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* Black Mask in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood''. He's actually pretty competent, but becomes the UnwittingPawn in Red Hood's scheme to get hold of [[AxeCrazy the Joker]] and [[spoiler:try to force Batman [[SadisticChoice to kill the Joker]].]] Worse, when Black Mask frees the Joker (under duress), [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder the Joker]] has Black Mask and [[TheDragon Ms. Li]] captured alongside all the other heads of Gotham's mob!
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Goblins}}'', Dellyn Goblinslayer fantasized about becoming a fixture of goblin folklore, their hereditary enemy slain by Thaco in a story told for generations. Thaco refused to kill Dellyn, denying him any form of lasting fame as a final insult.
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Mystara}}'': King Thar rules [[{{Mordor}} the Broken Lands]], having uniffied Orcs, Goblinoids, Trolls, Gnolls, Kobolds and Ogres under his command and dreams of nothing more than to lead TheHorde to RapePillageAndBurn every nation he sees. Too bad he's the ultimate case of VileVillainLaughableLackey, whose subordinates are a bunch of buffoons in charge of even bigger buffoons. As a result, in big storylines like ''Wrath of the Immortals',' he tends to be DemotedToDragon to villains who command more competent forces.
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There are also many ways of revealing the villain is an over-inflated threat. A school bully [[DirtyCoward might run from a real fight]]. In the second example, WorfHadTheFlu — an unfair circumstance gave the villain the early victory. Sometimes it's just a matter of scale; the heroes catch a murderer, but just a copycat, not the ''real'' mastermind serial killer they were thought to be. Alternatively, the real Big Bad might prove they are EvilerThanThou as they [[OutGambitted outdo the wannabe]], or even kill the wannabe. Those that fall under this trope are also extremely vulnerable to PretenderDiss, both from actual {{Big Bad}}s and their enemies. Sometimes they may be a DiscOneFinalBoss, but in other cases, it’s made clear early on that there is a bigger threat lurking around.

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There are also many ways of revealing the villain is an over-inflated threat. A school bully [[DirtyCoward might run from a real fight]]. In the second example, WorfHadTheFlu — an unfair circumstance gave the villain the early victory. Sometimes it's just a matter of scale; the heroes catch a murderer, but just a copycat, not the ''real'' mastermind serial killer they were thought to be. Alternatively, the real Big Bad might prove they are EvilerThanThou as they [[OutGambitted outdo the wannabe]], or even kill the wannabe. Those that fall under this trope are also extremely vulnerable to PretenderDiss, both from actual {{Big Bad}}s and their enemies. Sometimes they may be a DiscOneFinalBoss, but in other cases, it’s made clear early on that there is a bigger threat lurking around.
around. It’s also possible that they could be pawns for TheManBehindTheMan, and not even realize it.
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The Big Bad Wannabe is a villain who fashions themselves as a significant threat but can't back it up when it comes to the crunch. The actual level of menace varies widely, from an IneffectualSympatheticVillain having a good day, to a villain who ''[[OvershadowedByAwesome could]]'' [[OvershadowedByAwesome legitimately be the]] BigBad if the real Big Bad wasn't even more badass than they are, but within a story they are (initially) presented as a big deal.

