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** Eddard's son Robb Stark unfortunately inherits this trait. [[spoiler: Despite his pledge to marry a Frey lady to seal his alliance with the Freys, he marries another woman, to save her honor after sleeping with her, shortly after Frey men died fighting for him, which eventually leads to them betraying him.]] So does Ned's bastard son, Jon. At least he does right up until [[spoiler: he starts repeatedly doinking his wildling girlfriend, despite his vow of celibacy.]] Although to his credit, he was playing the FakeDefector at the time.
*** Yes, he was doinking her as a matter of sworn duty. Really.
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*** Well, of all the characters, Jon currently has one of the highest concentrations of "heroic" and "alive" so we'll take what we can get.

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** Eddard's son Robb Stark unfortunately inherits this trait. [[spoiler: Despite his pledge to marry a Frey lady to seal his alliance with the Freys, he marries another woman, to save her honor after sleeping with her, shortly after Frey men died fighting for him, which eventually leads to them betraying him.]] So does Ned's bastard son, Jon. At least he does right up until [[spoiler: he starts repeatedly doinking his wildling girlfriend, despite his vow of celibacy.]] Although to his credit, he was playing the FakeDefector at the time.
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*** Well, of ** Of all the characters, Jon currently has one of the highest concentrations of "heroic" and "alive" so we'll take what we can get.



* The entire novel of ''[[DonQuixote Don Quixote De La Mancha]]'' is a parody of the ChivalricRomance of Cervantes' time, including their obsession with honor.

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* The entire novel of ''[[DonQuixote ''[[Literature/DonQuixote Don Quixote De La Mancha]]'' is a parody of the ChivalricRomance of Cervantes' time, including their obsession with honor.
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* Rudolph Rassendyll of ''ThePrisonerOfZenda'' loves Princess Flavia and is loved by her, and she is arranged to be married to her boorish cousin and TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone. Raaendyll admits to himself that the best possible outcome would be allowing the villains to dispose of his look-alike relative before stopping them, allowing him to be a good ruler and be with the woman he loves. However, because of his honor, he helps restore the king to the throne and [[DidNotGetTheGirl does not get the girl]]. For her part, because of her own honor, Flavia accepts being married to a man she despises rather than one she loves.

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* Rudolph Rassendyll of ''ThePrisonerOfZenda'' loves Princess Flavia and is loved by her, and she is arranged to be married to her boorish cousin and TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone. Raaendyll admits to himself that the best possible outcome would be allowing the villains to dispose of his look-alike relative before stopping them, allowing him to be a good ruler and be with the woman he loves. However, because of his honor, he helps restore the king to the throne and [[DidNotGetTheGirl does not get the girl]]. For her part, because of her own honor, Flavia accepts being married to a man she despises rather than one she loves.loves.
* Michael from the ''KnightAndRogueSeries''. He will only lie if absolutely necessary, and lets a murder suspect run free even though doing so will give him one of the most severe punishments the law can deal because he's found evidence she's innocent. In fact, she flat out tells him she can prove her innocence in court, but he's worried because the court he wants to take her to is stacked against her and there's a chance she could be found guilty anyway. Just for added affect, this not actually guilty murderer who choses not to capture despite the penalty had been torturing/experimenting on him several hours before he made this decision.
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* BraveNewWorld: [[NobleSavage John the Savage]], oh so very much.

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* BraveNewWorld: Literature/BraveNewWorld: [[NobleSavage John the Savage]], oh so very much.
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* In Brandon Sanderson's Literature/TheStormlightArchive this is how Dalinar is perceived by his fellow Alethi lighteyes. YourMileageMayVary as to whether this is true.

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* In Brandon Sanderson's Literature/TheStormlightArchive this is how Dalinar is perceived by his fellow Alethi lighteyes. YourMileageMayVary as to whether this is true.Literature/TheStormlightArchive, Dalinar.
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* This attitude gets [[PGWodehouse Bertie Wooster]] into (light comedic) trouble on a regular basis.

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* This attitude gets [[PGWodehouse Bertie Wooster]] Literature/BertieWooster into (light comedic) trouble on a regular basis.

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** [[CatchPhrase Et sularis oth mithas]].

