Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Literature / RedArmy

Go To

OR

Added: 687

Changed: 525

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Unfortunately, it had the misfortune to be released at the end of the Cold War and thus for many became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the GulfWar occured. The use of outdated, export-quality equipment by Iraqi forces in the latter 'proved' to many that the USSR's emphasis on planning and organisation would have counted for nothing in the face of NATO's marginally-superior weaponry, and Peters was accused of overhyping the USSR's capabilities. Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels potrayed a 'best case' scenario for the Soviets which showcased their strengths (simple but brilliant plans) and NATO's weaknesses (reliance on improvisation, severe internal divisions). He's also said that he wrote the novel in part because all the famous World War III technothrillers of the time potrayed best-case scenarios for NATO in which the Soviet forces were forced to improvise and fight in unusual situations only to be thwarted by small bands of intrepid heroes.

to:

Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Unfortunately, it had the misfortune to be released at the end of the Cold War and thus for many became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the GulfWar occured. The use of outdated, export-quality equipment by Iraqi forces in the latter 'proved' to many that the USSR's emphasis on planning and organisation would have counted for nothing in the face of NATO's marginally-superior weaponry, and Peters was accused of overhyping the USSR's capabilities. capabilities.

Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels novel potrayed a 'best case' scenario for the Soviets which showcased their strengths (simple but brilliant plans) and NATO's weaknesses (reliance on improvisation, severe internal divisions). He's also said that he wrote the novel in part because all the famous World War III technothrillers of the time potrayed best-case scenarios for NATO in which the Soviet forces were forced to improvise and fight in unusual situations only (only to be thwarted by small bands of intrepid heroes.
spies/heroes). In this respect it is arguably 'harder' fiction than the latter, as it portrays a mundane/typical WWIII scenario rather than an exciting/fantastic one.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Unfortunately, it had the misfortune to be released at the end of the Cold War and thus became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the GulfWar occured, meaning that Peters was accused of overhyping the strength of America’s enemies. Make no mistake, however: at the time this was SeriousBusiness. Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels assumed a complete 'best case' scenario for the Soviets, and indicates that he wrote the novel in part because most of the other writers of World War III technothrillers at the time relied on a best-case scenario for NATO.

to:

Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Unfortunately, it had the misfortune to be released at the end of the Cold War and thus for many became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the GulfWar occured, meaning occured. The use of outdated, export-quality equipment by Iraqi forces in the latter 'proved' to many that the USSR's emphasis on planning and organisation would have counted for nothing in the face of NATO's marginally-superior weaponry, and Peters was accused of overhyping the strength of America’s enemies. Make no mistake, however: at the time this was SeriousBusiness. USSR's capabilities. Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels assumed potrayed a complete 'best case' scenario for the Soviets, Soviets which showcased their strengths (simple but brilliant plans) and indicates NATO's weaknesses (reliance on improvisation, severe internal divisions). He's also said that he wrote the novel in part because most of all the other writers of famous World War III technothrillers at of the time relied on a potrayed best-case scenario scenarios for NATO.
NATO in which the Soviet forces were forced to improvise and fight in unusual situations only to be thwarted by small bands of intrepid heroes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


While fans of NATO's military technology are quick to claim that ''Red Army'' 'fails the history test' - because Soviet smarts really were on the verge of being outmatched by NATO (weapons-technology-)brawn in 1989 - it's an excellent human drama that devotedly details the workings of a modern army.

to:

While fans of NATO's military technology are quick to claim that ''Red Army'' 'fails the history test' - because Soviet smarts really were ''really were'' on the verge of being outmatched by NATO (weapons-technology-)brawn in 1989 - it's an excellent human drama that devotedly details the workings of a modern army.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


While ''Red Army'' fails the history test, it more than passes as a human drama, and it details the workings of a modern army.

to:

While fans of NATO's military technology are quick to claim that ''Red Army'' fails 'fails the history test, it more than passes as a test' - because Soviet smarts really were on the verge of being outmatched by NATO (weapons-technology-)brawn in 1989 - it's an excellent human drama, and it drama that devotedly details the workings of a modern army.