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The Big Bad Wannabe is a villain who fashions themselves as a significant threat but can't back it up when it comes to the crunch. The actual level of menace varies widely, from an IneffectualSympatheticVillain having a good day, to a villain who ''[[OvershadowedByAwesome could]]'' [[OvershadowedByAwesome legitimately be the]] the BigBad if the real Big Bad wasn't even more badass than they are, but within a story they are (initially) presented as a big deal.
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[HumanoidAbomination Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus]] [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[HumanoidAbomination Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus]] [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[HumanoidAbomination Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus]] [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[HumanoidAbomination Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.
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** The Meddling Monk — the Doctor's first Time Lord enemy — tends to come across as this; he likes to consider himself the "hero", rebelling against Time Lord society to make history better according to his own views while dismissing the Doctor as a fool at best and a hypocrite at worst, but his efforts to supplant the Doctor always fail. The Monk's most elaborate scheme — ''Blood Heat'' to ''No Future'' — simply creates an alternate timeline where the Doctor died, rather than killing the Doctor in his own past, and while the Monk claims that his later plans were always intended to just distract the Doctor from his main scheme, he is finally tricked and defeated by the Doctor's companion Ace. When the Monk's return in the Eighth Doctor audios sees him [[spoiler:make a deal with the ''Daleks'', he is genuinely shocked when the Daleks betray him, spending time weeping about the death of his companion.]] The Monk goes on to try and [[spoiler:take the Doctor's place in history after convincing himself that the Doctor was the reason everything went wrong, but even when he succeeds after tricking the Fifth Doctor into changing history in "The Secret History", the Monk's former ally looks into the future and realizes that history is worse with the Monk's active interference than it would be with the Doctor's more benevolent, hidden assistance]].

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** The Meddling Monk — the Doctor's first Time Lord enemy — tends to come across as this; he likes to consider himself the "hero", rebelling against Time Lord society to make history better according to his own views while dismissing the Doctor as a fool at best and a hypocrite at worst, but his efforts to supplant the Doctor always fail. The Monk's most elaborate scheme — ''Blood Heat'' to ''No Future'' — simply creates an alternate timeline where the Doctor died, rather than killing the Doctor in his own past, and while the Monk claims that his later plans were always intended to just distract the Doctor from his main scheme, he is finally tricked and defeated by the Doctor's companion Ace.fail. When the Monk's return in the Eighth Doctor audios sees him [[spoiler:make a deal with the ''Daleks'', he is genuinely shocked when the Daleks betray him, spending time weeping about the death of his companion.]] The Monk goes on to try and [[spoiler:take the Doctor's place in history after convincing himself that the Doctor was the reason everything went wrong, but even when he succeeds after tricking the Fifth Doctor into changing history in "The Secret History", the Monk's former ally looks into the future and realizes that history is worse with the Monk's active interference than it would be with the Doctor's more benevolent, hidden assistance]].
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** The Meddling Monk — the Doctor's first Time Lord enemy — tends to come across as this; he likes to consider himself the "hero", rebelling against Time Lord society to make history better according to his own views while dismissing the Doctor as a fool at best and a hypocrite at worst, but his efforts to supplant the Doctor always fail. The Monk's most elaborate scheme — ''Blood Heat'' to ''No Future'' — simply creates an alternate timeline where the Doctor died, rather than killing the Doctor in his own past, and while the Monk claims that his later plans were always intended to just distract the Doctor from his main scheme, he is finally tricked and defeated by the Doctor's companion Ace. When the Monk's return in the Eighth Doctor audios sees him [[spoiler:make a deal with the ''Daleks'', he is genuinely shocked when the Daleks betray him, spending time weeping about the death of his companion.]] The Monk goes on to try and [[spoiler:take the Doctor's place in history after convincing himself that the Doctor was the reason everything went wrong, but even when he succeeds after tricking the Fifth Doctor into changing history in "The Secret History", the Monk's former ally looks into the future and realizes that history is worse with the Monk's active interference than it would be with the Doctor's more benevolent, hidden assistance]].
** The Time Lord criminal known as 'the Eleven' was described at least once by the Doctor as being potentially more dangerous than the Master because his own criminal actions are committed ForTheEvulz rather than because he has a clear plan and long-term agenda. However, in "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoNEDASRavenous4E3DayOfTheMaster Day of the Master]]", [[spoiler:when the Eleven offers an alliance between himself and three different incarnations of the Master as the Doctor's two greatest arch-enemies, the three Masters shoot the Eleven and throw him out of the TARDIS, dismissing the idea that a lunatic like the Eleven could be the Doctor's other greatest arch-enemy]].
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[HumanoidAbomination Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus]] [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[HumanoidAbomination Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[BigBad Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[BigBad [[HumanoidAbomination Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.
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* Sir Pentious in ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' thinks of himself as a legitimate challenger for the rule of Hell, but while he is dangerous, he's really just another gangster fighting for territory. When he goes up against Alastor, one of the ''real'' powers in Hell, he's handed a swift and humiliating defeat. Alastor doesn't even know his name.

