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In this society, fathers are not expected to have a bond with their children. Everyone has a DisappearedDad. Maybe the kids are expected to be reared by only their mother and her family. Often times, this overlaps with LadyLand and/or MamasBabyPapasMaybe.
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In this society, fathers are not expected to have a bond with their children. Everyone has a DisappearedDad. Maybe the kids are expected to be reared by only their mother and her family. Often times, Oftentimes, this overlaps with LadyLand and/or MamasBabyPapasMaybe.
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* ''ComicBook/DungeonTheEarlyYears'': In the French comic, male dragons are not supposed to see their own children (doing so is a serious crime against their religion). After Marvin does so anyway, he willingly blinds himself then slaughters the dragons exiling him. Years later, he meets one of his friends and posits that the law was set up by dragons who didn't want any of the responsibilities of parenting.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': In ''Venom Vs. Carnage'' #2, where Toxin was introduced, the story opens with Venom and Carnage arguing about what to do with Carnage's incoming offspring (it's complicated, just go with it). Carnage wants to kill it, Venom wants to take it from Carnage and rear the infant symbiote himself. The one point they can agree on is that a "loving" relationship between a father and his direct offspring is against the natural order of their kind. Whether this is actually part of symbiote "culture" or a result of the fact the hosts of said symbiotes are batpoop insane is unclear.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': In ''Venom Vs. Carnage'' #2, where Toxin was introduced, the story opens with Venom and Carnage arguing about what to do with Carnage's incoming offspring (it's complicated, just go with it). Carnage wants to kill it, Venom wants to take it from Carnage and rear the infant symbiote himself. The one point they can agree on is that a "loving" relationship between a father and his direct offspring is against the natural order of their kind. Whether this is actually part of symbiote "culture" or a result of the fact the hosts of said symbiotes are batpoop insane is unclear.
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* ''ComicBook/DungeonTheEarlyYears'': In the French comic, ''ComicBook/DungeonTheEarlyYears'', male dragons are not supposed to see their own children (doing so is a serious crime against their religion). After Marvin does so anyway, he willingly blinds himself then slaughters the dragons exiling him. Years later, he meets one of his friends and posits that the law was set up by dragons who didn't want any of the responsibilities of parenting.
*''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': In ''Venom Vs. Carnage'' ''ComicBook/{{Venom}} vs. ComicBook/{{Carnage}}'' #2, where in which Toxin was is introduced, the story opens with Venom and Carnage arguing about what to do with Carnage's incoming offspring (it's complicated, just go with it). Carnage wants to kill it, Venom wants to take it from Carnage and rear the infant symbiote himself. The one point they can agree on is that a "loving" relationship between a father and his direct offspring is against the natural order of their kind. Whether this is actually part of symbiote "culture" or a result of the fact the hosts of said symbiotes are batpoop insane is unclear.
*
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** ''ComicBook/WonderWoman2011'': The titular protagonist is one of many children on Themyscira. The Amazons [[DoesNotLikeMen hate men]], but they kidnap men who cross near their island, [[ChildByRape reproduce with them]], and then kill them (and [[OffingOnesOffspring their sons]] if a baby is born male).
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** ''ComicBook/WonderWoman2011'': The titular protagonist Diana is one of many children on Themyscira. The Amazons [[DoesNotLikeMen hate men]], but they kidnap men who cross near their island, [[ChildByRape reproduce with them]], and then kill them (and [[OffingOnesOffspring [[OffingTheOffspring their sons]] if a baby is born male).
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* Deconstructed in ''{{WesternAnimation/Bambi}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/BambiII''. Like in the original novel, the Great Prince lives mostly in seclusion, watching the herd from afar. When his mate is killed by a hunter, he is wary about rearing Bambi himself since the general order of things is that he doesn't care for the young. As time passes, however, he grows a bond with Bambi and relents.
* In ''WesternAnimation/MarsNeedsMoms'', on Mars all the men are banished from society due to be perceived as useless. Children are raised exclusively by women, but they're not very good at it so they have to kidnap human mothers from Earth and use them to programme [[RaisedByRobots robots that rear the children]] (and they always go after human ''mothers'' rather than fathers). This is averted in the ending; following a revolution men are allowed to participate in Martian society again, and both fathers and mothers raise children.
