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* There are carnivorous [[strike: unicorns]] "Alicorns" (also called "One-Horns", but guess what unicorn means) in the ''Elvenbane'' series as well. And some of the main characters are shapeshifting superintelligent dragons who are, in some details, [[OurDragonsAreDifferent quite different]].

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* There are carnivorous [[strike: unicorns]] "Alicorns" (also called "One-Horns", but guess what unicorn means) in the ''Elvenbane'' series as well. And some Possibly a case of Call A Rabbit a Lapin, as ''licorne'' is [[GratuitousFrench French]] for unicorn. [[hottip:*:Linguistic Geekery Moment: Probably because the French took "unicorn" and heard it as "une icorne", then later people heard "l'icorne" and thought the word was "licorne".]]
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* There are carnivorous [[strike: unicorns]] "Alicorns" (also called "One-Horns", but guess what unicorn means) in the ''Elvenbane'' series as well. And some of the main characters are mammalian shapeshifting superintelligent "dragons".
** Mammalian dragons aren't all that far off from the legends, actually; the "absolutely definitely a reptile" thing is a more recent invention. Most of the mythical dragons had ''a lot'' of mammalian features if you think about it--manes/whiskers/beards, bat-like wings, and sometimes even milk--and they apparently liked to live in the northern parts of Europe which are way too cold for large reptiles.

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* There are carnivorous [[strike: unicorns]] "Alicorns" (also called "One-Horns", but guess what unicorn means) in the ''Elvenbane'' series as well. And some of the main characters are mammalian shapeshifting superintelligent "dragons".
** Mammalian
dragons aren't all that far off from the legends, actually; the "absolutely definitely a reptile" thing is a more recent invention. Most of the mythical dragons had ''a lot'' of mammalian features if you think about it--manes/whiskers/beards, bat-like wings, and sometimes even milk--and they apparently liked to live who are, in the northern parts of Europe which are way too cold for large reptiles.
some details, [[OurDragonsAreDifferent quite different]].
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* There are carnivorous unicorns (more often called "One-Horns", but guess what unicorn means) in the ''Elvenbane'' series as well. And some of the main characters are mammalian shapeshifting superintelligent "dragons".

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* There are carnivorous unicorns (more often [[strike: unicorns]] "Alicorns" (also called "One-Horns", but guess what unicorn means) in the ''Elvenbane'' series as well. And some of the main characters are mammalian shapeshifting superintelligent "dragons".
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I can\'t find any evidence that the modern definition was ever not used, so this one doesn\'t really count as a \"mistake\"


* In recent years series such as HerculestheLegendaryJourneys, XenaWarriorPrincess, and the PercyJackson books and movie, have consistently referred to persons with mixed human and divine heritage as ''Demigods''. The classical use of Demigod was for a minor deity, such as Pan, or "small Gods", such as those associated with a single river, forest or household. The proper term for a half-God? ''Hero.'' Linguistic shift has given the word a somewhat different meaning in modern English, but that doesn't make the misuse of "Demigod" right.

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* In recent years series such as HerculestheLegendaryJourneys, XenaWarriorPrincess, and the PercyJackson books and movie, have consistently referred to persons with mixed human and divine heritage as ''Demigods''. The classical use of Demigod was for a minor deity, such as Pan, or "small Gods", such as those associated with a single river, forest or household. The proper term for a half-God? ''Hero.'' Linguistic shift has given the word a somewhat different meaning in modern English, but that doesn't make the misuse of "Demigod" right.
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* The Kraken from ''ClashOfTheTitans'' isn't the giant squid or crab monster of Scandinavian myth, but some kind of gigantic pseudo-Greek mermonster.

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* The Kraken from ''ClashOfTheTitans'' isn't the giant squid or crab monster of Scandinavian myth, but some kind of gigantic pseudo-Greek mermonster. In the original mythology, the sea monster that was going to destroy the city of Argos (unless they sacrificed Princess Andromeda) was called Cetus.
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** The use of the name "gorgon" for a bull-like creature comes from a particular medieval bestiary, which used that name for the catoblepas as a reference to the whole "kill with a glance" thing.
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*** The original pooka was known for transforming into a large black horse that would give anyone foolish enough to mount it a terrifying ride, which is probably the origin for that bit of lore.
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** Actually Pliny the Elder mentioned Pegasi living in Aegypt. So the idea of numbers of Winged Horses existing is Older than Radio and even Older that the Printing Press.
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** In ''TheOffice,'' Jim refers to telekinesis as "mind control." Because, presumably, he's controlling objects with his mind.
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* ''CardCaptorSakura'' has Cerberus. aka Keroberos, aka Kero-chan. His true form being a lion with wings, he looks ''nothing'' like a three-headed dog from Greek Mythology. He more resembles a griffin; or the [[ArsGoetia Demon Prince Vapula.]]