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* Sir Pentious in ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' thinks of himself as a legitimate challenger for the rule of Hell, but while he is dangerous, he's really just another gangster fighting for territory. When he goes up against Alastor, one of the ''real'' powers in Hell, he's handed a swift and humiliating defeat. And to add insult to injury, Alastor doesn't even know his name.
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* Sir Pentious in ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'' thinks of himself as a legitimate challenger for the rule of Hell, but while he is dangerous, he's really just another gangster fighting for territory. When he goes up against Alastor, one of the ''real'' powers in Hell, he's handed a swift and humiliating defeat. Alastor doesn't even know his name.

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* Sir Pentious in ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'' ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' thinks of himself as a legitimate challenger for the rule of Hell, but while he is dangerous, he's really just another gangster fighting for territory. When he goes up against Alastor, one of the ''real'' powers in Hell, he's handed a swift and humiliating defeat. Alastor doesn't even know his name.

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* ''WebComic/DarthsAndDroids'': In the "Revelation of the Sith" campaign -- based on ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''[[note]]in this universe, ''Franchise/StarWars'' doesn't exist other than as a series of TabletopRPG campaigns played by a group of gamers[[/note]] -- the GameMaster had planned General Grievous and Nute Gunray as major villains, but this changes when the players take the plot OffTheRails. Ben, playing Obi-Wan Kenobi, insists on going after Grievous early and manages to kill him solo, prompting the GM to make a funeral pyre for Grievous's character sheet and extensive plot development notes. As for Gunray, the players never take the hint to go deal with him until they have changed the plot to the point that he's become insignificant enough to be easily killed, overshadowed by the real villain, [[spoiler: the PlayerCharacter Anakin Skywalker.]]
** Possibly subverted with [[spoiler:the "The Enemy Let Slip" campaign (based on ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'') revealing that Gunray actually survived as a computer virus, becoming quasi-immortal in the process. By the time of "The Forced Away Kin" (based on ''Film/TheForceAwakens''), he's the GreaterScopeVillain commanding the First Order, with Snoke and Kylo Ren as his minions. Time will tell if he's more of a threat this time around.]]

