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** [[spoiler: Ilium (a.k.a. Troy) may also count, having received its fair share of damage from the Greek armies, wrathful gods, and quantum teleportation fields to the point that it is almost in ruins by the end, despite its ''Iliad'' -ordained fate being avoided.

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** [[spoiler: Ilium [[spoiler:Ilium (a.k.a. Troy) may also count, having received its fair share of damage from the Greek armies, wrathful gods, and quantum teleportation fields to the point that it is almost in ruins by the end, despite its ''Iliad'' -ordained fate being avoided.]]

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* DoomedHometown: [[spoiler: Ardis Hall for Ada. It survives the first book, but halfway through the second, it is burned to the ground by the Voynix in the second.]]
** [[spoiler: Ilium (a.k.a. Troy) may also count, having received its fair share of damage from the Greek armies, wrathful gods, and quantum teleportation fields to the point that it is almost in ruins by the end, despite its ''Iliad'' -ordained fate being avoided.



* {{Expy}}: Savi [=/=] [[spoiler: Moira]] is essentially [[spoiler: Rachel Wintraub of the ''Literature/HyperionCantos'']] placed into a new setting. Much like [[spoiler: Rachel, she can travel back and forth in time and her death brings rebirth for herself as "Moira" and the others of humankind. Heck, once Prospero even refers to her playfully as "Moneta", Rachel's nickname in the ''Cantos'']]
** It is explicitly stated that [[spoiler: Moira is a post-human who took over Savi's appearance, and is not actually Savi.]]

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* {{Expy}}: Savi [=/=] [[spoiler: Moira]] is essentially [[spoiler: Rachel Wintraub of the ''Literature/HyperionCantos'']] placed into a new setting. Much like [[spoiler: Rachel, she can travel back and forth in time and her death brings rebirth for herself as "Moira" and the others of humankind. Heck, once Prospero even refers to her playfully as "Moneta", Rachel's nickname in the ''Cantos'']]
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''Cantos'']]It is, however, explicitly stated that [[spoiler: Moira is a post-human who took over Savi's appearance, and is not actually Savi.]]


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* LudicrousGibs: [[spoiler:A vengeful Zeus invokes this after realizing Hera drugged him to take him out of the picture while she tried to restore status quo on Ilium-earth. Helen, when later recounting the scene to Hockenberry, explicitly uses the word ''destroyed'' to describe Hera's fate, and mentions that the [[ChunkySalsaRule pieces of Hera and her chariot that fell from the sky]] continued burning and sizzling for days.
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At the same time, near Jupiter, two "[[StarfishRobot moravecs]]" named Mahnmut and Orphu spend their time, when not mining the seas of Europa or flying around the Jupiter system, [[ConversationalTroping discussing ancient literature]], [[AuthorAppeal the likes of Shakespeare and Proust]]. Eventually, they notice [[ReadingsAreOffTheScale strange readings emanating]] from Mars, and determine that something there is [[RealityWarper warping reality]] to a degree which [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt could destroy the universe]]. Mahnmut and Orphu begin to journey towards Mars to investigate...

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At the same time, near Jupiter, two "[[StarfishRobot moravecs]]" named Mahnmut and Orphu spend their time, when not mining the seas of Europa or flying around the Jupiter system, [[ConversationalTroping discussing ancient literature]], [[AuthorAppeal the likes of Shakespeare and Proust]]. Eventually, they notice [[ReadingsAreOffTheScale strange readings emanating]] from Mars, and determine that something there is [[RealityWarper warping reality]] to a degree which [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt could destroy the universe]]. Mahnmut and Orphu begin to journey towards Mars with a small team to investigate...
investigate, unaware of the dangers that lurk on the mysterious Red Planet...
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* HandicappedBadass: Orphu gets blinded and immobilized by a god's plasma blast early in the first book, and spends the rest of the book and the entire second book blind due to permanent damage to his optic nerves, but that doesn't seem to slow him down. Even in his weakened state at the end of the first book, he still manages to take command of the rockvecs with the authority of a five-star general without question, and in the second book, he manages to figure out ''the entire background'' of the story using nothing but conjecture, observations, and his own knowledge of old world history.


