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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', it's noted that Raiden, the new protagonist, has mostly only been trained by virtual reality simulations. Snake (who said simulations were based on the personal experience of) far outclasses him. [[spoiler:In a twist, the whole game turns out to have been a plot by [[GreaterScopeVillain The Patriots]] to recreate the events of the previous games, using Raiden as an UnwittingPawn to produce enough data to create a simulation which averts this trope.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', it's noted that Raiden, the new protagonist, has mostly only been trained by virtual reality simulations. Snake (who said simulations were based on the personal experience of) far outclasses him. [[spoiler:In a twist, the whole game turns out to have been a plot by [[GreaterScopeVillain The Patriots]] to recreate the events of the previous games, using Raiden as an UnwittingPawn to produce enough data to create a simulation which averts this trope.]]
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* In ''Film/BatmanBegins'' Bruce is one of the finest recruits for the League of Shadows, quickly learning and adapting to all the training he was given by Ducard. When he decides to engage the criminal element in Gotham, his entire strategy has to change because [[[[ThouShaltNotKill he is unwilling to use the Leagues' extreme methods]], ''and'' he has to develop the Batman persona through trial and error while adapting rejected R&D equipment for his own use. This results in a few early missteps, with his first attempt to escape via a rooftop ending in him smacking into a fire escape and making himself look like an idiot.

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* In ''Film/BatmanBegins'' Bruce is one of the finest recruits for the League of Shadows, quickly learning and adapting to all the training he was given by Ducard. When he decides to engage the criminal element in Gotham, his entire strategy has to change because [[[[ThouShaltNotKill [[ThouShaltNotKill he is unwilling to use the Leagues' extreme methods]], ''and'' he has to develop the Batman persona through trial and error while adapting rejected R&D equipment for his own use. This results in a few early missteps, with his first attempt to escape via a rooftop ending in him smacking into a fire escape and making himself look like an idiot.

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* ''Literature/{{Gate}}'': Princess Piña Co Lada is well trained, but that was only in sword lessons and combat drills. In her first real battle, the Battle of Italica, she panics and freezes up when her battle plan goes wrong and everyone around her is dying. If the JSDF hadn't interfered, she would have likely been captured or killed.
* ''Literature/InvadersOfTheRokujyouma'': Yurika claims to be [[MagicalGirlWarrior "Magical Girl Rainbow Yurika"]], sent from [[MagicalLand an otherworldly kingdom]] to defend Room 106 from evildoers... but she never displays any magic, and is timid, lazy and generally incompetent enough to become the group ButtMonkey. However, when she's not restricted by her land's PrimeDirective she proves herself to be a StrongAndSkilled CowardlyLion with a knack for elaborate {{Wizard Duel}}s. In volume 19 it's revealed why Folsaria would send an agent who seems so ill-prepared for their duties -- [[spoiler:reaching the rank of "Rainbow" would normally take about five years of training, but Yurika was so [[StrongAndSkilled gifted]] and [[PassingTheTorch driven to follow in Rainbow Nana's footsteps]] that she went from {{Muggle}} to TheArchmage in only ''one year''. Nana claims that the only place left for Yurika to grow is her [[{{Determinator}} strength of heart]], and on the day she achieves that she'll go down as the greatest wizard in history.]]


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* ''Literature/{{Gate}}'': Princess Piña Co Lada is well trained, but that was only in sword lessons and combat drills. In her first real battle, the Battle of Italica, she panics and freezes up when her battle plan goes wrong and everyone around her is dying. If the JSDF hadn't interfered, she would have likely been captured or killed.
* ''Literature/InvadersOfTheRokujyouma'': Yurika claims to be [[MagicalGirlWarrior "Magical Girl Rainbow Yurika"]], sent from [[MagicalLand an otherworldly kingdom]] to defend Room 106 from evildoers... but she never displays any magic, and is timid, lazy and generally incompetent enough to become the group ButtMonkey. However, when she's not restricted by her land's PrimeDirective she proves herself to be a StrongAndSkilled CowardlyLion with a knack for elaborate {{Wizard Duel}}s. In volume 19 it's revealed why Folsaria would send an agent who seems so ill-prepared for their duties -- [[spoiler:reaching the rank of "Rainbow" would normally take about five years of training, but Yurika was so [[StrongAndSkilled gifted]] and [[PassingTheTorch driven to follow in Rainbow Nana's footsteps]] that she went from {{Muggle}} to TheArchmage in only ''one year''. Nana claims that the only place left for Yurika to grow is her [[{{Determinator}} strength of heart]], and on the day she achieves that she'll go down as the greatest wizard in history.]]