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** [[CatchPhrase Et Est sularis oth mithas]].[[hottip:*:"My honor is my life."]]
** The Knighthood as a whole was doing a-okay right up until [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt the Cataclysm]]. In the aftermath, the public began turning against them, saying that the Cataclysm was either their fault or blaming them for not stopping it. Solamnia was spared much of the destruction that followed, but soon Knights of Solamnia were being murdered by mobs in the streets. Recruitment plummeted and many remaining Knights simply took off their armor and renounced their vows. The larger problem was that the Solamnic Knights were sworn to uphold the Code (seen above) and the Measure, a complicated series of laws that uphold chivalric virtues and knightly behavior. For centuries, most of the Knights' senior leadership posts were vacant because not enough Knights existed to constitute a quorum to vote in new leaders and the Measure made no allowances for a giant meteor wiping out a good chunk of their membership. It wasn't until after the War of the Lance that a revised Measure was drafted that was much more flexible with the formalities. But ''during'' the War of the Lance, a large percentage of the Knighthood was slaughtered because they were ordered into a hopeless CurbStompBattle by a half-insane [[GeneralRipper Knight of the Rose]], Derek Crownguard. They could not refuse, because the Measure made Lord Derek the commander by rank and seniority, nor could they remove him from command because the Measure did not anticipate a Knight commander losing his shit in the middle of a war.
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*** That's pretty much the plot of the Quenta Silmarillion: Things are going well, someone gets a Silmaril, and all the good guys start killing each other.

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*** That's pretty much the plot of the Quenta Silmarillion: Things are going well, someone gets a Silmaril, The hubris, stupidity, and all irrational stubbornness of the good guys start killing each other.guys, especially the elves, does at least as much damage as Morgoth himself.



* Byrhtnoth Byrhthelming, hero of the Anglo-Saxon poem ''Literature/TheBattleOfMaldon'' (fought in 991, making this OlderThanPrint), has a horrible case of this: the Saxon army is on the mainland, the Viking enemy are on a marshy island with a one-man-wide causeway as the only way off, the Viking leader says that a really honourable opponent would let them cross and fight on open ground... and Byrhtnoth ''agrees''. The Saxons are crushed and he dies.

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* Byrhtnoth Byrhthelming, hero of the Anglo-Saxon poem ''Literature/TheBattleOfMaldon'' (fought in 991, making this OlderThanPrint), 991), has a horrible case of this: the Saxon army is on the mainland, the Viking enemy are on a marshy island with a one-man-wide causeway as the only way off, the Viking leader says that a really honourable opponent would let them cross and fight on open ground... and Byrhtnoth ''agrees''. The Saxons are crushed and he dies.
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* Byrhtnoth Byrhthelming, hero of the Anglo-Saxon poem ''TheBattleOfMaldon'' (fought in 991, making this OlderThanPrint), has a horrible case of this: the Saxon army is on the mainland, the Viking enemy are on a marshy island with a one-man-wide causeway as the only way off, the Viking leader says that a really honourable opponent would let them cross and fight on open ground... and Byrhtnoth ''agrees''. The Saxons are crushed and he dies.

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* Byrhtnoth Byrhthelming, hero of the Anglo-Saxon poem ''TheBattleOfMaldon'' ''Literature/TheBattleOfMaldon'' (fought in 991, making this OlderThanPrint), has a horrible case of this: the Saxon army is on the mainland, the Viking enemy are on a marshy island with a one-man-wide causeway as the only way off, the Viking leader says that a really honourable opponent would let them cross and fight on open ground... and Byrhtnoth ''agrees''. The Saxons are crushed and he dies.
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** Some are even observed fighting in hand-to-hand combat and dying from it rather than pick up a fully loaded human weapon at their feet.
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*** One book has a male centaur specifically state that an oath given under duress is not valid, though.
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* Rudolph Rassendyll of ''ThePrisonerOfZenda'' loves Princess Flavia and is loved by her, and she is arranged to be married to her boorish cousin and the WrongfulHeirToTheThrone. Raaendyll admits to himself that the best possible outcome would be allowing the villains to dispose of his look-alike relative before stopping them, allowing him to be a good ruler and be with the woman he loves. However, because of his honor, he helps restore the king to the throne and [[DidNotGetTheGirl does not get the girl]]. For her part, because of her own honor, Flavia accepts being married to a man she despises rather than one she loves.

