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** Probably the most notable one when in comparison to the original myths but while not ugly but Helen is described as rather plain looking with a nicesmile.smile.
** Odysseus is almost universally referred to as ugly in descriptions of him, even by characters who are his friends.
** Probably the most notable one when in comparison to the original myths but while not ugly but Helen is described as rather plain looking with a nice
** Odysseus is almost universally referred to as ugly in descriptions of him, even by characters who are his friends.
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** Odysseus probably has the most in the entire series;
** Kalliades gains one himself amongst the Mykene being known as "The Thinker" and "The Planner"
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** Odysseus probably has the most in the entire series;
series; "Prince of Lies", "The King with No Enemies", "The Ugly King", "The Sacker of Towns".
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* AnyoneCanDie: Crosses over with DoomedByCanon for the characters who originated with the original myths but also very applies to the characters created for this series.
* EvilIsPetty: When the Mykene-led invasion force arrives on the shores of Troy, Agamemon takes up residence in one of the country palaces that was Helikaon's whenever he was in Troy. Odysseus notes the joke's on Agamemnon as Helikaon barely used it whenever he visited Troy.
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* TheMagnificent: Helikaon starts off the series and is frequently referred to as "The Golden One" and following his punitive responses to "The Burner".
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* TheMagnificent: Quite a few characters have these at the start of the series or obtain one
** Helikaon starts off the series and is frequently referred to as "The Golden One" and following his punitive responses to "TheBurner".Burner".
** Odysseus probably has the most in the entire series;
** Kalliades gains one himself amongst the Mykene being known as "The Thinker" and "The Planner"
** Ajax makes a small cameo near the end of the series where he's universally referred to as "Ajax Skull Splitter"
** Helikaon starts off the series and is frequently referred to as "The Golden One" and following his punitive responses to "The
** Odysseus probably has the most in the entire series;
** Kalliades gains one himself amongst the Mykene being known as "The Thinker" and "The Planner"
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* MyNameIsInigoMontoya: the son of Alektruon, a Mykene pirate that Helikaon killed before the start of the series, appears near the end of the third book attacking Kalliades as a disguised Trojan soldier. Banokles then nonchalantly kills him while he's going on about he plans to do his father proud by killing the Mykene traitor Kalliades.
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* MyNameIsInigoMontoya: Asios the son of Alektruon, a Mykene pirate that Helikaon killed before the start of the series, appears near the end of the third book attacking Kalliades as a disguised Trojan soldier. Banokles then nonchalantly kills him while he's going He goes on MotiveRant about he plans to do his father proud by killing the Mykene traitor traitor, Kalliades. Banokles then nonchalantly kills him.
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* WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: Many Trojans, and the peoples of other kingdoms, believe that should Hektor fall Troy will not last much longer without him to lead them to victory.
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** Ajax gives this to [[spoiler: a dying Banokles]] after he had held up the entire Mykene army most of the morning. Refusing to kill him while he was laying on his knees, exhausted and mortally wounded from fighting all morning.
** Agamemnon still largely loathes Odysseus but when the latter was forced to ally Ithkia with Mykene because of circumstances, he impressed Agamemnon with his mind for military tactics and his knowledge that he already Mykene armies/agents ready to invade Thrakia.
** Ajax gives this to [[spoiler: a dying Banokles]] after he had held up the entire Mykene army most of the morning. Refusing to kill him while he was laying on his knees, exhausted and mortally wounded from fighting all morning.
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* WeCantGoOnWithoutYou: Many Trojans, and the peoples of other kingdoms, believe that should Hektor fall Troy will not last much longer without him to lead them to victory.
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* AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: When the Mykene and other western kingdoms finally launch a direct invasion of Troy, Agamemnon and the other western kings take up residence in the various royal palaces on the outside of the city that characters such as Helikaon and Paris lived in.
* AppeaseTheVolcanoGod: This is the purpose of the all-female priesthood on the Isle of Thera where characters like Andromache spent a few years of their lives. Generations ago the volcano exploded and decimated the kingdom of Kretos and since then it has operated on the island attempting to keep what's believed to be a minotaur that lives in the volcano at peace.
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* LadyLand: The Isle of Thera, where Andromache spent two years has a priestess of Artemis, is this.
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* LadyLand: The Isle of Thera, where Andromache spent two years has a priestess of Artemis, is this. All the priestesses there are the daughters of the various kingdoms across the Great Green so pirates don't dare attack it lest they risk every kingdom in the Great Green coming after them.
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* AdaptationalWimp:
** Paris wasn't revered that much for his skills as a warrior in ''Literature/TheIliad'' but it is worth noting he was the one who killed Achilles via exploiting his famed AchillesHeel. Here [[spoiler: when the two come face-to-face, Achilles kills him a CurbStompBattle that lasts seconds.]]
** While he's stated to be a great warrior, Agamemnon leads largely from the rearguard and doesn't take part in any form of combat in the series and the first time he uses his sword to kill someone is when he cuts down [[spoiler: Banokles]] after they had been holding off the Mykene army all morning. His counterpart from the original myths held off the entire Trojan Army at one point.
