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** "[[Recap/StarTrekLowerDecksS4E10OldFriendsNewPlanets Old Friends, New Planets]]": Locarno crosses it when he tries to murder Mariner in cold blood. Before then, his worst crimes were kidnapping and manslaughter, and Mariner thought he had the potential for a HeelFaceTurn. It's this that cements Locarno as irredeemable.

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** The last episode has the Female Changeling deal with Cardassian saboteurs by nuking Lakarian City; the resulting death toll is two million. When the Cardassian fleet learns of this, they perform a HeelFaceTurn and begin firing on the Dominion and Breen ships. How does the Female Changeling react to this?
--->'''Female Changeling''': I want the Cardassians exterminated.\\
'''Weyoun''': Which ones?\\
'''Female Changeling''': All of them. The entire population.\\
'''Weyoun''': That may... take some time.\\
'''Female Changeling''': Then I suggest you begin at once.
** The Dominion is revealed to have crossed this line long ago in the Season 4 episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E24TheQuickening}} The Quickening]]", when they infected an entire planet's population with a slow acting but ultimately lethal bioweapon, purely to discourage other worlds from resisting. This was ''after'' devastating the planet with conventional weapons.

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** The last episode has the Female Changeling deal In "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS02E15Paradise Paradise]]", Alixus crosses it with Cardassian saboteurs by nuking Lakarian City; the resulting death toll is two million. When reveal that a citizen was locked in a small metal box, without clothes and probably without food or water, for a full day, as punishment for stealing a candle. Any suspicions about the Cardassian fleet learns of this, they perform a HeelFaceTurn colony and begin firing Alixus vanish in an instant, for it's become clear she is an outright villain. And that's before it's revealed that she's the reason that the colonists are stranded on the Dominion planet, just to be guinea pigs in her social experiment.
** Admiral Leyton spends most of "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E11Homefront Homefront]]"/"[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E12ParadiseLost Paradise Lost]]" as a WellIntentionedExtremist who truly believes he's doing a good thing with his conspiracy to take over Earth
and Breen ships. How does put it under martial law. He even looks sorry when he frames his old protege, Ben Sisko, and has him put in a holding cell. [[spoiler:Until three-quarters through the Female Changeling react story, the station captures another conspirator and is bringing him to this?
--->'''Female Changeling''': I want
Earth on the ''Defiant'' to testify. Leyton tells his right-hand-woman that the ship was taken over by Changelings and needs to be destroyed]].
** Even with the past atrocities of the Cardassians, nothing justifies Eddington stealing the replicators in "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E22ForTheCause For the Cause]]". He treats the simple act of the Federation aiding
the Cardassians exterminated.\\
'''Weyoun''': Which ones?\\
'''Female Changeling''': All
after a war as amoral, as though being born a Cardassian is of them. The entire population.\\
'''Weyoun''': That may... take some time.\\
'''Female Changeling''': Then I suggest you begin at once.
itself a crime.
** The Dominion is revealed to have crossed this line long ago in the Season 4 episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E24TheQuickening}} "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E24TheQuickening The Quickening]]", when they infected an entire planet's population with a slow acting but ultimately lethal bioweapon, purely to discourage other worlds from resisting. This was ''after'' devastating the planet with conventional weapons.weapons.
** In "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E25BodyParts Body Parts]]", Liquidator Brunt manipulates Quark into signing a contract that requires him to die to fulfill, or else live in disgrace and destitution. He even torments Quark about defiling his remains after he's dead. Quark even resorts to taking out a hit on himself in an effort to live up to his principles [[spoiler:before, thankfully, he has an epiphany and stands up to Brunt]].



** Admiral Leyton spends most of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E11Homefront}} Homefront]] / [[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E12ParadiseLost}} Paradise Lost]]" as a WellIntentionedExtremist who truly believes he's doing a good thing with his conspiracy to take over Earth and put it under martial law. He even looks sorry when he frames his old protege, Ben Sisko, and has him put in a holding cell. [[spoiler:Until three-quarters through the story, the station captures another conspirator and is bringing him to Earth on the ''Defiant'' to testify. Leyton tells his right-hand-woman that the ship was taken over by Changelings and needs to be destroyed]].
** Liquidator Brunt manipulates Quark into signing a contract that requires him to die to fulfill, or else live in disgrace and destitution. He even torments Quark about defiling his remains after he's dead. Quark even resorts to taking out a hit on himself in an effort to live up to his principles [[spoiler:before, thankfully, he has an epiphany and stands up to Brunt]].
** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS02E15Paradise Paradise]]": Alixus crosses it with the reveal that a citizen was locked in a small metal box, without clothes and probably without food or water, for a full day, as punishment for stealing a candle. Any suspicions about the colony and Alixus vanish in an instant, for it's become clear she is an outright villain. And that's before it's revealed that she's the reason that the colonists are stranded on the planet, just to be guinea pigs in her social experiment.
** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E22ForTheCause For The Cause]]": Even with the past atrocities of the Cardassians, nothing justifies Eddington stealing the replicators. He treats the simple act of the Federation aiding the Cardassians after a war as amoral, as though being born a Cardassian is of itself a crime.