* In ''WesternAnimation/MarsNeedsMoms'', on Mars all the men are banished from society due to be perceived as useless. Children are raised exclusively by women, but they're not very good at it so they have to kidnap human mothers from Earth and use them to programme [[RaisedByRobots robots that rear the children]] (and they always go after human ''mothers'' rather than fathers). This is averted in the ending; following a revolution men are allowed to participate in Martian society again, and both fathers and mothers raise children.
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* Deconstructed in ''{{WesternAnimation/Bambi}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Bambi}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/BambiII''. Like in the original novel, the Great Prince lives mostly in seclusion, watching the herd from afar. When his mate is killed by a hunter, he is wary about rearing Bambi himself since the general order of things is that he doesn't care for the young. As time passes, however, he grows a bond with Bambi and relents.
* In ''WesternAnimation/MarsNeedsMoms'', onMars Mars, all the men are banished from society due to be perceived as useless. Children are raised exclusively by women, but they're not very good at it so they have to kidnap human mothers from Earth and use them to programme program [[RaisedByRobots robots that rear the children]] (and they always go after human ''mothers'' rather than fathers). This is averted in the ending; following a revolution revolution, men are allowed to participate in Martian society again, and both fathers and mothers raise children.
* In ''WesternAnimation/MarsNeedsMoms'', on
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* In the original ''Literature/{{Bambi}}'' book, the females [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe usually don't know]] who fathered their children. During the breeding season, Bambi becomes head-over-heels for his [[KissingCousins cousin, Faline]] and rarely wants to leave her side. After she becomes pregnant, Bambi finds his interest in Faline quickly waning until he can't stand to be around her anymore and runs off [[spoiler:to live in seclusion]].
* Implied in ''Literature/CatPack'' as a FurryReminder. Carlotta has kittens, and the other cats want to be their step-father, but no one ever brings up the kittens' ''biological'' father.
* Implied in ''Literature/CatPack'' as a FurryReminder. Carlotta has kittens, and the other cats want to be their step-father, but no one ever brings up the kittens' ''biological'' father.
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* In the original ''Literature/{{Bambi}}'' book, ''Literature/{{Bambi}}'', the females [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe usually don't know]] who fathered their children. During the breeding season, Bambi becomes head-over-heels for his [[KissingCousins cousin, Faline]] and rarely wants to leave her side. After she becomes pregnant, Bambi finds his interest in Faline quickly waning until he can't stand to be around her anymore and runs off [[spoiler:to live in seclusion]].
* Implied in ''Literature/CatPack'' as a FurryReminder. Carlotta has kittens, and the other cats want to be their step-father, but no one ever brings up the kittens' ''biological''father. father.
* ''Literature/EarthsChildren'': All the cultures portrayed in the books have no concept of fatherhood, not realizing there's a connection between having sex and reproduction. While some do notice a resemblance between certain men and children, this is ascribed to their "spirit" affecting them. Thus, a man will refer to one as the "child of their spirit", but this isn't viewed as a biological connection. Because of this, their sisters' children are a man's heirs, not any child whom their mate has. Children refer to their mother's mate as "the man of my hearth", though usually, they have the ''emotional'' relationship a father would. However, in some cases this may [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe not be their birth father]] anyway, since sexual exclusivity isn't strictly enforced due to the aforementioned lack of knowledge that paternity exists (though a person's mate may be hurt if they have sex with another). Ayla realizes that men are needed to produce children, however, as a result of her observations. Despite initial skepticism, she eventually convinces people it's true and the series makes clear this will profoundly change the culture into what is normal now.
* Implied in ''Literature/CatPack'' as a FurryReminder. Carlotta has kittens, and the other cats want to be their step-father, but no one ever brings up the kittens' ''biological''
* ''Literature/EarthsChildren'': All the cultures portrayed in the books have no concept of fatherhood, not realizing there's a connection between having sex and reproduction. While some do notice a resemblance between certain men and children, this is ascribed to their "spirit" affecting them. Thus, a man will refer to one as the "child of their spirit", but this isn't viewed as a biological connection. Because of this, their sisters' children are a man's heirs, not any child whom their mate has. Children refer to their mother's mate as "the man of my hearth", though usually, they have the ''emotional'' relationship a father would. However, in some cases this may [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe not be their birth father]] anyway, since sexual exclusivity isn't strictly enforced due to the aforementioned lack of knowledge that paternity exists (though a person's mate may be hurt if they have sex with another). Ayla realizes that men are needed to produce children, however, as a result of her observations. Despite initial skepticism, she eventually convinces people it's true and the series makes clear this will profoundly change the culture into what is normal now.