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* ''CardCaptorSakura'' has Cerberus. aka Keroberos, aka Kero-chan. His true form being a lion with wings, he looks ''nothing'' like a three-headed dog from Greek Mythology. He more resembles a griffin; or griffin... [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar or]] the [[ArsGoetia Demon Prince Vapula.]]
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** Mammalian dragons aren't all that far off from the legends, actually; the "absolutely definitely a reptile" thing is a more recent invention. Most of the mythical dragons had ''a lot'' of mammalian features if you think about it--manes/whiskers/beards, bat-like wings, and sometimes even milk--and they apparently liked to live in the northern parts of Europe which are way too cold for large reptiles.
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* In recent years series such as HerculestheLegendaryJourneys, XenaWarriorPrincess, and the PercyJackson books and movie, refer to persons with mixed human and divine heritage as ''Demigods''. The classical use of Demigod was for a minor deity, such as Pan, or "small Gods", such as those associated with a single river, forest or household. The proper term for a half-God? ''Hero.'' Linguistic shift has given the word a somewhat different meaning in modern English, but that doesn't make the misuse of "Demigod" right.

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* In recent years series such as HerculestheLegendaryJourneys, XenaWarriorPrincess, and the PercyJackson books and movie, refer have consistently referred to persons with mixed human and divine heritage as ''Demigods''. The classical use of Demigod was for a minor deity, such as Pan, or "small Gods", such as those associated with a single river, forest or household. The proper term for a half-God? ''Hero.'' Linguistic shift has given the word a somewhat different meaning in modern English, but that doesn't make the misuse of "Demigod" right.
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*In recent years series such as HerculestheLegendaryJourneys, XenaWarriorPrincess, and the PercyJackson books and movie, refer to persons with mixed human and divine heritage as ''Demigods''. The classical use of Demigod was for a minor deity, such as Pan, or "small Gods", such as those associated with a single river, forest or household. The proper term for a half-God? ''Hero.'' Linguistic shift has given the word a somewhat different meaning in modern English, but that doesn't make the misuse of "Demigod" right.
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But the Harry Potter Hippogriffs *are* hippogryphs, so...


** HarryPotter had hippogriffs, too.

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* Similarly, [[TheSandman Dream]] has three guardian beasts, one of which is a winged horse. This character is also identified as a hippogriff. Given that [[ViewersAreGeniuses this is Neil Gaiman writing]], it's likely an E. Nesbit tribute. Also, the dragon is called a wyvern.
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* Similarly, [[TheSandman Dream]] has three guardian beasts, one of which is a winged horse. This character is also identified as a hippogriff. Given that [[ViewersAreGeniuses this is Neil Gaiman writing]], it's likely an E. Nesbit tribute. Also, the dragon is called a wyvern. \n** HarryPotter had hippogriffs too.


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** HarryPotter had hippogriffs, too.
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** HarryPotter had hippogriffs too.
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Compare IstanbulNotConstantinople, which is similar but for place names. Title is a takeoff of Call A Rabbit A Smeerp, of course, and is a reference to one of the best-known...

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Compare IstanbulNotConstantinople, which is similar but for place names. Contrast to AKindOfOne when it's not names that are confused but amounts. Title is a takeoff of Call A Rabbit A Smeerp, of course, and is a reference to one of the best-known...
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* In David Weber's ''{{Safehold}}'' books, the humans who have settled on the planet Safehold have named many local animals after mythical beasts. Examples include the kraken (described as a cross between a squid and a shark, fitting the latter's place in Safeholdian ecology), the [[OurDragonsAreDifferent dragon]] (a massive, six-legged animal that comes in both carnivorous and herbivorous varieties), and the wyvern (''four''-winged flyers that are the Safeholdian analogue of birds).
* [[HellsGate Arcana]] has "{{Unicorns}}," which resemble the usual image of unicorns only in that they have a single horn and are roughly horse-sized and shaped. They are black, with disproportionately long legs, powerful hindquarters, and ears like a bobcat -- and possess a mouthful of long tusks and sharp, carnivorous teeth.
* There are carnivorous unicorns (more often called "One-Horns", but guess what unicorn means) in the ''Elvenbane'' series as well. And some of the main characters are mammalian shapeshifting superintelligent "dragons".
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* ''CardCaptorSakura'' has Cerberus. aka Keroberos, aka Kero-chan. His true form being a lion with wings, he looks ''nothing'' like a three-headed dog from Greek Mythology. He more resembles a griffin; or the [[ArsGoetia Demon Prince Vapula.]]
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** It is even much older - in the old North Germanic languages, "orm" could mean a snake, a worm or a dragon by modern English terms.
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** A wyvern is actually a type of dragon - problem is, wyverns have two legs, whereas Dream's wyvern has four - possibly Neil knew what he was talking about but none of the artists did.
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** Cerberus is described as having snakes in its back instead of hair in some versions of the myth so they did not do research or had critical research failure...