Added: 28

Changed: 75

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheNeidermeyer: Starukhin.



* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture: The book’s tagline is, ‘A Novel of Tomorrow’s War’.

to:

* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture: The book’s tagline is, ‘A Novel of Tomorrow’s War’. The mention of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty puts the date after June 1988.

Added: 199

Changed: 1

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CavalryRefusal: Type B. The attack helicopters assigned to support Gordunov's air assault battalion pull off earlier than he expected, which promptly reminds him of a similar incident in Afghanistan where his company was ripped apart by a dushman ambush.

to:

* CavalryRefusal: Type B. The attack helicopters assigned to support Gordunov's air assault battalion pull off earlier than he expected, which promptly reminds him of a similar incident in Afghanistan where his company was ripped apart by a dushman ambush.ambush
* DeathFromAbove: [[spoiler: It is implied that Anton's advance battalion was attacked by Apache helicopters, which launched their missiles outside the range of the battalion's air defense weapons.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[quoteright:300:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/redarmy_cover_2375.jpg]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


As the story opens, WorldWarIII has already started (Peters never does mention what started it) and the Red Army under [[OfficerAndAGentleman General Malinsky]] is about to attack across the plains of northern Germany. What follows is the offensive operation NATO so feared during the ColdWar; the mechanized Soviet armies split the alliance's front and pour across Germany too fast for their shocked high command to react.

to:

As the story opens, WorldWarIII has already started (Peters never does mention what started it) and the Red Army under [[OfficerAndAGentleman General Malinsky]] is about to attack across the plains of northern Germany. What follows is the offensive operation that NATO so feared during the ColdWar; the mechanized Soviet armies split the alliance's front and pour across Germany too fast for their shocked high command to react.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


As the story opens, WorldWarIII has already started (Peters never does mention what started it) and the Red Army under [[OfficerAndAGentleman General Malinsky]] is about to attack across the plains of northern Germany. What follows is the theater-strategic operation NATO so feared during the ColdWar, the mechanized Soviet armies splitting the alliance’s front and pouring across Germany too fast for their shocked high command to react.

to:

As the story opens, WorldWarIII has already started (Peters never does mention what started it) and the Red Army under [[OfficerAndAGentleman General Malinsky]] is about to attack across the plains of northern Germany. What follows is the theater-strategic offensive operation NATO so feared during the ColdWar, ColdWar; the mechanized Soviet armies splitting split the alliance’s alliance's front and pouring pour across Germany too fast for their shocked high command to react.



** Tanks are the main striking force of the Red Army. Particularly true of the Starukhin's army facing the British. [[spoiler:Not that it helps him much, anyhow, as the British manage to set up defense line after defense line in rapid succession without becoming completely disorganized, until [[TheHero Bezarin]] manages flank and rout the remaining elements of the core British armored division and [[TheCavalry link up with an air assault bridgehead]].]]

to:

** Tanks are the main striking force of the Red Army. Particularly true of the Starukhin's army facing the British. [[spoiler:Not that it helps him much, anyhow, as the British manage British--thanks to their head-start in commencing engineering work--manage to set up defense line after defense line in rapid succession without becoming completely disorganized, until [[TheHero Bezarin]] manages flank and rout the remaining elements of the core British armored division and [[TheCavalry link up with an air assault bridgehead]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Peters must hate NATO's Overwatch tactic. NATO loses 2 easy wins because they waste time on Overwatch tactics instead of selecting a Soviet type charge on line, which are depicted to succeed. The most successful NATO ground attack shown in-book was made by American tanks against a transport convoy ... without overwatch.

to:

** Peters must hate NATO's Overwatch overwatch tactic. NATO loses 2 two easy wins because they waste time on Overwatch overwatch tactics instead of selecting a Soviet type charge on line, which are depicted to succeed. [[spoiler: The most successful NATO ground attack shown in-book was made by American tanks against a transport convoy ... without overwatch.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
needless take thats removed, and the wiki doesn\'t care about critical reception outside of \"So bad/good it\'s...\" stuff.


