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* In ''Manga/OnePunchMan'' the hero known as Sweet Mask is notable for being extremely concerned about the reputation of A and S-class Heroes, showing very little sympathy for the ones who got put in the hospital by the Deep Sea King right before he states this. He's completely right about the reputations, as A and S-clss Heroes have an enormous mediatic exposure that makes them important role models and [[HopeBringer a good reason to not despair even in the presence of the worst monsters]]-and his point is apparently shared by Saitama, who, after easily taking out the Deep Sea King, claims he could do so only because the other heroes weakened him first and the monster was pretty much running on fumes so the public would continue respect them, and silently proven by Watchdog Man, that live in a city whose inhabitants fear no monster attack because they ''know'' any monster attack will be swiftly dealt with and adore him for this. That and the Hero Association, humanity's main and last line of defense against monster attacks, is a no-profit organization that depends on donations from the people to work, and if the people lose faith in their highest-ranked heroes then said donations would dry up and leave humanity defenseless.

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* In ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Yukari calls Nyamo out for getting drunk and telling the girls all about sex while wasted, since Nyamo was trying to keep the beer away from ''Yukari'', but Yukari points out Nyamo is NotSoAboveItAll.



** At the beginning of the Arrancar Arc, Grimmjow points out it's a mistake to let Ichigo live. He's right.

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** At the beginning of the Arrancar Arc, Grimmjow points out it's a mistake to let Ichigo live. [[PragmaticVillainy He's right.]]



* Shouta Aizawa from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. Which makes him come off as a callous jerk. However as heroes in training his students are expected to face danger on a regular basis. With not just their own lives, but the lives of others on the line. It would be cruel and irresponsible of him ''not'' to fail someone who lacks the potential. Better to crush their dreams outright rather then let them get their hopes up, or allow someone unqualified pass when it could lead to them or others being hurt or killed as a result. Furthermore, he is willing to stick up for his students and offer advice while not afraid to show some pride in them.

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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. Which makes him come off as a callous jerk. However as heroes in training his students are expected to face danger on a regular basis. With not just their own lives, but the lives of others on the line. It would be cruel and irresponsible of him ''not'' to fail someone who lacks the potential. Better to crush their dreams outright rather then let them get their hopes up, or allow someone unqualified pass when it could lead to them or others being hurt or killed as a result. [[JerkWithAHeartofGold Furthermore, he is willing to stick up for his students and offer advice while not afraid to show some pride in them.]]


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** He also complains that his internship at Best Jeanist's was an utter waste of his time, which does hold some merit considering Best Jeanist seemed more interested in lecturing him, combing his hair and making Bakugou wear jeans than teaching him anything practical he could use.
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** He derides Midoriya during the Quirk apprehension test and threatens to expel him for this reason. While mean, he's completely in the right to question how he expects to become a hero when he [[AwesomeButImpractical injures himself just using his Quirk]] and would need his teammates to save him in battle, making him a liability. Thus, when Deku manages to find a way around this (just focusing him on the finger), Aizawa actually smiles, stunned at how he was able to come up with a clever solution.

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** He derides Midoriya during the Quirk apprehension test and threatens to expel him for this reason. While mean, he's completely in the right to question how he expects to become a hero when he [[AwesomeButImpractical injures himself just using his Quirk]] and would need his teammates to save him in battle, making him a liability. Thus, when , Deku manages to find a way around this (just focusing him on the finger), Aizawa actually smiles, stunned at how he was able to come up with a clever solution. finger).



** Even Bakugou himself gets one. During the School Festival arc, he notices the resentment the general students have toward the Hero class and he bluntly points out that they cannot just walk on eggshells for something that they (the hero class) have no control over, pointing out that the other students don't deserve Class 1-A's courtesy when they fail to appreciate how traumatic it was for the class to get attacked by villains.

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** Even Bakugou himself gets one. During one during the School Festival arc, he notices the resentment the general students have toward the Hero class and he bluntly points out that they cannot just walk on eggshells for something that they (the hero class) have no control over, pointing out that the other students don't deserve Class 1-A's courtesy when they fail to appreciate how traumatic it was for the class to get attacked by villains.

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** Galliard snidely tells [[spoiler: Reiner]] if he was the one to inherit [[spoiler: the Armored Titan]] instead of the latter, their mission to [[spoiler: the Paradis island]] would have been more successful and even asked the latter if they had accomplished anything at all or if they needed to be saved all the time. While this was a horrible thing to say to someone who is suffering from PTSD, it was hard to deny that [[spoiler: Reiner]] did have to be constantly saved by others, such as [[spoiler: Marcel pushing Reiner away from being eaten by Ymir, Bertolt transforming over Reiner and Eren so they could capture Eren, Ymir saving him and Bertolt from Titans, Zeke and Pieck rescuing him in the battle of Shiganshima]]. Though it's debatable whether Galliard would have done any better if he was sent instead.

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** Galliard snidely tells [[spoiler: Reiner]] if he was the one to inherit [[spoiler: the Armored Titan]] instead of the latter, their mission to [[spoiler: the Paradis island]] would have been more successful and even asked the latter if they had accomplished anything at all or if they needed to be saved all the time. While this was a horrible thing to say to someone who is suffering from PTSD, it was hard to deny that [[spoiler: Reiner]] did have to be constantly saved by others, such as [[spoiler: Marcel pushing Reiner away from being eaten by Ymir, Bertolt transforming over Reiner and Eren so they could capture Eren, Ymir saving him and Bertolt from Titans, Zeke and Pieck rescuing him in the battle of Shiganshima]]. [[spoiler:Reiner]] says, in almost as many words, that Galliard is completely right. Though it's debatable whether Galliard would have done any better if he was sent instead.



* Early on in the anime version of ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'' Kodama, a fairly sociopathic young boy, casually states that he somewhat admires Ushiro, a boy who [[AccidentalMurder supposedly killed Waku by accidentally pushing him off of Zearth]]([[spoiler:in actuality, he died from Zearth draining his life force, and was dead before he hit the water]]), since it means he already has experience taking life. The others nearby are horrified, but Kodama ends up being vindicated. Not only are there massive civilian casualties in some of their battles, but [[spoiler:each time they win, the loser's universe is destroyed]].



** [[GoodIsNotNice While he's typically the hero]], Muhyo sends the spirit of Fujiwara to the equivalent of purgatory, saying that his loss against a rain dog was proof of "ineptitude or negligence, neither of which earns (Muhyo's) sympathy". Roji, despite being typically idealistic and kind-hearted, doesn't question this but does question why Muhyo is performing so many sentencings and using up his tempering even before facing [[ArcVillain Sophie]].

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** [[GoodIsNotNice While he's typically the hero]], Muhyo sends the spirit of Fujiwara to the equivalent of purgatory, saying that his loss against a rain dog was proof of "ineptitude or negligence, neither of which earns (Muhyo's) sympathy". Roji, [[NiceGuy Roji]], despite being typically idealistic and kind-hearted, doesn't question this decision, but does question why Muhyo is performing so many sentencings and using up his tempering even before facing [[ArcVillain Sophie]].



** He derides Midoriya during the Quirk apprehension test and threatens to expel him for this reason. While mean he's completely in the right to question how he expects to become a hero when he [[AwesomeButImpractical injures himself just using his Quirk]] and would need his teammates to save him in battle, making him a liability. Thus, when Deku manages to find a way around this (just focusing him on the finger), Aizawa actually smiles, stunned at how he was able to come up with a clever solution.
** There’s also HeroKiller Stain. On the surface, it's easy to write off his beliefs[[note]]that a hero must be motivated purely by a selfless desire to help people and that anyone who strays from that definition in even the slightest is a fake who must be killed[[/note]] as those of a crazed fundamentalist (heck, he ''crippled'' Iida's brother despite being a kind, hard-woring and compassionate hero, just because he saw his heroic duties as part of the family business rather than true alturism.)) However, coming right after an arc which put a massive focus on Todoroki and his father (Endevour, the number two hero) who is revealed to be a horribly abusive father and husband who only cares about his own personal advancement, even characters like [[{{Protagonist}} Midorya]] admit that Stain's assertions that the Hero System has serious flaws carry weight.

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** He derides Midoriya during the Quirk apprehension test and threatens to expel him for this reason. While mean mean, he's completely in the right to question how he expects to become a hero when he [[AwesomeButImpractical injures himself just using his Quirk]] and would need his teammates to save him in battle, making him a liability. Thus, when Deku manages to find a way around this (just focusing him on the finger), Aizawa actually smiles, stunned at how he was able to come up with a clever solution.
** There’s also HeroKiller Stain. On the surface, it's easy to write off his beliefs[[note]]that a hero must be motivated purely by a selfless desire to help people and that anyone who strays from that definition in even the slightest is a fake who must be killed[[/note]] as those of a crazed fundamentalist (heck, he ''crippled'' Iida's brother despite being a kind, hard-woring and compassionate hero, just because he saw his heroic duties as part of the family business rather than true alturism.altruism.)) However, coming right after an arc which put a massive focus on Todoroki and his father (Endevour, the number two hero) who is revealed to be a horribly abusive father and husband who only cares about his own personal advancement, even characters like [[{{Protagonist}} Midorya]] admit that Stain's assertions that the Hero System has serious flaws carry weight.
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** Kumagawa does it again in Chapter 174. [[spoiler: While erasing Zenkichi from existence was quite extreme, it manages to force Shiranui to admit her true feelings rather than continuing her JerkassFacade.]]

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** Kumagawa does it again in Chapter 174. [[spoiler: While erasing Zenkichi from existence was quite extreme, it manages to force Shiranui to admit her true feelings rather than continuing her JerkassFacade.facade.]]
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** Galliard snidely tells [[spoiler: Reiner]] if he was the one to inherit [[spoiler: the Armored Titan]] instead of the latter, their mission to [[spoiler: the Paradis island]] would have been more successful and even asked the latter if they had accomplished anything at all or if they needed to be saved all the time. While this was a horrible thing to say to someone who is suffering from PTSD, it was hard to deny that [[spoiler: Reiner]] did have to be constantly saved by others, such as [[spoiler: Marcel pushing Reiner away from being eaten by Ymir, Bertolt transforming over Reiner and Eren so they could capture Eren, Ymir saving him and Bertolt from Titans, Zeke and Pieck rescuing him in the battle of Shiganshima]]. Though it's debatable whether Galliard would have done any better if he was sent instead.
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* ''Manga/AngelSanctuary'': Setsuna and Sara's mother. She's ignorant and distant to her son, overprotective of her daughter, and goes to extreme lengths to keep the two separated. [[JustifiedTrope Rightfully so]], as the two of them have [[BrotherSisterIncest incestuous feelings]] for each other. No matter how cruel she may appear in keeping her children apart, she has good reason to do so.

