History Main / CommieNazis

* A racist who dubbed himself "God's True Prophet for the End of the World" sent mailings to media outlets in the early '90s which theorized that "Communist-Nazi Jews" were conspiring with blacks to exterminate "True White Christians."

** You Fail Philosophy Forever, while Marx was an economist and his theory sounded more scientifical than philosophical it is cateogrized as a theory of "political philosophy"; policies and political leanings do follow a philosophy, of course you can't be politically an existencialist, a spiritualist or an atomist, but politicaly you could be a marxist, a platonist, a machiavellian, an aristotelean, a collectivist, a totalitarianist, an anarchist, a monarchist, a republicanist, and so on

* To try and sound smart and avoid the dread C-word (which when invoked will immediately discredit them as paranoid McCarthyist relics from the ColdWar), pundits will try to use the term "Marxist" to describe policies and one's political leanings. This is also a WallBanger because you can't have a Marxist government or policy anymore than you can have existentialist policies or government. Marxism is a philosophy (an outdated one, what with socioeconomic stratification and unions, but still a philosophy nonetheless), not a political affiliation. Anyone who says otherwise fails socioeconomic history forever.

* To try and sound smart and avoid the dread C-word (which when invoked will immediately discredit them as paranoid McCarthyist relics from the ColdWar), pundits will try to use the term "Marxist" to describe policies and one's political leanings. This is also a WallBanger because you can't have a Marxist government or policy anymore than you can have existentialist policies or government. Marxism is a philosophy (an outdated one, what with socioeconomic stratification and unions, but still a philosophy nonetheless), not a political affiliation. Anyone who says otherwise fails socioeconomic history forever.

* The Party in ''NineteenEightyFour'' intentionally combined aspects of communism and Nazism, as well as socialist and fascist symbolism. Orwell was pretty politically knowledgeable, so this was not done out of ignorance.

** Originated from, where else, the SA forums. Once there was a "make german translations of image macros" thread and the second picture in the thread was a translation of that picture.

* From ''TheSimpsons'':
--> "This is [[TheAhnold [=McBane=],]] under attack by Commu-Nazis! I must get this shipment of UNICEF pennies to the children!"

* The {{Conservapedia}} article on Socialism is illustrated with a photo of Hitler -- well, they were called the National Socialist party, therefore all socialists are Nazis.

* This insult has become so popular in American politics, that it's no surprise to catch people (especially the tea party movement) calling Obama a "nazi hippie muslim Marxist" with a straight face. Which provoked [[http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/obama_nazi_communist_muslim_peace.jpg this macro]].
** Another piece of right-wing propaganda shows a picture of Obama standing at the head of a highway lined with security cameras with street signs saying "The Road to Fascism". Obama is standing with Hitler, Franco, Mussolini... [[WallBanger and Karl Marx and Stalin]].

** Of course Mussolini also wondered if Franklin Roosevelt was going Fascist in the New Deal (hear that? It's the sound of Glenn Beck wetting himself).
** Nazi newspapers have actually praised FDR's New Deal policies. Not trying to imply anything, but just saying...
** [[SarcasmMode Yes, because Roosevelt is Nazi-like for trying to keep the country from collapsing after all then-conventional economic measures had failed miserably and experimentation with new measures was necessary to keep the economy from collapsing further]], rather than for, say, Japanese Internment camps, which were actually morally questionable and resembled a despicable fascist policy, rather than a matter of economic philosophical disagreement that has been confused with a matter of morality by a mix of hyperbole and heat of the moment.
** I did say I wasn't implying anything. This is a textbook example of HitlerAteSugar. While I would disagree on the effectiveness of the New Deal, I just simply wanted to point out that while FDR was not a Nazi, Nazi newspapers did praise his economic policies, meaning this trope is closer to RealLife than you guys think.