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** Admiral Leyton spends most of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E11Homefront}} Homefront]] / [[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E12ParadiseLost}} Paradise Lost]]" as a WellIntentionedExtremist who truly believes he's doing a good thing [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS07E25E26WhatYouLeaveBehind The last episode]] has the Female Changeling deal with his conspiracy to take over Earth Cardassian saboteurs by nuking Lakarian City; the resulting death toll is two million. When the Cardassian fleet learns of this, they perform a HeelFaceTurn and put it under martial law. He even looks sorry when he frames his old protege, Ben Sisko, and has him put in a holding cell. [[spoiler:Until three-quarters through the story, the station captures another conspirator and is bringing him to Earth begin firing on the ''Defiant'' to testify. Leyton tells his right-hand-woman that Dominion and Breen ships. How does the ship was taken over by Changelings and needs Female Changeling react to be destroyed]].
** Liquidator Brunt manipulates Quark into signing a contract that requires him to die to fulfill, or else live in disgrace and destitution. He even torments Quark about defiling his remains after he's dead. Quark even resorts to taking out a hit on himself in an effort to live up to his principles [[spoiler:before, thankfully, he has an epiphany and stands up to Brunt]].
** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS02E15Paradise Paradise]]": Alixus crosses it with the reveal that a citizen was locked in a small metal box, without clothes and probably without food or water, for a full day, as punishment for stealing a candle. Any suspicions about the colony and Alixus vanish in an instant, for it's become clear she is an outright villain. And that's before it's revealed that she's the reason that the colonists are stranded on the planet, just to be guinea pigs in her social experiment.
** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E22ForTheCause For The Cause]]": Even with the past atrocities of the Cardassians, nothing justifies Eddington stealing the replicators. He treats the simple act of the Federation aiding
this?
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the Cardassians after a war as amoral, as though being born a Cardassian is exterminated.\\
'''Weyoun:''' Which ones?\\
'''Female Changeling:''' All
of itself a crime.them. The entire population.\\
'''Weyoun:''' That may... take some time.\\
'''Female Changeling:''' Then I suggest you begin at once.
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** Gul Dukat was a mad, genocidal, sexually-ravenous dictator to begin with... and then he allied with the Dominion just to get back into a position of power, effectively setting off the chain of events that got his own planet razed to the ground.

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** [[Characters/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineGulDukat Gul Dukat Dukat]] was a mad, genocidal, sexually-ravenous dictator to begin with... and then he allied with the Dominion just to get back into a position of power, effectively setting off the chain of events that got his own planet razed to the ground.
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** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]": Part of the reason Nick Locarno was replaced with Tom Paris for ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' is because the writers, and Creator/RobertDuncanMcNeill, felt Locarno had crossed this. It's not hard to see where they're coming from; Locarno pressured the rest of Nova Squadron into performing a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that was banned by Starfleet Academy because the last squad to try it were all killed, and then after a practice session went pear-shaped and got one of them killed, decided to pressure his surviving squadmates into a DeceasedFallGuyGambit. Although he does take responsibility eventually, it's only because Wesley spilled the beans after Picard confronted him over the cover-up.

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** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]": Part of the reason Nick Locarno was replaced with Tom Paris for ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' is because the writers, and Creator/RobertDuncanMcNeill, felt Locarno had crossed this. It's not hard to see where they're coming from; Locarno pressured the rest of Nova Squadron into performing a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that was banned by Starfleet Academy because the last squad to try it were all killed, and then after a practice session went pear-shaped and got one of them killed, decided to pressure his surviving squadmates into a DeceasedFallGuyGambit. Although he does take responsibility eventually, it's only because Wesley spilled the beans after Picard confronted him over the cover-up.cover-up, and he goes on to [[NeverMyFault blame the Academy faculty for the tragedy]] on the basis that they didn't let Nova Squadron practice.
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--->'''[=McNeill=]''': I think Locarno was a bad guy who pretended to be a good guy. Deep down inside, he was rotten.
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** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]": Part of the reason Nick Locarno was replaced with Tom Paris for ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', is because the writers, and Creator/RobertDuncanMcNeill, felt Locarno had crossed this. It's not hard to see where they're coming from; Locarno pressured the rest of Nova Squadron into performing a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that was banned by Starfleet Academy because the last squad to try it were all killed, and then after a practice session went pear-shaped and got one of them killed, decided to pressure his surviving squadmates into a DeceasedFallGuyGambit. Although he does take responsibility eventually, it's only because Wesley spilled the beans after Picard confronted him over the cover-up.

