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* Northa attempts to use this on Setsuna in ''Anime/FreshPrettyCure'' as part of a MoreThanMindControl gambit. Earlier in the series -- right after her HeelFaceTurn -- Wester attempted a similar speech, but it was closer in tone to a IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight.

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* Northa attempts to use this on Setsuna in ''Anime/FreshPrettyCure'' as part of a MoreThanMindControl gambit. Earlier in the series -- right after her HeelFaceTurn -- Wester attempted a similar speech, but it was closer in tone to a IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight. Soular tries the same thing the next episode, also failing.


** A few years later, Bassdrum of Trio the Minor would pull this on Ellen a few times after her HeelFaceTurn in ''Anime/SuitePrettyCure''. It works to a point - she was under a lot of guilt over what she'd done as Seiren and was under the assumption that no one would want to forgive her. Hummy had to hit her with a Clue Bat a few times to get her to understand everything.

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** A few years later, Bassdrum of Trio the Minor would pull this on Ellen a few times after her HeelFaceTurn in ''Anime/SuitePrettyCure''.''Anime/SuitePrettyCure'', under Mephisto's orders. It works to a point - she was under a lot of guilt over what she'd done as Seiren and was under the assumption that no one would want to forgive her. Hummy had to hit her with a Clue Bat a few times to get her to understand everything.


* ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'': Zira uses this effectively with the Pridelanders after Kovu betrays her, leading Simba to exile him back to the Outlands.
* ''Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'': Jafar uses this tactic on Iago. Iago does betray Aladdin as Jafar commands him to, but this allegiance doesn't stick.

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* ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'': ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'': Zira uses this effectively with the Pridelanders after Kovu betrays her, leading Simba to exile him back to the Outlands.
* ''Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'': ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'': Jafar uses this tactic on Iago. Iago does betray Aladdin as Jafar commands him to, but this allegiance doesn't stick.

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-->'''Worf:''' You have talked of glory and of conquest and legends we will write. [...] Yet in all you say, where are the words "duty", "honour", "loyalty"? Without which a warrior is nothing!

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* Played with in the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "Heart of Glory", the audience's first in-depth look at the Klingon race. The Klingons were portrayed as a VillainOfTheWeek in the Original Series, and in this episode Korris wants to go back to the GoodOldWays rather than accept the era of peace that Worf (a Klingon raised among humans) represents, so he tries to recruit Worf to his cause, arguing that battle is InTheBlood.
-->'''Korris:''' I have tasted your heart. You have been with them, but you are still of us. Do not deny the challenge of your destiny. Get off your knees and soar! Open your eyes and let the dream take flight!


* In ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'', the Witch tries to reclaim a character who has made a HeelFaceTurn by telling the heroes that he is a traitor and his blood is her property. The problem is, according to the laws of magic in Narnia, it's actually a valid claim and they have to go through, to put it simply, a lot of troubles to get him completely back.

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* In ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'', the Witch tries to reclaim a character who has made a HeelFaceTurn by telling the heroes that he is a traitor and his blood is her property. The problem is, according According to the laws of magic in Narnia, it's actually a valid claim claim; the Witch has the right to kill any traitor, and they have to go through, to put it simply, a lot of troubles to get him completely back.


* ''WesternAnimation/{{Samurai Jack}}'': While they are fighting during Jack's medatation for his sword, the High Priestess delivers one of these speeches to Ashi berating her for her disowning her family and joining Jack on the good side.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Samurai Jack}}'': While they are fighting during Jack's medatation meditation for his sword, the High Priestess delivers one of these speeches to Ashi berating her for her disowning her family and joining Jack on the good side.


* In ''Manga/SoulEater'', [[MagnificentBastard Medusa]] does this ''to the defector in question.'' Without missing a single beat, she manages to talk Chrona into admitting that Chrona only ''pretended'' to defect in order to spy for Medusa, when no such thing was true. Given that Chrona is still a half-insane emotional wreck with severe [[WellDoneSonGuy mommy issues]] this works perfectly and causes Chrona to become an actual mole, while the rest of Chrona's new friends are blissfully unaware. [[FromBadToWorse This only further deteriorates Chrona's fragile psyche]]. Later, in the anime [[spoiler: she tries the same thing again when Crona turns against her, with [[ShutUpHannibal less fruitful results.]]]]

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* In ''Manga/SoulEater'', [[MagnificentBastard Medusa]] does this ''to the defector in question.'' Without missing a single beat, she manages to talk Chrona into admitting that Chrona only ''pretended'' to defect in order to spy for Medusa, when no such thing was true. Given that Chrona is still a half-insane emotional wreck with severe [[WellDoneSonGuy mommy issues]] this works perfectly and causes Chrona to become an actual mole, while the rest of Chrona's new friends are blissfully unaware. [[FromBadToWorse This only further deteriorates Chrona's fragile psyche]]. Later, in the anime [[spoiler: she tries the same thing again when Crona Chrona turns against her, with [[ShutUpHannibal less fruitful results.]]]]