A 1989 novel by Ralph Peters, often counted among the techno-thriller genre thanks to its subject matter -- a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. Unlike other techno-thrillers, however, Peters wrote the entire story from the Soviet point of view, then went on to commit the faux pas of having the Soviets actually ''win'', something other [[TomClancy American writers]] would never dream of.

to:

A 1989 novel by Ralph Peters, often counted among the techno-thriller genre thanks to its subject matter -- a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. Unlike other techno-thrillers, however, Peters wrote the entire story from the Soviet point of view, then went on to commit the faux pas of having and has the Soviets actually ''win'', something other [[TomClancy American writers]] would never dream of.
''win''.



Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Despite this, ''Red Army'' was mostly dissed by the critics who apparently couldn’t forgive Peters for letting [[TheEmpire the bad guys]] win. It also had the misfortune to be released at the end of the Cold War and thus became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the GulfWar occured, meaning that Peters was accused of overhyping the strength of America’s enemies. Make no mistake, however: at the time this was SeriousBusiness. To be fair, Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels assumed a complete 'best case' scenario for the Soviets, and indicates that he wrote the novel in part because [[TomClancy most of the other writers of World War III technothrillers at the time]] relied on a best-case scenario for NATO.

While ''Red Army'' fails the history test, it more than passes as a human drama, and it details the workings of a modern army far better than any of its rivals, including ''RedStormRising''. Forget the romantic image of the [[FourStarBadass brilliant general]] having a Napoleonic flash of inspiration that wins the pitched battle, deploying modern armies is a matter of march tables and proper mathematical planning. Ironically, war as Peters envisioned it has been carried out since the novel was written… by the [[YanksWithTanks U.S. Army]] on its march to Baghdad.

to:

Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Despite this, ''Red Army'' was mostly dissed by the critics who apparently couldn’t forgive Peters for letting [[TheEmpire the bad guys]] win. It also Unfortunately, it had the misfortune to be released at the end of the Cold War and thus became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the GulfWar occured, meaning that Peters was accused of overhyping the strength of America’s enemies. Make no mistake, however: at the time this was SeriousBusiness. To be fair, Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels assumed a complete 'best case' scenario for the Soviets, and indicates that he wrote the novel in part because [[TomClancy most of the other writers of World War III technothrillers at the time]] time relied on a best-case scenario for NATO.

While ''Red Army'' fails the history test, it more than passes as a human drama, and it details the workings of a modern army far better than any of its rivals, including ''RedStormRising''. Forget the romantic image of the [[FourStarBadass brilliant general]] having a Napoleonic flash of inspiration that wins the pitched battle, deploying modern armies is a matter of march tables and proper mathematical planning. Ironically, war as Peters envisioned it has been carried out since the novel was written… by the [[YanksWithTanks U.S. Army]] on its march to Baghdad.
army.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
One more Author Tract

Added DiffLines:

** Peters must hate NATO's Overwatch tactic. NATO loses 2 easy wins because they waste time on Overwatch tactics instead of selecting a Soviet type charge on line, which are depicted to succeed. The most successful NATO ground attack shown in-book was made by American tanks against a transport convoy ... without overwatch.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AmericaSavesTheDay: [[spoiler: Averted]]


Added DiffLines:

** Peter's does not hold the West Germans in a positive light. He makes numerous references to them being the weak link in NATO.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AuthorTract: It's subtle in the story, but it's played straight in the afterword he writes. Peters wanted to show the readers that NATO's strategy of Forward Defense would be extremely unlikely to stop a Soviet offensive, along with the inefficiency of NATO's command structure, lack of unified doctrine and unified troop control, and the strategic and operational flaws in NATO force dispositions.

to:

* AuthorTract: It's subtle in the story, but it's played straight in the afterword he writes. Peters wanted to show the readers that NATO's strategy of Forward Defense would be extremely unlikely to stop a Soviet offensive, along with the inefficiency of NATO's command structure, lack of unified doctrine and unified troop control, and the strategic and operational flaws in NATO force dispositions.dispositions, and complacency relying on technology and superior individual training.

