started out in Music/TheBirthdayParty, a rather weird PostPunk band who would become a big influence on GothRock. In the middle of TheEighties went on to found ''Nick Cave and the Cavemen,'' who fairly quickly re-named themselves to ''Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.'' In recent years he's formed a third band, ''Grinderman,'' [[SomethingCompletelyDifferent who very unusually for him]] play rather [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth straightforward rock music.]]
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* BadassMustache / BadassBeard: With Grinderman came a mustache to the formerly clean-shaven Cave. Many of the members of Grinderman and a few of the Bad Seeds sport {{Badass}} facial hair such as Warren Ellis' wild-man grizzly beard.

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* BadassMustache / BadassBeard: With Grinderman came a mustache to the formerly clean-shaven Cave. Many of the members of Grinderman and a few of the Bad Seeds sport {{Badass}} badass facial hair such as Warren Ellis' wild-man grizzly beard.
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** Nick Cave loves this trope, with plenty of songs ending in around the seven to nine minute mark: Saint Huck (7:22), A Box for Black Paul (9:42), Tupelo (7:18), Knockin' on Joe (7:38), The Carny (8:02), The Mercy Seat (7:19), O'Malley's Bar (14:28), Hallelujah (7:48), Oh My Lord (7:30), Babe, I'm on Fire (14:45), More News from Nowhere (7:58), Higgs Boson Blues (7:51). Plenty of tracks that breach the five and six minute mark as well.
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** His friend Music/HenryRollins noted in his book ''Get In The Van'' that Cave in the early 90s tended to subvert this trope by always wearing the ''same'' black suit, so that he looked cool from a distance, but [[HumansAreSmelly when you got up close...]]

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** His friend Music/HenryRollins noted in his book ''Get In The Van'' that Cave in the early 90s tended to subvert this trope by always wearing the ''same'' black suit, so that he looked cool from a distance, but [[HumansAreSmelly [[ThePigpen when you got up close...]]
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** His friend Music/HenryRollins noted in his book ''Get In The Van'' that Cave in the early 90s tended to subvert this trope by always wearing the ''same'' black suit, so that he looked cool from a distance, but [[HumansAreSmelly when you got up close...]]
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** And happened again with Skeleton Tree, which is more electronic and baroque than previous albums.
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** And in a spectacular case of FunnyAneurysmMoment, ''Skeleton Tree'' is an entire Grief Album after Nick's teenage son Arthur died in a rock-climbing accident.


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* {{Rockumentary}}: Two in quick succession: ''20,000 Days On Earth'' (2014) and ''One More Time With Feeling'' (2016)
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** One album of his, a recorded lecture titled "The Secret Life Of The Love Song", features him musing on how many alleged songs of love are actually songs of hate. He proceeds to illustrate a genuine lovesong he found among the dross of pop by playing Music/KylieMinogue's "Better The Devil You Know"; him, a piano, and a Stock-Aitken-Waterman pop ditty makes for a ''profoundly'' disturbing combination, since - for once - you pay attention to the lyrics.

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** One album of his, a recorded lecture titled titled: "The Secret Life Of The of the Love Song", Song," features him musing on how many alleged songs of love are actually songs of hate. He proceeds to illustrate a genuine lovesong love song he found among the dross of pop by playing Music/KylieMinogue's "Better The Devil You Know"; him, a piano, and a Stock-Aitken-Waterman pop ditty makes for a ''profoundly'' disturbing combination, since - for once - you pay attention to the lyrics.

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* GrievousBottleyHarm: Cave once punched a thrown pint glass, breaking it, and kept on playing without any sign of pain. Of course, that did happen at the Hacienda.


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* BlackWidow: In "Henry Lee" the titular character runs afoul of a rather jealous one.



* BlackWidow: In "Henry Lee" the titular character runs afoul of a rather jealous one.

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He is also the author of the novels ''And The Ass Saw The Angel'' and ''The Death Of Bunny Munro'', as well as the script for ''Film/TheProposition'', for which he and bandmate Warren Ellis (no, not ''that'' Creator/WarrenEllis) also composed the soundtrack. And he's occasionally acted, most notably in ''Film/TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord'' (he appears as a musician, playing the folk song "UsefulNotes/JesseJames"), which he and Ellis again scored. The film version of ''Film/TheRoad'' was scored by him and Ellis, and directed by John Hillcoat, who also did ''Film/TheProposition''.

His songs range from gentle love songs, to angsty songs of pain, to full-on [[MurderBallad murder ballads]]; he wrote a whole album of the latter. He's also known for deeply held, though unconventional, religious views; his songs and novels are rife with Christian symbolism, though he denies in recent interviews that he believes in a personal or interventionist God (so...Deist, maybe? Post-theist?).

Compare Music/TomWaits, who has a somewhat similar style, and who is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Seeds#Volume_two confirmed]] to be an influence on Cave.

Albums with their own TV Tropes page:

* ''Music/LetLoveIn'' (1994)
* ''Music/MurderBallads'' (1996)

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He is also the author of the novels novels: ''And The the Ass Saw The the Angel'' and ''The Death Of of Bunny Munro'', Munro,'' as well as the script for ''Film/TheProposition'', ''Film/TheProposition,'' for which he and bandmate Warren Ellis (no, not ''that'' Creator/WarrenEllis) also composed the soundtrack. And he's occasionally acted, most notably in ''Film/TheAssassinationOfJesseJamesByTheCowardRobertFord'' (he appears as a musician, playing the folk song "UsefulNotes/JesseJames"), which he and Ellis again scored. The film version of ''Film/TheRoad'' was scored by him and Ellis, and directed by John Hillcoat, ''John Hillcoat,'' who also did ''Film/TheProposition''.

''The Proposition.''

His songs range from gentle love songs, to angsty songs of pain, to full-on [[MurderBallad murder ballads]]; he wrote a whole album of the latter. He's also known for deeply held, though unconventional, religious views; his songs and novels are rife with Christian symbolism, though he denies in recent interviews that he believes in a personal or interventionist God (so...(So... Deist, maybe? Post-theist?).

Compare Music/TomWaits, who has a somewhat similar style, and who is [[http://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Seeds#Volume_two confirmed]] to be an influence on Cave.

Albums with their own TV Tropes page:

* ''Music/LetLoveIn'' (1994)
* ''Music/MurderBallads'' (1996)
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!!He provides examples of:

* AntiLoveSong: A number of songs by both The Birthday Party and the Bad Seeds, including "Where the Wild Roses Grow," "Do You Love Me?" parts 1 and 2 and "UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper." The love songs on ''The Boatman's Call'' are a bit too stark and minimalist to be considered "silly" love songs and would easily qualify.

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!! Albums with their own TV Tropes page:

* ''Music/LetLoveIn'' (1994)
* ''Music/MurderBallads'' (1996)
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* AntiLoveSong: A number of songs by both The Birthday Party Music/TheBirthdayParty and the Bad Seeds, ''Bad Seeds,'' including "Where the Wild Roses Grow," "Do You Love Me?" parts 1 and 2 and "UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper." The love songs on ''The Boatman's Call'' are a bit too stark and minimalist to be considered "silly" love songs and would easily qualify.

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