** Paris wasn't revered that much for his skills as a warrior in ''Literature/TheIliad'' but it is worth noting he was the one who killed Achilles via exploiting his famed AchillesHeel. Here [[spoiler: when the two come face-to-face, Achilles kills him a CurbStompBattle that lasts seconds.]]
** While he's stated to be a great warrior, Agamemnon leads largely from the rearguard and doesn't take part in any form of combat in the series and the first time he uses his sword to kill someone is when he cuts down [[spoiler: Banokles]] after they had been holding off the Mykene army all morning. His counterpart from the original myths held off the entire Trojan Army at one point.
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* AnnoyingArrows: Subverted. During the Mykene assault on the Trojan royal palace in the first book, the Trojan archers present to much to mitigate the numbers disparity by taking out the light-armored Mykene and Thrakia soldiers.
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* CombatByChampion: Achilles and Hektor's fateful duel is this.
* CompressedAdaptation: Aside from flashbacks and the DistantEpilogue, the main story of the series takes place over around 5-6 years. In comparison to the original Literature/TrojanCycle spanning multiple decades.
* CompressedAdaptation: Aside from flashbacks and the DistantEpilogue, the main story of the series takes place over around 5-6 years. In comparison to the original Literature/TrojanCycle spanning multiple decades.
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* InvoluntaryBattleToTheDeath: Zig-zagged. Hektor agreed to the duel to avenge Patroklus issued by Achilles but [[spoiler: Agamemnon had it so that the ceremonial blades used in the duel were dipped in poison so both would die regardless of who won. Thereby killing two birds with one stone.]]
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* MyNameIsInigoMontoya: the son of Alektruon, a Mykene pirate that Helikaon killed before the start of the series, appears near the end of the third book attacking Kalliades as a disguised Trojan soldier. Banokles then nonchalantly kills him while he's going on about he plans to do his father proud by killing the Mykene traitor Kalliades.
* NefariousPharaoh: What we see and here of Ramses in the series doesn't paint him in the best light. His first indirect mention is him launching an invasion of the Hittite Empire that culminates in the real-life Battle of Kadesh and what we see in Gershorm's flashbacks paints him as a cruel PrinceCharmless who planned on executing palace servants for simply bumping into him. [[spoiler: Goes to a whole new level when he see that since Gershorm is Moses, that makes Ramses the Pharaoh of the Exodus.]]
* NefariousPharaoh: What we see and here of Ramses in the series doesn't paint him in the best light. His first indirect mention is him launching an invasion of the Hittite Empire that culminates in the real-life Battle of Kadesh and what we see in Gershorm's flashbacks paints him as a cruel PrinceCharmless who planned on executing palace servants for simply bumping into him. [[spoiler: Goes to a whole new level when he see that since Gershorm is Moses, that makes Ramses the Pharaoh of the Exodus.]]
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* SacredHospitality: A major social custom of the time. The Mykene have particular variant of it known as "The Law of the Road" that when Mykene are travelling in foreign lands they are obligated to face the same hardships of those they are traveling with. Though only those Mykene with a sense of honor seem to actually abide by this.
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: A minor example all things considered given he largely appears in flasbacks but Ramses gets this as from what we see in Gershorm's flashbacks show him being a very arrogant, hot-headed PrinceCharmless who planned to have one his servants executed for accidently bumping into him. [[spoiler: Gets taken to whole another level when it's revealed Gershorm is Moses and so this makes Ramses, once again, the Pharaoh of The Exodus]]
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** This is also the fate of both any priestess who tries to flee the isle of Thera, without express permission, and also anyone who aides in their assistances. The runaway priestess will be taken back to the isle to be buried alive while those who assisted in their escape will be burned alive.
*DivideAndConquer: The main strategy of the Mykene and the other western kingdoms against Troy when the war starts. A direct assault on Troy would last years so the main strategy they go with first is to attack Troy's weaker allies like Thrakia, Dardania, and Thebes under Plakos first that forces Troy to spread out it's forces that leaves Troy severely undermanned.
*DivideAndConquer: The main strategy of the Mykene and the other western kingdoms against Troy when the war starts. A direct assault on Troy would last years so the main strategy they go with first is to attack Troy's weaker allies like Thrakia, Dardania, and Thebes under Plakos first that forces Troy to spread out it's forces that leaves Troy severely undermanned.
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* DyingMomentOfAwesome: Achilles and Hektor, realizing their duel has been fixed for both of them die with Agamemnon's priest poisoning their blades, personally fend off Agamemnon's royal guards. Killing all but two of them before they succumb to their wounds and poison. This was also after having been fighting all afternoon.
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* DyingMomentOfAwesome: It's a Gemmell work, so it's almost obligatory;
** [[spoiler: Halysia, the Queen of Dardania, riding on an only semi-tamed wild horse she jumps over a deep chasm, [[BottomlessPit that bears the name of the last idiot who tried to make the jump]], and manages to successfully do so that gets her son, Dex, to safety. All while being chased down by blood-thirsty Mykene and suffering a nasty spear wound. She gradually succumbs to her wounds shortly after but only finally dies until Helikaon arrives that ensures Dex will be safe. Even Banokles spoke in awe of her actions as the tale begins to spread around.]]
