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* The Dudley Boyz' 2000 run in the WWF. During their matches, the Dudleys would drive their opponents through a wooden table. When they did this [[WouldHitAGirl to females]], it was supposed to give them heel heat, but the audience ''liked'' it. The point of DoubleStandardAbuse can be argued all day, but in any case, it's a far cry from JakeTheSnake even ''attempting'' to hurt Miss Elizabeth being considered a MoralEventHorizon.
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* The Dudley Boyz' 2000 run in the WWF. During their matches, the Dudleys would drive their opponents through a wooden table. When they did this [[WouldHitAGirl to females]], it was supposed to give them heel heat, but the audience ''liked'' it. The point of DoubleStandardAbuse can be argued all day, but in any case, it's a far cry from JakeTheSnake [[Wrestling/JakeRoberts Jake]] "[[Wrestling/JakeRoberts The Snake]]" [[Wrestling/JakeRoberts Roberts]] even ''attempting'' to hurt Miss Elizabeth being considered a MoralEventHorizon.
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* The Dudley Boyz' 2000 run in the WWF. During their matches, the Dudleys would drive their opponents through a wooden table. When they did this [[WouldHitAGirl to females]], it was supposed to give them heel heat, but the audience ''liked'' it.
** At least ''some'' of this was because they did it to women who happened to be seriously disliked by the WWE fanbase, like the living incarnation of {{Fan Disservice}} herself, Mae Young. But yeah, all in all the 'Dudleys beat up women' angle was a rather unsettling thing to see.
** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in the "[[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale girls can attack guys but not the other way around]]" direction more recently; even though it was only a slap, Trish Stratus was able to attack Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania XXVII without being disqualified. Although TNA has found ways to put Eric Young in matches with women, Spike actually forbids violence against women by men on their network ... but not violence against men by women.
** At least ''some'' of this was because they did it to women who happened to be seriously disliked by the WWE fanbase, like the living incarnation of {{Fan Disservice}} herself, Mae Young. But yeah, all in all the 'Dudleys beat up women' angle was a rather unsettling thing to see.
** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in the "[[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale girls can attack guys but not the other way around]]" direction more recently; even though it was only a slap, Trish Stratus was able to attack Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania XXVII without being disqualified. Although TNA has found ways to put Eric Young in matches with women, Spike actually forbids violence against women by men on their network ... but not violence against men by women.
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* The Dudley Boyz' 2000 run in the WWF. During their matches, the Dudleys would drive their opponents through a wooden table. When they did this [[WouldHitAGirl to females]], it was supposed to give them heel heat, but the audience ''liked'' it.
** At least ''some''it. The point of this was because they did it to women who happened to DoubleStandardAbuse can be seriously disliked by the WWE fanbase, like the living incarnation of {{Fan Disservice}} herself, Mae Young. But yeah, argued all in all the 'Dudleys beat up women' angle was a rather unsettling thing to see.
** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess,day, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in the "[[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale girls can attack guys but not the other way around]]" direction more recently;any case, it's a far cry from JakeTheSnake even though it was only a slap, Trish Stratus was able ''attempting'' to attack Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania XXVII without hurt Miss Elizabeth being disqualified. Although TNA has found ways to put Eric Young in matches with women, Spike actually forbids violence against women by men on their network ... but not violence against men by women.considered a MoralEventHorizon.
** At least ''some''
** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess,
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in the "[[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale girls can attack guys but not the other way around]]" direction more recently;
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* StoneColdSteveAustin's "[[BigWhat WHAT?]]" during his 2001 heel run (''[[Memes/ProfessionalWrestling WHAT?]]'') definitely qualifies. He would say "WHAT?" (''WHAT?'') whenever someone tried to speak (''WHAT?'') during his promos as a way (''WHAT?'') to intimidate his opponent. However, it eventually caught on (''WHAT?'') with the fans (''WHAT?''), basically killing his heel push (''WHAT?''), and causing Austin to slowly revert to becoming a face again. (''WHAT?'') The audience would use the "WHAT?" chant (''WHAT?'') whenever someone who was a heel, or in some way boring, unpopular, or foreign tried to cut a promo. (''WHAT?'')