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** Orphu of Io offhandedly mentions in the second book that he's ''1200 years old.'' Moravecs themselves live up to two or three centuries, which is impressive on its own, but considering that the TheSingularity happened 1400 years ago, that means Orphu was built a mere ''two'' centuries after it occurred.
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* RidiculouslyHumanRobots: An interesting version in the case of Moravecs and Rockvecs. They are not modified humans, being designed and built for their life tasks, but they do utilize pieces of organic matter and BioTech in their designs. On top of that, they're fully sentient, to the point of many taking interest in Old World human literature as a hobby of sort. Physically, few if any look even remotely human, ranging from small, only vaguely humanoid robots to enormous armored crabs the size of an SUV.
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It's Ilium, with one 'l', not Illium. The article title should also be changed.


''Illium'' is a SpeculativeFiction novel by writer Creator/DanSimmons. It's a sprawling epic story that is conveyed through three seemingly disconnected but intertwining narratives. Though it touches on many topics, the story is perhaps best described as a [[RecycledInSpace high-tech reenactment]] of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar.

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''Illium'' ''Ilium'' is a SpeculativeFiction novel by writer Creator/DanSimmons. It's a sprawling epic story that is conveyed through three seemingly disconnected but intertwining narratives. Though it touches on many topics, the story is perhaps best described as a [[RecycledInSpace high-tech reenactment]] of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar.



!''Illium'' and its sequel ''Olympos'' contain examples of the following tropes:

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!''Illium'' !''Ilium'' and its sequel ''Olympos'' contain examples of the following tropes:
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* JerkassGods: All of them, except for The Quiet.

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* JerkassGods: All almost all of them, except for The Quiet.Quiet. If they're not playing toy soldiers with actual people, they're plotting and scheming among themselves, or in some cases, doing both.
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* RageAgainstTheHeavens: The alliance between the Achaeans, the Trojans, and the moravecs going to war against the Olympians.
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* NewNeoCity: [[spoiler:New Ilium]].
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'''''Illium''''' is a SpeculativeFiction novel by writer Creator/DanSimmons. It's a sprawling epic story that is conveyed through three seemingly disconnected but intertwining narratives. Though it touches on many topics, the story is perhaps best described as a [[RecycledInSpace high-tech reenactment]] of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar.

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'''''Illium''''' ''Illium'' is a SpeculativeFiction novel by writer Creator/DanSimmons. It's a sprawling epic story that is conveyed through three seemingly disconnected but intertwining narratives. Though it touches on many topics, the story is perhaps best described as a [[RecycledInSpace high-tech reenactment]] of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar.
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* AGodAmI: Greek Gods, of course - but they are just little-g gods. [[spoiler: Later on Zeus goes on to delude himself into thinking he is the capital-G God, usurping Nix, the Fates, and possibly the actual capital-G God (referred to as The Quiet in-story). His comeuppance comes extremely swiftly at the hands of his son Achilles, leaving Hephaestus as the new lord of Olympos.]]

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* AGodAmI: The Greek Gods, of course - -- but they are just little-g gods. [[spoiler: Later on Zeus goes on to delude himself into thinking he is the capital-G God, usurping Nix, the Fates, and possibly the actual capital-G God (referred to as The Quiet in-story). His comeuppance comes extremely swiftly at the hands of his son Achilles, leaving Hephaestus as the new lord of Olympos.]]



* BashBrothers: Ajax and Teucer, as well as Agamemnon and Menelaus, just like in TheIlliad.

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* BashBrothers: Ajax and Teucer, as well as Agamemnon and Menelaus, just like in TheIlliad.Literature/TheIliad.



* EmpoweredBadassNormal: Just like in The Illiad,the Greek heroe Diomedes, gets some augmentations from Athena that allow him to go into a rampage and defeat Aphrodite and Ares as well as dozens of Trojan heroes.

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* EmpoweredBadassNormal: Just like in The Illiad,the the Iliad, the Greek heroe Diomedes, hero Diomedes gets some augmentations from Athena that allow him to go into a rampage and defeat Aphrodite and Ares as well as dozens of Trojan heroes.