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* ''Manga/AngelSanctuary'': Setsuna and Sara's mother. She's ignorant Her son gets ignored, snapped at, and distant to blamed for getting Sara into dangerous situations, and does her son, overprotective of best to separate her daughter, and goes to extreme lengths to keep the two separated. [[JustifiedTrope Rightfully so]], as the two of them have children. And Setsuna agrees with her on a level because they both know that he has [[BrotherSisterIncest incestuous feelings]] for each other. No matter how cruel she may appear in Sara, and keeping her children apart, she has good reason to do so.them apart will keep Sara 'safe' from him.
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** Hitoshi Shinsou is a manipulative and resentful student from the general course classes at U.A. who uses his Brainwashing quirk on others and even his teammates during the Sports Festival. His claims of there being a bias towards combat quirks which makes it harder for WeakButSkilled students like himself to be recognized still holds water though. With Aizawa agreeing that the entrance exam is unfair, and several Pro Heroes acknowledging his potential as a hero. He does TakeALevelInKindness after his fight with Deku (whom Deku won without using his Quirk).
** Even Bakugou himself gets one. During the School Festival arc, he notices the resentment the general students have toward the Hero class and he bluntly points out that they cannot just walk on eggshells for something that they (the hero class) have no control over.

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** Hitoshi Shinsou is a manipulative and resentful student from the general course classes at U.A. who uses his Brainwashing quirk on others and even his teammates during the Sports Festival. His claims of there being a bias towards combat quirks which makes it harder for WeakButSkilled students like himself to be recognized still holds water though. With Aizawa agreeing that the entrance exam is unfair, and several Pro Heroes acknowledging his potential as a hero. He does TakeALevelInKindness after his fight with Deku (whom Deku won without using his Quirk).\n
** Even Bakugou himself gets one. During the School Festival arc, he notices the resentment the general students have toward the Hero class and he bluntly points out that they cannot just walk on eggshells for something that they (the hero class) have no control over.over, pointing out that the other students don't deserve Class 1-A's courtesy when they fail to appreciate how traumatic it was for the class to get attacked by villains.

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* In ''Anime/SailorMoon'', Rei/Sailor Mars may be a bitch and an unsympathetic bully towards Usagi, but sometimes, she is angry out of frustration for having to deal with somebody as irresponsible and lazy as Usagi, as Usagi at first does not take her Sailor Scout duties seriously. This is pointed out when Makoto once gets angry at Rei and accuses her of wanting Usagi to be hurt, but Rei tells her that she's just as worried as Makoto and the other girls are.
** At the end of Sailor Moon S, Haruka and Michiru angrily call out Usagi on her handling of Pharoah 90. They say that while it is true the world was saved, Usagi acted rashly due to her idealism of wanting to save everyone, pointing out that it's selfish. Because of it, Usagi nearly doomed the whole world. Haruka and Michiru also point out that it was only dumb luck that things worked out in the end since Usagi had no idea how things would've went. They drive it further home saying someone with such flawed idealism has no right to be named a future ruler as they view that kind of person as irresponsible.

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Rei/Sailor Mars may be a bitch and an unsympathetic bully towards Usagi, but sometimes, she is angry out of frustration for having to deal with somebody as irresponsible and lazy as Usagi, as Usagi at first does not take her Sailor Scout duties seriously. This is pointed out when Makoto once gets angry at Rei and accuses her of wanting Usagi to be hurt, but Rei tells her that she's just as worried as Makoto and the other girls are.
** Shingo often acts like a rude and snarky AnnoyingYoungerSibling to Usagi, but unlike many other examples, it goes beyond a need to get a rise out of his sister. He's a lot like Rei: he loves Usagi but is annoyed with how lazy and irresponsible she can be. Even their normally compassionate mother can't deny that Shingo is right a lot of the time in his remarks.
** At the end of Sailor ''Sailor Moon S, S'', Haruka and Michiru angrily call out Usagi on her handling of Pharoah 90. They say that while it is true the world was saved, Usagi acted rashly due to her idealism of wanting to save everyone, pointing out that it's selfish. Because of it, Usagi nearly doomed the whole world. Haruka and Michiru also point out that it was only dumb luck that things worked out in the end since Usagi had no idea how things would've went. They drive it further home saying someone with such flawed idealism has no right to be named a future ruler as they view that kind of person as irresponsible.



* In ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', during the Mother's Rosario arc, Asuna's mother, Kyouko Yuuki, is trying to make her transfer out of the Sword Art Online Survivors' School, as well as accept an ArrangedMarriage (or failing that, marry someone who ''isn't'' from her current school- i.e. Kirito). Kyouko describes the SAO Survivors' School as little more than a correctional facility, since its lenient terms for admission seem too good to be true, and serve to let the government monitor the survivors for potentially antisocial behavior. Her point echoes one that Kirito made while talking to Suguha back in the Alfheim arc, and Asuna can't articulate a rebuttal to it, although she likes the school well enough to not want to leave.


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* In ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', during the Mother's Rosario arc, Asuna's mother, Kyouko Yuuki, is trying to make her transfer out of the Sword Art Online Survivors' School, as well as accept an ArrangedMarriage (or failing that, marry someone who ''isn't'' from her current school- i.e. Kirito). Kyouko describes the SAO Survivors' School as little more than a correctional facility, since its lenient terms for admission seem too good to be true, and serve to let the government monitor the survivors for potentially antisocial behavior. Her point echoes one that Kirito made while talking to Suguha back in the Alfheim arc, and Asuna can't articulate a rebuttal to it, although she likes the school well enough to not want to leave.

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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. Which makes him come off as a callous jerk. However as heroes in training his students are expected to face danger on a regular basis. With not just their own lives, but the lives of others on the line. It would be cruel and irresponsible of him ''not'' to fail someone who lacks the potential. Better to crush their dreams outright rather then let them get their hopes up, or allow someone unqualified pass when it could lead to them or others being hurt or killed as a result.
** He derides Midoriya during the Quirk apprehension test and threatens to expel him for this reason. While mean he's completely in the right to question how he expects to become a hero when he [[AwesomeButImpractical injures himself just using his Quirk]] and would need his teammates to save him in battle, making him a liability.
** There’s also HeroKiller Stain. On the surface, it's easy to write off his beliefs[[note]]that a hero must be motivated purely by a selfless desire to help people and that anyone who strays from that definition in even the slightest is a fake who must be killed[[/note]] as those of a crazed fundamentalist. However, coming right after an arc which put a massive focus on Todoroki and his father (Endevour, the number two hero) who is revealed to be a horribly abusive father and husband who only cares about his own personal advancement, even characters like [[{{Protagonist}} Midorya]] admit that Stain's assertions that the Hero System has serious flaws carry weight.
** Hitoshi Shinsou is a manipulative and resentful student from the general course classes at U.A. who uses his Brainwashing quirk on others and even his teammates during the Sports Festival. His claims of there being a bias towards combat quirks which makes it harder for WeakButSkilled students like himself to be recognized still holds water though. With Aizawa agreeing that the entrance exam is unfair, and several Pro Heroes acknowledging his potential as a hero.

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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. Which makes him come off as a callous jerk. However as heroes in training his students are expected to face danger on a regular basis. With not just their own lives, but the lives of others on the line. It would be cruel and irresponsible of him ''not'' to fail someone who lacks the potential. Better to crush their dreams outright rather then let them get their hopes up, or allow someone unqualified pass when it could lead to them or others being hurt or killed as a result. \n Furthermore, he is willing to stick up for his students and offer advice while not afraid to show some pride in them.
** He derides Midoriya during the Quirk apprehension test and threatens to expel him for this reason. While mean he's completely in the right to question how he expects to become a hero when he [[AwesomeButImpractical injures himself just using his Quirk]] and would need his teammates to save him in battle, making him a liability.
liability. Thus, when Deku manages to find a way around this (just focusing him on the finger), Aizawa actually smiles, stunned at how he was able to come up with a clever solution.
** There’s also HeroKiller Stain. On the surface, it's easy to write off his beliefs[[note]]that a hero must be motivated purely by a selfless desire to help people and that anyone who strays from that definition in even the slightest is a fake who must be killed[[/note]] as those of a crazed fundamentalist. fundamentalist (heck, he ''crippled'' Iida's brother despite being a kind, hard-woring and compassionate hero, just because he saw his heroic duties as part of the family business rather than true alturism.)) However, coming right after an arc which put a massive focus on Todoroki and his father (Endevour, the number two hero) who is revealed to be a horribly abusive father and husband who only cares about his own personal advancement, even characters like [[{{Protagonist}} Midorya]] admit that Stain's assertions that the Hero System has serious flaws carry weight.
** Hitoshi Shinsou is a manipulative and resentful student from the general course classes at U.A. who uses his Brainwashing quirk on others and even his teammates during the Sports Festival. His claims of there being a bias towards combat quirks which makes it harder for WeakButSkilled students like himself to be recognized still holds water though. With Aizawa agreeing that the entrance exam is unfair, and several Pro Heroes acknowledging his potential as a hero. He does TakeALevelInKindness after his fight with Deku (whom Deku won without using his Quirk).
** Even Bakugou himself gets one. During the School Festival arc, he notices the resentment the general students have toward the Hero class and he bluntly points out that they cannot just walk on eggshells for something that they (the hero class) have no control over.



** Orochimaru was the one who gave Tsunade the idea of starting a unit of medical ninjas to minimize battlefield casualties, though that was way before he turned to full-blown villainy. He was a recognized hero of Konoha, pegged to be the next Hokage and genuinely her friend at the time. Though he never ''was'' nice, even then, so the trope still applies.

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** Orochimaru was the one who gave Tsunade the idea of starting a unit of medical ninjas to minimize battlefield casualties, though that was way before he turned to full-blown villainy. He was a recognized hero of Konoha, pegged to be the next Hokage and genuinely her friend at the time. Though he never ''was'' nice, even then, so the The trope still applies.somewhat applies as he was still at least a bit creepy, but not a jerk per-say.

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*** At the end of the Future Trunks Saga, he coldly tells Gowasu to choose his apprentices more carefully in the future. Considering the fact that Gowasu proved to be a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter in regards to [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Zamasu]] and failed to notice his growing darkness until it was almost too late, and also [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom told him about the Time Rings and Super Dragon Balls]], both of which proved crucial to Zamasu's plans, he's not wrong.

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** Hitoshi Shinsou is a manipulative and resentful student from the general course classes at U.A. who taunts and trash talks his opponents in order to get under their skin and using his Brainwashing quirk to make others do all of the work for him. Despite this his belief that there is an unfair bias towards combat oriented Quirks, which makes it harder for students with less powerful but still useful abilities like himself to be recognized holds water. With Aizawa sharing his opinion of the entrance exam being biased, and several Pro Heroes who observe his match against Midoriya acknowledging his potential as a hero.