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* StoneColdSteveAustin's "[[BigWhat WHAT?]]" during his 2001 heel run (''[[Memes/ProfessionalWrestling WHAT?]]'') definitely qualifies. He would say "WHAT?" (''WHAT?'') whenever someone tried to speak (''WHAT?'') during his promos as a way (''WHAT?'') to intimidate his opponent. However, it eventually caught on (''WHAT?'') with the fans (''WHAT?''), basically killing his heel push (''WHAT?''), and causing Austin to slowly revert to becoming a face again. (''WHAT?'') The audience would use the "WHAT?" chant (''WHAT?'') whenever someone who was a heel, or in some way boring, unpopular, or foreign tried to cut a promo. the overdone style of "Short Statement Followed By Dramatic Pause" Promo Cutting.(''WHAT?'')
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** One of the reasons why the "WHAT?" chants took off is because the promo styles of WWE wrestlers became overwhelmingly homogenised over time: a series of short statements with dramatic pauses at the end of every one, providing a perfect opportunity for the crowd to chant "WHAT?"
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** One of the reasons why the "WHAT?" chants took off is because the promo styles of WWE wrestlers became overwhelmingly homogenised over time: a series of short statements with dramatic pauses at the end of every one, providing a perfect opportunity for the crowd to chant "WHAT?"
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* In another example of the Canadian audience turning things topsy-turvy for bookers, when HulkHogan returned to the WWE they were setting him up to continue his Hollywood HulkHogan heel persona and feuding with then-face [[DwayneJohnson The Rock]]. The only problem was that the climax of the feud took place at a Canadian event. Since WCW had rarely ventured north of the border, Canadian fans still largely remembered the classic face HulkHogan and proceeded to go completely wild over him, and booing The Rock, to the point where, by the end of the match, they had accomplished a completely unplanned HeelFaceTurn. You could hear the disbelief at the announcing table as this was going on.
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* In another example of the Canadian audience turning things topsy-turvy for bookers, when HulkHogan returned to the WWE they were setting him up to continue his Hollywood HulkHogan heel persona and feuding with then-face [[DwayneJohnson The Rock]]. The only problem was that the climax of the feud took place at a Canadian event.Wrestlemania X8 in Toronto. Since WCW had rarely ventured north of the border, Canadian fans still largely remembered the classic face HulkHogan and proceeded to go completely wild over him, and booing The Rock, to the point where, by the end of the match, they had accomplished a completely unplanned HeelFaceTurn. You could hear the disbelief at the announcing table as this was going on.
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** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in that direction more lately; even though it was only a slap, Trish Stratus was able to attack Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania XXVII without being disqualified. Although TNA has found ways to put Eric Young in matches with women, Spike actually forbids violence against women on their network ... but not violence against men.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in that direction more lately; even though it was only a slap, Trish Stratus was able to attack Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania XXVII without being disqualified. Although TNA has found ways to put Eric Young in matches with women, Spike actually forbids violence against women on their network ... but not violence against men.
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** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to.
to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung inthat the "[[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale girls can attack guys but not the other way around]]" direction more lately; recently; even though it was only a slap, Trish Stratus was able to attack Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania XXVII without being disqualified. Although TNA has found ways to put Eric Young in matches with women, Spike actually forbids violence against women by men on their network ... but not violence against men.men by women.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in
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** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
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** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk to.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in that direction more lately; even though itup was only a slap, Trish Stratus was able to bad experiences attack Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania XXVII without being disqualified. Although TNA has found ways to put Eric Young in matches with women, Spike actually forbids violence against women in my childhood, I guess, on their network ... but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.not violence against men.
*** Things certainly seem to have swung in that direction more lately; even though it
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* In another example of the Canadian audience turning things topsy-turvy for bookers, when HulkHogan returned to the WWE they were setting him up to continue his Hollywood HulkHogan heel persona and feuding with then-face [[DwayneJohnson The Rock]]. The only problem was that the climax of the feud took place at a Canadian event. Since WCW had rarely ventured north of the border, Canadian fans still largely remembered the classic face HulkHogan and proceeded to go completely wild over him, and booing The Rock, to the point where, by the end of the match, they had accomplished a completely unplanned HeelFaceTurn. You could hear the disbelief at the announcing table as this was going on.
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* In another example of the Canadian audience turning things topsy-turvy for bookers, when HulkHogan returned to the WWE they were setting him up to continue his Hollywood HulkHogan heel persona and feuding with then-face [[DwayneJohnson The Rock]]. The only problem was that the climax of the feud took place at a Canadian event. Since WCW had rarely ventured north of the border, Canadian fans still largely remembered the classic face HulkHogan and proceeded to go completely wild over him, and booing The Rock, to the point where, by the end of the match, they had accomplished a completely unplanned HeelFaceTurn. You could hear the disbelief at the announcing table as this was going on.on.