** [[spoiler: Achilles and Hektor, realizing their duel has been fixed for the both of them die with Agamemnon's priest poisoning their blades, personally fend off Agamemnon's entire royalguards.guard. Killing all but two of them before they succumb to their wounds and poison. This was also after having been fighting all afternoon. ]]
** [[spoiler: Near the very end of the series with the Trojan Royal Palace overrun by the Mykene, Banokles is the last remaining soldier still fighting for Troy when everyone else left was killed off or managed to escape. He guesses he kills somewhere over 17 men and took most of the morning for the Mykene to finally put him down.]]
** [[spoiler: Halysia, the Queen of Dardania, riding on an only semi-tamed wild horse she jumps over a deep chasm, [[BottomlessPit that bears the name of the last idiot who tried to make the jump]], and manages to successfully do so that gets her son, Dex, to safety. All while being chased down by blood-thirsty Mykene and suffering a nasty spear wound. She gradually succumbs to her wounds shortly after but only finally dies until Helikaon arrives that ensures Dex will be safe. Even Banokles spoke in awe of her actions as the tale begins to spread around.]]
** [[spoiler: Achilles and Hektor, realizing their duel has been fixed for the both of them die with Agamemnon's priest poisoning their blades, personally fend off Agamemnon's entire royal
** [[spoiler: Near the very end of the series with the Trojan Royal Palace overrun by the Mykene, Banokles is the last remaining soldier still fighting for Troy when everyone else left was killed off or managed to escape. He guesses he kills somewhere over 17 men and took most of the morning for the Mykene to finally put him down.]]
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* AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: Brutally deconstructed.
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* AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: Brutally deconstructed.deconstructed with Helikaon's (Aeneas) mother who here is not Aphrodite but was a mortal Queen who died when she jumped off a cliff believing she was being invited to go to Olympus by Aphrodite.
* CityOfGold: Troy is known as this throughout the Great Green and while it is an exaggeration and more of a reference to how it's a prosperous trade city, the roof of Priam's palace is legitimately layered in gold.
* LegendFadesToMyth: The underlining assumption of the series is that various events of the series will gradually evolve into the legends that makeup the Literature/TrojanCycle
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* BittersweetEnding: Helikaon, Andromache, and others manage to survive the war and build a new life at the Seven Hills settlement on the far western edge of the Great Green but Troy still falls to the Mykene with the once prosperous city a ruined husk and the vast majority of the characters in the series ending up dead or their fates uncertain.
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Helikaon, Andromache, their children, and others manage to survive the war and build a new life at the Seven Hills settlement on the far western edge of the Great Green but Troy still falls to the Mykene with the once prosperous city left a ruined husk and husk. With the vast majority of the characters in the series ending up dead either killed (Hektor, Achilles, Kassandra, Banokles, etc) or their fates uncertain.left uncertain (Odysseus, Kalliades, Xander, etc]].
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** When their duel is revealed to have been setup for both of them to die Agamemnon, Hektor and Achilles hold off and kill all but two Agamemnon's royal guard before falling over and dying from their poisoned wounds.
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* OnlyInItForTheMoney: Idomeneus sticks by Agmemnon to the end when most of the other western kings begin to abandon him but only because he ''really'' wants to plunder Priam's massive treasury.
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* PerfectlyArrangedMarriage: Odysseus and Penelope. Originally she hated him when they were first wed but grew to love him after he took ill and she nursed him back to health in the intervening weeks. .
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** The King's Followers for Agamemnon also act as this in addition to as his agents/spies abroad.
* TheProphecy: Priam and Hekabe were given one years before the events of the series that serves as the motivation for many of their actions in the series. Believing it foretells the birth of a ChosenOne who will lead the city of Troy to eternal greatness.
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** The King's Followers for Agamemnon also act as this in addition to as being his agents/spies abroad.
* TheProphecy: The page quote is one that Priam and Hekabe were given one years before the events of the series that serves as the motivation for many of their actions in the series. Believing it foretells the birth of a ChosenOne who will lead the city of Troy to eternal greatness.
* TheProphecy: The page quote is one that Priam and Hekabe were given one years before the events of the series that serves as the motivation for many of their actions in the series. Believing it foretells the birth of a ChosenOne who will lead the city of Troy to eternal greatness.
* SanitySlippage: A combination of advancing age and the death of Hekabe causes this happen to Priam as the war with Mykene and the other western kingdoms goes on. Eventually his sons have to cut him out of military planning because of it.
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* WhamEpisode: At the end of ''Shield of Thunder'', the capital of Dardania is sacked by a Mykene raiding party that sees it's Queen and Helikaon's wife, Halysia, die in the defense of it. Showing that Troy and it's major allies are far more vulnerable than it thinks and it's forces too spread out to properly defend it's home territories
* TheWomenAreSafeWithUs: What gets Hektor to agree to his fateful duel with Achilles is that Agamemnon, with Odysseus given him assurances that they'll follow through, that the women and children of Troy (except those of the royal family) will be allowed to leave the city before the duel and escorted to neutral kingdoms.