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Depending on the story, this will end in either a horribly ignominious death, or a valuable source of experience that will end in the character becoming genuinely StrongAndSkilled.

Compare EnsignNewbie, EveryYearTheyFizzleOut, PaperTiger, TaughtByExperience and WeakButSkilled. Contrast IncompletelyTrained, StrongAndSkilled and UnskilledButStrong. See also SkilledButNaive, where the NaiveNewcomer can come across as rather ditzy or green-horned, but are still able to do what they do best when given the opportunity. May result in a ([[SubvertedTrope subverted]]) case of WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer

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The counterpoint to this is TaughtByExperience, where someone has the skills to handle the project but never went through the comprehensive training to expand their knowledge base past the immediate needs of the work. If these two people interact you might find a TechnicianVersusPerformer situation.

Depending on the story, this will end in either a horribly ignominious death, or a valuable source of experience that will end in the character becoming genuinely StrongAndSkilled.

StrongAndSkilled.

Compare EnsignNewbie, EveryYearTheyFizzleOut, PaperTiger, TaughtByExperience PaperTiger and WeakButSkilled. Contrast IncompletelyTrained, StrongAndSkilled and UnskilledButStrong. See also SkilledButNaive, where the NaiveNewcomer can come across as rather ditzy or green-horned, but are still able to do what they do best when given the opportunity. May result in a ([[SubvertedTrope subverted]]) case of WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer


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* Many academic degrees and professional certifications require an internship, apprenticeship or professional assistant before completion. In the cases of some careers like physicians even after getting their degree their field demands a progressive demonstration of their knowledge and ability to perform the work before being considered fully trained. Thus someone can have an expansive knowledge of medicine or engineering but still have to show they can keep up with the rigors of the day-to-day requirements.
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** The Com Guard ended up on the receiving end of this trope when they faced the Clans at Tukayyid. Well-disciplined, drilled intensely, given the best technology available to the Inner Sphere and fanatically loyal to [=ComStar=], they were nonetheless intended to be hidden from the Inner Sphere and only a few of them had therefore ever faced real combat (usually as part of {{False Flag Operation}}s or veteran converts from the Great Houses). The Com Guard still won, thanks to superior strategy (as in, they had one), numbers (six-to-one advantage, and the defensive ground), preparation, and most of the Clans not taking them seriously as a threat, but still suffered over 40% fatalities (not casualties -- ''fatalities'') during the battle. When faced with the one Clan that actually did prep-work for the battle (Clan Wolf), the Com Guard got trounced.