**That wasn't really a Canadian thing. The audience was starting to turn in favor of Hogan even before Wrestlemania X8. The crowd (including me, I was in attendance) exploded in cheers at the Raw event the week before when Hogan pinned Rock in an nWo vs Rock and Austin handicap tag match held in Detroit. It was really much more of a "Rock is getting stale" feeling coinciding with a huge nostalgia rush for Hogan and the nWo who hadn't been around for a few years.
**That wasn't really a Canadian thing. The audience was starting to turn in favor of Hogan even before Wrestlemania X8. The crowd (including me, I was in attendance) exploded in cheers at the Raw event the week before when Hogan pinned Rock in an nWo vs Rock and Austin handicap tag match held in Detroit. It was really much more of a "Rock is getting stale" feeling coinciding with a huge nostalgia rush for Hogan and the nWo who hadn't been around for a few years.
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* In {{WCW}}, there was the {{heel}} faction, The West Texas Rednecks, who were fans of country music. They feuded against the hip-hop artist, MasterP and the No Limit Soldiers, who were pushed as faces. Problem was, that WCW held their shows in the south, where rap music was hated. Not only that -- Curt Hennig and company were charismatic wrestlers who deliberately acted funny, and had a catchy theme song, while Master P's crew were ebonics-spouting stereotypical thugs who drastically outnumbered their foes (thus coming across as bullies and the heels as brave victims). Because of this, The West Texas Rednecks were cheered by the Southern crowd, and their song, "Rap is Crap", actually received airtime on Country stations.
** This might have been a good thing, since the West Texas Rednecks were getting over with the fans and starting to bring people in to watch the shows. [[SarcasmMode So WCW, in its infinite wisdom, killed the angle dead. Thank you,]]{{Vince Russo}}.
** This might have been a good thing, since the West Texas Rednecks were getting over with the fans and starting to bring people in to watch the shows. [[SarcasmMode So WCW, in its infinite wisdom, killed the angle dead. Thank you,]]{{Vince Russo}}.
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* In {{WCW}}, there was the {{heel}} faction, The West Texas Rednecks, who were fans of country music. They feuded against the hip-hop artist, MasterP and the No Limit Soldiers, who were pushed as faces. Problem was, that WCW held their shows in the south, where rap music was hated. Not only that -- Curt Hennig CurtHennig and company were charismatic wrestlers who deliberately acted funny, and had a catchy theme song, while Master P's crew were ebonics-spouting stereotypical thugs who drastically outnumbered their foes (thus coming across as bullies and the heels as brave victims). Because of this, The West Texas Rednecks were cheered by the Southern crowd, and their song, "Rap is Crap", actually received airtime on Country stations.
** This might have been a good thing, since the West Texas Rednecks were getting over with the fans and starting to bring people in to watch the shows. [[SarcasmMode So WCW, in its infinite wisdom, killed the angle dead. Thankyou,]]{{Vince Russo}}.you,]] VinceRusso.
** This might have been a good thing, since the West Texas Rednecks were getting over with the fans and starting to bring people in to watch the shows. [[SarcasmMode So WCW, in its infinite wisdom, killed the angle dead. Thank
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* When Floyd Mayweather was booked to face The Big Show at Wrestlemania 24, he was originally projected as the face, supposedly putting his boxing career at risk against a much larger opponent. Most fans, however, hated Mayweather's showboating and were so glad to see Show come back from retirement that the WWE had to quickly reverse the roles.
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* When Floyd Mayweather was booked to face The Big Show TheBigShow at Wrestlemania 24, he was originally projected as the face, supposedly putting his boxing career at risk against a much larger opponent. Most fans, however, hated Mayweather's showboating and were so glad to see Show come back from retirement that the WWE had to quickly reverse the roles.
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* In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune because they were booked as a fun heel group, and was the kind of group that you might like to hang out with. It also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, consists of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2.0 consists of a bunch of people that are past their prime.
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* In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune because they were booked as a fun heel group, and was the kind of group that you might like to hang out with. It also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, RicFlair, consists of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2.0 consists of a bunch of people that are past their prime.