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** Hitoshi Shinsou is a manipulative and resentful student from the general course classes at U.A. who taunts and trash talks his opponents in order to get under their skin and using uses his Brainwashing quirk to make on others do all of and even his teammates during the work for him. Despite this his belief that Sports Festival. His claims of there is an unfair being a bias towards combat oriented Quirks, quirks which makes it harder for WeakButSkilled students with less powerful but still useful abilities like himself to be recognized still holds water. water though. With Aizawa sharing his opinion of agreeing that the entrance exam being biased, is unfair, and several Pro Heroes who observe his match against Midoriya acknowledging his potential as a hero.
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** As obnoxious as Chi-Chi can be (mostly anime), she has a point in not trusting Piccolo too easily. Keep in mind, Piccolo was once a threat to the universe. She had witnessed him beat the shit out of Goku and put a gaping hole through Goku's body. So it was only natural of her to freak out when she finds out that he killed Goku (granted Goku wanted Piccolo to do it, but it still counts) and then kidnapped her (then) 4-year old son. She also constantly protests against Gohan being too young to engage in battles against villains. Even other characters admit that Gohan (along with Goten and Trunks) were too young to battle against deadly villains in the first place.
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** After being knocked out of the arena, Jiren proceed to insult Toppo for it, even calling him pathetic. While it comes across as a assholish move for him to insult his leader after being eliminated, he has every right to berate him given that Toppo is fully willing to sacrifice his principles just for the sake of more power and in spite of this, he still loses by someone who doesn't sacrifice his principles just for more power and in fact stays true to it the the point that Jiren sincerely compliments him for it.
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** Vegeta gets another one after beating Android 19 so thoroughly that 19 flips out and tries to make a break for it, to which Dr. Gero/Android 20 shouts at Vegeta that it's enough. As Vegeta rightfully points out in response, Gero and 19 had clearly come all this way to destroy him and the other Z Fighters, and [[MoralMyopia it's only "enough" because they're losing]].

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** *** Vegeta gets another one after beating Android 19 so thoroughly that 19 flips out and tries to make a break for it, to which Dr. Gero/Android 20 shouts at Vegeta that it's enough. As Vegeta rightfully points out in response, Gero and 19 had clearly come all this way to destroy him and the other Z Fighters, and [[MoralMyopia it's only "enough" because they're losing]].



** He also berates Goku for his naive nature, stating that it's dangerous to the universe. Remember that Goku spared Frieza, who tried to destroy Earth twice (and succeeds in the latter case; only Whis' TimeMaster abilities averted it), his fighty-happy nature led to Zamasu's StartOfDarkness and destruction of Future multiverse, etc.
** At the end of the Future Trunks Saga, he coldly tells Gowasu to choose his apprentices more carefully in the future. Considering the fact that Gowasu proved to be a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter in regards to [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Zamasu]] and failed to notice his growing darkness until it was almost too late, and also [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom told him about the Time Rings and Super Dragon Balls]], both of which proved crucial to Zamasu's plans, he's not wrong.

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** *** He also berates Goku for his naive nature, stating that it's dangerous to the universe. Remember that Goku spared Frieza, who tried to destroy Earth twice (and succeeds in the latter case; only Whis' TimeMaster abilities averted it), his fighty-happy nature led to Zamasu's StartOfDarkness and destruction of Future multiverse, etc.
** *** At the end of the Future Trunks Saga, he coldly tells Gowasu to choose his apprentices more carefully in the future. Considering the fact that Gowasu proved to be a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter in regards to [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Zamasu]] and failed to notice his growing darkness until it was almost too late, and also [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom told him about the Time Rings and Super Dragon Balls]], both of which proved crucial to Zamasu's plans, he's not wrong.

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** Vegeta killing Burter and Recoome in cold blood after Goku defeated them. Goku states that Vegeta was being cruel, but Vegeta then retorts that their deaths were deserved, especially since Gohan and Krillin were on the verge of death, and that they had killed countless people under Frieza's orders. While Goku states that having a little compassion isn't a disadvantage, sparing the Ginyu Force would have caused far more harm than good. This is further emphasized later on when Goku spares their even more sadistic leader Frieza's life at least twice - which only prompts Frieza [[UngratefulBastard to try to]] [[TheFarmerAndTheViper stab Goku in the back]] [[BackstabBackfire both times]]; though, to be fair, Goku only spared Frieza the first time out of CruelMercy instead, ''not'' compassion.
** After saving the heart virus-stricken Goku from being killed by Android 19, Vegeta proceeds to chew him out for it, reminding Goku that he was ''warned'' about the heart virus and should have known that fighting in his condition, let alone going [[SuperMode Super Saiyan]], would have only made it worse.

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*** When he was
killing Burter and Recoome in cold blood after Goku defeated them. them, Goku states that Vegeta was being cruel, but Vegeta then retorts that their deaths were deserved, especially since Gohan and Krillin were on the verge of death, and that they had killed countless people under Frieza's orders. While Goku states that having a little compassion isn't a disadvantage, sparing the Ginyu Force would have caused far more harm than good. This is further emphasized later on when Goku spares their even more sadistic leader Frieza's life at least twice - which only prompts Frieza [[UngratefulBastard to try to]] [[TheFarmerAndTheViper stab Goku in the back]] [[BackstabBackfire both times]]; though, to be fair, Goku only spared Frieza the first time out of CruelMercy instead, ''not'' compassion.
** *** After saving the heart virus-stricken Goku from being killed by Android 19, Vegeta proceeds to chew him out for it, reminding Goku that he was ''warned'' about the heart virus and should have known that fighting in his condition, let alone going [[SuperMode Super Saiyan]], would have only made it worse.



** Although Vegeta was too harsh with Gohan about him getting weaker in the Buu saga and how his fight with Dabura was a "disgrace," he made a good point: Gohan was struggling against a foe that, seven years ago, he wouldn't have had such a problem with, and it was in their best interest to beat these foes as quickly and efficiently as possible. In fact, Vegeta's arrogance notwithstanding, it's highly probable that he could have defeated Dabura with relative ease had he been the one to fight instead.
** Vegeta gets another one in the climax of the Buu Saga when he [[WhatTheHellHero calls out Goku for leaving his children to die while Kid Buu blows up the Earth]], and choosing to rescue Mr. Satan and Dende instead. While he's doing so, Goku just sits there and has absolutely ''nothing'' to say in his own defense.

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** *** Although Vegeta was too harsh with Gohan about him getting weaker in the Buu saga and how his fight with Dabura was a "disgrace," he made a good point: Gohan was struggling against a foe that, seven years ago, he wouldn't have had such a problem with, and it was in their best interest to beat these foes as quickly and efficiently as possible. In fact, Vegeta's arrogance notwithstanding, it's highly probable that he could have defeated Dabura with relative ease had he been the one to fight instead.
** Vegeta gets another one in *** During the climax of the Buu Saga Saga, when he [[WhatTheHellHero calls out Goku for leaving his children to die while Kid Buu blows up the Earth]], and choosing to rescue Mr. Satan and Dende instead. While he's doing so, Goku just sits there and has absolutely ''nothing'' to say in his own defense.



** His assessment of the Babarians proves sound; his master Gowasu [[AdviceBackfire brought him there to demonstrate that mortals weren't inherently evil and capable of maturation, yet even after a thousand years, there was no moral growth to observe in the species]].
** He also has a point about [[TheGodsMustBeLazy the gods' inaction against mortals who abuse the knowledge of the gods]]. The suffering caused by Frieza, Bibidi, and Babidi could have been avoided if the gods were more active. Beerus specifically let Frieza do whatever he wanted and even approved of him destroying the Saiyans for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty reasons]]. In the ''Super'' manga, it's outright stated that Beerus should have been the one to handle Majin Buu, but he was [[SleptThroughTheApocalypse asleep]].

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** *** His assessment of the Babarians proves sound; his master Gowasu [[AdviceBackfire brought him there to demonstrate that mortals weren't inherently evil and capable of maturation, yet even after a thousand years, there was no moral growth to observe in the species]].
** *** He also has a point about [[TheGodsMustBeLazy the gods' inaction against mortals who abuse the knowledge of the gods]]. The suffering caused by Frieza, Bibidi, and Babidi could have been avoided if the gods were more active. Beerus specifically let Frieza do whatever he wanted and even approved of him destroying the Saiyans for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty reasons]]. In the ''Super'' manga, it's outright stated that Beerus should have been the one to handle Majin Buu, but he was [[SleptThroughTheApocalypse asleep]].
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* Kazuma from ''{{Manga/Konosuba}}'' regularly criticzes and berates his fellow party members, however given how useless and ineffective they can be he's not wrong. Especially when it comes to Aqua, who despite being a goddess and more powerful than anyone around, does little to try and improve their situation beyond casting healing spells.
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* Tohru's father from ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'' may have been arrogant and overbearing, but he had a point in warning Tohru and Kobayashi that the former's presence risked causing the war ravaging the Other World to spill over into Earth -- as happened when Elma, Iruru, and Cremene crossed over looking to pick fights.

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* Tohru's father from ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'' may have been arrogant and overbearing, but he had a point in warning Tohru and Kobayashi that the former's presence risked causing the war ravaging the Other World to spill over into Earth -- as happened when Elma, Iruru, Ilulu, and Cremene Clemene crossed over looking to pick fights.
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** Another Kaiba moment would have to be the duel with Dartz where they both were forced to fight the Mirror Knight tokens of their loved ones. Yami is shown to be unwilling to destroy them despite losing to them while Kaiba in contrast, does not hesitate to destroy them and when Yami protests, Kaiba harshly albeit correctly points out that if they are true duelists, they would not hesitate to let themselves for the world which indeed is proven true when they do so.

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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. Which makes him come off as a callous jerk. However, as heroes in training his students are expected to face danger on a regular basis. With not just their own lives, but the lives of others on the line. It would be cruel and irresponsible of him ''not'' to fail someone who lacks the potential. Better to crush their dreams outright rather then let them get their hopes up, or allow someone unqualified pass when it could lead to them or others being hurt or killed as a result.

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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. Which makes him come off as a callous jerk. However, However as heroes in training his students are expected to face danger on a regular basis. With not just their own lives, but the lives of others on the line. It would be cruel and irresponsible of him ''not'' to fail someone who lacks the potential. Better to crush their dreams outright rather then let them get their hopes up, or allow someone unqualified pass when it could lead to them or others being hurt or killed as a result.
** He derides Midoriya during the Quirk apprehension test and threatens to expel him for this reason. While mean he's completely in the right to question how he expects to become a hero when he [[AwesomeButImpractical injures himself just using his Quirk]] and would need his teammates to save him in battle, making him a liability.
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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' gives us HeroKiller Stain. On the surface, it's easy to write off his beliefs[[note]]that a hero must be motivated purely by a selfless desire to help people and that anyone who strays from that definition in even the slightest is a fake who must be killed[[/note]] as those of a crazed fundamentalist. However, coming right after an arc which put a massive focus on Todoroki and his father (Endevour, the number two hero) who is revealed to be a horribly abusive father and husband who only cares about his own personal advancement, even characters like [[{{Protagonist}} Midorya]] admit that Stain's assertions that the Hero System has serious flaws carry weight.