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** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]": Part of the reason Nick Locarno was replaced with Tom Paris for ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' is because the writers, and Creator/RobertDuncanMcNeill, felt Locarno had crossed this. It's not hard to see where they're coming from; Locarno pressured the rest of Nova Squadron into performing a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that was banned by Starfleet Academy because the last squad to try it were all killed, and then after a practice session went pear-shaped and got one of them killed, decided to pressure his surviving squadmates into a DeceasedFallGuyGambit. Although he does take responsibility eventually, it's only because Wesley spilled the beans after Picard confronted him over the cover-up.
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** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]": The reason Creator/RobertDuncanMcNeill refused to reprise his role as Nick Locarno for ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', instead playing new character Tom Paris, is because he felt Locarno had crossed this. It's not hard to see where [=McNeill=] was coming from; Locarno pressured the rest of Nova Squadron into performing a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that was banned by Starfleet Academy because the last squad to try it were all killed, and then after a practice session went pear-shaped and got one of them killed, decided to pressure his surviving squadmates into a DeceasedFallGuyGambit. Although he does take responsibility eventually, it's only because Wesley spilled the beans after Picard confronted him over the cover-up.

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** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]": The Part of the reason Creator/RobertDuncanMcNeill refused to reprise his role as Nick Locarno was replaced with Tom Paris for ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', instead playing new character Tom Paris, is because he the writers, and Creator/RobertDuncanMcNeill, felt Locarno had crossed this. It's not hard to see where [=McNeill=] was they're coming from; Locarno pressured the rest of Nova Squadron into performing a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that was banned by Starfleet Academy because the last squad to try it were all killed, and then after a practice session went pear-shaped and got one of them killed, decided to pressure his surviving squadmates into a DeceasedFallGuyGambit. Although he does take responsibility eventually, it's only because Wesley spilled the beans after Picard confronted him over the cover-up.
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** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]": The reason Creator/RobertDuncanMcNeill refused to reprise his role as Nick Locarno for ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', instead playing new character Tom Paris, is because he felt Locarno had crossed this. It's not hard to see where [=McNeill=] was coming from; Locarno pressured the rest of Nova Squadron into performing a DangerousForbiddenTechnique that was banned by Starfleet Academy because the last squad to try it were all killed, and then after a practice session went pear-shaped and got one of them killed, decided to pressure his surviving squadmates into a DeceasedFallGuyGambit. Although he does take responsibility eventually, it's only because Wesley spilled the beans after Picard confronted him over the cover-up.
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** "[[Recap/StarTrekLowerDecksS4E02IHaveNoBonesYetIMustFlee I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee ]]": The displayed humans cross it by knowingly unleashing a KillerRabbit onto the station in the hopes that it'll kill Narj and they'll be able to take over the menagerie. In addition to Narj, their actions get the Pyrithian swamp gobblers killed and endanger the ''Cerritos'' away team.

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** "[[Recap/StarTrekLowerDecksS4E02IHaveNoBonesYetIMustFlee I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee ]]": Flee]]": The displayed humans cross it by knowingly unleashing a KillerRabbit onto the station in the hopes that it'll kill Narj and they'll be able to take over the menagerie. In addition to Narj, their actions get the Pyrithian swamp gobblers killed and endanger the ''Cerritos'' away team.

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** In the same epsode, the ''Aledo'' crosses it at transwarp when it attacks the station and gets its sister ships to join in.

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** In the same epsode, episode, the ''Aledo'' crosses it at transwarp when it attacks the station and gets its sister ships to join in.in.
** "[[Recap/StarTrekLowerDecksS4E02IHaveNoBonesYetIMustFlee I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee ]]": The displayed humans cross it by knowingly unleashing a KillerRabbit onto the station in the hopes that it'll kill Narj and they'll be able to take over the menagerie. In addition to Narj, their actions get the Pyrithian swamp gobblers killed and endanger the ''Cerritos'' away team.
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** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS02E15Paradise Paradise]]": Alixus crosses it with the reveal that a citizen was locked in a small metal box, without clothes and probably without food or water, for a full day, as punishment for stealing a candle. Any suspicions about the colony and Alixus vanish in an instant, for it's become clear she is an outright villain.

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** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS02E15Paradise Paradise]]": Alixus crosses it with the reveal that a citizen was locked in a small metal box, without clothes and probably without food or water, for a full day, as punishment for stealing a candle. Any suspicions about the colony and Alixus vanish in an instant, for it's become clear she is an outright villain. And that's before it's revealed that she's the reason that the colonists are stranded on the planet, just to be guinea pigs in her social experiment.
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** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E24TheQuickening The Quickening]]": If you didn't want Sisko to saddle up in the ''Defiant'' and wipe out every last Founder in the galaxy ''before'' this episode, then you certainly do ''after'' seeing what they've done to the people of this planet.
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->''"He can be charming. He can be generous. He can do the right thing. All of that somehow makes his 'evil' actions all the more despicable, because we know that there was the potential in there for him to be a better person. But sometimes the clichés are true: [[NiceToTheWaiter Hitler loved his dog.]] No human being (and by extension, no Cardassian) is one hundred percent pure evil. But there is a 'critical mass', if you will, where the dark deeds attributed to one person become so overwhelming that they swamp all the redeeming characteristics."''