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* In another example of the Canadian audience turning things topsy-turvy for bookers, when Hulk Hogan returned to the WWE they were setting him up to continue his Hollywood Hulk Hogan heel persona and feuding with then-face The Rock. The only problem was that the climax of the feud took place at a Canadian event. Since WCW had rarely ventured north of the border, Canadian fans still largely remembered the classic face Hulk Hogan and proceeded to go completely wild over him, and booing The Rock, to the point where, by the end of the match, they had accomplished a completely unplanned HeelFaceTurn. You could hear the disbelief at the announcing table as this was going on.
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* In another example of the Canadian audience turning things topsy-turvy for bookers, when Hulk Hogan HulkHogan returned to the WWE they were setting him up to continue his Hollywood Hulk Hogan HulkHogan heel persona and feuding with then-face [[DwayneJohnson The Rock.Rock]]. The only problem was that the climax of the feud took place at a Canadian event. Since WCW had rarely ventured north of the border, Canadian fans still largely remembered the classic face Hulk Hogan HulkHogan and proceeded to go completely wild over him, and booing The Rock, to the point where, by the end of the match, they had accomplished a completely unplanned HeelFaceTurn. You could hear the disbelief at the announcing table as this was going on.
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** They'll also cheer a {{Heel}} if they're persona happens to be ''very'' entertaining. The best example currently is TheMiz, who, at best, could be considered decent in the ring, but his {{Troll}} character is so hilariously petty that [[SmartMark Smarks]] just fell in love with the guy. Until WWE ran with it by giving him more screen time and putting the belt on him, at which point they turned and criticized is in-ring action again.
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** They'll also cheer a {{Heel}} if they're persona happens to be ''very'' entertaining. The best example currently is TheMiz, who, at best, could be considered decent in the ring, but his {{Troll}} character is so hilariously petty that [[SmartMark Smarks]] just fell in love with the guy. Until WWE ran with it by giving him more screen time and putting the belt on him, at which point they turned and criticized is in-ring action again.again.
* It's well known in the WWE that it's really, really hard to get a Canadian audience to consider a Canadian wrestler as the heel in a given match unless they happen to be fighting another Canadian.
* In another example of the Canadian audience turning things topsy-turvy for bookers, when Hulk Hogan returned to the WWE they were setting him up to continue his Hollywood Hulk Hogan heel persona and feuding with then-face The Rock. The only problem was that the climax of the feud took place at a Canadian event. Since WCW had rarely ventured north of the border, Canadian fans still largely remembered the classic face Hulk Hogan and proceeded to go completely wild over him, and booing The Rock, to the point where, by the end of the match, they had accomplished a completely unplanned HeelFaceTurn. You could hear the disbelief at the announcing table as this was going on.
* It's well known in the WWE that it's really, really hard to get a Canadian audience to consider a Canadian wrestler as the heel in a given match unless they happen to be fighting another Canadian.
* In another example of the Canadian audience turning things topsy-turvy for bookers, when Hulk Hogan returned to the WWE they were setting him up to continue his Hollywood Hulk Hogan heel persona and feuding with then-face The Rock. The only problem was that the climax of the feud took place at a Canadian event. Since WCW had rarely ventured north of the border, Canadian fans still largely remembered the classic face Hulk Hogan and proceeded to go completely wild over him, and booing The Rock, to the point where, by the end of the match, they had accomplished a completely unplanned HeelFaceTurn. You could hear the disbelief at the announcing table as this was going on.
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** 2011 saw the crowd use the ''WHAT?'' to heckle a [[FaceHeelTurn freshly-turned]] [[RonKillings R-Truth]], to great comedic effect.
---> '''R-Truth''': "Don't WHAT me!"
---> '''R-Truth''': "Don't WHAT me!"
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** They'll also cheer a {{Heel}} if they're persona happens to be ''very'' entertaining. The best example currently is TheMiz, who, at best, could be considered decent in the ring, but his {{Troll}} character is so hilariously petty that [[SmartMark Smarks]] just fell in love with the guy.
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** They'll also cheer a {{Heel}} if they're persona happens to be ''very'' entertaining. The best example currently is TheMiz, who, at best, could be considered decent in the ring, but his {{Troll}} character is so hilariously petty that [[SmartMark Smarks]] just fell in love with the guy. Until WWE ran with it by giving him more screen time and putting the belt on him, at which point they turned and criticized is in-ring action again.