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* {{Badass}}: Savi, Harman, [[spoiler:Daeman]] after some CharacterDevelopment.



* HeroOfAnotherStory: Koros III is simultaneously an ActionHero, GuileHero, and ScienceHero and is definitely a {{badass}} but he isn't a main character and his adventures are only alluded to by other characters.

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* HeroOfAnotherStory: Koros III is simultaneously an ActionHero, GuileHero, and ScienceHero and is definitely a {{badass}} badass but he isn't a main character and his adventures are only alluded to by other characters.

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** Ironically in the second book it's Hector of Troy who confines himself to his quarters in morning. [[spoiler: He snaps out of it when the Greeks breach the walls of Troy and kills Diomedes and Ajax.]]



* AGodAmI: Greek Gods, of course - but they are just little-g gods. [[spoiler: Later on Zeus goes on to delude himself into thinking he is the capital-G God, usurping Nix, the Fates, and possibly the actual capital-G God (referred to as the Quiet in-story). His comeuppance comes extremely swiftly at the hands of his son Achilles, leaving Hephaestus as the new lord of Olympos.]]

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* AGodAmI: Greek Gods, of course - but they are just little-g gods. [[spoiler: Later on Zeus goes on to delude himself into thinking he is the capital-G God, usurping Nix, the Fates, and possibly the actual capital-G God (referred to as the The Quiet in-story). His comeuppance comes extremely swiftly at the hands of his son Achilles, leaving Hephaestus as the new lord of Olympos.]]



* BashBrothers: Ajax and Teucer, as well as Agamemnon and Menelaus, just like in TheIlliad.



* TheBigGuy: Big Ajax serves this role for the Greeks, being the biggest and strongest of them.
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler: Ajax is killed by Hector halfway through the second book.]]



* CoolOldLady: Savi
* CoolOldGuy: Harman

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* CoolOldLady: Savi
Savi.
* CoolOldGuy: HarmanHarman and Odysseus.



* CulturedBadass: Ulysses, who at one recites a portion of his namesake poem that is perfectly apt to the circumstances.

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* CulturedBadass: Ulysses, Odysseus, who at one point recites a portion of his namesake poem that is perfectly apt to the circumstances.



* NobleDemon: Apollo, who is far more pleasant than the rest of the Greek gods.
* OmnicidalManiac: The Global Caliphate again.

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* NobleDemon: Apollo, Hephaestus, who is far more pleasant likable than the rest of the Greek gods.
Olympians.
* OmnicidalManiac: The Global Caliphate again.Caliphate, as well as Setebos and Caliban.
* OnlySaneMan: Hephaestus is the only Greek god who remembers being a human, as a result he is much more stable than the others.
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* EmpoweredBadassNormal: Just like in The Illiad, one of the Greek heroes Diomedes, gets some augmentations from Athena that allow him to go into a rampage and defeat Aphrodite and Ares as well as dozens of Trojan heroes.

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* EmpoweredBadassNormal: Just like in The Illiad, one of the Illiad,the Greek heroes heroe Diomedes, gets some augmentations from Athena that allow him to go into a rampage and defeat Aphrodite and Ares as well as dozens of Trojan heroes.

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* EmpoweredBadassNormal: Just like in The Illiad, one of the Greek heroes Diomedes, gets some augmentations from Athena that allow him to go into a rampage and defeat Aphrodite and Ares as well as dozens of Trojan heroes.



* NobelDemon: Apollo, who is far more pleasant than the rest of the Greek gods.

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* NobelDemon: NobleDemon: Apollo, who is far more pleasant than the rest of the Greek gods.


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* WorldOfBadass: Even characters like Daeman and Hockenberry get their moments.
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* MentorOccupationalHazard: [[spoiler: Savi]]


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* NobelDemon: Apollo, who is far more pleasant than the rest of the Greek gods.
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* JerkassGods: All of them.

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* JerkassGods: All of them.them, except for The Quiet.



* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: This is what happens when the entire cast of ''Literature/TheIliad'', a resurrected Scholic, two sentient robot creatures, and a band of five old style humans on earth in one story. It's no wonder that the novels are ''huge.''