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->''"He can be charming. He can be generous. He can do the right thing. All of that somehow makes his 'evil' actions all the more despicable, because we know that there was the potential in there for him to be a better person. But sometimes the clichés are true: [[NiceToTheWaiter Hitler loved his dog.]] No ->''"No human being (and by extension, no Cardassian) is one hundred percent pure evil. But there is a 'critical mass', if you will, where the dark deeds attributed to one person become so overwhelming that they swamp all the redeeming characteristics."''

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* ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': The aliens in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E7ScientificMethod}} Scientific Method]]" come across as an entire civilization who crossed the MoralEventHorizon long ago and have just kept on going. They routinely do medical experiments on sentient creatures, mutilating, torturing them, and even killing them if they feel it will benefit their medical research to do so. They feel completely justified in their actions and not only do they feel no remorse or regret over their actions, they feel that what they do is noble and beneficial. Genetically deforming, maiming and killing the crew of Voyager is the NightmareFuel evidence of their crimes and ''that'' is only the tip of the iceberg. What is really terrifying is that their flimsy justifications allow them to murder entire societies with impunity and go on torturing and killing as many sentient creatures as they feel is necessary for their "research."

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* ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': The aliens in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E7ScientificMethod}} "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E7ScientificMethod Scientific Method]]" come across as an entire civilization who crossed the MoralEventHorizon long ago and have just kept on going. They routinely do medical experiments on sentient creatures, mutilating, torturing them, and even killing them if they feel it will benefit their medical research to do so. They feel completely justified in their actions and not only do they feel no remorse or regret over their actions, they feel that what they do is noble and beneficial. Genetically deforming, maiming and killing the crew of Voyager is the NightmareFuel evidence of their crimes and ''that'' is only the tip of the iceberg. What is really terrifying is that their flimsy justifications allow them to murder entire societies with impunity and go on torturing and killing as many sentient creatures as they feel is necessary for their "research."



* ''Literature/StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch'':
** [[spoiler:Section 31 deciding to let Maltuvis take over Sauria in the name of realpolitik.]]
** [[spoiler:Later on, their using the anti-Ware code to annihilate the tech, dooming dozens of civilizations that need the tech just to have civilization.]]

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''Literature/StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch'': [[spoiler:Section 31 deciding to let Maltuvis take over Sauria in the name of realpolitik.]]
** [[spoiler:Later on, their using the anti-Ware code to annihilate the tech, dooming dozens of civilizations that need the tech just to have civilization.]]



** The biggest person who crosses this line? General Hakeev of the Tal Shiar. What did he do? Oh, nothing major, just ''[[Film/StarTrek2009 be the reason that Romulus and Remus are now asteroid fields]]''. Later moments include kidnapping innocent Romulans and Remans and performing experiments with ''Borg tech'' on them and capturing random people, including your player, and pitting them in Colosseum matches. Oh, and the reason he does this? [[spoiler:Because he's working with the Iconians, a vicious race of aliens that are ready to take back the galaxy. Oh, and they crossed the line, too, by being the ones who gave Hakeev the means to blow up the planets.]]

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** The biggest person who crosses this line? General Hakeev of the Tal Shiar. What did he do? Oh, nothing major, just ''[[Film/StarTrek2009 be the reason that Romulus and Remus are now asteroid fields]]''. Later moments include kidnapping innocent Romulans and Remans and performing experiments with ''Borg tech'' on them and capturing random people, including your player, and pitting them in Colosseum matches. Oh, and the reason he does this? [[spoiler:Because he's working with the Iconians, a vicious race of aliens that are ready to take back the galaxy. Oh, and they crossed the line, too, by being the ones who gave Hakeev the means to blow up the planets.]]
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Can only be crossed once, and he had seeming redeeming/mitigating moments after his prior actions so this is the one that changes that. The last part doesn't make sense as written.