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** The Com Guard ended up on the receiving end of this trope when they faced the Clans at Tukayyid. Well-disciplined, drilled intensely, given the best technology available to the Inner Sphere and fanatically loyal to [=ComStar=], they were nonetheless intended to be hidden from the Inner Sphere and only a few of them had therefore ever faced real combat (usually as part of {{False Flag Operation}}s or veteran converts from the Great Houses). The Com Guard still won, thanks to superior strategy (as in, they had one), numbers (six-to-one advantage, and the defensive ground), preparation, and most of the Clans not taking them seriously as a threat, but still suffered over 40% fatalities (not casualties -- ''fatalities'') during the battle. When faced with the one Clan that actually did prep-work for the battle (Clan Wolf), the Com Guard got trounced.trounced (and even then they managed to kill a Khan).
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** A textbook example is the lightsaber duel in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Darth Vader, a veteran of the Clone Wars, is a NoNonsenseNemesis with three and a half decades worth of EXP, whereas his son Luke is a great pilot and foot soldier but a rookie Jedi, and has minor (at best) experience confronting a Sith Lord. The result is a CurbStompBattle in Vader's favor, and his iconic WhamLine revealing [[LukeIAmYourFather his relation to Luke]] haunts the latter for months afterward.
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* During the main comic for ''WebComic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Hinjo is a [[ThePaladin paladin]] and a capable fighter. However, in the prequel story "How the Paladin Got His Scar", which takes place somewhere around a dozen years before the start of the comic, a teenage Hinjo is just a junior ambassador who gets involved in the plot partly due to luck. He has combat training from his uncle's samurai, but has absolutely zero combat experience, so one of the very first things that happens after Hinjo and the experienced soldier O-Chul meet is O-Chul sits Hinjo down and explains to him that Hinjo would be a liability in an actual fight, so much so that one of the other members of their very small group would need to babysit him to make sure he didn't get himself killed. Therefore, he is not to attempt to join in a fight under any circumstance. Hinjo agrees, and proves O-Chul right shortly afterward, when during an ambush he freezes in place when an enemy attacks him and is wounded as a result.
-->'''O-Chul:''' Do you know ''why'' I just asked you if you can fight?\\
'''Hinjo:''' Because you want to know if you can rely on my sword if this mission turns deadly?\\
'''O-Chul:''' No. I already know that I cannot, just by watching you move. You have never drawn blood with that blade. I asked because, knowing that you cannot fight, I need to determine if ''you'' know that you cannot fight, and therefore, whether one of us would be obligated to protect you from your own overconfidence in the event of a battle. And so I ask you again: Do you know how to fight?\\
'''Hinjo:''' ... no.
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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'': In her youth, the MasterSwordsman Meti trained her body and her sword skills relentlessly until at sixteen her strength and athleticism bordered on CharlesAtlasSuperpower. In her first real fight she was subsequently beaten nearly to death, broke her sword, and only killed her opponent by gouging his brain out with her thumbs. This event led her to conclude that she had been training all the wrong skills, and she proceeded to develop a style founded on actualizing her KillingIntent: the ability to cut down any opponent of any skill through simple reflex, as easily and unconsciously as breathing, thereby sidestepping the need to train anything else.

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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'': In her youth, the MasterSwordsman Meti trained her body and her sword skills relentlessly until at sixteen her strength and athleticism bordered on CharlesAtlasSuperpower. In her first real fight she was subsequently beaten nearly to death, broke her sword, and only killed her opponent by gouging his brain out with her thumbs. This event led her to conclude that she had been training all the wrong skills, -- things like "skill" and "technique" had simply distracted her from the act of Cutting Down Her Opponent -- and she proceeded to develop a style founded solely on actualizing KillingIntent and her KillingIntent: the ability to cut down any opponent of any skill through simple reflex, as easily and unconsciously as breathing, thereby sidestepping the need to train anything else.actualize it.
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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'': In her youth, the MasterSwordsman Meti trained her body and her sword skills relentlessly until at sixteen her strength and athleticism bordered on CharlesAtlasSuperpower. In her first real fight she was subsequently beaten nearly to death, broke her sword, and only killed her opponent by gouging his brain out with her thumbs. This event led her to conclude that she had been training all the wrong skills, and proceeded to develop a style founded on pure KillingIntent: the ability to cut down any opponent of any skill through simple reflex, as easily and unconsciously as breathing, thereby sidestepping the need to train anything at all.

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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'': In her youth, the MasterSwordsman Meti trained her body and her sword skills relentlessly until at sixteen her strength and athleticism bordered on CharlesAtlasSuperpower. In her first real fight she was subsequently beaten nearly to death, broke her sword, and only killed her opponent by gouging his brain out with her thumbs. This event led her to conclude that she had been training all the wrong skills, and she proceeded to develop a style founded on pure actualizing her KillingIntent: the ability to cut down any opponent of any skill through simple reflex, as easily and unconsciously as breathing, thereby sidestepping the need to train anything at all.else.
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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'': In her youth, the MasterSwordsman Meti trained her body and her sword skills relentlessly until at sixteen her strength and athleticism bordered on CharlesAtlasSuperpower. In her first real fight she was subsequently beaten nearly to death, broke her sword, and only killed her opponent by gouging his brain out with her thumbs. This event led her to conclude that she had been training all the wrong skills, and proceeded to develop a style founded on pure KillingIntent: the ability to cut down any opponent of any skill through simple reflex, as easily and unconsciously as breathing, thereby sidestepping the need to train anything at all.
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'': Guel Jeturk was once the top duelist in Asticassia Academy but, he is still just an innocent civilian whose fighting experience consists of normal non-fatal duels. When he is faced with the possibility that he can die for real, he sobs and cries while fighting for his life. [[spoiler:This isn't helped when he learns that the pilot trying to kill him, who he kills in self-defense, is his own father.]]