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: This is what happens when the entire cast of ''Literature/TheIliad'', a resurrected Scholic, two scholar from the 21st century, several sentient robot creatures, and a band of five old style humans on earth in one story. It's no wonder that the novels are ''huge.''
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: Koros III is simultaneously an ActionHero, GuileHero, and ScienceHero and is definitely a {{badass}} but he isn't a main character and his adventures are only alluded to by other characters.

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* MayDecemberRomance: Ada and Harman. Also Hannah and Odysseus.

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* MayDecemberRomance: Ada ManOnFire: The deaths of [[spoiler: Dionysus and Harman. Also Hannah and Odysseus.Oenone.]]


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* MayDecemberRomance: Ada and Harman. Also Hannah and Odysseus.


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* WorthyOpponent: Paris and Apollo have a mutual respect for each other, despite being enemies. [[spoiler: When Paris is mortally wounded Apollo even tries to save his life.]]
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** [[spoiler: Except Savi...]]
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Not everyone lives, therefore this trope is inaccurate.


* [[spoiler:EverybodyLives]]: Surprisingly enough.
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* ViewersAreGeniuses: One can only fully understand every reference after studying Homer's ''Literature/TheIliad'', ''Literature/TheOdyssey'', and Shakespeare's ''Theatre/TheTempest'', Browning's 'Caliban upon Setebos' and also have some familiarity with TheTimeMachine, the complete works of Marcel Proust, Shakespeare's sonnets, and Hans Moravec's writings. They should know a decent amount about quantum physics, the Voynich manuscript, terraforming, transhumanism, and biosphere theory. Even then... no guarantees you'll get everything.

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: One can only fully understand every reference after studying Homer's ''Literature/TheIliad'', ''Literature/TheOdyssey'', and Shakespeare's ''Theatre/TheTempest'', Browning's 'Caliban upon Setebos' and also have some familiarity with TheTimeMachine, ''Literature/TheTimeMachine'', the complete works of Marcel Proust, Shakespeare's sonnets, and Hans Moravec's writings. They should know a decent amount about quantum physics, the Voynich manuscript, terraforming, transhumanism, and biosphere theory. Even then... no guarantees you'll get everything.
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* AIIsACrapshoot: The "Allnet", which expanded out of control and took over, resulting in humanity reverting back into a satiated, indolent, [[TheTimeMachine Eloi]]-like state.

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* AIIsACrapshoot: The "Allnet", which expanded out of control and took over, resulting in humanity reverting back into a satiated, indolent, [[TheTimeMachine [[Literature/TheTimeMachine Eloi]]-like state.
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* DoubleStandardRapeSciFi: Hockenberry takes the form of Paris and sleeps with Helen. When she discovers her partner is not Paris, she doesn't mind and asks for more.
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* ViewersAreGeniuses: One can only fully understand every reference after studying Homer's ''Literature/TheIliad'', ''Literature/TheOdyssey'', and Shakespeare's ''Theatre/TheTempest'', Browning's 'Caliban upon Setebos' and also have some familiarity with TheTimeMachine, the complete works of Marcel Proust, Shakespeare's sonnets, and Hans Moravec's writings. They should know a decent amount about quantum physics, the Voynich manuscript, terraforming, transhumanism, and biosphere theory. Even then...no guarantees you'll get everything.

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: One can only fully understand every reference after studying Homer's ''Literature/TheIliad'', ''Literature/TheOdyssey'', and Shakespeare's ''Theatre/TheTempest'', Browning's 'Caliban upon Setebos' and also have some familiarity with TheTimeMachine, the complete works of Marcel Proust, Shakespeare's sonnets, and Hans Moravec's writings. They should know a decent amount about quantum physics, the Voynich manuscript, terraforming, transhumanism, and biosphere theory. Even then... no guarantees you'll get everything.
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* MiddleEasternCoalition: The now defunct Global Caliphate, which was responsible for the the loss of much of the world's population.