** John Harrison[[spoiler:/Khan]] has several possible MEH's:
** [[spoiler:Manipulating Thomas Harewood into blowing up a Starfleet institution by curing his daughter's condition.]]
** [[spoiler:Attacking a gathering of Starfleet officers, killing Admiral Pike in the process.]]
** [[spoiler:Betraying Kirk, then attempting to murder the ''Enterprise'' crew after his people were returned to him ([[OutGambitted or so he thought]]), at a point where none of the crew posed any threat to him.]]
** [[spoiler:Setting the fatally damaged ''Vengeance'' on a collision course with San Francisco after believing that his crew had been killed.]]
* In ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', Krall crosses it during his attack on Yorktown Station; not only intent on killing everyone inside, [[spoiler: but to effectively cripple the diplomatic element of the Federation in [[UngratefulBastard for being assigned given command of the Franklin]] [[DisproportionateRetribution and having his faction of Frontier absorbed into Starfleet]]]].

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** John Harrison[[spoiler:/Khan]] has several possible MEH's:
** [[spoiler:Manipulating Thomas Harewood into blowing up a Starfleet institution
crossed it by curing [[spoiler:betraying Kirk, then attempting to murder the ''Enterprise'' crew after his daughter's condition.people were returned to him ([[OutGambitted or so he thought]]), at a point where none of the crew posed any threat to him.]]
** [[spoiler:Attacking a gathering of Starfleet officers, killing Admiral Pike in the process.]]
** [[spoiler:Betraying Kirk, then attempting to murder the ''Enterprise'' crew after his people were returned to him ([[OutGambitted or so he thought]]), at a point where none of the crew posed any threat to him.]]
** [[spoiler:Setting the fatally damaged ''Vengeance'' on a collision course with San Francisco after believing that his crew had been killed.]]
* In ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', Krall crosses it during his attack on Yorktown Station; not only intent on killing everyone inside, [[spoiler: but to effectively cripple the diplomatic element of the Federation in [[UngratefulBastard for being assigned given command of the Franklin]] [[DisproportionateRetribution and having his faction of Frontier absorbed into Starfleet]]]].
because he didn't like it becoming peaceful]].
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* ''Literature/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineRelaunch'': After spending all of the ''Left Hand of Destiny'' duology dancing around it, Gothmara crosses it after [[spoiler: mutating her own son into a Hur'q]].
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* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'':
** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E22TheMostToys The Most Toys]]": Fajo indisputably crosses it when he shoots and kills Varria with a Varon-T disruptor. Even Fajo himself seems momentarily shaken by that act--he immediately tosses the disruptor away after firing. [[IgnoredEpiphany Unfortunately,]] [[ItGetsEasier he soon recovers]] and threatens to use the horrific weapon again. He nearly becomes an AssholeVictim as a result.
** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E25Transfigurations Transfigurations]]": If Sunad hadn't already crossed it for wanting to kill John Doe (and possibly having already killed his comrades) for supposedly being a threat, then trying to murder everyone on the ''Enterprise'' definitely puts him over the edge.
** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E2TheEnsignsOfCommand The Ensigns of Command]]": Gosheven interrupting a meeting between Data and some dissenters would just be him being a stick in the mud, until he attempts to deactivate Data by electrocuting him with a stun-rod. Not cool, Gosheven, not cool!
** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E21TheDrumhead The Drumhead]]": Picard gave Satie a chance to redeem herself, and what does she do instead? Not only does she blithely ignore his KirkSummation, but she then shames him over being {{Mind Rape}}d by the Borg. Major dick move.
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** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS02E15Paradise Paradise]]": Alixus crosses it with the reveal that a citizen was locked in a small metal box, without clothes and probably without food or water, for a full day, as punishment for stealing a candle. Any suspicions about the colony and Alixus vanish in an instant, for it's become clear she is an outright villain.
** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E22ForTheCause For The Cause]]": Even with the past atrocities of the Cardassians, nothing justifies Eddington stealing the replicators. He treats the simple act of the Federation aiding the Cardassians after a war as amoral, as though being born a Cardassian is of itself a crime.
** "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E24TheQuickening The Quickening]]": If you didn't want Sisko to saddle up in the ''Defiant'' and wipe out every last Founder in the galaxy ''before'' this episode, then you certainly do ''after'' seeing what they've done to the people of this planet.
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** Quark comes close when he agrees to help his cousin sell weapons after his investments fall through and his debt piles up. Everyone calls him out on it and he begins to fear it himself. He stops just short, betraying his partners after they try to sell weapons to a regent who plans on killing millions

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** Liquidator Brunt manipulates Quark comes close when he agrees into signing a contract that requires him to help die to fulfill, or else live in disgrace and destitution. He even torments Quark about defiling his cousin sell weapons remains after he's dead. Quark even resorts to taking out a hit on himself in an effort to live up to his investments fall through principles [[spoiler:before, thankfully, he has an epiphany and his debt piles up. Everyone calls him out on it and he begins stands up to fear it himself. He stops just short, betraying his partners after they try to sell weapons to a regent who plans on killing millionsBrunt]].