Added: 2176

Changed: 466

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added material on tank commander Bezarin and Malinsky\'s son


** [[spoiler:Even more painful as this is how the Malinsky's son dies. He is embarrassed by a bad case of the shits, and chooses a spot far away from his command post to relieve himself. His father promises his battalion top priority on air support. The Soviet pilots visually identify the green flares of the command post and get vague directions from the air controller to hit the far treeline.]]
* GeneralRipper: Malinsky starts sounding like one when he [[spoiler:justifies his decision to actively ignore NATO military units which have retreated into West German cities. In his eyes, they are now the Soviet Army's "hostages", to be traded one nuke at a time if the Western Allies nuclearize the battlefield.]]



* TankGoodness: Both heavily displayed, and somewhat averted:
** Tanks are the main striking force of the Red Army. Particularly true of the Starukhin's army facing the British. [[spoiler:Not that it helps him much, anyhow, as the British manage to set up defense line after defense line in rapid succession without becoming completely disorganized, until [[TheHero Bezarin]] manages flank and rout the remaining elements of the core British armored division and [[TheCavalry link up with an air assault bridgehead]].]]
** However, it is clear that the Soviet armored vehicles are smaller (and implied to be of worse quality) than the "monstrous, boxy, Western tanks," which often results in lopsided distributions of wreckage post-battle.
** Averted, in that tank battalion commander Bezarin overcomes the qualitative inferiority of his tanks (and salvages his superior's idiotic battle plan) with a bit of improvisation and a deadly precise understanding of how to use terrain in modern warfare, showing that it's not the guns or armor on the tanks that count, but the soldiers commanding them.



* TrappedBehindEnemyLines: Gordunov’s air assault battalion has the duty of securing the Weser-spanning bridges in Hameln, fifty kilometers behind British lines.

to:

* TrappedBehindEnemyLines: Gordunov’s air assault battalion has the duty of securing the Weser-spanning bridges in Hameln, fifty kilometers behind British lines. [[spoiler:This is a diversionary assault, purely intended to draw West German and British units away from the main axis of attack. [[SacrificialLamb The battalion]] dies awaiting a linkup with Soviet armor that was never coming in the first place.]]



* WouldNotShootACivilian: Inverted. [[spoiler:Leonid accidentally shoots two German civilians when trying to hide in a basement.]]

to:

* WouldNotShootACivilian: Inverted. [[spoiler:Leonid accidentally shoots two German civilians when trying to hide in a basement.]] Played straight by Bezarin, who [[spoiler:nearly fires on his own men and threatens his subordinate with an "[[PublicExecution immediate battlefield court-martial]]" to get them to stop raping and killing refugees.]]
* XanatosSpeedChess: Heavily shown. Essentially the entire Soviet war plan rests not on NATO making giant mistakes, but being too slow in recognizing and reacting to developments at the operational level.
** [[spoiler:Results in a horrific, Stalingrad-style siege at Hannover for what is implied to be a large chunk of the Bundeswehr and many unlucky civilians.
]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
No context. so its this.


* MillionMookMarch: ''Comprehensively'' averted. The NATO armies are expecting a ZergRush: the battle plan they get is an astute, intricate and strenuously thought-out XanatosGambit. And it all happens very, very fast.

to:

* MillionMookMarch: ''Comprehensively'' averted. The NATO armies are expecting a ZergRush: the battle plan they get is an astute, intricate and strenuously thought-out XanatosGambit.[[ThePlan plan]]. And it all happens very, very fast.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:Levin.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
text formatting, and removed Take That.