* TheWomenAreSafeWithUs: What gets Hektor to agree to his fateful duel with Achilles is that Agamemnon, with Odysseus given him assurances that they'll follow through, that the women and children of Troy (except those of the royal family) will be allowed to leave the city before the duel and escorted to neutral kingdoms.
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* WarRefugees: [[spoiler: The Seven Hills settlement becomes populated with survivors of Troy and Dardania following the fall of Troy.]]
* WhamEpisode: At the end of ''Shield of Thunder'', the capital of Dardania is sacked by a Mykene raiding party [[spoiler: that sees it's Queen and Helikaon's wife, Halysia, die in the defense ofit. it]]. Showing that Troy and it's major allies are far more vulnerable than it thinks and it's forces too spread out to properly defend it's home territories
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* TheWomenAreSafeWithUs: What gets Hektor to agree to his fateful duel with Achilles is thatAgamemnon, Agamemnon promises, with Odysseus given him assurances that they'll follow through, that the women and children of Troy (except those of the royal family) will be allowed to leave the city before the duel and escorted to neutral kingdoms.
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** Priam is a horrible father all things considered. He belittles the accomplishments of most of his sons who aren't Hektor, gave them a variety of cruel lessons when they were just children [[note]] He left Agathon alone deep in a cave to force him to get over his fear of the dark [[/note]], regularly appoints them to positions they aren't qualified for just to embarrass them when they fail, etc. It's no wonder so many of them have plotted against him, by the time of the start of the series he's had five of his kids executed for failed palace coup attempts.
*** From what little time we spend with her we that Hekabe wasn't much better. Plotting the deaths of children Priam had before he wedded her and also speaking low of Laodike even when she's on her death bed.
** Helikaon's father, Anchises, was quite the piece of work. When his first wife and Helikaon's mother committed suicide, he brought the young boy to where her body still lay from her suicide to prove to the young Helikaon that she did not [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence fly to Olympus]] and effectively traumatized the boy for much of his teenaged years. When he re-marries and produces a new heir, he covertly hires Odysseus to take on Helikaon with the understanding he'll have the boy die in an [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident "accident"]]
** Peleus, father of Achilles, is the probably the worst example in the entire series. He raped his own daughter when she was just 13 as a form of punishment and blamed her for it.
** Priam is a horrible father all things considered. He belittles the accomplishments of most of his sons who aren't Hektor, gave them a variety of cruel lessons when they were just children [[note]] He left Agathon alone deep in a cave to force him to get over his fear of the dark [[/note]], regularly appoints them to positions they aren't qualified for just to embarrass them when they fail, etc. It's no wonder so many of them have plotted against him, by the time of the start of the series he's had five of his kids executed for failed palace coup attempts.
*** From what little time we spend with her we that Hekabe wasn't much better. Plotting the deaths of children Priam had before he wedded her and also speaking low of Laodike even when she's on her death bed.
** Helikaon's father, Anchises, was quite the piece of work. When his first wife and Helikaon's mother committed suicide, he brought the young boy to where her body still lay from her suicide to prove to the young Helikaon that she did not [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence fly to Olympus]] and effectively traumatized the boy for much of his teenaged years. When he re-marries and produces a new heir, he covertly hires Odysseus to take on Helikaon with the understanding he'll have the boy die in an [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident "accident"]]
** Peleus, father of Achilles, is the probably the worst example in the entire series. He raped his own daughter when she was just 13 as a form of punishment and blamed her for it.
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** The biggest one from the first book, ''Lord of the Silver Bow'', being near the end when during the besiegement of the Royal Palace, Hektor arrives at the last minute with reinforcements that encircles the invading Mykene and Thrakians. Hektor personally cuts down scores of Mykene soldiers who tried to in vein fend him off.
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** The biggest one from the first book, ''Lord of the Silver Bow'', being near the end when during the besiegement of the Royal Palace, Hektor arrives at the last minute with reinforcements that encircles the invading Mykene and Thrakians. Hektor personally cuts down scores of Mykene soldiers who tried to in vein fend him off. Banokles later comments seeing Hektor in battle was liking see Ares decided to come to the aide of the Trojans given how well he fought.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Agamemnon wasn't the nicest character in the original poems and he did serve as antagonist to Achilles but here's as close to pure evil as the series gets. The entire war is of his creation and one that he had been planning for years, whereas in the original myths he was responding to a grievance initiated by Paris.
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* DoNotGoGentle: Once the Mykene manage to breach the city's walls, every Trojan soldier knows they are walking corpses yet resolve to take as many Mykene with them to the graves as possible.
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** In ''Fall of Kings'', Odysseus, Achilles, Helikaon, Andromache, and the respective crews of the ''Bloodhawk'' and ''Xanathos'' lead a liberation of Ithika and rescue of Penelope after it had been overrun by vengeful pirates.
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* TheWomanAreSafeWithUs: What gets Hektor to agree to his fateful duel with Achilles is that Agamemnon, with Odysseus given him assurances that they'll follow through, that the women and children of Troy (except those of the royal family) will be allowed to leave the city before the duel and escorted to neutral kingdoms.