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* ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'':
** It's pretty hard to mourn [[DarkMessiah T'Kuvma]] after he initiated a battle that killed ''over eight thousand'' Starfleet personnel, and kicked off an ensuing war with the Federation, simply to further his own personal advancement -- whether or not it really was for the stated goal of unifying the Klingon Empire.
** It's all but said outright in "Choose Your Pain" that L'Rell raped Ash Tyler in exchange for sparing him from beatings, which is further detailed by Tyler's feverish flashbacks in "Into The Forest I Go". [[spoiler:The perceived rape may or may not actually be Voq's memories, but "The Wolf Inside" indicates that she ''did'' have the real Ash Tyler [[HumanResources fatally vivisected]] in order to use [[OrganTheft his organs]] to disguise Voq as Tyler, just so that Voq could infiltrate Starfleet and undermine the Federation.]]
** Voq absolutely ''plows'' past the MEH when he [[spoiler:pulls off a SplitPersonalityTakeover while disguised as Ash Tyler, subsequently [[ShootTheMedicFirst murders Dr. Culber]] when medical scans reveal the truth, and attempts to kill both his still-Klingon [[OtherMeAnnoysMe Mirror Universe counterpart]] ''and'' the prime-universe Michael Burnham]].
** Whatever sympathy [[spoiler:Mirror-Lorca]] might have had for his coup was swiftly lost when his NewEraSpeech proves him ''even worse'' than the Emperor he was planning to overthrow. Speaking of whom ...
** Emperor Georgiou herself literally ''[[ToServeMan eats aliens as a delicacy]]''. And on top of that, she reveals in "Will You Take My Hand?" that she [[spoiler:conquered the Klingon Empire in her universe by [[EarthShatteringKaboom blowing up Qo'noS with a hydro bomb]], before sending her fleet to [[SinkTheLifeboats exterminate the survivors as they tried to escape]]]]. If [[spoiler:Lorca]] knew about ''that'' and still wasn't satisfied, then either he was deeply misogynistic or ''Discovery'' saved the Terran Empire, and the aliens oppressed by the Terrans, from the lovechild of Hitler and Pol Pot.
* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'': Dolim crosses it in "The Council" by [[spoiler:fatally stabbing Degra and vowing to do the same to his wife and children as he dies]].
* ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'':
** "[[Recap/StarTrekLowerDecksS3E10TheStarsAtNight The Stars at Night]]": If erasing Rutherford's memory, trying to sabotage Freeman's career, and setting up the ''Cerritos'' to be attacked by the Breen didn't push Buenamigo over the line, he most certainly crosses it when he decides to straight-up ''murder'' Freeman and her entire crew to keep them from exposing him.
** In the same epsode, the ''Aledo'' crosses it at transwarp when it attacks the station and gets its sister ships to join in.



** Kodos the Executioner from "[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Conscience of the King]]" had murdered half the population of a colony world, picking the survivor half with [[SocialDarwinist Social Darwinism]] having convinced himself it was the only way to alleviate a famine

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** "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E13TheConscienceOfTheKing The Conscience of The King]]": Kodos the Executioner from "[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Conscience of the King]]" had murdered half the population of a colony world, picking the survivor half with [[SocialDarwinist Social Darwinism]] having convinced himself it was the only way to alleviate a faminefamine
** "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E23TheOmegaGlory The Omega Glory]]": Tracey was already tap dancing on it, but he crossed it when he killed Galloway.
** "[[Recap/StarTrekS3E24TurnaboutIntruder Turnabout Intruder]]": From Chekov's and Sulu's point of view, Lester-in-Kirk crosses the line when s/he begins to order executions.

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->''"He can be charming. He can be generous. He can do the right thing. All of that somehow makes his 'evil' actions all the more despicable, because we know that there was the potential in there for him to be a better person. But sometimes the clichés are true: [[NiceToTheWaiter Hitler loved his dog.]] No human being (and by extension, no Cardassian) is one hundred percent pure evil. But there is a 'critical mass', if you will, where the dark deeds attributed to one person become so overwhelming that they swamp all the redeeming characteristics."''
-->-- '''Ron D. Moore''' on Gul Dukat, ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''



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* In ''Literature/StarTrekATimeTo'', Prime Minister Kinchawn crosses it rather early, after he uses his illegally-acquired weapons to shoot down 10 Klingon ships in orbit of Tezwa, killing 6,000 warriors. If this didn't represent his crossing the line, his casual willingness to see millions of Tezwans killed in a Klingon counterstrike, including his own family, certainly does. What makes it worse is his apparent self-image as a WellIntentionedExtremist, when he's really DrunkWithPower. He sees his own children's death as merely a means to acquire more sympathy and thus more support and power, and seems to truly believe this is somehow reasonable.