* ShownTheirWork: Peters was one of the few in the West to actually ‘’know’’ and not have a stereotyped view of the Soviet military system, compared to [[TomClancy other authors]].

to:

* ShownTheirWork: Peters was one of the few in the West to actually ‘’know’’ ''know'' and not have a stereotyped view of the Soviet military system, compared to [[TomClancy other authors]].authors.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AuthorTract: It's subtle in the story, but it's played straight in the afterword he writes. Peters wanted to show the readers that NATO's strategy of Forward Defense would be extremely unlikely to stop a Soviet offensive, along with the inefficiency of NATO's command structure, lack of unified doctrine and unified troop control, and the strategic and operational flaws in NATO force dispositions.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Despite this, ''Red Army'' was mostly dissed by the critics who apparently couldn’t forgive Peters for letting [[TheEmpire the bad guys]] win. It also had the misfortune to be released in 1989 and thus became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the GulfWar occured, meaning that Peters was accused of overhyping the strength of America’s enemies. Make no mistake, however: at the time this was SeriousBusiness. To be fair, Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels assumed a complete 'best case' scenario for the Soviets, and indicates that he wrote the novel in part because [[TomClancy most of the other writers of World War III technothrillers at the time]] relied on a best-case scenario for NATO.

to:

Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Despite this, ''Red Army'' was mostly dissed by the critics who apparently couldn’t forgive Peters for letting [[TheEmpire the bad guys]] win. It also had the misfortune to be released in 1989 at the end of the Cold War and thus became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the GulfWar occured, meaning that Peters was accused of overhyping the strength of America’s enemies. Make no mistake, however: at the time this was SeriousBusiness. To be fair, Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels assumed a complete 'best case' scenario for the Soviets, and indicates that he wrote the novel in part because [[TomClancy most of the other writers of World War III technothrillers at the time]] relied on a best-case scenario for NATO.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* InformedJudaism: Chibisov, as Peters wrote it: ''"was an ethnic Jew whose family had long ago renounce its religion, but he still felt compelled to struggle relentlessly against every last vestige of his Jewishness."''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AFatherToHisMen: Lieutenant Colonel Shilko. Before the war, he and his subunit had a local reputation for being able to raise chickens for food and profit.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan: Many of the story's characters previously served in Afghanistan.

Added: 123

Changed: 34

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ShownTheirWork: Peters was one of the few in the West to actually ‘’know’’ and not have a stereotyped view of the Soviet military system, compared to [[TomClancy other authors]]. His description of Hameln is pretty accurate too.

to:

* ShownTheirWork: Peters was one of the few in the West to actually ‘’know’’ and not have a stereotyped view of the Soviet military system, compared to [[TomClancy other authors]]. His description of Hameln is pretty accurate too.


Added DiffLines:

** Combat also breaks out in the many towns. Hamlen in particular turns into a bloody quagmire for both Soviet and British.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Despite this, ''Red Army'' was mostly dissed by the critics who apparently couldn’t forgive Peters for letting [[TheEmpire the bad guys]] win. It also had the misfortune to be released in 1989 and thus became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the Gulf War occured, meaning that Peters was accused of overhyping the strength of America’s enemies. Make no mistake, however: at the time this was SeriousBusiness. To be fair, Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels assumed a complete 'best case' scenario for the Soviets, and indicates that he wrote the novel in part because [[TomClancy most of the other writers of World War III technothrillers at the time]] relied on a best-case scenario for NATO.

to:

Like ''RedStormRising'', it’s a highly educational read, and is surprisingly easy going since Peters avoids geeky details (he talks about 'tanks' and 'anti-air units' instead of 'T-80s' and 'ZSU-23-4s') and focuses squarely on the characters, every one of whom is properly fleshed-out and three-dimensional. Despite this, ''Red Army'' was mostly dissed by the critics who apparently couldn’t forgive Peters for letting [[TheEmpire the bad guys]] win. It also had the misfortune to be released in 1989 and thus became HilariousInHindsight when the mighty [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp broke up]] and the Gulf War GulfWar occured, meaning that Peters was accused of overhyping the strength of America’s enemies. Make no mistake, however: at the time this was SeriousBusiness. To be fair, Peters acknowledges in his afterword that his novels assumed a complete 'best case' scenario for the Soviets, and indicates that he wrote the novel in part because [[TomClancy most of the other writers of World War III technothrillers at the time]] relied on a best-case scenario for NATO.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