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** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayIfIt'sFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
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** That depends on whether or not one believed [[AbuseIsOkayIfIt'sFemaleOnMale [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale women should get to attack and harm men with impunity in a show based around combat.]]. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
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** That depends on whether or not one believed ViolenceIsOkayIfIt'sFemaleOnMale. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
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** That depends on whether or not one believed ViolenceIsOkayIfIt'sFemaleOnMale. I for one, enjoyed seeing wrestlers willing to attack women since it threw off the idea that only women could attack men in wrestling, while guys weren't allowed to. Chalk it up to bad experiences with women in my childhood, I guess, but I enjoyed seeing equal opportunity asskickers in the promotion.
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They were doing this in the JCP TV studios as early as 1985; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy8KYsf3CwM
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* Believe it or not, the ''"Wooo!"'' sound that accompanies Knife-Edge Chops in Professional Wrestling were also derogatory in nature (at first, anyway). They were made famous by "The Nature Boy" RicFlair, a RealLife enemy of "The Franchise" Shane Douglas, {{ECW}} mainstay. He would often imitate Ric Flair's famous ''"Wooo!"'' after landing a chop, and soon the entire ECW crowd would join in; ECW at that time strongly hated the old style of wrestling companies like NWA and [[{{WWE}} WWF]] were putting on at the time. Soon, though, the ''"Wooo!"''s from the crowd lost their original meaning, and even Flair himself sees it as a term of endearment.
** A big reason why the cry became more popular was that, while originally it was to praise the face Shane Douglas, when Douglas turned heel the Woos were a way of ''mocking'' Douglas. However, since that logically meant fans were cheering for Flair instead, people just started doing it for Flair and anyone else who'd throw a chop.
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* After a few weeks of frustration concerning tag partner Tajiri, EddieGuerrero went [[BerserkButton berserk when Tajiri touched his low-rider]] (in reality, Tajiri had been thrown into the car by an opponent) and tossed Tajiri into the windshield. The next ''[=SmackDown=]'', Eddie cut a promo saying that he was only going to look after number one, which was supposed to be a heel turn, but the fans had begun to buy into the Lie, Cheat, and Steal face persona cultivated just a few weeks prior with Los Guerreros' feud with [[WorldsGreatestTagTeam Team Angle]] that the action fit the criteria, and the crowd ''cheered'' for Eddie. Suffice to say, Eddie stayed a babyface.
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* After a few weeks of frustration concerning tag partner Tajiri, EddieGuerrero went [[BerserkButton berserk when Tajiri touched his low-rider]] (in reality, Tajiri had been thrown into the car by an opponent) and tossed Tajiri into the windshield. The next ''[=SmackDown=]'', Eddie cut a promo saying that he was only going to look after number one, which was supposed to be a heel turn, but the fans had begun to buy into the Lie, Cheat, and Steal face persona cultivated just a few weeks prior with Los Guerreros' feud with [[WorldsGreatestTagTeam [[TheWorldsGreatestTagTeam Team Angle]] that the action fit the criteria, and the crowd ''cheered'' for Eddie. Suffice to say, Eddie stayed a babyface.
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* After a few weeks of frustration concerning tag partner Tajiri, EddieGuerrero went [[BerzerkButton berzerk when Tajiri touched his low-rider]] (in reality, Tajiri had been thrown into the car by an opponent) and tossed Tajiri into the windshield. The next ''[=SmackDown=], Eddie cut a promo saying that he was only going to look after number one, which was supposed to be a heel turn, but the fans had begun to buy into the Lie, Cheat, and Steal face persona cultivated just a few weeks prior with Los Guerreros' feud with [[WorldsGreatestTagTeam Team Angle]] that the action fit the criteria, and the crowd ''cheered'' for Eddie. Suffice to say, Eddie stayed a babyface.
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* After a few weeks of frustration concerning tag partner Tajiri, EddieGuerrero went [[BerzerkButton berzerk [[BerserkButton berserk when Tajiri touched his low-rider]] (in reality, Tajiri had been thrown into the car by an opponent) and tossed Tajiri into the windshield. The next ''[=SmackDown=], ''[=SmackDown=]'', Eddie cut a promo saying that he was only going to look after number one, which was supposed to be a heel turn, but the fans had begun to buy into the Lie, Cheat, and Steal face persona cultivated just a few weeks prior with Los Guerreros' feud with [[WorldsGreatestTagTeam Team Angle]] that the action fit the criteria, and the crowd ''cheered'' for Eddie. Suffice to say, Eddie stayed a babyface.