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* ''Literature/{{Stray}}'': Pufftail's daughter Tabitha is unusual in that she's close to him. Most cats don't know their fathers. Tabitha's own son Kitchener was the result of a short fling with an unnamed roaming tom. Pufftail himself says that he doesn't understand why humans seem so obsessed with their adult children. To him, it's ''unnatural'' for parents to care about, or even think much about, their offspring. He likely has hundreds of children but doesn't care to meet them. Pufftail is close to Tabitha because she's different from the others. Pufftail loves Tabitha so much because [[spoiler:she is [[StrongFamilyResemblance the spitting image]] of her MissingMom, Pufftail's [[TheLostLenore Lost Lenore]] Tammy]].
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* ''Literature/{{Stray}}'': The Efrosians in the ''Literature/StarTrekNovelVerse'' are described this way - children are raised solely by their mother, and their culture has no concept or word for "father". The closest analog according to the UniversalTranslator is "seed-donor".
* ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'':
** Inverted with the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Mandalorians]]. Mothers are expected to care for the infants. Once a child is old enough to walk, the father is expected to step in and do the bulk of rearing and training them, to the point where "deadbeat dad" is one of their worst insults.
** Female Barabels mate with 3-4 males each before laying eggs, and the young don’t know who their dads are, let alone being raised by them.
* ''Literature/Stray1987'': Pufftail's daughter Tabitha is unusual in that she's close to him. Most cats don't know their fathers. Tabitha's own son Kitchener was the result of a short fling with an unnamed roaming tom. Pufftail himself says that he doesn't understand why humans seem so obsessed with their adult children. To him, it's ''unnatural'' for parents to care about, or even think much about, their offspring. He likely has hundreds of children but doesn't care to meet them. Pufftail is close to Tabitha because she's different from the others. Pufftail loves Tabitha so much because [[spoiler:she is [[StrongFamilyResemblance the spitting image]] of her MissingMom, Pufftail's [[TheLostLenore Lost Lenore]] Tammy]].
* ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'':
** Inverted with the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Mandalorians]]. Mothers are expected to care for the infants. Once a child is old enough to walk, the father is expected to step in and do the bulk of rearing and training them, to the point where "deadbeat dad" is one of their worst insults.
** Female Barabels mate with 3-4 males each before laying eggs, and the young don’t know who their dads are, let alone being raised by them.
* ''Literature/Stray1987'': Pufftail's daughter Tabitha is unusual in that she's close to him. Most cats don't know their fathers. Tabitha's own son Kitchener was the result of a short fling with an unnamed roaming tom. Pufftail himself says that he doesn't understand why humans seem so obsessed with their adult children. To him, it's ''unnatural'' for parents to care about, or even think much about, their offspring. He likely has hundreds of children but doesn't care to meet them. Pufftail is close to Tabitha because she's different from the others. Pufftail loves Tabitha so much because [[spoiler:she is [[StrongFamilyResemblance the spitting image]] of her MissingMom, Pufftail's [[TheLostLenore Lost Lenore]] Tammy]].
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* The Efrosians in the Literature/StarTrekNovelVerse are described this way - children are raised solely by their mother, and their culture has no concept or word for "father". The closest analog according to the UniversalTranslator is "seed-donor".
* ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'':
** Inverted with the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Mandalorians]]. Mothers are expected to care for the infants. Once a child is old enough to walk, the father is expected to step in and do the bulk of rearing and training them, to the point where "deadbeat dad" is one of their worst insults.
** Female Barabels mate with 3-4 males each before laying eggs, and the young don’t know who their dads are, let alone being raised by them.