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* TheWomanAreSafeWithUs: TheWomenAreSafeWithUs: What gets Hektor to agree to his fateful duel with Achilles is that Agamemnon, with Odysseus given him assurances that they'll follow through, that the women and children of Troy (except those of the royal family) will be allowed to leave the city before the duel and escorted to neutral kingdoms.
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* AdaptationDistillation: The series doesn't limit itself to just Literature/TheIliad and Literature/TheOdyssey, but also the other parts of Literature/TheTrojanCycle, to the later Roman work of Literature/TheAeneid and even [[spoiler: Literature/TheBookOfExodus]].
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* AdaptationDistillation: The series doesn't limit itself to just Literature/TheIliad ''Literature/TheIliad'' and Literature/TheOdyssey, ''Literature/TheOdyssey'', but also the other parts of Literature/TheTrojanCycle, to the later Roman work of Literature/TheAeneid ''Literature/TheAeneid'' and even [[spoiler: Literature/TheBookOfExodus]].''Literature/TheBookOfExodus'']].
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* AdaptationAmalgamation: The trilogy is a re-imagining of the entire Literature/TheTrojanCycle along with other sources it pulls from and so is a mish-mash of elements from Literature/TheIliad, Literature/TheOdyssey, Literature/TheAeneid, and [[spoiler: Literature/TheBookOfExodus ]]
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* AdaptationAmalgamation: The trilogy is a re-imagining of the entire Literature/TheTrojanCycle along with other sources it pulls from and so is a mish-mash of elements from Literature/TheIliad, Literature/TheOdyssey, Literature/TheAeneid, ''Literature/TheIliad'', ''Literature/TheOdyssey'', ''Literature/TheAeneid'', and [[spoiler: Literature/TheBookOfExodus ''Literature/TheBookOfExodus'' ]]
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* MythologyGag: Odysseus is famed across the kingdom of the eastern Mediterranean for stories of his alleged adventures. When we're shown Odysseus recounting them, they're all references to events that make up Literature/TheOdyssey.
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* MythologyGag: Odysseus is famed across the kingdom of the eastern Mediterranean for stories of his alleged adventures. When we're shown Odysseus recounting them, they're all references to events that make up Literature/TheOdyssey.''Literature/TheOdyssey''.
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* OnlyInItForTheMoney: Idomeneus sticks by Agmemnon to the end when most of the other western kings begin to abandon him but only because he ''really'' wants to plunder Priam's massive treasury.
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* AmazonBrigade: During the siege of Troy, Andromache trains widows of the Trojan Horse on how to use a bow-and-arrow so they can defend themselves should the walls be breached. During the final stand of the remnants of the Trojan Army once the walls have been breached, some partake in it's defense.
* BigBrotherWorship: Just about all of Hektor's brothers idolize him to some degree, even the ones who betray their father and family.
* BittersweetEnding: Helikaon, Andromache, and others manage to survive the war and build a new life at the Seven Hills settlement on the far western edge of the Great Green but Troy still falls to the Mykene with the once prosperous city a ruined husk and the vast majority of the characters in the series ending up dead or their fates uncertain.
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* DawnOfAnEra: The epilogue of the series has hints of this with Helikaon, Andromache, and other survivors from the conflict revealed to have made a new home on a series of [[Main/AncientRome seven hills in central Italy]].
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* DawnOfAnEra: The epilogue of the series has hints of this with with, the final chapter even being titled "A New Day", [[spoiler: Helikaon, Andromache, and other survivors Trojan and Dardanian refugees from the conflict revealed to have made having setup a new home on a series of life and kingdom [[Main/AncientRome on a series of seven hills somewhere in central Italy]].the far west of the Great Green]] ]].
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* DistantEpilogue: The epilogue of the series takes place decades following the end of the conflict, with an elderly Andromache overseeing Helikaon's funeral in the settlement they founded together following the war [[Main/AncientRome somewhere in central Italy.]]
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* DistantEpilogue: [[spoiler: The epilogue of the series takes place decades following the end of the conflict, with an elderly Andromache overseeing Helikaon's funeral in the settlement they founded together following the war [[Main/AncientRome somewhere in central Italy.]] ]]
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* EndOfAnEra: Discussed in the first two books but in full effect by the time of the third book, fittingly titled ''Fall of Kings''. The decade long war between the Mykene, the Trojans, and their allies, has bled them dry of both men and money. Even though the Mykene eventually emerge victorious, their conquest of Troy is extremely short-lived as the neighboring Hittite Empire forces them to abandon Troy within days of their conquest. In the subsequent decades, they're overrun by barbarians from the north, too depleted of resources to resist. Appropriately, the book overlaps with the RealLife end of an era, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse the Late Bronze Age Collapse]]
* TheExile: Both Gershorm and Argurious are this.
** Gershorm is on the run for killing two Egyptian Royal Guardsmen.
* TheExile: Both Gershorm and Argurious are this.