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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' gives us ** There’s also HeroKiller Stain. On the surface, it's easy to write off his beliefs[[note]]that a hero must be motivated purely by a selfless desire to help people and that anyone who strays from that definition in even the slightest is a fake who must be killed[[/note]] as those of a crazed fundamentalist. However, coming right after an arc which put a massive focus on Todoroki and his father (Endevour, the number two hero) who is revealed to be a horribly abusive father and husband who only cares about his own personal advancement, even characters like [[{{Protagonist}} Midorya]] admit that Stain's assertions that the Hero System has serious flaws carry weight.

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** As obnoxious as Chi-Chi can be (mostly anime), she has a point in not trusting Piccolo too easily. Keep in mind, Piccolo was once a threat to the universe. She had witnessed him beat the shit out of Goku and put a gaping hole through Goku's body. So it was only natural of her to freak out when she finds out that he killed Goku (granted Goku wanted Piccolo to do it, but it still counts) and then kidnapped her (then) 4-year old son.
*** There's also the fact that around the time she shows she utterly adamant against Gohan fighting alongside Goku and the others, he really ''was'' too young to go to battle. Case in point: when Gohan fought Cell, he was ''9''. As a mother, the thought of her (then) only child going to what was essentially warfare must be unthinkable.
** While it was extremely stupid of Chi-Chi to slap Buu in the face and to get herself killed, she had every right to feel contempt towards Buu. It was implied that he was responsible for the death of her older son Gohan, and any parent would be understandably pissed if he or she had to stand in the same area with his/her son's killer(s).

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** As obnoxious as Chi-Chi can be (mostly anime), she has a point in not trusting Piccolo too easily. Keep in mind, Piccolo was once a threat to the universe. She had witnessed him beat the shit out of Goku and put a gaping hole through Goku's body. So it was only natural of her to freak out when she finds out that he killed Goku (granted Goku wanted Piccolo to do it, but it still counts) and then kidnapped her (then) 4-year old son.
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son. She also the fact that around the time she shows she utterly adamant constantly protests against Gohan fighting alongside Goku and the others, he really ''was'' being too young to go to battle. Case engage in point: when battles against villains. Even other characters admit that Gohan fought Cell, he was ''9''. As a mother, the thought of her (then) only child going (along with Goten and Trunks) were too young to what was essentially warfare must be unthinkable.
** While it was extremely stupid of Chi-Chi to slap Buu
battle against deadly villains in the face and to get herself killed, she had every right to feel contempt towards Buu. It was implied that he was responsible for the death of her older son Gohan, and any parent would be understandably pissed if he or she had to stand in the same area with his/her son's killer(s).first place.
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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' gives us HeroKiller Stain. On the surface, it's easy to write off his beliefs[[note]]that a hero must be motivated purely by a selfless desire to help people and that anyone who strays from that definition in even the slightest is a fake who must be killed[[/note]] as those of a crazed fundamentalist. However, coming right after an arc which put a massive focus on Todoroki and his father (Endevour, the number two hero) who is revealed to be a horribly abusive father and husband who only cares about his own personal advancement, even characters like [[{{Protagonist}} Midorya]] admit that Stain's assertions that the Hero System has serious flaws carry weight.
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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. However as heroes in training his students are expected to face danger on a regular basis. With not only their own lives on the line but others as well. Better to crush the dreams of a student who lacks the potential then let someone unqualified pass, only to get hurt or killed.

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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. However Which makes him come off as a callous jerk. However, as heroes in training his students are expected to face danger on a regular basis. With not only just their own lives, but the lives of others on the line but others as well. line. It would be cruel and irresponsible of him ''not'' to fail someone who lacks the potential. Better to crush the their dreams of a student who lacks the potential outright rather then let them get their hopes up, or allow someone unqualified pass, only pass when it could lead to get them or others being hurt or killed.killed as a result.
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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'' is rough SinkOrSwimMentor, that reguarly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. While mean, his students are training to become heroes who will regularly face dangerous life threatening situations. Better to crush the dreams of a student who lacks the potential then let someone unqualified pass, only to get hurt or killed.