* ''Literature/EarthsChildren'': All the cultures portrayed in the books have no concept of fatherhood, not realizing there's a connection between having sex and reproduction. While some do notice a resemblance between certain men and children, this is ascribed to their "spirit" affecting them. Thus a man will refer to one as the "child of their spirit", but this isn't viewed as a biological connection. Because of this, their sisters' children are a man's heirs, not any child whom their mate has. Children refer to their mother's mate as "the man of my hearth", though usually, they have the ''emotional'' relationship a father would. However, in some cases this may [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe not be their birth father]] anyway, since sexual exclusivity isn't strictly enforced due to the aforementioned lack of knowledge that paternity exists (though a person's mate may be hurt if they have sex with another). Ayla realizes that men are needed to produce children, however, as a result of her observations. Despite initial skepticism, she eventually convinces people it's true and the series makes clear this will profoundly change the culture into what is normal now.
* ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'':
** Inverted with the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Mandalorians]]. Mothers are expected to care for the infants. Once a child is old enough to walk, the father is expected to step in and do the bulk of rearing and training them, to the point where "deadbeat dad" is one of their worst insults.
** Female Barabels mate with 3-4 males each before laying eggs, and the young don’t know who their dads are, let alone being raised by them.
* ''Literature/EarthsChildren'': All the cultures portrayed in the books have no concept of fatherhood, not realizing there's a connection between having sex and reproduction. While some do notice a resemblance between certain men and children, this is ascribed to their "spirit" affecting them. Thus a man will refer to one as the "child of their spirit", but this isn't viewed as a biological connection. Because of this, their sisters' children are a man's heirs, not any child whom their mate has. Children refer to their mother's mate as "the man of my hearth", though usually, they have the ''emotional'' relationship a father would. However, in some cases this may [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe not be their birth father]] anyway, since sexual exclusivity isn't strictly enforced due to the aforementioned lack of knowledge that paternity exists (though a person's mate may be hurt if they have sex with another). Ayla realizes that men are needed to produce children, however, as a result of her observations. Despite initial skepticism, she eventually convinces people it's true and the series makes clear this will profoundly change the culture into what is normal now.
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* In the "Slice Girls" episode of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', a single-gender society of Amazonian women sustains itself by having sex with men they meet in bars. They intentionally have unprotected sex in order to get pregnant and then leave with no intention of informing the fathers. When the children, who are always female, are ready to be inducted as a full member of society, their rite of passage is to go back and murder their unsuspecting biological fathers.
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* In the "Slice Girls" ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', "[[Recap/SupernaturalS07E13TheSliceGirls The Slice Girls]]", a single-gender society of Amazonian women sustains itself by having sex with men they meet in bars. They intentionally have unprotected sex in order to get pregnant and then leave with no intention of informing the fathers. When the children, who are always female, are ready to be inducted as a full member of society, their rite of passage is to go back and murder their unsuspecting biological fathers.
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* Fishgirls in ''Webcomic/EnnuiGo'' are an all-female race that require human men in order to reproduce, though the fact that they can only stay out of the water for a few hours at a time means that they usually only have sex for the purpose of having a kid and then leave the guy behind. The few exceptions that we do see are either chimeras (who are stuck on land due to a genetic disorder), or used magic to turn themselves human.
* Fishgirls in ''Webcomic/EnnuiGo'' are an all-female race that require human men in order to reproduce, though the fact that they can only stay out of the water for a few hours at a time means that they usually only have sex for the purpose of having a kid and then leave the guy behind. The few exceptions that we do see are either chimeras (who are stuck on land due to a genetic disorder), or used magic to turn themselves human.
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* Fishgirls in ''Webcomic/EnnuiGo'' are an [[OneGenderRace all-female
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* In the French comic ''ComicBook/DungeonTheEarlyYears'', male dragons are not supposed to see their own children (doing so is a serious crime against their religion). After Marvin does so anyway, he willingly blinds himself then slaughters the dragons exiling him. Years later, he meets one of his friends and posits that the law was set up by dragons who didn't want any of the responsibilities of parenting.
* In the ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' story where Toxin was introduced, the story opens with Venom and Carnage arguing about what to do with Carnage's incoming offspring (it's complicated, just go with it). Carnage wants to kill it, Venom wants to take it from Carnage and rear the infant symbiote himself. The one point they can agree on is that a "loving" relationship between a father and his direct offspring is against the natural order of their kind. Whether this is actually part of symbiote "culture" or a result of the fact the hosts of said symbiotes are batpoop insane is unclear.