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* In ''Literature/StarTrekATimeTo'', ''Literature/StarTrekATimeTo'': Prime Minister Kinchawn crosses it rather early, after he uses his illegally-acquired weapons (see: GovernmentConspiracy, above) to shoot down 10 Klingon ships in orbit of Tezwa, killing 6,000 warriors. If this didn't represent his crossing the line, his casual willingness to see millions of Tezwans killed in a Klingon counterstrike, including his own family, certainly does. What makes it worse is his apparent self-image as a WellIntentionedExtremist, when he's really totally DrunkWithPower. He sees his own children's death as merely a means to acquire more sympathy and thus more support and power, and seems to truly believe this is somehow reasonable.reasonable.
** And then there's Federation President Min Zife and many of his cabinet, who provided Kinchawn with these weapons, and then not only made every effort to bury the secret but, in their desire not to have the Klingons even know about this heavily armed threat on their border, allowed the destruction of several Klingon ships and the deaths of thousands of Klingon troops.
** In response to what the Zife administration has done, Captain Picard and Admirals Ross, Necheyev, Jellico, and Paris uncomfortably decide to cross their own event horizon and demand that Zife and his people step down or they expose this - meaning they either, effectively, engage in a military overthrow of their own government (no matter the reason) or they give the Klingon Empire and its militant factions already chafing with allying with the Federation cause to sunder the Khitomer Accords AGAIN and plunge the Alpha Quadrant into YET. ANOTHER. bloody war.
* ''Literature/StarTrekEnterpriseRelaunch'':
** [[spoiler:Section 31 deciding to let Maltuvis take over Sauria in the name of realpolitik.]]
** [[spoiler:Later on, their using the anti-Ware code to annihilate the tech, dooming dozens of civilizations that need the tech just to have civilization.]]

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* ''VideoGame/StarTrekBridgeCommander'': Legate Matan [[spoiler: is a slippery ManipulativeBastard who turned the otherwise peaceful Kessok against the Federation and has them construct House Arterius a massive fleet to fight for him. However, he loses all sympathy when he plans to destroy a sun to wipe out a helpless Kessok colony as well as ''all of his troops currently attacking it''.]]
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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
** The last episode has the Female Changeling deal with Cardassian saboteurs by nuking Lakarian City; the resulting death toll is two million. When the Cardassian fleet learns of this, they perform a HeelFaceTurn and begin firing on the Dominion and Breen ships. How does the Female Changeling react to this?
--->'''Female Changeling''': I want the Cardassians exterminated.\\
'''Weyoun''': Which ones?\\
'''Female Changeling''': All of them. The entire population.\\
'''Weyoun''': That may... take some time.\\
'''Female Changeling''': Then I suggest you begin at once.
** The Dominion is revealed to have crossed this line long ago in the Season 4 episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E24TheQuickening}} The Quickening]]", when they infected an entire planet's population with a slow acting but ultimately lethal bioweapon, purely to discourage other worlds from resisting. This was ''after'' devastating the planet with conventional weapons.
** Gul Dukat was a mad, genocidal, sexually-ravenous dictator to begin with... and then he allied with the Dominion just to get back into a position of power, effectively setting off the chain of events that got his own planet razed to the ground.
** Admiral Leyton spends most of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E11Homefront}} Homefront]] / [[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS04E12ParadiseLost}} Paradise Lost]]" as a WellIntentionedExtremist who truly believes he's doing a good thing with his conspiracy to take over Earth and put it under martial law. He even looks sorry when he frames his old protege, Ben Sisko, and has him put in a holding cell. [[spoiler:Until three-quarters through the story, the station captures another conspirator and is bringing him to Earth on the ''Defiant'' to testify. Leyton tells his right-hand-woman that the ship was taken over by Changelings and needs to be destroyed]].
** Quark comes close when he agrees to help his cousin sell weapons after his investments fall through and his debt piles up. Everyone calls him out on it and he begins to fear it himself. He stops just short, betraying his partners after they try to sell weapons to a regent who plans on killing millions
* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'':
** Kodos the Executioner from "[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Conscience of the King]]" had murdered half the population of a colony world, picking the survivor half with [[SocialDarwinist Social Darwinism]] having convinced himself it was the only way to alleviate a famine
* ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': The aliens in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E7ScientificMethod}} Scientific Method]]" come across as an entire civilization who crossed the MoralEventHorizon long ago and have just kept on going. They routinely do medical experiments on sentient creatures, mutilating, torturing them, and even killing them if they feel it will benefit their medical research to do so. They feel completely justified in their actions and not only do they feel no remorse or regret over their actions, they feel that what they do is noble and beneficial. Genetically deforming, maiming and killing the crew of Voyager is the NightmareFuel evidence of their crimes and ''that'' is only the tip of the iceberg. What is really terrifying is that their flimsy justifications allow them to murder entire societies with impunity and go on torturing and killing as many sentient creatures as they feel is necessary for their "research."