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'': Guel Jeturk was once the top duelist in Asticassia Academy but, he is still just an innocent civilian whose fighting experience consists of normal non-fatal duels. When he is faced with the possibility that he can die for real, he sobs and cries while fighting for his life. [[spoiler:This Nonetheless, he ''does'' win, if by the skin of his teeth. [[spoiler:His horror isn't helped when he learns that the pilot trying to kill him, who he kills in self-defense, is his own father.]]
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* ''LightNovel/InvadersOfTheRokujyouma'': Yurika claims to be [[MagicalGirlWarrior "Magical Girl Rainbow Yurika"]], sent from [[MagicalLand an otherworldly kingdom]] to defend Room 106 from evildoers... but she never displays any magic, and is timid, lazy and generally incompetent enough to become the group ButtMonkey. However, when she's not restricted by her land's PrimeDirective she proves herself to be a StrongAndSkilled CowardlyLion with a knack for elaborate {{Wizard Duel}}s. In volume 19 it's revealed why Folsaria would send an agent who seems so ill-prepared for their duties -- [[spoiler:reaching the rank of "Rainbow" would normally take about five years of training, but Yurika was so [[StrongAndSkilled gifted]] and [[PassingTheTorch driven to follow in Rainbow Nana's footsteps]] that she went from {{Muggle}} to TheArchmage in only ''one year''. Nana claims that the only place left for Yurika to grow is her [[{{Determinator}} strength of heart]], and on the day she achieves that she'll go down as the greatest wizard in history.]]

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* ''LightNovel/InvadersOfTheRokujyouma'': ''Literature/InvadersOfTheRokujyouma'': Yurika claims to be [[MagicalGirlWarrior "Magical Girl Rainbow Yurika"]], sent from [[MagicalLand an otherworldly kingdom]] to defend Room 106 from evildoers... but she never displays any magic, and is timid, lazy and generally incompetent enough to become the group ButtMonkey. However, when she's not restricted by her land's PrimeDirective she proves herself to be a StrongAndSkilled CowardlyLion with a knack for elaborate {{Wizard Duel}}s. In volume 19 it's revealed why Folsaria would send an agent who seems so ill-prepared for their duties -- [[spoiler:reaching the rank of "Rainbow" would normally take about five years of training, but Yurika was so [[StrongAndSkilled gifted]] and [[PassingTheTorch driven to follow in Rainbow Nana's footsteps]] that she went from {{Muggle}} to TheArchmage in only ''one year''. Nana claims that the only place left for Yurika to grow is her [[{{Determinator}} strength of heart]], and on the day she achieves that she'll go down as the greatest wizard in history.]]
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** Momo Yaoyorozu got into UA on recommendation, coming from a rich family and possessing a quirk -- "Creation" - that she had spent hours studying for in its use. While she is an incredibly intelligent member of the class and has used her quirk to great effectiveness when as part of a group, she has difficulty when forced to stand on her own, a problem that has given her reserves of self-doubt as she continues to lose fights as the series progresses. Recognizing this, Aizawa pairs her up with Shoto Todoroki (who also relies too much on his quirk to carry him) against himself.

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** Momo Yaoyorozu got into UA on recommendation, coming from a rich family and possessing a quirk -- "Creation" - -- that she had spent hours much of her time studying for in its use. While she is an incredibly intelligent member of the class and has used her quirk to great effectiveness when as part of a group, she has difficulty when forced to stand on her own, a problem that has given her reserves of self-doubt as she continues to lose fights as the series progresses. Recognizing this, Aizawa pairs her up with Shoto Todoroki (who also relies too much on his quirk to carry him) against himself.

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* In Season 7 of ''Series/GameOfThrones'' there's young Dickon Tarly, whose father is one of the best generals in the Kingdom and has obviously had extensive training in how to be a knight and the art of war. However, he had no actual battle experience before [[spoiler:being called upon to take part in sacking Highgarden]], and after the battle he is [[WarIsHell clearly disturbed by his first glimpse of real warfare]].