The BigBad uses this against the heroes [[ThirdActMisunderstanding in order to sow distrust among the heroes]] about [[AHouseDivided the new comrade.]] They will say their former minion is merely infiltrating the group and that he or she will soon [[FaceHeelTurn backstab them]] in the worst time possible. Or they'll scorn the naivete of the recruiter to be so desperate to make [[StrangeBedfellows what will be, at best, a temporary alliance]] with the newly recruited villain. When the Lecture is used against the betrayer, the BigBad will start off by mocking them for joining the wrong side. When they refuse to change sides, they resort to talking about how [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech worthless they are to both sides]]. If that doesn't work, blackmailing will: talking about how they need a certain [[PsychoSerum drug]] to survive will possibly put them back in line. Dead relatives are the best way to coerce them. Afterwards, the BigBad will leave, letting it stew for a while before getting the results.

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The BigBad uses this against the heroes [[ThirdActMisunderstanding in order to sow distrust among the heroes]] about [[AHouseDivided the new comrade.]] They will say their former minion is merely infiltrating the group and that he or she will soon [[FaceHeelTurn backstab them]] in the worst time possible. Or they'll scorn the naivete of the recruiter to be so desperate to make [[StrangeBedfellows [[EnemyMine what will be, at best, a temporary alliance]] with the newly recruited villain. When the Lecture is used against the betrayer, the BigBad will start off by mocking them for joining the wrong side. When they refuse to change sides, they resort to talking about how [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech worthless they are to both sides]]. If that doesn't work, blackmailing will: talking about how they need a certain [[PsychoSerum drug]] to survive will possibly put them back in line. Dead relatives are the best way to coerce them. Afterwards, the BigBad will leave, letting it stew for a while before getting the results.


* ''WesternAnimation/{{Samurai Jack}}'': While they are fighting during Jack's medatation for his sword, the High Priestess delivers one of these speeches to Ashi berating for her disowning her family and joining Jack on the good side.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Samurai Jack}}'': While they are fighting during Jack's medatation for his sword, the High Priestess delivers one of these speeches to Ashi berating her for her disowning her family and joining Jack on the good side.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Samurai Jack}}'': While they are fighting during Jack's medatation for his sword, the High Priestess delivers one of these speeches to Ashi berating for her disowning her family and joining Jack on the good side.


* Schneizel uses this trope against Lelouch in ''CodeGeass''. [[spoiler:He goes over to the Black Knights and "accidentally" drops the little bit of info that Zero is Lelouch, his brother. Then he follows up by revealing Lelouch's Geass and finishes with an out-of-context recording of Lelouch admitting his responsibility of the Euphinator incident, [[ManipulativeBastard conveniently forgetting]] to tell the shocked Knights that Lelouch did that due to PowerIncontinence. Cue the Black Knights freaking out and betraying him, with [[MagnificentBastard Lelouch]] [[XanatosSpeedChess playing along and pretending to have manipulated everyone to his own ends]] [[BreakHerHeartToSaveHer in order to save Kallen]].]] And Lelouch ''still'' pulls out of this shitstorm by [[spoiler:going over to Britannia and usurping the throne]].

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* Schneizel uses this trope against Lelouch in ''CodeGeass''.''Anime/CodeGeass''. [[spoiler:He goes over to the Black Knights and "accidentally" drops the little bit of info that Zero is Lelouch, his brother. Then he follows up by revealing Lelouch's Geass and finishes with an out-of-context recording of Lelouch admitting his responsibility of the Euphinator incident, [[ManipulativeBastard conveniently forgetting]] to tell the shocked Knights that Lelouch did that due to PowerIncontinence. Cue the Black Knights freaking out and betraying him, with [[MagnificentBastard Lelouch]] [[XanatosSpeedChess playing along and pretending to have manipulated everyone to his own ends]] [[BreakHerHeartToSaveHer in order to save Kallen]].]] And Lelouch ''still'' pulls out of this shitstorm by [[spoiler:going over to Britannia and usurping the throne]].


* ''WesternAnimation/TheVenturesBros'': After [[spoiler: Henchman 21]] quits in the previous season finale, the Monarch delivers an odd variation of this trope to his own wife instead of the good guys, insisting that the former employee is just "deep undercover" and still loyal and dedicated to the Monarch's goal of ruining Dr. Venture's life. Whether he's just in denial or really believes it is unclear.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheVenturesBros'': ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros'': After [[spoiler: Henchman 21]] quits in the previous season finale, the Monarch delivers an odd variation of this trope to his own wife instead of the good guys, insisting that the former employee is just "deep undercover" and still loyal and dedicated to the Monarch's goal of ruining Dr. Venture's life. Whether he's just in denial or really believes it is unclear.


* After [[spoiler: Henchman 21]] quits in the previous season finale, the Monarch delivers an odd variation of this trope to his own wife instead of the good guys, insisting that the former employee is just "deep undercover" and still loyal and dedicated to the Monarch's goal of ruining Dr. Venture's life. Whether he's just in denial or really believes it is unclear.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheVenturesBros'': After [[spoiler: Henchman 21]] quits in the previous season finale, the Monarch delivers an odd variation of this trope to his own wife instead of the good guys, insisting that the former employee is just "deep undercover" and still loyal and dedicated to the Monarch's goal of ruining Dr. Venture's life. Whether he's just in denial or really believes it is unclear.

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