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** Also one for HulkHogan, twisting it around into his personal CatchPhrase:
---> '''Crowd:''' "WHAT?"
---> '''Hogan:''' "-CHA GONNA DO?"
---> '''Crowd:''' "WHAT?"
---> '''Hogan:''' "-CHA GONNA DO?"
---> '''Crowd:''' "WHAT?"
---> '''Hogan:''' "-CHA GONNA DO?"
---> '''Crowd:''' "WHAT?"
---> '''Hogan:''' "-CHA GONNA DO?"
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* This is how the smark community works in general. Their basic rule is: You must love and cheer for the best pure technical wrestler, no matter how much of a CompleteMonster his character is made out to be. You get extra points if doing so wrecks one of the WWE's live shows.
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* This is how the smark community works in general. Their basic rule is: You must love and cheer for the best pure technical wrestler, no matter how much of a CompleteMonster his character is made out to be. You get extra points if doing so wrecks one of the WWE's live shows.shows.
** They'll also cheer a {{Heel}} if they're persona happens to be ''very'' entertaining. The best example currently is TheMiz, who, at best, could be considered decent in the ring, but his {{Troll}} character is so hilariously petty that [[SmartMark Smarks]] just fell in love with the guy.
** They'll also cheer a {{Heel}} if they're persona happens to be ''very'' entertaining. The best example currently is TheMiz, who, at best, could be considered decent in the ring, but his {{Troll}} character is so hilariously petty that [[SmartMark Smarks]] just fell in love with the guy.
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** This might have been a good thing, since the West Texas Rednecks were getting over with the fans and starting to bring people in to watch the shows. [[SarcasmMode So WCW, in its infinite wisdom, killed the angle dead. Thank you,]]{{Vince Russo}}.
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** At least ''some'' of this was because they did it to women who happened to be seriously disliked by the WWE fanbase, like the living incarnation of {{Fan Disservice}} herself, Mae Young. But yeah, all in all the 'Dudleys beat up women' angle was a rather unsettling thing to see.
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* In {{WCW}}, there was the {{heel}} faction, The West Texas Rednecks, who were fans of country music. They feuded against the hip-hop artist, Master P and the No Limit Soldiers, who were pushed as faces. Problem was, that WCW held their shows in the south, where rap music was hated. Not only that -- Curt Hennig and company were charismatic wrestlers who deliberately acted funny, and had a catchy theme song, while Master P's crew were ebonics-spouting stereotypical thugs who drastically outnumbered their foes (thus coming across as bullies and the heels as brave victims). Because of this, The West Texas Rednecks were cheered by the Southern crowd, and their song, "Rap is Crap", actually received airtime on Country stations.
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* In {{WCW}}, there was the {{heel}} faction, The West Texas Rednecks, who were fans of country music. They feuded against the hip-hop artist, Master P MasterP and the No Limit Soldiers, who were pushed as faces. Problem was, that WCW held their shows in the south, where rap music was hated. Not only that -- Curt Hennig and company were charismatic wrestlers who deliberately acted funny, and had a catchy theme song, while Master P's crew were ebonics-spouting stereotypical thugs who drastically outnumbered their foes (thus coming across as bullies and the heels as brave victims). Because of this, The West Texas Rednecks were cheered by the Southern crowd, and their song, "Rap is Crap", actually received airtime on Country stations.
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* The Dudley Boyz's 2000 run in the WWF. During their matches, the Dudleys would drive their opponents through a wooden table. When they did this [[WouldHitAGirl to females]], it was supposed to give them heel heat, but the audience ''liked'' it.
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* The Dudley Boyz's Boyz' 2000 run in the WWF. During their matches, the Dudleys would drive their opponents through a wooden table. When they did this [[WouldHitAGirl to females]], it was supposed to give them heel heat, but the audience ''liked'' it.
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* Ted Dibiase was supposed to be booked as the babyface during the Legacy breakup and have a singles push. WWE's build up was going to have Orton be the heel with Ted being the popular babyface but Ortons antics made him so popular with the fans that it made him look like the face of the feud so WWE had to do a quick change and have Ted Jr remain heel. Edge even lampshaded this in a promo during his confrontation with Orton
* In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune cause they was booked as a fun heel group and was the kind of group that you like to hang out with. Also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, consist of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2 consist of a bunch of people that are past their prime.