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* Rudolph Rassendyll of ''ThePrisonerOfZenda'' loves Princess Flavia and is loved by her, and she is arranged to be married to her boorish cousin and the WrongfulHeirToTheThrone.TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone. Raaendyll admits to himself that the best possible outcome would be allowing the villains to dispose of his look-alike relative before stopping them, allowing him to be a good ruler and be with the woman he loves. However, because of his honor, he helps restore the king to the throne and [[DidNotGetTheGirl does not get the girl]]. For her part, because of her own honor, Flavia accepts being married to a man she despises rather than one she loves.
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* Rudolph Rassendyll of ''ThePrisonerOfZenda'' loves Princess Flavia and is loved by her, and she is arranged to be married to her boorish cousin and the WrongfulHeirToTheThrone. Raaendyll admits to himself that the best possible outcome would be allowing the villains to dispose of his look-alike relative before stopping them, allowing him to be a good ruler and be with the woman he loves. However, because of his honor, he helps restore the king to the throne and [[DidNotGetTheGirl does not get the girl]]. For her part, because of her own honor, Flavia accepts being married to a man she despises rather than one she loves.
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* Refreshingly averted in the ''HonorHarrington'' series (even though you'd be forgiven for mistaking the trope name [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming for one of its titles]]): most main characters, while definitely being persons of honor, hold those who enter the LawfulStupid territory due to this in the very low regard. Especially the title character, who once suffered a command officer that tried to use this trope to cover his incompetence.

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* Refreshingly averted in the ''HonorHarrington'' series ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' (even though you'd be forgiven for mistaking the trope name [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming for one of its titles]]): most main characters, while definitely being persons of honor, hold those who enter the LawfulStupid territory due to this in the very low regard. Especially the title character, who once suffered a command officer that tried to use this trope to cover his incompetence.[[hottip:*:Said commander, later made an admiral, got his comeuppance during Haven's Operation Thunderbolt, albeit at the expense of the fleet he commanded and the world it was assigned to guard.]]
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** HonorBeforeReason could easily be the Stark's back-up family motto. Those Starks who don't subscribe to this policy do so usually as part of distancing themself from the house.

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** HonorBeforeReason could easily be the Stark's back-up family motto. Those Starks who don't subscribe to this policy do so usually as part of distancing themself from the house.house, although, at this point, [[spoiler: Arya [[SanitySlippage lacks honor and reason]], Sansa is a ManipulativeBitch in training, and Bran repeatedly {{Mind Rape}}s his mentally disabled friend.]]
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* Eddard "Ned" Stark from ''{{A Song of Ice and Fire}}'' is a classic example, hence the comic on the main page. The series being highly [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism cynical in outlook]], this is a tragic flaw which leads directly to [[spoiler: his own death, his daughter's captivity, and his son's armed rebellion.]]

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* Eddard "Ned" Stark from ''{{A Song ''[[ASongofIceandFire A Game of Ice and Fire}}'' Thrones]]'' is a classic example, hence the comic on the main page. The series being highly [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism cynical in outlook]], this is a tragic flaw which leads directly to [[spoiler: his own death, his daughter's captivity, and his son's armed rebellion.]]

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* In David Wingrove's ''ChungKuo'', members of the House (the parliament) have the son of the T'ang of Europe killed. Knowing where this could lead, the T'ang decides to let matters be. The leader of his army, Marshal Tolonen, does not obey orders. Instead he marches into the House in session and slits the throat of one of the plotters. This sets the stage for everything else.
* BraveNewWorld: [[NobleSavage John the Savage]], oh so very much.
* Kel from TamoraPierce's ''TortallUniverse''. In particular, she goes [[spoiler: into enemy territory with the intent of rescuing 500 refugees]]. By herself.
* Horton The Elephant from DrSeuss is an elephant of unshakable honor; once he gives his word, ''nothing'' will make him go back on it regardless of much danger, humiliation or rejection he suffers. Fortunately, his stories always end with him coming out on top because of this sense of honor.