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In the "Revelation of the Sith" campaign -- based on ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''[[note]]in this universe, ''Franchise/StarWars'' doesn't exist other than as a series of TabletopRPG campaigns played by a group of gamers[[/note]] -- the GameMaster had planned General Grievous and Nute Gunray as major villains, but this changes when the players take the plot OffTheRails. Ben, playing Obi-Wan Kenobi, insists on going after Grievous early and manages to kill him solo, prompting the GM to make a funeral pyre for Grievous's character sheet and extensive plot development notes. As for Gunray, the players never take the hint to go deal with him until they have changed the plot to the point that he's become insignificant enough to be easily killed, overshadowed by the real villain, [[spoiler: the PlayerCharacter Anakin Skywalker.]]
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* ''WebVideo/SMPLive'': Schlatt prides himself on being a brilliant scammer and a CorruptCorporateExecutive, when in actuality he tends to be more of a mild nuisance to other players. His schemes often backfire hilariously, and to most he comes off as more of an incompetent grifter than a dangerous conman.
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[BigBad Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[ANaziByAnyOtherName [[Characters/RWBYAdamTaurus Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and millennia-old [[BigBad Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'': After being ousted from the restaurant when Linguini claims his inheritance, Skinner is reduced to a minor nuisance compared to the real threat to Linguini's rising success: Anton Ego. While Skinner does lay the foundation for the restaurant's eventual closing (namely calling in a health inspector) and even traps Remy with plans to force the rat chef into becoming his business partner, the real climax is Rémy cooking up to Anton's standard and proving him wrong on his disdain for Gusteau's philosophy; Rémy's rat family even ensures that Skinner's attempts to sabotage these efforts are thwarted quickly and the health inspector's work to bring the apparent rat infestation to the attention of the appropriate people is delayed long enough for Remy to help Linguini in his work at cooking up a meal that fits Anton's standard.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'': After When first introduced, Skinner initially comes across as a major antagonistic figure for the film by both being visibly less than amused to have Linguini around as a staff member at Gusteau's and also one of the very first staff members there to order for Rémy to be disposed of upon first catching sight of him at the restaurant while also consistently making efforts at getting Linguini removed from the restaurant and Rémy exposed under the belief that Linguini is trying to pull a fast one on him involving the rat. But after being ousted from the restaurant when as a result of Linguini claims [[spoiler:discovering the truth about his being Gusteau's son and subsequently]] claiming his inheritance, Skinner is reduced to a minor nuisance compared to the real threat to Linguini's rising success: Anton Ego. While Skinner does lay the foundation for the restaurant's eventual closing (namely calling in a health inspector) and even traps Remy with plans to force the rat chef into becoming his business partner, the real climax is Rémy cooking up to Anton's standard and proving him wrong on his disdain for Gusteau's philosophy; Rémy's rat family even ensures that Skinner's attempts to sabotage these efforts are thwarted quickly and the health inspector's work to bring the apparent rat infestation to the attention of the appropriate people is delayed long enough for Remy to help Linguini in his work at cooking up a meal that fits Anton's standard.
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and centuries-old [[BigBad Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and centuries-old millennia-old [[BigBad Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'': After being ousted from the restaurant when Linguini claims his inheritance, Skinner is reduced to a minor nuisance compared to the real threat to Linguini's rising success: Anton Ego. While Skinner does lay the foundation for the restaurant's eventual closing (namely calling in a health inspector) and even traps Remy with plans to force the rat chef into becoming his business partner, the real climax is Rémy cooking up to Anton's standard and proving him wrong on his disdain for Gusteau's philosophy; Rémy's rat family even ensures that Skinner's attempts to sabotage are thwarted quickly.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'': After being ousted from the restaurant when Linguini claims his inheritance, Skinner is reduced to a minor nuisance compared to the real threat to Linguini's rising success: Anton Ego. While Skinner does lay the foundation for the restaurant's eventual closing (namely calling in a health inspector) and even traps Remy with plans to force the rat chef into becoming his business partner, the real climax is Rémy cooking up to Anton's standard and proving him wrong on his disdain for Gusteau's philosophy; Rémy's rat family even ensures that Skinner's attempts to sabotage these efforts are thwarted quickly.quickly and the health inspector's work to bring the apparent rat infestation to the attention of the appropriate people is delayed long enough for Remy to help Linguini in his work at cooking up a meal that fits Anton's standard.
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Considering how Black Mask himself isn't actually gagged (unlike literally ALL the other mobsters imprisoned alongside him), I figured I'd alter this a bit to be somewhat less misleading.


* Black Mask in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood''. He's actually pretty competent, but becomes the UnwittingPawn in Red Hood's scheme to get hold of [[AxeCrazy the Joker]] and [[spoiler:try to force Batman [[SadisticChoice to kill the Joker]].]] Worse, when Black Mask frees the Joker (under duress), [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder the Joker]] has Black Mask and [[TheDragon Ms. Li]] BoundAndGagged!

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* Black Mask in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood''. He's actually pretty competent, but becomes the UnwittingPawn in Red Hood's scheme to get hold of [[AxeCrazy the Joker]] and [[spoiler:try to force Batman [[SadisticChoice to kill the Joker]].]] Worse, when Black Mask frees the Joker (under duress), [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder the Joker]] has Black Mask and [[TheDragon Ms. Li]] BoundAndGagged!captured alongside all the other heads of Gotham's mob!
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Contrast with TeamRocketWins. Compare with SmugSnake vs TheChessmaster or MagnificentBastard, and TheStarscream. See also DragonInChief. See also NotSoHarmlessVillain for when the wannabe ''actually'' is more dangerous than they appear. Subtrope of PaperTiger.