* There is a historical school of thought that holds that Fascism and its offshoots were but a nationalist mutation of socialism, and thus Fascism and Communism were two sides of the same coin of authoritarian socialism (albeit with the former placing a higher emphasis on the "nationalism" part and being quite comfortable aligning with right-wing nationalists like Franco, Horthy, and the Japanese Empire). While '''a LOT''' of people in said school are in it purely to [[StrawmanPolitical score political points on the Right]], one could make a fairly complete and relatively valid argument for it). [[InternetBackdraft And let's leave it at that, shall we?]]
** No, the reason people say that is because "IT'S CALLED NATIONAL ''SOCIALISM'' HURR DURR", not any intellectual argument. Mussolini founded the fascist party to be an antithesis to Marxism. ''In his own words''. End of story.
** And Hitler also described the Nazi party as "socialist" "in his own words". The thing is, Communism and Nazism/Fascism are two sides of the same coin (they both are statist ideologies). Hell, the only real difference between the Soviets and the Nazis is who they discriminated against. For the Nazis, it was "non-Aryans". For the Soviets, it was "counter-revolutionaries". The same can be said of American politics. While the Democrats and the Republicans are against each other in terms of politics, they all still believe (hopefully) in core American values like Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. The true anti-thesis of Communism would be Libertarianism/Objectivism.
*** Though, it turns out that Objectivism is also the anti-thesis of Fascism, as well. Mussolini was okay with ''We the Living'' (created by AynRand, an extreme anti-Communist), until the Fascists figured out that the film was also anti-Fascist as well. It was [[BannedInChina promptly banned]].
*** Dead wrong: Hitler despised socialism and expressed his regret that the Nazi party had ever been associated with it in the first place.
*** DidNotDoTheResearch, and it's becoming an EditWar as well, Hitler despised Marxism, the particular manifestation of Marxism in the USSR (He hated the Slavic people, and he rejected the "Internationalism" part of Marxism, 'cause he was a Nationalist after all). Hitler embraced socialism and many of his policies are socialist in nature as well (Which is why one joke against Socialists is "If you remove the bits about race, what part of the Nazi platform to you '''not''' agree with?"). In the end, the Nazis and the Communists were two sides of the same coin, not two completely opposite ideologies. The completely opposite ideology of Communism is Libertarianism.

*** DidNotDoTheResearch, and it's becoming an EditWar as well, Hitler despised Marxism, the particular manifestation of Marxism in the USSR (He hated the Slavic people, and he rejected the "Internationalism" part of Marxism, 'cause he was a Nationalist after all). Hitler embraced socialism and many of his policies are socialist in nature as well (Which is why one joke against Socialists is "If you remove the bits about race, what part of the Nazi platform to you '''not''' agree with?". In the end, the Nazis and the Communists were two sides of the same coin, not two completely opposite ideologies.

*** DidNotDoTheRearch, and it's becoming an EditWar as well, Hitler despised Marxism, the particular manifestation of Marxism in the USSR (He hated the Slavic people, and he rejected the "Internationalism" part of Marxism, 'cause he was a Nationalist after all). Hitler embraced socialism and many of his policies are socialist in nature as well (Which is why one joke against Socialists is "If you remove the bits about race, what part of the Nazi platform to you '''not''' agree with?". In the end, the Nazis and the Communists were two sides of the same coin, not two completely opposite ideologies.

** [[SarcasmMode Yes, because Roosevelt is Nazi-like for trying to keep the country from collapsing after all then-conventional economic measures had failed miserably and experimentation with new measures was necessary to keep the economy from collapsing further]], rather than for, say, Japanese Internment camps, which were actually morally questionable rather than a matter of economic philosophical disagreement that has been confused with a matter of morality by a mix of hyperbole and heat of the moment.

** This insult has become so popular in American politics, that it's no surprise to catch people (especially the tea party movement) calling Obama a "nazi hippie muslim Marxist" with a straight face. Which provoked [[http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/obama_nazi_communist_muslim_peace.jpg this macro]].
*** Another piece of right-wing propaganda shows a picture of Obama standing at the head of a highway lined with security cameras with street signs saying "The Road to Fascism". Obama is standing with Hitler, Franco, Mussolini... [[WallBanger and Karl Marx and Stalin]].

* Both "communist" and "nazi" are very common insults in American politics, often used with little understanding of how the policy being referred to as such would be viewed under either school of thought. As a result, it is common for the same policy (or politics-related-person) to be accused of being both, usually to an effect that is an even mix of aggravating and hilarious to anyone who has any idea what communism and nazism actually ''espouse''.
* There is a historical school of thought that holds that Fascism and its offshoots were but a nationalist mutation of socialism, and thus Fascism and Communism were two sides of the same coin of authoritarian socialism (albeit with the former placing a higher emphasis on the "nationalism" part and being quite comfortable aligning with right-wing nationalists like Franco, Horthy, and the Japanese Empire). While '''a LOT''' of people in said school are in it purely to [[StrawmanPolitical score political points on the Left]], one could make a fairly complete and relatively valid argument for it). [[InternetBackdraft And let's leave it at that, shall we?]]

** Of course Mussolini also wondered if Franklin Roosevelt was going Fascist in the New Deal (hear that? It's the sound of Glen Beck wetting himself).

* Rocky and Bullwinkle: In the evil country of Potsylvania everyone is either a communist or a Nazi or both. However this is mostly played for laughs.

* Rocky and Bullwinkle In the evil country of Potsylvania everyone is either a communist or a Nazi or both. However this is mostly played for laughs.

* [[http://www.bureaucrashcontraband.com/index.html]][[http://www.bureaucrashcontraband.com/faisforcotee.html]] "Fascism is for commies!"? Good on a t-shirt, but [[YouFailHistoryForever historically inacurrate.]]