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* MiddleEasternCoalition: The now defunct Global Caliphate, which was responsible for the the loss of much of the world's population.
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* MassiveMultiplayerCrossover: Let's see...we have a re-enaction of the epic poem of Homer, two sci-fi robot creatures, and the people of an Earth that no longer remembers how to live (as they have essentially become [[ShoutOut Eloi]]) and [[spoiler: the Reveal that another time traveller shares the same name as one from another continuity; the ''Literature/HyperionCantos''. However, when you put the two together the facts match up: Moira is Jewish, as is Rachel, and they both are described as having dark hair and being able to travel through time, having a small romance of some sort.]] Put 'em all together and you get a work like this one.

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* MassiveMultiplayerCrossover: Let's see... we have a re-enaction of the epic poem of Homer, two sci-fi robot creatures, and the people of an Earth that no longer remembers how to live (as they have essentially become [[ShoutOut Eloi]]) and [[spoiler: the Reveal that another time traveller shares the same name as one from another continuity; the ''Literature/HyperionCantos''. However, when you put the two together the facts match up: Moira is Jewish, as is Rachel, and they both are described as having dark hair and being able to travel through time, having a small romance of some sort.]] Put 'em all together and you get a work like this one.
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Meanwhile, on Earth, humanity seems to be hugely reduced in population; the few societies that exist [[{{Utopia}} have everything they could ever want]], due to instantaneous teleportation and advanced technology, but they [[CrapsaccharineWorld live in relative ignorance of the past]]. A young man named Daeman struggles to make his cousin Ada [[KissingCousins notice him]], but she only has eyes for an older man named Harman. Along with Ada's friend Hannah, the four are set off on a journey to figure out what's wrong with the world...why are there [[WorldHalfEmpty so few people]]? And why is there a [[AlienSky giant ring in the sky]]?

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Meanwhile, on Earth, humanity seems to be hugely reduced in population; the few societies that exist [[{{Utopia}} have everything they could ever want]], due to instantaneous teleportation and advanced technology, but they [[CrapsaccharineWorld live in relative ignorance of the past]]. A young man named Daeman struggles to make his cousin Ada [[KissingCousins notice him]], but she only has eyes for an older man named Harman. Along with Ada's friend Hannah, the four are set off on a journey to figure out what's wrong with the world... why are there [[WorldHalfEmpty so few people]]? And why is there a [[AlienSky giant ring in the sky]]?
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Professor Thomas Hockenberry, a Homeric scholar [[FishOutOfTemporalWater from the 20th century]], finds himself resurrected in the far future by [[Myth/ClassicalMythology the Greek Gods]]...[[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane except not really]]. In fact they're post-humans ''pretending'' to be the Greek gods, and they're [[CosmicChessGame amusing themselves]] by re-enacting the entire Trojan War on a terraformed Mars. And it's Thomas's job to compare the events of the re-enactment to actual history.

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Professor Thomas Hockenberry, a Homeric scholar [[FishOutOfTemporalWater from the 20th century]], finds himself resurrected in the far future by [[Myth/ClassicalMythology the Greek Gods]]... [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane except not really]]. In fact they're post-humans ''pretending'' to be the Greek gods, and they're [[CosmicChessGame amusing themselves]] by re-enacting the entire Trojan War on a terraformed Mars. And it's Thomas's job to compare the events of the re-enactment to actual history.
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Professor Thomas Hockenberry, a Homeric scholar [[FishOutOfTemporalWater from the 20th century]], finds himself resurrected in the far future by [[ClassicalMythology the Greek Gods]]...[[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane except not really]]. In fact they're post-humans ''pretending'' to be the Greek gods, and they're [[CosmicChessGame amusing themselves]] by re-enacting the entire Trojan War on a terraformed Mars. And it's Thomas's job to compare the events of the re-enactment to actual history.

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Professor Thomas Hockenberry, a Homeric scholar [[FishOutOfTemporalWater from the 20th century]], finds himself resurrected in the far future by [[ClassicalMythology [[Myth/ClassicalMythology the Greek Gods]]...[[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane except not really]]. In fact they're post-humans ''pretending'' to be the Greek gods, and they're [[CosmicChessGame amusing themselves]] by re-enacting the entire Trojan War on a terraformed Mars. And it's Thomas's job to compare the events of the re-enactment to actual history.

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