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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'' ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' is a rough SinkOrSwimMentor, that reguarly who regularly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. While mean, However as heroes in training his students are training expected to become heroes who will regularly face dangerous life threatening situations.danger on a regular basis. With not only their own lives on the line but others as well. Better to crush the dreams of a student who lacks the potential then let someone unqualified pass, only to get hurt or killed.
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* Shouta Aizawa from ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'' is rough SinkOrSwimMentor, that reguarly criticizes his students, and has expelled entire classes for not meeting his high standards. While mean, his students are training to become heroes who will regularly face dangerous life threatening situations. Better to crush the dreams of a student who lacks the potential then let someone unqualified pass, only to get hurt or killed.
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**As obnoxious as Chi-Chi can be (mostly anime), she has a point in not trusting Piccolo too easily. Keep in mind, Piccolo was once a threat to the universe. She had witnessed him beat the shit out of Goku and put a gaping hole through Goku's body. So it was only natural of her to freak out when she finds out that he killed Goku (granted Goku wanted Piccolo to do it, but it still counts) and then kidnapped her (then) 4-year old son.
*** There's also the fact that around the time she shows she utterly adamant against Gohan fighting alongside Goku and the others, he really ''was'' too young to go to battle. Case in point: when Gohan fought Cell, he was ''9''. As a mother, the thought of her (then) only child going to what was essentially warfare must be unthinkable.
** While it was extremely stupid of Chi-Chi to slap Buu in the face and to get herself killed, she had every right to feel contempt towards Buu. It was implied that he was responsible for the death of her older son Gohan, and any parent would be understandably pissed if he or she had to stand in the same area with his/her son's killer(s).
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* In ''Manga/TheRoyalTutor'', the oldest prince Eines was harsh and blunt about his assessment of his younger brothers but he, just like their father, was correct. Kai is too timid to hold a conversation with people other than their family. Bruno is too strict and inflexible with himself and others. Leonhard hates studying and is a little too simplistic in his thinking. Licht would rather have fun and amuse himself. None of the younger princes made any effort to improve themselves with previous tutors until very recently. Despite the younger princes desiring to aim for kingship, Eines quickly pointed out that he already has several officials and military figures backing ''him'' as the successor, having met all the expectations and standards, while the young princes have very little to no support on the matter.
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* [[{{Troll}} Sora]] from ''Anime/DotHackSign'', after repeatedly being scolded for not taking anything seriously and just being an ass, replies along the lines that they're in a game and the point is to have fun. Even though there's a lot more going on than it just being a game, and while he is a dick, he ''does'' have a very valid point.
* In ''LightNovel/AccelWorld'', during the climax of the first volume, Haru learns that his childhood friend, Taku, is actually Cyan Pile, the Burst Linker who's hunting his mentor Kuroyukihime for the point bounty on her, and that he also put a backdoor program in their mutual friend (as well as his girlfriend) Chiyu's Neurolinker to spy on her. Taku reveals that he's dating Chiyu so that she doesn't spend her life looking after Haru, and Haru, despite finding his point difficult to accept, admits that it's not entirely without basis.
* ''Manga/AngelSanctuary'': Setsuna and Sara's mother. She's ignorant and distant to her son, overprotective of her daughter, and goes to extreme lengths to keep the two separated. [[JustifiedTrope Rightfully so]], as the two of them have [[BrotherSisterIncest incestuous feelings]] for each other. No matter how cruel she may appear in keeping her children apart, she has good reason to do so.
* In ''Manga/{{Area 88}}'', [[TheSociopath Kanzaki]] of all people warns Ryoko that her fixation on Shin is pathological. He tells Ryoko that her obsession with an absentee Shin is reminiscent of his mother's obsession with his estranged father, which ended with his mother's suicide. [[spoiler: Kanzaki's observation was validated in later manga issues that did not make it stateside. Ryoko unsuccessfully attempted suicide after Shin broke her heart over the phone.]]
--> '''Ryoko''': I feel bad about saying this, but I think your mother must have been a very weak person. To end up like that, I mean. Even if I were in her situation and lost my man. As long as I had the memory of the love I shared, I'm sure I would be able to handle it. And I would never involve a small child in my problems.
--> '''Kanzaki''': It's easy to have such an idealistic attitude. But, would your attitude hold up if you were really faced with the same kind of situation? ... Shin has been missing a long time. And you don't know whether he's alive or dead. Yet, you still love him. In retrospect, is your situation any different?
** Some also say that Ryoko [[SpeakIllOfTheDead speaking so harshly about the dead]] is in and of itself a {{Jerkass}} move. But can any parent who commits suicide and leaves a child behind truly be considered a responsible individual?
* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', Levi's BrutalHonesty, despite often making him appear like a jerk, is usually proven right. During Eren's trial, he openly criticizes the merchants for being greedy pigs, but he is absolutely correct since they care more about their safety and business than caring about starving refugees, especially since one merchant deliberately blocked off an escape route with his goods and flat-out told Mikasa to her face that [[EntitledBastard she and the rest of the Survey Corps solely exist to die so people like him can live]]. He also harshly ordered Eren to figure out a way to [[spoiler:transform into a Titan]] because if he didn't, then any chance of reclaiming Wall Maria was gone, and there would be a high possibility that Eren would be handed over to the Military Police Brigade who would then execute him.
* In ''Manga/{{Bakuman}}'', Nanamine, who has a morally dubious plan to rise to the top of Jump, had once sent the main characters as fan mail, but stopped when they started writing Tanto, saying they weren't suited to gag manga. This is a bit of an odd case, in that it takes a while for Nanamine to be revealed as a JerkAss, and this opinion was shared by the majority of the characters. He also says that [[NotSoDifferent like him]], the main characters took risks and defied their editors at times to get what they wanted.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'':
** In the concept pilot, Orihime's father tells her she shouldn't confess her feelings to Ichigo after her death, because it'll leave him in even more pain. It's a valid point, even if it soon turns out that [[spoiler:his time as a Hollow turned him insane and possessive of Orihime to the point where he killed her himself]].
** At the beginning of the Arrancar Arc, Grimmjow points out it's a mistake to let Ichigo live. He's right.
** Zommari tells Byakuya that the Shinigami weren't meant to be Hollow hunters and he should be questioning why Shinigami descended into that state from their original duty. He's right. Shinigami were originally Balancers, not Hollow hunters.
** When Yamamoto claims [[MadScientist Mayuri]] only had to kill 28,000 Rukongai souls to correct the world soul-balance because his division was too incompetent to identify the Quincy threat fast enough to prevent things getting that bad, Mayuri bluntly tells him it's entirely Yamamoto's fault because Mayuri foresaw the Quincy threat as a result of Uryuu's actions during the Ryoka Invasion. However, Yamamoto dismissed Mayuri's concerns as paranoid, which left the Gotei 13 unprepared for future Quincy attacks.
** When questioned about his decision to reject the Quincy arts by a young Uryuu, Ryuuken states that he did so because there is no money in it. Uryuu finds this incredibly callous, but his grandfather points out that Ryuuken has a son to feed and raise and so needs an occupation that can provide for him.
* In the finale of ''Manga/DeathNote'', [[spoiler: Near, who, like L, largely only takes on cases that interest him rather than out of a sense of justice, but hates Kira]] responds to [[spoiler: Light Yagami]]'s MotiveRant by [[spoiler: telling him that he's nothing more than a "crazy serial killer." No one in the room besides Light, even those who don't like Near, contest that assertion, and Ide says that while he doesn't like Near, if Near hadn't won, Ide and the rest of the task force would be dead]].
* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'':
** In the Saiyan Saga, Yajirobe invokes this after the fight against Vegeta, calling out Chi-Chi for focusing entirely on Gohan, who was merely unconscious, while ignoring Goku, who didn't have a single unbroken bone in his body.
** Vegeta killing Burter and Recoome in cold blood after Goku defeated them. Goku states that Vegeta was being cruel, but Vegeta then retorts that their deaths were deserved, especially since Gohan and Krillin were on the verge of death, and that they had killed countless people under Frieza's orders. While Goku states that having a little compassion isn't a disadvantage, sparing the Ginyu Force would have caused far more harm than good. This is further emphasized later on when Goku spares their even more sadistic leader Frieza's life at least twice - which only prompts Frieza [[UngratefulBastard to try to]] [[TheFarmerAndTheViper stab Goku in the back]] [[BackstabBackfire both times]]; though, to be fair, Goku only spared Frieza the first time out of CruelMercy instead, ''not'' compassion.
** After saving the heart virus-stricken Goku from being killed by Android 19, Vegeta proceeds to chew him out for it, reminding Goku that he was ''warned'' about the heart virus and should have known that fighting in his condition, let alone going [[SuperMode Super Saiyan]], would have only made it worse.
** Vegeta gets another one after beating Android 19 so thoroughly that 19 flips out and tries to make a break for it, to which Dr. Gero/Android 20 shouts at Vegeta that it's enough. As Vegeta rightfully points out in response, Gero and 19 had clearly come all this way to destroy him and the other Z Fighters, and [[MoralMyopia it's only "enough" because they're losing]].
** Although Vegeta was too harsh with Gohan about him getting weaker in the Buu saga and how his fight with Dabura was a "disgrace," he made a good point: Gohan was struggling against a foe that, seven years ago, he wouldn't have had such a problem with, and it was in their best interest to beat these foes as quickly and efficiently as possible. In fact, Vegeta's arrogance notwithstanding, it's highly probable that he could have defeated Dabura with relative ease had he been the one to fight instead.
** Vegeta gets another one in the climax of the Buu Saga when he [[WhatTheHellHero calls out Goku for leaving his children to die while Kid Buu blows up the Earth]], and choosing to rescue Mr. Satan and Dende instead. While he's doing so, Goku just sits there and has absolutely ''nothing'' to say in his own defense.
** During the Saiyan Saga, when Gohan wants to learn martial arts from his father instead of Piccolo, Piccolo states that Goku is too soft-hearted to be an effective teacher. These concerns prove to be justified in the Cell saga when they go into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and Goku initially holds back for fear of hurting Gohan accidentally.
* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'':
** While Zamasu is a KnightTemplar with [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazi-esque ambitions]], his overall view on mortals is not entirely unfounded. Mortals do misuse the knowledge of the gods and have committed several atrocities: [[GalacticConquerer Frieza]] and the Saiyans were cold-hearted planet brokers who regularly committed genocide for profit; [[MadScientist Dr. Gero]] used his great mind to create mass-murdering androids, one of whom (Cell) literally ''[[ImAHumanitarian ate]]'' [[ImAHumanitarian people]], all to settle [[EvilIsPetty a petty grudge]] with Goku; and [[EvilSorcerer Bibidi and Babidi]] unleashed Majin Buu on Universe 7, causing the deaths of nearly all of the Supreme Kais and billions of innocents. Zamasu's FatalFlaw, however, is his [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity inability]] to see that not all mortals are [[AlwaysChaoticEvil evil by nature]].
** His assessment of the Babarians proves sound; his master Gowasu [[AdviceBackfire brought him there to demonstrate that mortals weren't inherently evil and capable of maturation, yet even after a thousand years, there was no moral growth to observe in the species]].
** He also has a point about [[TheGodsMustBeLazy the gods' inaction against mortals who abuse the knowledge of the gods]]. The suffering caused by Frieza, Bibidi, and Babidi could have been avoided if the gods were more active. Beerus specifically let Frieza do whatever he wanted and even approved of him destroying the Saiyans for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty reasons]]. In the ''Super'' manga, it's outright stated that Beerus should have been the one to handle Majin Buu, but he was [[SleptThroughTheApocalypse asleep]].
** [[BloodKnight Beerus]], [[TheDreaded God of Destruction of Universe 7]], ''really'' against Goku's idea of All-Universe Tournament, because it involves [[TopGod Zen'O]]; he even threatens to ''vaporise'' him. However, knowing that Zen'O is even more casual and apathetic to life than Beerus, destroyed 6 universes in the past just because something annoyed him, and the losers of upcoming tournament will have ''their entire universes'' destroyed, it's hard to disagree.
** He also berates Goku for his naive nature, stating that it's dangerous to the universe. Remember that Goku spared Frieza, who tried to destroy Earth twice (and succeeds in the latter case; only Whis' TimeMaster abilities averted it), his fighty-happy nature led to Zamasu's StartOfDarkness and destruction of Future multiverse, etc.
** At the end of the Future Trunks Saga, he coldly tells Gowasu to choose his apprentices more carefully in the future. Considering the fact that Gowasu proved to be a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter in regards to [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Zamasu]] and failed to notice his growing darkness until it was almost too late, and also [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom told him about the Time Rings and Super Dragon Balls]], both of which proved crucial to Zamasu's plans, he's not wrong.
** When Goku fights Bergamo during the preliminary tournament, the latter manipulates the gods into making Goku the bad guy and tries to get under Zen'O's favor by having the universe be spared if he beats the former. Right after being defeated, Bergamo calls out Goku on whether or not he cares for the state of the universe considering they are going to be erased when they lose. While Bergamo is underhanded, manipulative and he said it in the middle of his SoreLoser speech, he's got a good point about Goku especially considering that the latter is completely nonchalant about it, even challenging the other gods to come at him.
* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'':