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Contrast with TeamRocketWins. Compare with SmugSnake vs TheChessmaster or MagnificentBastard, and TheStarscream. See also DragonInChief. Compare and contrast with HeroicWannabe (A character that desires to be a hero, but lacks the mindset or resources to be one). See also NotSoHarmlessVillain for when the wannabe ''actually'' is more dangerous than they appear. Subtrope of PaperTiger.
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* As far as Blog/DasSporking is concerned, any villain of [[SturgeonsLaw bad fanfiction]] is this trope irrespective of how threatening the narrative [[ShowDontTell claims them to be]], and this is true of both [[OriginalCharacter original]] and [[AdaptationalWimp canon]] characters. No amount of CharacterShilling can nullify PlotInducedStupidity, after all.

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* As far as Blog/DasSporking is concerned, any villain of [[SturgeonsLaw bad fanfiction]] is this trope irrespective of how threatening the narrative [[ShowDontTell claims them to be]], and this is true of both [[OriginalCharacter original]] and [[AdaptationalWimp canon]] characters. No amount of CharacterShilling can nullify PlotInducedStupidity, [[IdiotBall their idiocy]], after all.
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* As far as Blog/DasSporking is concerned, any villain of [[SturgeonsLaw bad fanfiction]] is this trope irrespective of how threatening the narrative [[ShowDontTell claims them to be]], and this is true of both [[OriginalCharacter original]] and [[AdaptationalWimp canon]] characters. No amount of CharacterShilling can nullify PlotInducedStupidity, after all.
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* ''WebVideo/ThePerfectCastlevaniaTimeline'': The segment about ''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaChroniclesOfSorrow Dawn of Sorrow]]'' presents Dario Bossi and Dmitrii Blinov in this way. Both of them believe they can out-perform [[AntiAntiChrist Soma Cruz]] as a Dark Lord candidate. [[spoiler:It ends with Dmitrii dead, Dario a fugitive from justice, and [[FallenHero Soma]] as Dracula incarnate.]]

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* ''WebVideo/ThePerfectCastlevaniaTimeline'': The segment about ''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaChroniclesOfSorrow Dawn of Sorrow]]'' ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaDawnOfSorrow'' presents Dario Bossi and Dmitrii Blinov in this way. Both of them believe they can out-perform [[AntiAntiChrist Soma Cruz]] as a Dark Lord candidate. [[spoiler:It ends with Dmitrii dead, Dario a fugitive from justice, and [[FallenHero Soma]] as Dracula incarnate.]]
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The Big Bad Wannabe is a villain who fashions themselves as a significant threat but can't back it up when it comes to the crunch. The absolute level of menace varies widely, from an IneffectualSympatheticVillain having a good day, to a villain who ''[[OvershadowedByAwesome could]]'' [[OvershadowedByAwesome legitimately be the]] BigBad if the real Big Bad wasn't even more badass than they are, but within a story they are (initially) presented as a big deal.

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The Big Bad Wannabe is a villain who fashions themselves as a significant threat but can't back it up when it comes to the crunch. The absolute actual level of menace varies widely, from an IneffectualSympatheticVillain having a good day, to a villain who ''[[OvershadowedByAwesome could]]'' [[OvershadowedByAwesome legitimately be the]] BigBad if the real Big Bad wasn't even more badass than they are, but within a story they are (initially) presented as a big deal.
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* The Duke of Weselton in ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'' fancies himself as the mastermind, planning to exploit Arendelle for its riches but is unable to hide his intentions. When Elsa runs away and causes the eternal winter, he tries to restore the kingdom [[PragmaticVillainy for his own benefit]]. He sends his two bodyguards on Prince Hans's rescue mission to kill Elsa, but Prince Hans saves her. Hans then proceeds to [[spoiler:frame Elsa's accidental freezing Anna's heart as intentional murder, leaves Anna to die and sentences Elsa to death, so he can claim the throne for himself]]. This turns the Duke into a complete non-entity.