** Eddard's son Robb Stark unfortunately inherits this trait. [[spoiler: Despite his pledge to marry a Frey lady to seal his alliance with the Freys, he marries another woman, to save her honor after sleeping with her, shortly after Frey men died fighting for him, which eventually leads to his murder.]] So does Ned's bastard son, Jon. At least he does right up until [[spoiler: he starts repeatedly doinking his wildling girlfriend, despite his vow of celibacy.]] Although to his credit, he was playing the FakeDefector at the time.

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** Eddard's son Robb Stark unfortunately inherits this trait. [[spoiler: Despite his pledge to marry a Frey lady to seal his alliance with the Freys, he marries another woman, to save her honor after sleeping with her, shortly after Frey men died fighting for him, which eventually leads to his murder.them betraying him.]] So does Ned's bastard son, Jon. At least he does right up until [[spoiler: he starts repeatedly doinking his wildling girlfriend, despite his vow of celibacy.]] Although to his credit, he was playing the FakeDefector at the time.


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* In David Wingrove's ''ChungKuo'', members of the House (the parliament) have the son of the T'ang of Europe killed. Knowing where this could lead, the T'ang decides to let matters be. The leader of his army, Marshal Tolonen, does not obey orders. Instead he marches into the House in session and slits the throat of one of the plotters. This sets the stage for everything else.
* BraveNewWorld: [[NobleSavage John the Savage]], oh so very much.
* Kel from TamoraPierce's ''TortallUniverse''. In particular, she goes [[spoiler: into enemy territory with the intent of rescuing 500 refugees]]. By herself.
* Horton The Elephant from DrSeuss is an elephant of unshakable honor; once he gives his word, ''nothing'' will make him go back on it regardless of much danger, humiliation or rejection he suffers. Fortunately, his stories always end with him coming out on top because of this sense of honor.
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* Eddard Stark from ''{{A Song of Ice and Fire}}'' is a classic example. The series being highly [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism cynical in outlook]], this is a tragic flaw which leads directly to [[spoiler: his own death, his daughter's captivity, and his son's armed rebellion.]]

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* Eddard "Ned" Stark from ''{{A Song of Ice and Fire}}'' is a classic example.example, hence the comic on the main page. The series being highly [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism cynical in outlook]], this is a tragic flaw which leads directly to [[spoiler: his own death, his daughter's captivity, and his son's armed rebellion.]]
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* The Arkenites in the StarTrekNovelVerse take their debts very seriously. In the StarTrekVanguard series, Klingons save an Arkenite outpost from a disaster in exchange for the outpost swearing allegiance to the Klingon Empire; the residents then refuse to back out. Even though they don't want to leave the Federation or help the Klingons, they all willingly keep to the promise even when Starfleet shows up trying to "liberate" them. To choose gratification over duty and refuse to repay their debt would, their leader explains, be unthinkable.
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* In one of MercedesLackey's [[HeraldsOfValdemar Tarma and Kethry]] stories in ''Oathblood'', Tarma and Kethry (and their Kyree Warrl) get a [[ClingyMacGuffin bad-luck cursed coin]]. Kethry refuses to do anything to pass it off onto another innocent party. Warrl comments, "Admirable. Stupid but admirable."

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* In one of MercedesLackey's [[HeraldsOfValdemar Tarma and Kethry]] stories in ''Oathblood'', Tarma and Kethry (and their Kyree Warrl) get a [[ClingyMacGuffin bad-luck cursed coin]]. Kethry refuses to do anything to pass it off onto another innocent party. Warrl comments, "Admirable. Stupid but admirable."" [[spoiler:They eventually get rid of it by arranging to be targeted by bandits. Kethry only refused to pass it to an innocent party.]]
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* In Brandon Sanderson's TheStormlightArchive this is how Dalinar is perceived by his fellow Alethi lighteyes. YourMileageMayVary as to whether this is true.

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* In Brandon Sanderson's TheStormlightArchive Literature/TheStormlightArchive this is how Dalinar is perceived by his fellow Alethi lighteyes. YourMileageMayVary as to whether this is true.
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* The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Elites]] in the ''Halo'' expanded universe often would rather die with honor than live without. In ''The Cole Protocol'' it's even dishonorable to have another Elite give you a mercy killing, implying you're too weak to even kill yourself.