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* JRRTolkien was fond of using "worm," the Middle and Modern English cognate of Old English "wyrm", to mean "dragon" or "serpent". "Worm" in the sense of "dragon" is attested as late as the mid-19th century in Northern English, as in the ballads of the Lambton Worm and the Laidly Worm, so the Good Professor wasn't just making it up as he went along.

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* JRRTolkien was fond of using "worm," the Middle and Modern English cognate of Old English "wyrm", to mean "dragon" or "serpent". "Worm" in the sense of "dragon" is attested as late as the mid-19th century in Northern English, as in the ballads of the Lambton Worm and the Laidly Worm, so the Good Professor wasn't just making it up as he went along.
* Although she never appears in the stories in person, it's made pretty clear that [[HPLovecraft H.P. Lovecraft's]] Mother Hydra has nothing to do with the Hydra of the Greek myth.
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* One of the stranger examples is in the book ''Thorn Ogres of Hagwood''. A character wanders into the action about halfway through the story. He is a short humanoid with a big, big beard and he carries a lot of different tools and has a great talent for metalwork. He is [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame identified as a dwa...]] no, wait, he is a Pooka. Uh... ([[TricksterMentor Pookas]] technically can [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith appear as dwarves]] but -as you'll recall from ''[[TheHarvey Harvey]]'', they also tend to be a lot weirder.)

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* One of the stranger examples is in the book ''Thorn Ogres of Hagwood''. A character wanders into the action about halfway through the story. He is a short humanoid with a big, big beard and he carries a lot of different tools and has a great talent for metalwork. He is [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame identified as a dwa...]] no, wait, he is a Pooka. Uh... ([[TricksterMentor [[TricksterMentor Pookas]] technically can [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith appear as dwarves]] but -as you'll but, as you may recall from ''[[TheHarvey Harvey]]'', ''{{Harvey}}'', they also tend to be a lot weirder.)
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* JRRTolkien was fond of using "worm," the Middle and Modern English cognate of Old English "wyrm", to mean "dragon" or "serpent". "Worm" in the sense of "dragon" is attested as late as the mid-19th century in Northern English, as in the ballads of the Lambton Worm and the Laidly Worm.

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* JRRTolkien was fond of using "worm," the Middle and Modern English cognate of Old English "wyrm", to mean "dragon" or "serpent". "Worm" in the sense of "dragon" is attested as late as the mid-19th century in Northern English, as in the ballads of the Lambton Worm and the Laidly Worm.Worm, so the Good Professor wasn't just making it up as he went along.

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** Actually, it's more accurately a [[OurDragonsAreDifferent wyvern or wyrm]] , as it has only two legs

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** Actually, it's more accurately a [[OurDragonsAreDifferent wyvern or wyrm]] , as it has only two legs:
-->It had a large head, with enormous open mouth and savage teeth; from its back arose great wings, armed with sharp hooks and prongs; it had stout
legs in front, with projecting claws; but there were no legs behind,--the body running out into a long and powerful tail, finished off at the end with a barbed point. This tail was coiled up under him, the end sticking up just back of his wings. [[hottip:*: Oddly enough, though, in a later passage, "The monster had just awakened, and rising to his fore-legs and shaking himself, he said that he was ready to go into the town." It has fore-legs and no hind-legs?]]
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* The Kraken from ''ClashOfTheTitans'' isn't the giant squid monster of Scandinavian myth, but some kind of gigantic pseudo-Greek mermonster.

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* The Kraken from ''ClashOfTheTitans'' isn't the giant squid or crab monster of Scandinavian myth, but some kind of gigantic pseudo-Greek mermonster.



* JRRTolkien was fond of using "worm" as a synonym for "dragon", owing to both words having originated from ancient terms for "serpent". Possibly he was confusing or conflating (or spelling different) the word "wyrm", which can mean "dragon" or "serpent".

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* JRRTolkien was fond of using "worm" as a synonym for "dragon", owing to both words having originated from ancient terms for "serpent". Possibly he was confusing or conflating (or spelling different) "worm," the word Middle and Modern English cognate of Old English "wyrm", which can to mean "dragon" or "serpent"."serpent". "Worm" in the sense of "dragon" is attested as late as the mid-19th century in Northern English, as in the ballads of the Lambton Worm and the Laidly Worm.
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* JRRTolkien was fond of using "worm" as a synonym for "dragon", owing to both words having originated from ancient terms for "serpent".

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* JRRTolkien was fond of using "worm" as a synonym for "dragon", owing to both words having originated from ancient terms for "serpent". Possibly he was confusing or conflating (or spelling different) the word "wyrm", which can mean "dragon" or "serpent".
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** Actually, it's more accurately a [[OurDragonsAreDifferent wyvern or wyrm]] , as it has only two legs
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* In ''Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow'', the Cockatrice and the Basilisk are pretty much palette swaps, although they are completely separate critters. Most of the time.

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* In ''Castlevania: ''{{Castlevania Aria of Sorrow'', Sorrow}}'', the Cockatrice and the Basilisk are pretty much palette swaps, although they are completely separate critters. Most of the time.

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