* This is how the smark community works in general. Their basic rule is: You must love and cheer for the best pure technical wrestler no matter how much of a CompleteMonster his character is made out to be. You get extra points if doing so wrecks one of the WWE's liv shows.
* In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune cause they was booked as a fun heel group and was the kind of group that you like to hang out with. Also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, consist of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2 consist of a bunch of people that are past their prime.
* This is how the smark community works in general. Their basic rule is: You must love and cheer for the best pure technical wrestler no matter how much of a CompleteMonster his character is made out to be. You get extra points if doing so wrecks one of the WWE's liv shows.
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* Ted Dibiase was supposed to be booked as the babyface during the Legacy breakup and have a singles push. WWE's build up was going to have Orton be the heel with Ted being the popular babyface but Ortons Orton's antics made him so popular with the fans that it made him look like the face of the feud so WWE had to do a quick change and have Ted Jr remain heel. Edge even lampshaded this in a promo during his confrontation with Orton
Orton.
* In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortunecause because they was were booked as a fun heel group group, and was the kind of group that you might like to hang out with. Also It also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, consist consists of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2 consist EV2.0 consists of a bunch of people that are past their prime.
* This is how the smark community works in general. Their basic rule is: You must love and cheer for the best pure technicalwrestler wrestler, no matter how much of a CompleteMonster his character is made out to be. You get extra points if doing so wrecks one of the WWE's liv live shows.
* In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune
* This is how the smark community works in general. Their basic rule is: You must love and cheer for the best pure technical
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* StoneColdSteveAustin's "[[BigWhat WHAT?]]" during his 2001 heel run (''[[Memes/ProfessionalWrestling WHAT?]]'') definitely qualifies. He would say "WHAT?" (''WHAT?'') whenever someone tries to speak (''WHAT?'') during his promos as a way (''WHAT?'') to intimidate his opponent. However, it eventually caught on (''WHAT?'') with the fans (''WHAT?''), basically killing his heel push (''WHAT?''), and causing Austin to slowly revert to becoming a face again. (''WHAT?'') The audience would use the "WHAT?" chant (''WHAT?'') whenever someone who was a heel, or in some way boring, unpopular, or foreign tried to cut a promo. (''WHAT?'')
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* StoneColdSteveAustin's "[[BigWhat WHAT?]]" during his 2001 heel run (''[[Memes/ProfessionalWrestling WHAT?]]'') definitely qualifies. He would say "WHAT?" (''WHAT?'') whenever someone tries tried to speak (''WHAT?'') during his promos as a way (''WHAT?'') to intimidate his opponent. However, it eventually caught on (''WHAT?'') with the fans (''WHAT?''), basically killing his heel push (''WHAT?''), and causing Austin to slowly revert to becoming a face again. (''WHAT?'') The audience would use the "WHAT?" chant (''WHAT?'') whenever someone who was a heel, or in some way boring, unpopular, or foreign tried to cut a promo. (''WHAT?'')
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* In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune cause they was booked as a fun heel group and was the kind of group that you like to hang out with. Also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, consist of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2 consist of a bunch of people that are past their prime
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* In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune cause they was booked as a fun heel group and was the kind of group that you like to hang out with. Also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, consist of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2 consist of a bunch of people that are past their primeprime.
* This is how the smark community works in general. Their basic rule is: You must love and cheer for the best pure technical wrestler no matter how much of a CompleteMonster his character is made out to be. You get extra points if doing so wrecks one of the WWE's liv shows.
* This is how the smark community works in general. Their basic rule is: You must love and cheer for the best pure technical wrestler no matter how much of a CompleteMonster his character is made out to be. You get extra points if doing so wrecks one of the WWE's liv shows.
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* In {{WCW}}, there was the {{heel}} faction, The West Texas Rednecks, who were fans of country music. They feuded against the hip-hop artist, Master P and the No Limit Soldiers, who were pushed as faces. Problem was, that WCW held their shows in the south, where rap music was hated. Because of this, The West Texas Rednecks were cheered by the Southern crowd, and their song, "Rap is Crap", actually received airtime on Country stations.
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* In {{WCW}}, there was the {{heel}} faction, The West Texas Rednecks, who were fans of country music. They feuded against the hip-hop artist, Master P and the No Limit Soldiers, who were pushed as faces. Problem was, that WCW held their shows in the south, where rap music was hated. Not only that -- Curt Hennig and company were charismatic wrestlers who deliberately acted funny, and had a catchy theme song, while Master P's crew were ebonics-spouting stereotypical thugs who drastically outnumbered their foes (thus coming across as bullies and the heels as brave victims). Because of this, The West Texas Rednecks were cheered by the Southern crowd, and their song, "Rap is Crap", actually received airtime on Country stations.