As the story opens, WorldWarIII has already started (Peters never does mention what started it) and the Red Army under [[OfficerAndAGentleman General Malinsky]] is about to attack across the plains of northern Germany. What follows is the theater-strategic operation NATO so feared during the Cold War, the mechanized Soviet armies splitting the alliance’s front and pouring across Germany too fast for their shocked high command to react.

to:

As the story opens, WorldWarIII has already started (Peters never does mention what started it) and the Red Army under [[OfficerAndAGentleman General Malinsky]] is about to attack across the plains of northern Germany. What follows is the theater-strategic operation NATO so feared during the Cold War, ColdWar, the mechanized Soviet armies splitting the alliance’s front and pouring across Germany too fast for their shocked high command to react.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


A novel by Ralph Peters, often counted among the techno-thriller genre thanks to its subject matter -- a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. Unlike other techno-thrillers, however, Peters wrote the entire story from the Soviet point of view, then went on to commit the faux pas of having the Soviets actually ''win'', something other [[TomClancy American writers]] would never dream of.

to:

A 1989 novel by Ralph Peters, often counted among the techno-thriller genre thanks to its subject matter -- a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. Unlike other techno-thrillers, however, Peters wrote the entire story from the Soviet point of view, then went on to commit the faux pas of having the Soviets actually ''win'', something other [[TomClancy American writers]] would never dream of.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ShownTheirWork: Peters was one of the few in the West to actually ‘’know’’ and not have a stereotyped view of the Soviet military system, compared to [[TomClancy other authors]].

to:

* ShownTheirWork: Peters was one of the few in the West to actually ‘’know’’ and not have a stereotyped view of the Soviet military system, compared to [[TomClancy other authors]]. His description of Hameln is pretty accurate too.



* TrappedBehindEnemyLines: Gordunov’s air assault battalion has the duty of securing the Weser-spanning bridges in Hameln, fifty kilometers behind [[BritsWithBattleships British]] lines.

to:

* TrappedBehindEnemyLines: Gordunov’s air assault battalion has the duty of securing the Weser-spanning bridges in Hameln, fifty kilometers behind [[BritsWithBattleships British]] British lines.

Added: 202

Changed: 16

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FriendOrFoe: [[spoiler:This is how Trimenko gets killed. His anti-aircraft units mistook his helicopter for an enemy, not helped that his pilot flew higher than normal to avoid striking power lines.]]



* UrbanWarfare: The Soviets avoid fighting in the cities to prevent losing operational tempo, but one divisional commander of Starukhin’s 3rd Shock Army draws himself into a bloody fight with the mixed West German and British elements trapped in Hannover.

to:

* UrbanWarfare: The Soviets avoid fighting in the cities to prevent losing operational tempo, but one divisional commander of Starukhin’s 3rd Shock Army draws himself into a bloody fight with the mixed West German and British elements trapped in Hannover. Not a pretty sight.

Added: 256

Changed: 4

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CavalryRefusal: Type B. The attack helicopters assigned to support Gordunov's air assault battalion pull off earlier than he expected, which promptly reminds him of a similar incident in Afghanistan where his company was ripped apart by a dushman ambush.



* LastStand: [[spoiler:When it's clear that no friendly armored forces are coming to link up with Gordunov’s battalion and the British troops keep on coming to recapture the bridges.]]

to:

* LastStand: [[spoiler:When it's clear that no friendly armored forces are coming to link up with Gordunov’s battalion and the British troops keep on coming to recapture the bridges.]]

Top