->'''Rhaenyra:''' Those men are tourney knights. My father should be defended by a man who's known real combat.

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* In the book version of ''Literature/ThePrincessBride'', during [[SwordFight his duel]] with the Man in Black/Westley, Inigo notes that Westley is a tremendous fighter when the two are in the middle of open ground, but is tripped up when Inigo lures him over to obstacles like large rocks and trees, where Inigo is able to briefly take the upper hand. This dovetails with their back stories, as Westley was extremely well trained by [[PirateKing the Dread Pirate Roberts]] and his crew... but he was trained to fight aboard a ship and all his fighting experience [[{{Pirate}} has taken place about boats]], so he has no training or practical experience dealing with natural land obstacles likes trees or boulders. Meanwhile Inigo has traveled all over the world training under and fighting various masters, including one SadistTeacher who insisted on Inigo learning to fight on rough terrain and under all sorts of adverse conditions. And on top of ''that'', Inigo has been working as a mercenary with Vizzini and Fezzik, fighting to the death in all sorts of situations and places. As a result Inigo has both the training and experience to better deal with such obstacles.

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* In the book version of ''Literature/ThePrincessBride'', during [[SwordFight his duel]] with the Man in Black/Westley, Inigo notes that Westley is a tremendous fighter when the two are in the middle of open ground, but is tripped up when Inigo lures him over to obstacles like large rocks and trees, where Inigo is able to briefly take the upper hand. This dovetails with their back stories, as Westley was extremely well trained by [[PirateKing the Dread Pirate Roberts]] and his crew... but he was trained to fight aboard a ship and all his fighting experience [[{{Pirate}} has taken place about aboard boats]], so he has no training or practical experience dealing with natural land obstacles likes trees or boulders. Meanwhile Inigo has traveled all over the world training under and fighting various masters, including one SadistTeacher who insisted on Inigo learning to fight on rough terrain and under all sorts of adverse conditions. And on top of ''that'', Inigo has been working as a mercenary with Vizzini and Fezzik, fighting to the death in all sorts of situations and places. As a result Inigo has both the training and experience to better deal with such obstacles.
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* A flashback during ''Manga/{{Vagabond}}'' shows a young Denshichiro was this. Although thoroughly trained by his father and older brother, both of whom were [[MasterSwordsman Master Swordsmen]], a teenage Denshichiro was utterly inexperienced with anything approaching a real fight and plagued by nervousness and fear which would make him freeze up when getting into a fight. He gradually snaps out of it during his duel with Kojiro, and while certainly not a master on the same level as his father, brother, or Musashi, became a much more formidable combatant afterward.
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* ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'': The third part of Paradis's military, the Military Police, are held up as the elite of humanity's fighters; the top ten trainees from every class of recruits get picked to join them, as they are given food, luxury, and safety behind the innermost wall. However, considering that humanity is embroiled in a war for survival against the Titans, this is a way for people to be able to cower behind the walls in safety despite how much more valuable their skills would be in the field. [[spoiler:When the Survey Corps launches a coup against the government, the Military Police are essentially helpless against their lesser-ranked but much more experienced counterparts and fail utterly to resist at all.]]

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* ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'': The third part of Paradis's military, the Military Police, are held up as the elite of humanity's fighters; the top ten trainees from every class of recruits get picked to join them, as they are given food, luxury, and safety behind the innermost wall. However, considering that humanity is embroiled in a war for survival against the Titans, this is a way for people to be able to cower behind the walls in safety despite how much more valuable their skills would be in the field. [[spoiler:When the Survey Corps launches a coup against the government, the Military Police are essentially helpless against their lesser-ranked but much more experienced counterparts and fail utterly to resist at all. There is one unit, however, the Anti-Personnel Control Squad, that is ''frighteningly'' efficient, but even then they still don't last long.]]
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* ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'': The third part of Paradis's military, the Military Police, are held up as the elite of humanity's fighters; the top ten trainees from every class of recruits get picked to join them, as they are given food, luxury, and safety behind the innermost wall. However, considering that humanity is embroiled in a war for survival against the Titans, this is a way for people to be able to cower behind the walls in safety despite how much more valuable their skills would be in the field. [[spoiler:When the Survey Corps launches a coup against the government, the Military Police are essentially helpless against their lesser-ranked but much more experienced counterparts and fail utterly to resist at all.]]
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** The Jedi also qualify this by Episode II. One reason why they suffer such high casualties in the Clone Wars is because they are essentially trained as an elite peacekeeping and police force, but not for sustained battlefield conditions.