** [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Solf J. Kimblee]]. [[SociopathicSoldier Jerkass]] has '''many''' points. Played especially straight in Chapter 60 where he [[BreakingLecture lectures]] Mustang and Hawkeye about the nature of killing, free will, and military duty in the midst of war. Kimblee's words affect them so much, they decide to lose the self-pity, accept responsibility for their acts, and atone by putting into motion a long-term {{plan}} to change the leadership of the country from below.
** When the Elric brothers confront [[AntiVillain Scar]] with his killing of the Nina-Alexander chimera, he says that she would have never returned to normal, and would have lived out her days as a lab rat. The brothers find this difficult to accept, but have to admit that even then, they knew on some level that it would have happened and did nothing.
* In ''Anime/{{Gate}}'', Yao further aggravates Tuka's PTSD by coldly insisting that her father was killed by a fire dragon, causing her to retreat further into her delusions and become convinced that Itami is actually her father. When confronted with this, Yao points out that their initial plan to just avoid the issue and allow her to believe her father was still alive was just as bad, and that Itami's later attempts to enforce her delusions by actually pretending to be her father are doomed to fail and likely drive her even further into insanity. Itami eventually concedes to her point, and sets out to destory the flame dragon with Tuka and the rest of the group to force her to overcome her father's death.
* In the ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'' prequel manga "Little Army", Miho's friend Emi acts very hostile toward Miho's older sister Maho from their first meeting, causing friction between Miho and Emi. Eventually, Emi reveals the cause of her antipathy toward Maho; [[spoiler:Emi's older sister's team went up against Maho's team. While Maho's team was winning, one of its tanks fell into the water, and Emi's sister's team's flag tank went after it, but Maho's tank took the opportunity to shoot at the flag tank and win]]. Miho is hesitant to believe this, but she asks Maho whether it's true, and is quite upset to hear that it is.
** In the main series manga, after the match with Anzio ([[AdaptationExpansion which was]] [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome passed over in the anime]]), Anchovy, the commander, acts like a SoreLoser, angrily saying she doesn't accept Miho's way of tankery and saying that there is no meaning to tankery unless you strive for victory. Miho fires back with an ArmorPiercingQuestion that asks if Anchovy believes that her and her team's efforts are meaningless because they lost and says her comrades are most important, but Anchovy replies that the commander's responsibility is to lead the team to victory. Ultimately, [[spoiler:it turns out that the only way for Oarai to avert being shut down is to place first in the tournament, something none of Miho's team wants, so it is necessary for Miho to win]], although Miho doesn't know that at the time and it's unclear whether Anchovy does.
* In ''Anime/HappinessChargePrettyCure'', Iona has major trust issues towards Hime, snubbing her and essentially being mean to her, even telling Hime's partner Megumi to not trust her. After so long, Iona reveals why: [[spoiler:Hime opened the Axia Box and released the Phantom Empire that is currently ravaging the planet]]. While Hime claims she didn't mean to harm anyone by her actions, Iona's trust issues are justified as [[spoiler:Hime's actions caused many lives to be taken away, including Iona and Hime's families]]. However, this is eventually softened by the fact that while [[spoiler: it's Hime's fault that the Earth is being attacked, it's ''Iona's'' fault that her sister was taken, as said sister sacrificed herself to protect Iona, who ventured too close to a battle]].
* ''Manhwa/HesDedicatedToRoses:'' The leader of the GirlPosse give I-Da one of these after breaking her glasses. Subverted in that that wasn't what she had intended.
* One of the main reasons why ''Anime/InuYasha'' always gets a [[RestrainingBolt sit command]]...
--> '''Inuyasha''': [''Nonchalantly.''] She means you better take care of any unfinished business before you go to the other world.
--> '''Kagome''': ''Inuyasha''!
--> '''Inuyasha''': Ah, what?
--> '''Kagome''': Sit boy!
** [[BigBad Naraku]] even gets a moment of this; while Kikyo's death and Inuyasha's 50-year sealing are entirely his fault, he nonetheless makes a valid point when he tells them that they were quick to distrust each other and how easy it was to drive a wedge between them. Their world is one where demons are able to shapeshift into other people's forms and/or possess other people, and despite full knowledge that such things are entirely possible, Inuyasha and Kikyo were fully prepared to believe the worst in one another despite being lovers.
* Done with Tomoe frequently from ''Manga/KamisamaKiss.'' The guy's default personality is sarcastic asshole and the people he likes are not exempt from that sarcasm or his general dickish behavior. That being said, he regularly gives the heroine Nanami sound advice. Too bad she never really listens.
* In ''Manga/KoeNoKatachi'', after the DramaBomb and suffering a breakdown, Ishida harshly calls out his friends. While he delivered it to a brutal fashion, he was correct. Ueno doesn't believe she did anything wrong in regards to bullying Shouko. Sahara doesn't stand up for herself or others when put in a difficult situation. Kawai is the worst as she refuses to acknowledge she had any part in bullying Shouko. Nagatsuka clings to Ishida [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe because he was nice to him]].
* In ''Manga/KotouraSan'', Hiyori points out that Haruka's {{telepathy}} is an incredible invasion of privacy. Does this excuse in any way, shape, or form, the way she and others treat her for most of the story? Not really... but it's still a valid point. On the other hand, Haruka [[PowerIncontinence is unable to turn off her mind reading power]], and so has no choice but to read others' minds- her main problem is being unable to keep that ability, and some of her findings, secret.
* Oberstein of ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is a magnificent example of this trope. There is practically no one in the show who likes the guy, and yet he always makes arguments that, although devoid of concepts such as honor and often morals, are simply correct and most effective when looked at logically. Even Reinhard states that he has not once liked Oberstein as a person, but followed his advice the most because "that man makes arguments that are so right, they leave no room for debate".
* In ''Manga/LetterBee'', when [[spoiler:Zazie]]'s parents come to pick [[spoiler:him]] up from the orphanage, having paid off their debt and not having to worry about [[spoiler:him]], being taken as collateral, [[spoiler:Zazie]] refuses to recognize them as [[spoiler:his]] parents, having developed trust issues. The cruel, [[BitchInSheepsClothing two-faced]] orphan matron tells [[spoiler:him]] that "If they're not your parents, why would they want a brat like you?" (Ironically, she is the main cause of [[spoiler:Zazie's]] trust issues). [[spoiler:Zazie]] realizes as [[spoiler:his]] parents are leaving that they "made no excuses and told no lies" when challenged, but a Gaichuu eats their hearts before [[spoiler:Zazie]] can talk with them again.
* ''Anime/LittleWitchAcademia'' has an InUniverse example in which Akko considers Diana to be a massive jerk because of her constant criticism. Thing is, almost all of said criticism (that Akko is nowhere as skilled as she thinks she is, believes that she can be a great witch simply by virtue of wanting it ''really'' bad without putting forth much effort, and has little respect for the traditions or rules of the institution she wants so badly to be a part of) are all completely accurate. Part of Akko's CharacterDevelopment is recognizing that maybe Diana wasn't just being mean and actually had a valid point.
* ''Manga/MakenKi'': Tenbi lost possession of the remaining 3 original Maken [[NebulousEvilOrganisation to Kamigari]], in a contest during the Himekagura Festival, but figured it wouldn't matter since they had contingency plan. They intended to have [[{{ninja}} Yuuka]] [[http://www.readpanda.net/Maken-ki/69/21/ shadow Otohime]] back to Kamigari's new lair in order to recover their Maken and learn where they were hiding [[spoiler: [[BigBad Takeru Yamato]]]]. Except the plan failed because Otohime [[http://readpanda.net/Maken-ki/69/22/ had been expecting it.]] The following day at the festival, she notified Tenbi that Yuuka [[IHaveYourWife was now]] [[http://readpanda.net/Maken-ki/70/14/ their prisoner.]] When Minori tried threatening her, Otohime [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech threw Minori's own plan back in her face:]]
-->'''Otohime: (at Minori)''' [[LampshadeHanging "It's your own fault for trying to get the jump on us.]] Besides... seeing how you laid a trap for us, I bet you thought it was alright for you to lose at Himekagura. I can't stand a lukewarm atmosphere like that."
* ''Manga/MedakaBox'': [[spoiler: Right after being defeated]], Kumagawa makes an point about Medaka's decision [[spoiler: to make Kumagawa her Vice-President]] remarking that she's ignoring Zenkichi's feelings. Personal feelings aside, Kumagawa was nonetheless a dangerous minus who [[spoiler: blinded]] Zenkichi, so distrust of Kumagawa was still partially justified.
** Naze calls out the rest of the student council for their bystander attitude [[spoiler: after Medaka beats Zenkichi into a bloody pulp]].
** Kumagawa does it again in Chapter 174. [[spoiler: While erasing Zenkichi from existence was quite extreme, it manages to force Shiranui to admit her true feelings rather than continuing her JerkassFacade.]]
* Tohru's father from ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'' may have been arrogant and overbearing, but he had a point in warning Tohru and Kobayashi that the former's presence risked causing the war ravaging the Other World to spill over into Earth -- as happened when Elma, Iruru, and Cremene crossed over looking to pick fights.
* In ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' the only character to consistently call [[TheProtagonist Kamille]] out on his MoralMyopia is {{archenemy}} Jerid Messa. While Jerid is an arrogant JerkJock with a history of war crimes under his belt, he's not wrong when he laughs in Kamille's face over his insistence that all the enemy soldiers are murderers, given that at this point Kamille has killed as many of their comrades as they've killed his.
* In ''Manga/MuhyoAndRoji'', while Roji has been given leave from his position as Muhyo's assistant to learn an important lesson about what it is he needs to do. The one who convinces him that rather than worry about his own capabilities, which would leave him useless to Muhyo, he should support Muhyo, is [[FatBastard Ebisu]], [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Goryo's]] [[{{Jerkass}} unpleasant]] and [[MyMasterRightOrWrong amoral]] ([[JerkassWoobie but also at times sympathetic]]) sidekick, who does so after telling him his criminal past and loyalty to the Goryo group for taking him in, which [[spoiler:allowed him to ultimately accept being fired for his mistake]].
** Goryo himself later reveals that Ivy's parents were not innocent victims, but rejected an offer of lenience and killed magical law officers while resisting arrest. Surprisingly enough, though, at the end of his fight with Ivy, he has a few chances to PetTheDog.
** [[GoodIsNotNice While he's typically the hero]], Muhyo sends the spirit of Fujiwara to the equivalent of purgatory, saying that his loss against a rain dog was proof of "ineptitude or negligence, neither of which earns (Muhyo's) sympathy". Roji, despite being typically idealistic and kind-hearted, doesn't question this but does question why Muhyo is performing so many sentencings and using up his tempering even before facing [[ArcVillain Sophie]].
* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}''