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* StoneColdSteveAustin's "[[BigWhat WHAT?]]" during his 2001 heel run (''[[Memes/ProfessionalWrestling WHAT?]]'') definitely qualifies. He would say "WHAT?" (''WHAT?'') whenever someone tries to speak (''WHAT?'') during his promos as a way (''WHAT?'') to imtimidate his opponent. However, it eventually caught on (''WHAT?'') with the fans (''WHAT?''), basically killing his heel push (''WHAT?''), and causing Austin to slowly revert to becoming a face again. (''WHAT?'') The audience would use the "WHAT?" chant (''WHAT?'') whenever someone who was a heel, or in some way boring, unpopular, or foreign tried to cut a promo. (''WHAT?'')
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* StoneColdSteveAustin's "[[BigWhat WHAT?]]" during his 2001 heel run (''[[Memes/ProfessionalWrestling WHAT?]]'') definitely qualifies. He would say "WHAT?" (''WHAT?'') whenever someone tries to speak (''WHAT?'') during his promos as a way (''WHAT?'') to imtimidate intimidate his opponent. However, it eventually caught on (''WHAT?'') with the fans (''WHAT?''), basically killing his heel push (''WHAT?''), and causing Austin to slowly revert to becoming a face again. (''WHAT?'') The audience would use the "WHAT?" chant (''WHAT?'') whenever someone who was a heel, or in some way boring, unpopular, or foreign tried to cut a promo. (''WHAT?'')
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* Ted Dibiasi was supposed to be booked as the babyface during the Legacy breakup and have a singles push. WWE's build up was going to have Orton be the heel with Ted being the popular babyface but Ortons antics made him so popular with the fans that it made him look like the face of the feud so WWE had to do a quick change and have Ted Jr remain heel. Edge even lampshaded this in a promo during his confrontation with Orton
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* Ted Dibiasi Dibiase was supposed to be booked as the babyface during the Legacy breakup and have a singles push. WWE's build up was going to have Orton be the heel with Ted being the popular babyface but Ortons antics made him so popular with the fans that it made him look like the face of the feud so WWE had to do a quick change and have Ted Jr remain heel. Edge even lampshaded this in a promo during his confrontation with Orton
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* When Floyd Mayweather was booked to face The Big Show at Wrestlemania 24, he was originally projected as the face, supposedly putting his boxing career at risk against a much larger opponent. Most fans, however, hated Mayweather's showboating and were so glad to see Show come back from retirement that the WWE had to quickly reverse the roles.
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* When Floyd Mayweather was booked to face The Big Show at Wrestlemania 24, he was originally projected as the face, supposedly putting his boxing career at risk against a much larger opponent. Most fans, however, hated Mayweather's showboating and were so glad to see Show come back from retirement that the WWE had to quickly reverse the roles.roles.
*Ted Dibiasi was supposed to be booked as the babyface during the Legacy breakup and have a singles push. WWE's build up was going to have Orton be the heel with Ted being the popular babyface but Ortons antics made him so popular with the fans that it made him look like the face of the feud so WWE had to do a quick change and have Ted Jr remain heel. Edge even lampshaded this in a promo during his confrontation with Orton
*In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune cause they was booked as a fun heel group and was the kind of group that you like to hang out with. Also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, consist of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2 consist of a bunch of people that are past their prime
*Ted Dibiasi was supposed to be booked as the babyface during the Legacy breakup and have a singles push. WWE's build up was going to have Orton be the heel with Ted being the popular babyface but Ortons antics made him so popular with the fans that it made him look like the face of the feud so WWE had to do a quick change and have Ted Jr remain heel. Edge even lampshaded this in a promo during his confrontation with Orton
*In the start of EV2's feud with Fortune the crowd was rooting for the stable Fortune, even during the beatdown that Fortune gave EV2, the night after EV2 had their reunion PPV, the crowd was chanting for Fortune. Spoony even commented that it's hard to root against Fortune cause they was booked as a fun heel group and was the kind of group that you like to hang out with. Also made sense that the group, outside of Flair, consist of a bunch of upcoming TNA superstars while EV2 consist of a bunch of people that are past their prime