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* The Duke of Weselton in ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'' fancies himself as the mastermind, planning to exploit Arendelle for its riches but is unable to hide his intentions. When Elsa runs away and causes the eternal winter, he tries to restore the kingdom [[PragmaticVillainy for his own benefit]]. He sends his two bodyguards on Prince Hans's rescue mission to kill Elsa, but Prince Hans saves her. Hans then proceeds to [[spoiler:frame Elsa's accidental freezing of Anna's heart as intentional murder, leaves Anna to die die, and sentences Elsa to death, so he can claim the throne for himself]]. This turns the Duke into a complete non-entity.



* This is a recurring problem for [[Wrestling/DeanAmbrose Jon Moxley]]. From thinking himself king of the Heartland Wrestling Association, even with member of his own "crew" gunning for his title, to assuming he could just walk step into NEWP and start running through the roster, to threats of arson on his first day at Wrestling/{{CZW}}, to blabbing about world take over schemes as if he was the undisputed leader of KAMIKAZE USA in Wrestling/DragonGate. His insistence on being "the baddest man on the planet" despite constant back up from the rest of Wrestling/TheShield shows not even WWE could beat this trait out of him.

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* This is a recurring problem for [[Wrestling/DeanAmbrose Jon Moxley]]. From thinking himself king of the Heartland Wrestling Association, even with member of his own "crew" gunning for his title, to assuming he could just walk step into NEWP and start running through the roster, to threats of arson on his first day at Wrestling/{{CZW}}, to blabbing about world take over schemes as if he was the undisputed leader of KAMIKAZE USA in Wrestling/DragonGate. His insistence on being "the baddest man on the planet" despite constant back up backup from the rest of Wrestling/TheShield shows not even WWE could beat this trait out of him.



* In ''[[WebAnimation/RedVsBlueTheRecollection Red vs. Blue: Revelation]]'', this is the role taken by Agent Washington. Determined to get out of jail no matter what, he turns evil, teams up with the Meta and goes on the hunt for the Epsilon AI. However, although he has a good start, he ends up getting his ass kicked by the Reds, and finds himself constantly bickering with the Meta and Doc. Ultimately, the Meta turns on him and Wash needs the Reds and Blues to fix things. Afterwards, he has a HeelFaceTurn and joins Blue Team.
* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder, and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and centuries-old [[BigBad Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.

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* In ''[[WebAnimation/RedVsBlueTheRecollection Red vs. Blue: Revelation]]'', this is the role taken by Agent Washington. Determined to get out of jail no matter what, he turns evil, teams up with the Meta Meta, and goes on the hunt for the Epsilon AI. However, although he has a good start, he ends up getting his ass kicked by the Reds, and finds himself constantly bickering with the Meta and Doc. Ultimately, the Meta turns on him and Wash needs the Reds and Blues to fix things. Afterwards, he has a HeelFaceTurn and joins Blue Team.
* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam Taurus]] has the incredibly lofty goal of [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] ruling the world, but his actual ability to implement that vision is lacking. In his first appearance outside of the trailers trailers, he's already been forced into a "partnership" with Cinder, Cinder and provides her with troops to do her dirty work for the first five volumes. His violent tendencies and shortsightedness lead to the Albain twins having to pick up the slack when it comes to strategy and public relations, his assassination attempt on the Belladonnas and cowardice at the Battle of Haven result in him losing all of his supporters, and that's not even mentioning how utterly insignificant of a threat he is compared to the immortal and centuries-old [[BigBad Salem]]. With no allies remaining, the once-feared revolutionary is reduced to single-mindedly stalking his former lover-turned-obsession, dying at the hands of Blake and Yang.