** Gershorm is on the run for killing two Egyptian Royal Guardsmen.
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* EndOfAnEra: Discussed in the first two books but in full effect by the time of the third book, fittingly titled ''Fall of Kings''. The decade long war between the Mykene, the Trojans, and their allies, has bled them dry of both men and money. Even though the Mykene eventually emerge victorious, their conquest of Troy is extremely short-lived as the neighboring Hittite Empire forces them to abandon Troy within days of their conquest. In the subsequent decades, they're overrun by barbarians from the north, too depleted of resources to resist. Appropriately, the book overlaps with the RealLife end of an era, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse the Late Bronze Age Collapse]]
** Kassandra's last prediction in the series before her death even directly discusses, stating the "Age of Heroes" is at an end and now the "Age of Darkness" will descend upon the Great Green.
* TheExile:Both Gershorm and Argurious are this.
Many characters in the series find themselves in this position;
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** Kassandra's last prediction in the series before her death even directly discusses, stating the "Age of Heroes" is at an end and now the "Age of Darkness" will descend upon the Great Green.
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** Gershorm is on the run for killing two Egyptian Royal
** Banokles and Kalliades become this upon returning to Mykene following the failure of the attempted overthrow of Priam in the first book, Agamemnon orders the survivors executed with Banokles and Kalliades being the only ones to have escaped.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: In first book it's referenced once the volcano that forms the basis of the isle of Thera once erupted decades ago and brought great destruction on the surrounding kingdoms. [[spoiler: Sure enough in the final book, the volcano erupts once more and begins to usher in what Kassandra calls the new age of darkness. Going by the time period setting of the book, implied to the [[historical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Dark_Ages Greek Dark Age]]
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* HonorBeforeReason: A common character flaw of a many character in the series, occasionally characters such as Andromache or Gershorm point out when they believe it gets particularly ridiculous.
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* HonorBeforeReason: A common character flaw of a found in many character in of the characters throughout the series, occasionally characters such as Andromache or Gershorm point this out when they believe it gets particularly ridiculous.
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** Achilles main flaw, according to Odysseus, won't let any supposed slight on him or his family's honor go. When he becomes King of Thessaly when Peleus dies, he only stays with the alliance so he can track down who the solider was who killed his father. Also what gets Agamemnon to manipulate him into a fixed duel with Hektor following Patroklos' death.
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** Achilles main flaw, according to Odysseus, is that he won't let any supposed slight on him or his family's honor go. When he becomes King of Thessaly when Peleus dies, he only stays with the alliance so he can track down who the solider was who killed his father. father despite falling out with father shortly before his death and not getting along with Agamemnon. Also what gets Agamemnon to manipulate him into a fixed duel with Hektor following Patroklos' death.
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* LastStand: Once the Mykene breach the Trojan walls all hope of lasting them out in a protracted siege goes away and the remaining Trojan soldiers intend to make sure the Mykene will have to kill them all before they can claim victory.
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* MassiveNumberedSiblings: Priam has ''50'' children, only four of whom are through his wife Hekabe.
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* MassiveNumberedSiblings: Priam supposedely has ''50'' children, only four of whom are through his wife Hekabe.
** When Odysseus is thinking on the troubled and fractious alliance of the western kingdoms, he makes reference to Achilles and Agamemnon having an argument over some slave girl who was a priestess.
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* PyrrhicVictory: What the Mykene victory over Troy ends up being. They won but they're vastly drained of men and other resources, even their territorial conquest of Troy is short-lived as the Hitties force them to leave just days after their victory.
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* PyrrhicVictory: What the Mykene victory over Troy ends up being. They won but they're vastly drained of men and other resources, even their territorial conquest of Troy is short-lived as the Hitties Hittites force them to leave just days a day after their victory.
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* TheSiege: The third and final book, ''Fall of Kings'', is almost entirely set around the famed siege of Troy finally taking place.
** Before that however was a smaller affair in the climax of the first book, ''Lord of the Silver Bow'', where a contingent of Mykene and Thrakian soldiers besieged the Trojan Royal Palace as a part of a palace coup attempt by one of Priam's sons that was covertly supported by Agamemnon.
** Before that however was a smaller affair in the climax of the first book, ''Lord of the Silver Bow'', where a contingent of Mykene and Thrakian soldiers besieged the Trojan Royal Palace as a part of a palace coup attempt by one of Priam's sons that was covertly supported by Agamemnon.
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* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: When Odysseus and Nestor learn Agamemnon had the priest lace the blades Achilles and Hektor used for their combat with poison so as they would both die regardless of who won, they both decide they've hade enough of Agamemnon and depart for home.
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* UncertainDoom: The ultimate fates of the several characters by the time of DistantEpilogue are left uncertain.
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** When their duel is revealed to have been setup for both of them to die Agamemnon, Hektor and Achilles hold off and kill all but two Agamemnon's royal guard before falling over and dying from their poisoned wounds.
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** In ''Shield of Thunder'', Piria, Kalliades, and Banokles coming to Andromache's rescue when she's attacked at her home outside of Troy. They fend over a dozen Mykene assassins'.
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** In ''Shield of Thunder'', Piria, Kalliades, and Banokles coming to Andromache's rescue when she's attacked at her home outside of Troy. They fend off over a dozen Mykene assassins'.assassins.
* DyingMomentOfAwesome: Achilles and Hektor, realizing their duel has been fixed for both of them die with Agamemnon's priest poisoning their blades, personally fend off Agamemnon's royal guards. Killing all but two of them before they succumb to their wounds and poison. This was also after having been fighting all afternoon.