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** The Jedi also qualify this by Episode II. One reason why they suffer such high casualties in the Clone Wars is because they are essentially trained as an elite peacekeeping and police force, but not for sustained battlefield conditions. Mace Windu even says at the start of the movie that they are specifically keepers of the peace, not soldiers. While the Jedi ''have'' fought in many wars in the past (very often against the [[ArchEnemy Sith]]), it's been centuries since the Sith have existed.
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** Naval aviators in particular must land on an actual aircraft carrier including a certain number of nighttime carrier landings, at a regular frequency in order to avoid this issue and maintain their qualification to fly aircraft for the navy. Simulated landings do not count, as they will not be able to replicate the difficult task of landing at a precise location on a pitching and rolling ship’s deck. Promotions to higher rank and even qualifications for command often require that a certain number of carrier landings be amassed.
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* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', Alphianud and Alisaie are both {{Teen Genius}}es who are the youngest ever to graduate from the Studium, the finest college in the ProudScholarRace nation of Sharlayan. This also extends to their skills at offensive and healing magics, with Alphinaud summoning a unique obsidian carbuncle while Alisaie wields the SecretArt of red magic. But both teenagers have limited experience on the battlefield due to their age. Alphinaud in particular is clearly shaken when he's ambushed by bears at Gorgagne Mills and needs a moment to compose himself after killing one of them. Alisaie is also said to struggle with the rigorous physical component of her fighting style.

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* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', Alphianud Alphinaud and Alisaie are both {{Teen Genius}}es who are the youngest ever to graduate from the Studium, the finest college in the ProudScholarRace nation of Sharlayan. This also extends to their skills at offensive and healing magics, with Alphinaud summoning a unique obsidian carbuncle while Alisaie wields the SecretArt of red magic. But both teenagers have limited experience on the battlefield due to their age.age and their nation's pacifist ways. Alphinaud in particular is clearly shaken when he's ambushed by bears at Gorgagne Mills and needs a moment to compose himself after killing one of them. Alisaie is also said to struggle with the rigorous physical component of her fighting style.
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* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', Alphianud and Alisaie are both {{Teen Genius}}es who are the youngest ever to graduate from the Studium, the finest college in the ProudScholarRace nation of Sharlayan. This also extends to their skills at offensive and healing magics, with Alphinaud summoning a unique obsidian carbuncle while Alisaie wields the SecretArt of red magic. But both teenagers have limited experience on the battlefield due to their age. Alphinaud in particular is clearly shaken when he's ambushed by bears at Gorgagne Mills and needs a moment to compose himself after killing one of them. Alisaie is also said to struggle with the rigorous physical component of her fighting style.
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'': Guel Jeturk was once the top duelist in Asticassia Academy but, he is still just an innocent civilian whose fighting experience consists of normal non-fatal duels. When he is faced with the possibility that he can die for real, he sobs and cries while fighting for his life. [[spoiler:This isn't helped when he learns that the pilot trying to kill him, who he kills in self-defense, is his own father.]]
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'': Patrick Colasour has completed 2000 simulation battles, but gets stomped in all of his battles with the Gundam Meisters. Downplayed in that the Gundam Meisters [[CantCatchUp have really good tech]] and when Patrick has to fight against mobile suits on par with his (however few times that occurs), [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass he gets to show why he's considered one of the AEU's aces]].

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'': Patrick Colasour has completed 2000 simulation battles, but gets stomped in all of his battles with the Gundam Meisters. Downplayed in that the Gundam Meisters [[CantCatchUp [[BiggerStick have really good tech]] an enormous technological advantage]] and when Patrick has to fight against mobile suits on par with his (however few times that occurs), [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass he gets to show why he's considered one of the AEU's aces]].

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