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* Well, by the time he shows up in ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'', we know Khan Noonien Singh is a bastard, if a magnificent one, especially if you've seen ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. But when he starts putting worms in people's ears, you realize that perhaps he's kicked it up a notch on the Evulz scale; but you say to yourself that he's intelligent and charming and surely he can be reasoned with. But...when he listens to a minion kill himself and doesn't so much as ''blink'', merely ordering the surviving minion to hurry up and carry out his orders, you realize this guy ain't coming back from the horizon. Khan also certainly reminded the audience that he was evil when he activated the Genesis device instead of surrendering to the Enterprise. He knew that he would take down at least one of the Enterprise's own, if not the entire freaking ship. He would have wiped out many people just to satisfy a longtime desire for revenge. It wound up that [[spoiler:Spock, Kirk's closest friend, sacrificed himself to save the Enterprise.]]
* ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'': Shinzon went from "Attempt to make a TNG version of [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Khan]]" to "complete and utter [[JerkAss dickwad]]" when he mind raped Troi as she was having sex with Riker. He does this just to get rid of his sexual frustration and to scare Troi, and the writers use this to try and prove that he still is capable of evil. This just went too freaking far.
* The destruction of the planet [[spoiler:Vulcan]] and most of its 6 billion inhabitants at the hands of the Romulan villain Nero and his crew avenging the death of their own planet in Creator/JJAbrams' ''Film/StarTrek2009''. The death of [[spoiler:Spock's mother Amanda]] as he helplessly reaches out for her just heightens the tragedy. What makes it worse is that he's getting revenge for something that 1) hasn't actually happened in this timeline and 2) wasn't Spock's fault in the first place: future-Spock did nothing to harm Romulus and simply arrived too late to save it, and worse yet, past-Spock has done ''nothing'' pertaining to the incident at all. Nero's pretty clearly off the deep end.
* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'':
** [[spoiler:If his plot to start a war with the Klingons didn't do it, Admiral Marcus definitely crosses the line with the revelation that he ''never'' intended to spare the ''Enterprise'' or her crew, no matter what Kirk said or did.]]
** John Harrison[[spoiler:/Khan]] has several possible MEH's:
** [[spoiler:Manipulating Thomas Harewood into blowing up a Starfleet institution by curing his daughter's condition.]]
** [[spoiler:Attacking a gathering of Starfleet officers, killing Admiral Pike in the process.]]
** [[spoiler:Betraying Kirk, then attempting to murder the ''Enterprise'' crew after his people were returned to him ([[OutGambitted or so he thought]]), at a point where none of the crew posed any threat to him.]]
** [[spoiler:Setting the fatally damaged ''Vengeance'' on a collision course with San Francisco after believing that his crew had been killed.]]
* In ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', Krall crosses it during his attack on Yorktown Station; not only intent on killing everyone inside, [[spoiler: but to effectively cripple the diplomatic element of the Federation in [[UngratefulBastard for being assigned given command of the Franklin]] [[DisproportionateRetribution and having his faction of Frontier absorbed into Starfleet]]]].

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* In ''Literature/StarTrekATimeTo'', Prime Minister Kinchawn crosses it rather early, after he uses his illegally-acquired weapons to shoot down 10 Klingon ships in orbit of Tezwa, killing 6,000 warriors. If this didn't represent his crossing the line, his casual willingness to see millions of Tezwans killed in a Klingon counterstrike, including his own family, certainly does. What makes it worse is his apparent self-image as a WellIntentionedExtremist, when he's really DrunkWithPower. He sees his own children's death as merely a means to acquire more sympathy and thus more support and power, and seems to truly believe this is somehow reasonable.
* ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' has a number of characters who cross this line, very befitting of the series.
** The first you encounter is Ambassador B'Vat, who seeks to bring a ForeverWar between the Klingon Empire and the Federation. How does he plan to do that? By finding and unleashing a Doomsday Machine (the same type from ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'') on the Federation. Thankfully, the player character stops that plan. He tries again by kidnapping Miral Paris, who is said to be the Klingon Messiah, dragging her to the 23rd Century, and using their future tech to alter time so that the Klingons ruled over the galaxy and restore the alterations of the Klingons at that time. He only succeeds in the first.
** Before, there were actually missions where you could actually fail them and be deemed a traitor of the Federation. This has since been removed.
** The biggest person who crosses this line? General Hakeev of the Tal Shiar. What did he do? Oh, nothing major, just ''[[Film/StarTrek2009 be the reason that Romulus and Remus are now asteroid fields]]''. Later moments include kidnapping innocent Romulans and Remans and performing experiments with ''Borg tech'' on them and capturing random people, including your player, and pitting them in Colosseum matches. Oh, and the reason he does this? [[spoiler:Because he's working with the Iconians, a vicious race of aliens that are ready to take back the galaxy. Oh, and they crossed the line, too, by being the ones who gave Hakeev the means to blow up the planets.]]

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