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* HonorBeforeReason: Argurious' code of honor and deference to social customs sees him defending Helikaon from other fellow Mykene while they're traveling together on a public road to meet the King of Blue Owl Bay. Him killing a Mykene for attempting to kill Helikaon while his back was turned ends up with him getting exiled from Mykene for it. The kicker is Argurious hated Helikaon as much as any Mykene and would have killed him at the first chance he got if circumstances were right.
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* HonorBeforeReason: A common character flaw of a many character in the series, occasionally characters such as Andromache or Gershorm point out when they believe it gets particularly ridiculous.
** Argurious' code of honor and deference to social customs sees him defending Helikaon from other fellow Mykene while they're traveling together on a public road to meet the King of Blue Owl Bay. Him killing a Mykene for attempting to kill Helikaon while his back was turned ends up with him getting exiled from Mykene for it. The kicker is Argurious hated Helikaon as much as any Mykene and would have killed him at the first chance he got if circumstances were right.
** Achilles main flaw, according to Odysseus, won't let any supposed slight on him or his family's honor go. When he becomes King of Thessaly when Peleus dies, he only stays with the alliance so he can track down who the solider was who killed his father. Also what gets Agamemnon to manipulate him into a fixed duel with Hektor following Patroklos' death.
** Argurious' code of honor and deference to social customs sees him defending Helikaon from other fellow Mykene while they're traveling together on a public road to meet the King of Blue Owl Bay. Him killing a Mykene for attempting to kill Helikaon while his back was turned ends up with him getting exiled from Mykene for it. The kicker is Argurious hated Helikaon as much as any Mykene and would have killed him at the first chance he got if circumstances were right.
** Achilles main flaw, according to Odysseus, won't let any supposed slight on him or his family's honor go. When he becomes King of Thessaly when Peleus dies, he only stays with the alliance so he can track down who the solider was who killed his father. Also what gets Agamemnon to manipulate him into a fixed duel with Hektor following Patroklos' death.
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** The King's Followers for Agamemnon also act as this in addition to as his agents/spies abroad.
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** The biggest one from the first book being near the end when during the besiegement of the Royal Palace, Hektor arrives at the last minute with reinforcements that encircles the invading Mykene and Thrakians. Hektor personally cuts down scores of Mykene soldiers who tried to in vein fend him off.
** Piria, Kalliades, and Banokles coming to Andromache's rescue when she's attacked at her home outside of Troy. They fend over a dozen Mykene assassins'.
** Piria, Kalliades, and Banokles coming to Andromache's rescue when she's attacked at her home outside of Troy. They fend over a dozen Mykene assassins'.
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** The biggest one from the first book book, ''Lord of the Silver Bow'', being near the end when during the besiegement of the Royal Palace, Hektor arrives at the last minute with reinforcements that encircles the invading Mykene and Thrakians. Hektor personally cuts down scores of Mykene soldiers who tried to in vein fend him off.
** In ''Shield of Thunder'', Piria, Kalliades, and Banokles coming to Andromache's rescue when she's attacked at her home outside of Troy. They fend over a dozen Mykene assassins'.
** In ''Shield of Thunder'', Piria, Kalliades, and Banokles coming to Andromache's rescue when she's attacked at her home outside of Troy. They fend over a dozen Mykene assassins'.
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** Piria, Kalliades, and Banokles coming to Andromache's rescue when she's attacked at her home outside of Troy. They fend over a dozen Mykene assassins'.
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* Achilles is even mentioned in the first book, is only a background character in the second, but is eventually promoted to main cast status by the time of the third book.
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* QuantityVsQuality: What is one of the ultimate causes of the Trojans losing the war. While soldiers such as the Mykene are no slouches, the Trojans are generally considered to have the best army on either side of the conflict but there are simply just more men from the western kingdoms that can be thrown at them. Pointed out by Dios, one of Priam's sons, to Andromache that the Trojans under Hektor in Thrakia could win many battles but all the Mykene and their allies need to do is win one to destroy the Trojan Army.
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* PyrrhicVictory: What the Mykene victory over Troy ends up being. They won but they're vastly drained of men and other resources, even their territorial conquest of Troy is short-lived as the Hitties force them to leave just days after their victory.
* QuantityVsQuality: What is one of the ultimate causes of the Trojans losing the war. While soldiers such as the Mykene are no slouches, the Trojans are generally considered to have the best army on either side of the conflict but there are simply just more men from the western kingdoms that can be thrown at them. Pointed out by Dios, one of Priam's sons, to Andromache that the Trojans under Hektor in Thrakia could win many battles but all the Mykene and their allies need to do is win just one to destroy the Trojan Army.
* QuantityVsQuality: What is one of the ultimate causes of the Trojans losing the war. While soldiers such as the Mykene are no slouches, the Trojans are generally considered to have the best army on either side of the conflict but there are simply just more men from the western kingdoms that can be thrown at them. Pointed out by Dios, one of Priam's sons, to Andromache that the Trojans under Hektor in Thrakia could win many battles but all the Mykene and their allies need to do is win just one to destroy the Trojan Army.