** Orochimaru was the one who gave Tsunade the idea of starting a unit of medical ninjas to minimize battlefield casualties, though that was way before he turned to full-blown villainy. He was a recognized hero of Konoha, pegged to be the next Hokage and genuinely her friend at the time. Though he never ''was'' nice, even then, so the trope still applies.
** Sasuke gets this from time to time in Part I. When Sakura complains about Naruto and says that he is a BrattyHalfPint because he has no parents (which definitely strikes a nerve for Sasuke), Sasuke tells Sakura that she has no idea what Naruto went through, and after he leaves, she decides to start being nicer to Naruto. Shortly before the Chunin Exams, he tells her that she's as annoying as Naruto is and in terms of skill, even weaker than he is. During the Forest of Death, when Naruto and Sasuke are incapacitated, Sakura realizes that despite thinking herself superior to Naruto, she can't do anything when it counts, and goes through CharacterDevelopment as a result.
** Sakura got to be this in the Forest of Death as well, calling Sasuke out for always having such a superior attitude while talking to Naruto, and yet now was frozen in fear while Naruto fought for their lives.
** The Fourth Raikage is often depicted as arrogant, stubborn and [[MoralMyopia somewhat hypocritical]]. When Naruto's pleas for him not to kill Sasuke are dismissed as weakness, Naruto agrees to the extent that he has to either save or kill Sasuke himself.
** PlayedWith in the case of the [[EldritchAbomination Nine-Tailed Demon Fox]], when Naruto heads out into the Fourth Ninja World War. In a conversation in his subconscious, Naruto declares that he will end the war himself, and won't let anyone down, The Nine-Tails points out that hatred and grudges have shaped the way of the world for as long as there has been shinobi, and the war is just another example of that hatred being brought to the surface, asking him how he expects to overcome it, if he's expected to ''use'' it. He then gets specific and mentions Naruto's failure to [[HeelFaceTurn turn]] Sasuke, and noted that he has carried that hatred even as far back as their first meeting as children. While Naruto [[HeroicVow makes it clear what he will deal with Sasuke, and end the war]], he has met a number of foes have largely been [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Zetsu copies]], and [[ArmyOfTheAges zombies of legendary ninja]] [[ICannotSelfTerminate who want to rest in peace]], before another example of this trope, Itachi, points out [[ChronicHeroSyndrome that taking it all on yourself]] can make you arrogant [[NotSoDifferent and no better]] than [[spoiler:Tobi]]. So, in one sense, Nine-Tails was onto something...
** Another example with the Nine-Tails. [[spoiler: When the [[BackFromTheDead resurrected]] Minato blames himself for all of the damage Tobi/Obito has caused because he never realized Tobi's true identity, Kurama is quick to point out that Minato had no way of knowing that Obito was still alive, and even if he had, it wouldn't have changed a thing; Kurama still had to be stopped, and the Obito Minato knew [[ThatManIsDead was long dead by then]], so it would have been pointless to try to reason with him.]]
** Also, the Second Hokage, Tobirama, comes off as a bit of an asshole with his [[FantasticRacism opinion]] on the Uchiha. However, given their actions (Uchiha being responsible for a past attack on Konoha, the current war, and most of Akatsuki's actions), he had reasons to be wary. And while definitely an ass about it and obviously acting under the premise of KeepingTheEnemyClose, he never actually caused them any harm. Nor did he have a problem trusting ''individual'' members of the clan who he felt had proved their loyalty.
** Sasuke points out that the five ninja villages only united because of a greater threat, to justify his far more extreme plan for world peace--[[spoiler:killing the Five Kages and using the Sage's powers to unite the world against him]].
** Sasuke pointing out that the only reason Sakura loves him is because they were on the same team for a little while over three years ago and she had a crush and that she's willing to overlook multiple counts of willing atrocities and attempted murders for [[LovingAShadow a guy she knows pretty much nothing about]]. We even see early in the story through a flashback that it was basically LoveAtFirstSight and she was so insensitive that she didn't realize insulting Naruto ''[[KickTheDog for not having parents]]'' just ''[[SarcasmMode might]]'' also offend Sasuke "Entire clan murdered down to two" Uchiha. It's blatantly clear to see the distinction in comparison to Naruto, whom Sasuke does acknowledges as his best friend because [[NotSoDifferent they mutually understand each other's lonely pasts]].
* Bishamon in ''Manga/{{Noragami}}'' angrily calls out Yato on his case of PoorCommunicationKills regarding Yato's father that has led to so much grief when it could have been avoided. She herself experienced all the problems poor communication can cause. She was also brutal in telling Yato that he has some nerve showing his face to Ebisu if he is secretly contacting his father, after what had happened between Ebisu and his father.
* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', after Kaku is revealed as a Cipher Pol 9 spy, Zoro asks him if the fact that he is not a real shipwright means that his assessment that the Going Merry [[spoiler:was unable to reach the next island]] was incorrect, but Kaku says that he was telling the truth back then. Later on, when he goes to the place where Franky and Usopp are going to the ship, he chides Usopp for keeping Merry around, before [[KickTheDog dumping it into the stormy ocean]]. Kaku is correct, [[spoiler:and the [[TearJerker Merry falls apart]] after saving the Straw Hats from Enies Lobby]].
** Hody Jones states the painful and obvious truth when giving Princess Shirahoshi TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. While yes, it was admirable that she kept quiet about [[spoiler: who her mother's killer was]] and wanted to "prevent the cycle of hatred" from continuing, but by not telling anyone said person grew only worse in their murderous, racist ways before they would eventually [[spoiler: initiate a bloody coup d'etat on the kingdom]].
** In a similar way to Hody, Crocodile tells Luffy that he finds Vivi's idealism impractical, suggesting that the idea of saving everyone is naive. Luffy agrees, but points out that as she's willing to risk her own life to stop his EvilPlan, he'll fight so she doesn't have to.
** Zoro, while not a complete {{Jerkass}}, tends to be one of the more abrasive members of the crew when giving advice. However, his advice tends to be right.
*** During the Davy Back Fight, when Foxy takes Chopper after winning the first round as a result of cheating, he tells Chopper to own up to his decision to join the Straw Hats and that he shouldn't be blaming others for it. Notably, Zoro and Sanji are facing a 3-on-3 match next round, and Chopper was one of the people who was set to participate, so he's facing an uphill battle and doesn't complain about it.
*** When Usopp wanted to rejoin the crew, he tells Luffy that unless Usopp apologizes, he'd simply be allowing a crew member to disrespect him. Even Sanji, who frequently butts heads with Zoro, tells Nami that Zoro's completely right when she objects.
*** He is apathetic about [[spoiler: Sanji leaving the crew for an ArrangedMarriage with one of Big Mom's daughters]] because the Straw Hats cannot be involved with an Emperor's business when they are at the moment focused with dealing with another Emperor.
* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
** In the very first season [[CharacterOfTheDay Giselle]] acts as a bully and a jerk during her whole episode, but [[LovableAlphaBitch all her bullying consists in supplying very useful advice in a very harsh and backhanded way]].
** In ''Best Wishes 2'', in the eliminatories of the Junior World Cup, FieryRedhead Georgia and her Beartic suffer a CurbStompBattle at the hands of [[TheLancer Iris]] and her exceptionally powerful Dragonite, which had decided to join Iris' team on his own accord just in the previous episode. The former tells her that she didn't win by her own merits, but because of her Pokemon's strength (especially since Dragonite wasn't obeying her at all). While she's often a SoreLoser, her argument makes perfect sense - that instead of relying on Pokémon that she trained and fought alongside, she's just using a last-minute super-weapon she just found. It comes to a head when she battles Ash; she and Dragonite seem to finally be working together until Ash's Krokorok evolves into Krookodile and gains the upper-hand. Dragonite starts disobeying again and goes on a bit of a rampage which leads into an embarrassing loss for Iris, which makes Georgia extremely pleased to have been proven right. Iris acknowledges this at the end of the tournament and promises Georgia that she'll have Dragonite under control by the next time they meet, so that Georgia can have the battle she wants.
* In ''Manga/PuellaMagiOrikoMagica'', Homura's deciding to [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl only focus on protecting Madoka]] [[spoiler:when Oriko and witch-Kirika attack their middle school for the express purpose of killing Madoka]], earns Homura a WhatTheHellHero from Madoka herself that tells her that if she feels that way, she shouldn't try to save anyone. Homura responds that she can't save everyone in this case, and should be at least able to protect Madoka; Mami makes a similar point about not being able to save everyone in the school in an internal monologue. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, one of the people they're unable to save is Madoka herself]].
* ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'': The resident {{Jerkass}} {{Butt Monkey}}s Saionji and Nanami start making good points and recognising how they all are being manipulated towards the end of the series, but by then, each are teetering on the brink of insanity, so no-one listens to them.
* In ''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' Motoyasu [[WhatTheHellHero calls out Naofumi for owning a slave]], despite treating Raphtalia well and having to rely on her due to his own weakness. Months later Naofumi admits to himself that for a modern Japanese citizen Motoyasu's reaction was entirely justified, Naofumi was just too bitter to see it.
* ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'':
** AntiHero Saitou is generally placed in this role. Though Kenshin's non-killing philosophy prevails in most instances, Saitou points out that Kenshin's philosophy often gives him more challenges and grief against opponents who do not share it. He also coldly points out that Sano's skills would be of little use in a match in Kyoto, and proves it in a fistfight. Sano actually heeded the lesson and TookALevelInBadass en route to Kyoto.
** Similarly, Magdaria and Shouzo were doing a great job of not provoking the police, who had stopped them for no reason other than they were Christians... when Sanosuke jumped out from behind a bush and beat the crap out of them and probably got mistaken for a Christian (after all, who else would have bothered?). This is the kind of thing that RealLife activists from oppressed minority groups avoid unless they want to deepen the impression that they're a bunch of dangerous lunatics, so even if Magdaria could have been a little less harsh, she had a very good reason to not be happy.
* In ''Anime/SailorMoon'', Rei/Sailor Mars may be a bitch and an unsympathetic bully towards Usagi, but sometimes, she is angry out of frustration for having to deal with somebody as irresponsible and lazy as Usagi, as Usagi at first does not take her Sailor Scout duties seriously. This is pointed out when Makoto once gets angry at Rei and accuses her of wanting Usagi to be hurt, but Rei tells her that she's just as worried as Makoto and the other girls are.
** At the end of Sailor Moon S, Haruka and Michiru angrily call out Usagi on her handling of Pharoah 90. They say that while it is true the world was saved, Usagi acted rashly due to her idealism of wanting to save everyone, pointing out that it's selfish. Because of it, Usagi nearly doomed the whole world. Haruka and Michiru also point out that it was only dumb luck that things worked out in the end since Usagi had no idea how things would've went. They drive it further home saying someone with such flawed idealism has no right to be named a future ruler as they view that kind of person as irresponsible.
* ''Manga/SilverSpoon'': Hachiken's father has several. For example, expecting someone, even your parents, to fund your start up when your business plan consists solely of cheerful optimism isn't going to happen, and piling on more and more activities when you've already overworked yourself into the hospital once (the circumstances were extreme, but still) is not a good idea.
* Knuckles of ''Anime/SonicX'' is rather aloof and arrogant, and makes ''severe'' tactical mistakes like falling for Eggman's fake {{Heel Face Turn}}s. However some of his resentment towards Sonic's reckless behaviour does make sense (he ''did'' get everyone stuck on Earth by acting showy in a fight with Eggman's machinery) and he often points out the stupidity of some of the team's plans. It doesn't help the team tend to just make him their punching bag as a response.
* In ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', during the Mother's Rosario arc, Asuna's mother, Kyouko Yuuki, is trying to make her transfer out of the Sword Art Online Survivors' School, as well as accept an ArrangedMarriage (or failing that, marry someone who ''isn't'' from her current school- i.e. Kirito). Kyouko describes the SAO Survivors' School as little more than a correctional facility, since its lenient terms for admission seem too good to be true, and serve to let the government monitor the survivors for potentially antisocial behavior. Her point echoes one that Kirito made while talking to Suguha back in the Alfheim arc, and Asuna can't articulate a rebuttal to it, although she likes the school well enough to not want to leave.
* ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' and its adaptation ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' have a tendency to feature unlikeable characters whose arguments make sense:
** Lynn Kaifun (Kyle in ''Robotech'') is the series' [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] for his near-irrational hatred of military, extreme pacifism even when it does more harm then good, and SoapboxSadie tendencies, and is often seen accusing the military of trying to extend the war and not understanding the situation they're in. While the soldiers on the SDF-1 hate the war just as he does, when it comes to the pre-Zentraedi Holocaust high command he's ''perfectly right'', to the point that the first officer privately agrees with him and levies one of his points to the Spacy's commander, ''her father''.
** Kamjin (Khyron in ''Robotech'') is a violent BloodKnight, often seeking battle with the humans even when it doesn't benefit the Zentraedi, and tries to sabotage the peace talks under the justification that the main fleet ''will'' come and kill them all, both Earthlings and Zentraedi, if they catch wind of that. Not only Breetai agrees with the latter point, but Kamjin is quickly proven right.
** In the "The Masters" saga of ''Robotech'', Colonel Fredericks of the Global Military Police, whose job is both of military intelligence and to enforce military discipline, often offers harsh criticism of Dana's actions as an officer. Thing is, Dana's squadron is more a [[AllBikersAreHellsAngels biker gang]] than a military unit, in her first on-screen encounter with the GMP Dana ''toppled a security robot just because'', and Fredericks has shown some respect for Dana's battlefield prowess;
** Being effectively Fredericks' disciple, Nova Satori has her moments, especially when trying to bust Musica and Bowie when the first one comes to Earth. Thing is, Musica may be on Earth's side, but she's still a triumviroid ([[CloningBlues clone subject of the Robotech Masters]]), and the last time a subject of the Masters apparently joined the Earth defenders he was actually a brainwashed spy, and as a member of the GMP her job description includes hunting down spies ''and'' those who help them.
** Again in "The Masters", supreme commander Anatole Leonard of the Army of the Southern Cross often acts as a BloodKnight, advocating offensives against the technologically superior Robotech Masters in spite of the enemy's superior firepower and defences, rudely ordering the commander of the first counterattack wave to send in the new fighters against the Masters' motherships in spite of the failure of the better-armed large warships, and not caring that the Masters' troops could be actual human beings and not brainwashed micronized Zentraedi (and in fact he apparently refuses to even consider the idea, kicking Dana out of a meeting when she proposes it): aside for being ''less'' bloodthirsty than his superiors in the government (even {{facepalm}}ing at some of their demands), the Masters are unwilling to talk, and the only way to defeat them is through the desperate counterattacks he demands; the new fighters are apparently the ''only'' reason the first wave survives, as they are launched at the same time as the Masters' launch their corvettes for the final blow and prove a match for them; an with the Masters unwilling to talk the actual identity of their soldiers doesn't matter (and in fact believing them being basically biological robots is useful for the troops), and Dana in that meeting was being insubordinate to the point of calling him a fool (Dana is a ''lieutenant''. She was lucky to not get demoted to private);
*** ''Robotech II: The Sentinels'' has another instance at the press conference before the launch of the Pioneer Mission and the Robotech Expeditionary Force with the heavily armed SDF-3 to try and reach a compromise with the Robotech Masters before they attack Earth. When Exedore explains that the Pioneer Mission includes so many heavily armed warships in spite of being a diplomatic reason is because they don't know how the Masters will react and there are no apparent threats to Earth anyway, Leonard jumps up and starts screaming apocalyptic predictions that ''come to pass exactly'': he's not so optimistic about the lack of an enemy threat, and as the watchers already know ''the Masters are already coming to Earth'' (also making the Pioneer mission useless), and that's without Tesla, TheDragon to the Invid Regent, suggesting to track down Zor's ship (the Regent refuses because he hates the Masters too much to abandon the attack on Tirol, but that could have been another threat to Earth), or the Regess deploying the Sensor Nebula to track down the Flower of Life (and that ''is'' another threat to Earth); he declares that "the departure of the SDF-3 and its weapon systems will make Earth hopelessly vulnerable to attack!", and the Masters' motherships have DeflectorShields that make them heavily resistant to anything less than the [[WaveMotionGun Reflex Cannons]] mounted ''exclusively'' on the SDF-3 and some of her escorts, and it's only the return of two waves of REF ships that give the Southern Cross the firepower to score a PyrrhicVictory; he shouts that in case of attack the Robotech Expeditionary Force will be at the other side of the galaxy , and when the Masters arrive the REF is in fact going in that direction. He's so right, and being a jerk about it, it's almost painful to watch...
** Sergeant Angelo Dante. Generally acting sarcastic, dismissing his commanding officer in the 15th Squadron for being a woman and scatterbrained, and when Zor Prime, a bioroid pilot of the Robotech Masters, is shot down and captured and, having lost his memory, is reassigned to the 15th Squadron in the hope he'll recover it and help the Earth armies, treats him as a spy. He's right on two points: his superior officer is the above-mentioned Dana Sterling, [[GeniusDitz a tactical genius with few peers, an incredible ditz outside battle]], and rather childish and spoiled; Zor Prime is a (unwitting and brainwashed) spy, who got his memory wiped and his bioroid shot down by friendly fire ''precisely'' to insert him as a spy, the Masters hoping he'd give the the location of Earth's reserve of Protoculture with the device that transmits everything he sees and hears to them (he succeeds, and as a bonus he accidentally gave forewarning about Earth's counteroffensives against the Masters);
** The twice-mentioned Dana Sterling. She's childish, spoiled and thoughtless, treats Zor Prime as her own personal property, and gets mad when Dante continues keeping an eye on him in spite of mounting evidence he's a spy. But when it comes to tactical decisions she's usually right (she's been even described as a tactical genius, and has proven it by taking on the suicide missions of downing a Masters' mothership and then perform a recon in arms and completing the first successfully with minimal losses and aborting the latter when it became effectively impossible and ''still'' bringing home some useful data plus [[GrandTheftPrototype a completely intact bioroid]] that had tried to cut her escape), and can be counted on providing useful advice when her subordinates have emotional issues;
** Octavia's rant when the Masters imprison her and Allegra for their sister Musica's defection may sound jerkish... Except at this point she's still loyal, even if her clone, raised to think as one with both Octavia and Allegra, has defected (even if this opens a whole other can of worms, what with the Masters' society rejecting individuality...);
** After overcoming the Masters' brainwashing and joining the Southern Cross for real, Zor Prime becomes this out of [[TheCynic cynicism]]. Musica feels bad for having effectively betrayed her people and sisters? he points out she's beyond forgiveness for betraying those who trusted her, just as ''he himself is'' (the fact he ignores how he had been brainwashed into doing it doesn't matter to him: he betrayed first his companions in the 15th Squadron and then the Masters). He declaring he should have stayed on the Masters' mothership that he blew up, never mind how disrespectful to the soldiers who fell in combat until then? He can't trust himself to not fall again to the Masters' conditioning, he's a security risk. Calling Nova and confirming her suspicions about Musica being a Tirolian triumviroid? Read again why he feels he should be dead, and add to it that his phone call is the only reason why Nova (who had almost worked out what was happening on her own) didn't arrest the whole squadron;
** As "The Masters" is full of such guys, it's only appropriate that the eponymous Robotech Masters join the group. In the latter part of the saga the Masters interrupt offensive operations against Earth to try and deal with the Invid Sensor Nebula before it can detect the presence of the Flower of Life and thus summon the Invid... And then often wonder ''why'' the Southern Cross starts launching continuous offensives against their fleet in spite of the Masters' technological superiority translating in superior firepower and robust DeflectorShields that always cause ''heavy'' losses to the Southern Cross. They also imprison Allegra and Octavia for Musica's defection... But as they are triumviroids, that is ''a trio of clones based on the same genetic matrix and raised to think and act as one'', it's only natural they expect the other two to try and defect at the first chance (as they in fact later tried to do) or otherwise do something dangerous now that their sister has started thinking on her own and isn't there to balance them anymore, and strangely generous on their part to not just execute them on the spot;
** During the Battle of Reflex Point, the Invid Regess points at the Robotech Expeditionary Force's all-out offensive trying to reconquer Earth, even having weapons of mass destruction ready in case they lose, as proof that HumansAreBastards. Sure, she may not know just what the Invid Regent did on Tirol, but considering that the Invid occupation of Earth translated in the conquerors not only letting the Humans do as they wished as long as they didn't try to oppose them not tried to break the tigh regulations on Protoculture (that, incidentally, is the fuel for the mechas and guns that can actually pose a danger to the Invid) but also ''repairing Earth's ecosystem after the Zentraedi's bombardment brought it on the brink of collapse'' it's easy to see why she had such a low opinion of the REF. [[spoiler: That and she had recognized the REF new equipment as coming from the Haydonites, meaning their ancient enemy was manipulating the Humans into trying to do the dirty work for them...]]
*** In ''The Sentinels'', every scene involving the Regess, be it her recorded voice or her in person, has her insulting the Regent and his crusade against the Tirolian race, detailing ''why'' she's insulting him. Every single insult and their justification is spot-on.
** To complete the list, we have the Invid Regent. Who, in the one ''Sentinels'' scene in which he appears with his wife he quickly counters her later tirade of insults by pointing out that ''her'' is responsible for their situation in the first place, having got seduced by Zor into giving him the secrets of Protoculture, and that the supposed evolution she's gone through since then looks suspiciously like an imitation of the [[HumanAliens humanlike Tirolians]]. Notable because not only the Regess doesn't counter either of his points, but on Earth (long after she got fed up with him enough to dump him) she tacitly acknowledged the second by ''researching a better form into which transmutate herself and the Invid'' (the fact the research ultimately indicated the Human form as the best one may or may not be a coincidence).
* In ''Wanna Be The Strongest In The World'', local {{Jerkass}} Rio Kazama, who is quite infamous for injuring an Idol and putting the main character on a "Shame Hold" just for kicks, has a point when she berates the former for saying Pro Wrestling is easy, which is further proven when the main character, who is inexperienced in Pro Wrestling, gets utterly defeated for 3 episodes in a row.
* ''Anime/WeissKreuz'': Reiji Takatori is the BigBad of the TV series, and antagonizes Weiss and their boss Persia [[spoiler: aka his brother Shuiichi]]. However, in a certain confrontation, he brings up a pretty valid point in regards to their subordinates (which in Reiji's case, are his ''own sons'' [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Hirofumi]] and {{Ma|dScientist}}safumi), summed up as this: [[spoiler: "You tell ME I use my sons to my advantage?! Look at the way you treat your four subordinates, you hypocrite! Specially the little guy whom you thought he was my kid... and who happens to be YOUR illegitimate son!"]] And then [[spoiler: he kills Persia]].
* ''Anime/YuGiOh'':
** [[IdiotHero Joey Wheeler's]] deck gets stolen by a kid, but he quickly gets it back. Later, he faces Weevil Underwood in a duel, but finds that his deck has been sabotaged, putting him at a disadvantage. Joey and his friends realize that Weevil hired the kid to sabotage the deck and angrily condemn Weevil for cheating. Weevil confirms this, but retorts that it is Joey's fault for being so stupid and naive that he did not inspect his deck after getting it back.
** Later on in the arc, when Yugi is going to confront Joey/Jounouchi, Kaiba, in the original Japanese, tells Yugi that while he showed him the power of cooperation in the tag duel with the Masks of Light and Darkness, he wonders how much that idea will hold up now that his friend is possessed. In the dub, this is changed to him telling Yugi he won't help him unless he stands to benefit.
** During the Virtual World Arc, [[TheDragon Lector]] of [[FiveBadBand The Big Five]] calls out Kaiba on the way he used and abused both The Big Five, and his own brother, Mokuba, during his [[TheCoup coup]] against his father [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Gozaburo]]. While Lector's a bastard, and in no position to criticize, he's not wrong when he points out how unacceptable Kaiba's behaviour was.
** In Joey's duel against Rex Raptor in the Doma Arc the latter gets a good starting hand and manages to summon 3 monsters in his first turn, prompting him to boast about how much stronger he has become since last time he duelled Joey. Joey retorts that he merely got lucky, but Rex immediately points out that's rich coming from someone who only beat him before due to winning a roulette game with Time Wizard. Even Tristan agrees that Rex kind of has a point.
** Weevil gets a bigger one later, in the Doma Arc. When Yami tells him he's horrible, Weevil points out that Yami had used the Seal of Orichalcos in order to win despite knowing that he'd be putting his friend in danger, and that Yugi paid the price. Weevil acknowledges that he is indeed an asshole, but points out that at least he didn't use the seal knowing that he could endanger his friends. Even though he tries not to show it, [[BreakThemByTalking Yami is visibly affected]].
* In ''Anime/ZatchBell'' Brago has just burned the book of a mamodo Zatch befriended. Zatch, angry asks what right Brago had to do that. Brago then proceeds to remind Zatch that the very battle Zatch too is part of requires the destruction of mamodo books to decide a victor. Brago may be a jackass at this point of the series rather than short tempered and violent, but he was definitely within his rights as a contestant.

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