* ''Franchise/WonderWoman'':
* In the ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' story where Toxin was introduced, the story opens with Venom and Carnage arguing about what to do with Carnage's incoming offspring (it's complicated, just go with it). Carnage wants to kill it, Venom wants to take it from Carnage and rear the infant symbiote himself. The one point they can agree on is that a "loving" relationship between a father and his direct offspring is against the natural order of their kind. Whether this is actually part of symbiote "culture" or a result of the fact the hosts of said symbiotes are batpoop insane is unclear.
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* ''ComicBook/DungeonTheEarlyYears'': In the French comic ''ComicBook/DungeonTheEarlyYears'', comic, male dragons are not supposed to see their own children (doing so is a serious crime against their religion). After Marvin does so anyway, he willingly blinds himself then slaughters the dragons exiling him. Years later, he meets one of his friends and posits that the law was set up by dragons who didn't want any of the responsibilities of parenting.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': Inthe ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' story ''Venom Vs. Carnage'' #2, where Toxin was introduced, the story opens with Venom and Carnage arguing about what to do with Carnage's incoming offspring (it's complicated, just go with it). Carnage wants to kill it, Venom wants to take it from Carnage and rear the infant symbiote himself. The one point they can agree on is that a "loving" relationship between a father and his direct offspring is against the natural order of their kind. Whether this is actually part of symbiote "culture" or a result of the fact the hosts of said symbiotes are batpoop insane is unclear.
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* Fishgirls in ''Webcomic/EnnuiGo'' are an all-female race that require human men in order to reproduce, though the fact that they can only stay out of the water for a few hours at a time means that they usually only have sex for the purpose of having a kid and then leave the guy behind. The few exceptions that we do see are either chimeras (who can only survive on land due to a genetic disorder), or used magic to turn themselves human.
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* Fishgirls in ''Webcomic/EnnuiGo'' are an all-female race that require human men in order to reproduce, though the fact that they can only stay out of the water for a few hours at a time means that they usually only have sex for the purpose of having a kid and then leave the guy behind. The few exceptions that we do see are either chimeras (who can only survive are stuck on land due to a genetic disorder), or used magic to turn themselves human.
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* [[Characters/EnnuiGoFishgirls Fishgirls]] in ''Webcomic/EnnuiGo'' are an all-female race that require human men in order to reproduce, though the fact that they can only stay out of the water for a few hours at a time means that they usually only have sex for the purpose of having a kid and then leave the guy behind. The few exceptions that we do see are either chimeras (who can only survive on land due to a genetic disorder), or used magic to turn themselves human.
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* [[Characters/EnnuiGoFishgirls Fishgirls]] Fishgirls in ''Webcomic/EnnuiGo'' are an all-female race that require human men in order to reproduce, though the fact that they can only stay out of the water for a few hours at a time means that they usually only have sex for the purpose of having a kid and then leave the guy behind. The few exceptions that we do see are either chimeras (who can only survive on land due to a genetic disorder), or used magic to turn themselves human.
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* ''Film/BornInTheMaelstrom'': The community does not have any men, so the childrens' fathers aren't involved with their lives. In the case of Rebecca, this is because she'd been [[spoiler:[[ChildByRape conceived by rape]], but in the others' cases it isn't clear why.
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* ''Film/BornInTheMaelstrom'': The community does not have any men, so the childrens' fathers aren't involved with their lives. In the case of Rebecca, this is because she'd been [[spoiler:[[ChildByRape conceived by rape]], rape]]]], but in the others' cases it isn't clear why.
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* ''Film/BornInTheMaelstrom'': The community does not have any men, so the childrens' fathers aren't involved with their lives. In the case of Rebecca, this is because she'd been [[spoiler:[[ChildByRape conceived by rape]], but in the others' cases it isn't clear why.
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* Fishgirls [[Characters/EnnuiGoFishgirls Fishgirls]] in ''Webcomic/EnnuiGo'' are an all-female race that require human men in order to reproduce, though the fact that they can only stay out of the water for a few hours at a time means that they usually only have sex for the purpose of having a kid and then leave the guy behind. The few exceptions that we do see are either chimeras (who can only survive on land due to a genetic disorder), or used magic to turn themselves human.