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* AdaptationDistillation: The series doesn't limit itself to just Literature/TheIliad and Literature/TheOdyssey, but also the other parts of Literature/TheTrojanCycle, to the later Roman work of Literature/TheAeneid and even [[spoiler: Literature/TheBookOfExodus]].
** Paris is a minor character here and while he's considered a coward by many, he isn't the womanizing and vein prince of the original myths. He didn't even abduct Helen here, she's a NobleFugitive who stayed in Troy and married Paris when Agamemnon conquered Sparta.
* AdaptationalUgliness: Not ugly but Helen is described as rather plain looking with a nice smile.
* AdaptationalUgliness: Not ugly but Helen is described as rather plain looking with a nice smile.
* BigBad: Agamemnon, just about most of the terrible things in the series that happen can be traced back to him and the war with Troy is entirely of his own making.
* ButForMeItWasTuesday: Helikaon's killing and body desecration of the Mykene pirate, Alektruon, is the start of him being considered a national enemy of the Mykene but by the time of third book, Helikaon barely even remembers the man when he's challenged by a family relative of his.
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* {{Demythification}}: Aside from possible visions of the future via seers, near-death experiences, and [[CassandraTruth Kassandra]], just about all the mythical elements of the conflict from the original stories/myths are excised in this iteration.
* DirtyOldMan: Pretty common among the various kings of the series, who are are all at least a few decades older than some of their wives, but probably the most notorious example in the series is King Peleus (father of Achilles)
* DirtyOldMan: Pretty common among the various kings of the series, who are are all at least a few decades older than some of their wives, but probably the most notorious example in the series is King Peleus (father of Achilles)
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* {{Demythification}}: Aside from possible visions Achilles is even mentioned in the first book, is only a background character in the second, but is eventually promoted to main cast status by the time of the future via seers, near-death experiences, and [[CassandraTruth Kassandra]], just about all the mythical elements of the conflict from the original stories/myths are excised in this iteration.third book.
* {{Demythification}}: Aside from possible visions of the future via seers, near-death experiences, and [[TheCassandra Kassandra]], just about all the mythical elements of the conflict from the original stories/myths are excised in this iteration.
** The most notable example of this is when in the in the first book Odysseus makes reference to a story about a witch-queen who turns men into pigs, clearly referencing Circe. Early on in the second book we actually meet Circe and she's just an elderly pig farmer who Odysseus sometimes does business with.
* DirtyOldMan: Pretty common among the various kings of the series, who are are all at least a few decades older than some of their wives, but probably the most notorious example in the series is King Peleus (father of Achilles) who had gone so far as to rape his own daughter, Kalliope.
* {{Demythification}}: Aside from possible visions of the future via seers, near-death experiences, and [[TheCassandra Kassandra]], just about all the mythical elements of the conflict from the original stories/myths are excised in this iteration.
** The most notable example of this is when in the in the first book Odysseus makes reference to a story about a witch-queen who turns men into pigs, clearly referencing Circe. Early on in the second book we actually meet Circe and she's just an elderly pig farmer who Odysseus sometimes does business with.
* DirtyOldMan: Pretty common among the various kings of the series, who are are all at least a few decades older than some of their wives, but probably the most notorious example in the series is King Peleus (father of Achilles) who had gone so far as to rape his own daughter, Kalliope.
* GreyAndGrayMorality: Neither side can be described as wholly good or evil as there's a mixture of both types on either side of the conflict. Andromache even points in a moment of anger in an argument with Helikaon that the things he rails against the Mykene have done to him he has also committed many times over.
* HeritageFaceTurn: Gershorm isn't evil but eventually does this when he finds out [[spoiler: He was born a slave that was swapped at birth with the dead body of a royal baby that died during childbirth. Turn's out he's Moses]]
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* MythologyGag: Odysseus is famed across the kingdom of the eastern Mediterranean for stories of his alleged adventures. When we're shown Odysseus recounting them, they're all references to events that make up Literature/TheOdyssey. Such as encountering a cyclops devouring his crewmates or a witch-queen who turns men into pigs.
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* MythologyGag: Odysseus is famed across the kingdom of the eastern Mediterranean for stories of his alleged adventures. When we're shown Odysseus recounting them, they're all references to events that make up Literature/TheOdyssey. Such as encountering a cyclops devouring his crewmates or a witch-queen who turns men into pigs.
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* OffingTheOffspring: As with the number of attempted murders of parents via their children, there's just about as many examples of parents who have done this or attempted to. Priam
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* OffingTheOffspring: As with the number of attempted murders of parents via their children, there's just about as many examples of parents who have done this or attempted to. Priam is stated to have recently executed five of his sons who got caught in attempting to overthrow at the start of the series.
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* RapePillageAndBurn: A common recurrence throughout the series, in particular a favorite tactic of Mykene pirates. By the time of the war, Priam's war strategy is send Helikaon to lead
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* RapePillageAndBurn: A common recurrence throughout the series, in particular a favorite tactic of Mykene pirates. By the time of the war, Priam's war strategy is send Helikaon to lead raids on the Mykene coastlines hoping to draw forces away from their invasion of Thrakia.