** Possibly subverted with [[spoiler:the "The Enemy Let Slip" campaign (based on on ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'') revealing that Gunray actually survived as a computer virus, becoming quasi-immortal in the process. By the time of "The Forced Away Kin" (based on ''Film/TheForceAwakens''), he's the GreaterScopeVillain commanding the First Order, with Snoke and Kylo Ren as his minions. Time will tell if he's more of a threat this time around.]]

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** Possibly subverted with [[spoiler:the "The Enemy Let Slip" campaign (based on on ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'') revealing that Gunray actually survived as a computer virus, becoming quasi-immortal in the process. By the time of "The Forced Away Kin" (based on ''Film/TheForceAwakens''), he's the GreaterScopeVillain commanding the First Order, with Snoke and Kylo Ren as his minions. Time will tell if he's more of a threat this time around.]]



** [[spoiler:Elan and Nale's father]] Tarquin truly believes he is the real BigBad, and that Xykon is just the end-goal of some minor sidequest, and that Elan, not Roy, is the main protagonist. In their final confrontation, [[spoiler:after Tarquin killed Nale (mainly because he was a distraction in the conflict between himself and Elan), Elan flat-out refused to fight, capture or engage with Tarquin in any way and just left him in the desert without any sort of climactic confrontation, which was [[CruelMercy probably the worst thing he could have done to him]]. Tarquin is left screaming after a departing Elan to come back and "finish the story".]] Even among his own party, Tarquin is not the leader. Neither Malack, Laurin, or Miron have any interest in doing what he says, they mostly just put up with it because Tarquin's narrative logic assists in their own personal motives, and is quite profitable to boot. He has to cajole and run on a system of favors in order to get them to do anything for him, and his military prowess is stated to come from elsewhere in the party. Even [[spoiler:Julio Scoundrél]] only considers him one of his "B-list villains".

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** [[spoiler:Elan and Nale's father]] Tarquin truly believes he is the real BigBad, and that Xykon is just the end-goal end goal of some minor sidequest, and that Elan, not Roy, is the main protagonist. In their final confrontation, [[spoiler:after Tarquin killed Nale (mainly because he was a distraction in the conflict between himself and Elan), Elan flat-out refused to fight, capture capture, or engage with Tarquin in any way and just left him in the desert without any sort of climactic confrontation, which was [[CruelMercy probably the worst thing he could have done to him]]. Tarquin is left screaming after a departing Elan to come back and "finish the story".]] Even among his own party, Tarquin is not the leader. Neither Malack, Laurin, or Miron have any interest in doing what he says, they mostly just put up with it because Tarquin's narrative logic assists in their own personal motives, and is quite profitable to boot. He has to cajole and run on a system of favors in order to get them to do anything for him, and his military prowess is stated to come from elsewhere in the party. Even [[spoiler:Julio Scoundrél]] only considers him one of his "B-list villains".



* Dr. Linksano from ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' appears from another universe and tries to take over ours, but all of his plans end up failing without Linkara even noticing. After the review of ''Warrior 2'' and ''3'', he retreats at the sight of Lord Vyce's approach, which he said was the reason he fled his universe. After Vyce's defeat, he makes another attempt to attack Linkara, but [[EldritchAbomination The Entity]] appears to kill him. After he is brought back from ''that'', Linkara just hires him as a tech-expert and he becomes a (so far) loyal ally.

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* Dr. Linksano from ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' appears from another universe and tries to take over ours, but all of his plans end up failing without Linkara even noticing. After the review of ''Warrior 2'' and ''3'', he retreats at the sight of Lord Vyce's approach, which he said was the reason he fled his universe. After Vyce's defeat, he makes another attempt to attack Linkara, but [[EldritchAbomination The Entity]] appears to kill him. After he is brought back from ''that'', Linkara just hires him as a tech-expert tech expert and he becomes a (so far) loyal ally.

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