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* The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Elites]] in the ''Halo'' expanded universe often would rather die with honor than live without. In ''The Cole Protocol'' it's even dishonorable to have another Elite give you a mercy killing, implying you're too weak to even kill yourself.yourself.
* In one of MercedesLackey's [[HeraldsOfValdemar Tarma and Kethry]] stories in ''Oathblood'', Tarma and Kethry (and their Kyree Warrl) get a [[ClingyMacGuffin bad-luck cursed coin]]. Kethry refuses to do anything to pass it off onto another innocent party. Warrl comments, "Admirable. Stupid but admirable."
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***That's pretty much the plot of the Quenta Silmarillion: Things are going well, someone gets a Silmaril, and all the good guys start killing each other.


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*** She knows it will get people's attention. That's why she does it, even though she might be discovered because of it.
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*** [[WhatYouAreInTheDark Laurence would know though]] and explicitly says it makes no difference and is treason either way.

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** For example, his refusal to simply take over Jing province before Cao Cao's arrival, even when Zhuge Liang specifically calls him on it, is because it would be interrupting the "natural" succession to the eldest son of current governor Liu Biao, and he doesn't want to take any criticism from "the people" for it, even though Liu Biao himself requested this. (In an earlier case though, the late governor's officers and people begged Liu Bei to accept the succession, with the governor inadvertently helping by dying on the spot... and even then, he tries to give the office away to ''[[TheDragon Lu Bu]]''.)

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** For example, his refusal to simply take over Jing province before Cao Cao's arrival, even when Zhuge Liang specifically calls him on it, is because it would be interrupting the "natural" succession to the eldest son of current governor Liu Biao, and he doesn't want to take any criticism from "the people" for it, even though the dying Liu Biao himself requested this. (In that Liu Bei be his inheritor. In an earlier case though, of this with the late governor Tao Qian of Xu province, the late governor's officers and people begged Liu Bei to accept the succession, with the governor inadvertently helping by dying on the spot... succession... and even then, after Liu Bei gave in, he tries soon tried to give the office away to ''[[TheDragon ''[[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Lu Bu]]''.)Bu]]''.
** ''DynastyWarriors 7'' had a variation where Liu Bei similarly refused to usurp his relative and host Liu Zhang of Yi province -- even though controlling Yi province was the key step in his advisor Zhuge Liang's "Tripartite Realm" strategy -- leading to his other advisor Pang Tong, and his generals Huang Zhong and Wei Yan, "mutinying" against Liu Zhang on behalf of Liu Bei and "the people," leaving Liu Bei upset until he saw that "the people" seemed to be perfectly fine with this.
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* In Brandon Sanderson's ''Stormlight Archives'' this is how Gavrilan is percieved by his fellow Alethi lighteyes. YourMileageMayVary as to whether this is true.

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* In Brandon Sanderson's ''Stormlight Archives'' TheStormlightArchive this is how Gavrilan Dalinar is percieved perceived by his fellow Alethi lighteyes. YourMileageMayVary as to whether this is true.
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** HonorBeforeReason could easily be the Stark's back-up family motto. Those Starks who don't subscribe to this policy do so usually as part of distancing themself from the house.
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* The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Elites]] in the [[Halo Halo]] expanded universe often would rather die with honor than live without. In ''The Cole Protocol'' it's even dishonorable to have another Elite give you a mercy killing, implying you're too weak to even kill yourself.

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* The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Elites]] in the [[Halo Halo]] ''Halo'' expanded universe often would rather die with honor than live without. In ''The Cole Protocol'' it's even dishonorable to have another Elite give you a mercy killing, implying you're too weak to even kill yourself.
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* The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Elites]] in the [[Halo Halo]] expanded universe often would rather die with honor than live without. In ''The Cole Protocol'' it's even dishonorable to have another Elite give you a mercy killing, implying you're too weak to even kill yourself.
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** It should be noted that Percy's fatal flaw is personal loyalty, which is basically an extreme version of NoOneGetsLeftBehind - ie. he'd prefer the safety of his friends and family over the safety of the world.
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**** "Carrot, what have I told you about the Marquis of '''Bloody''' Fantailler?"

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**** "Carrot, what have I told you about the [[LetsFightLikeGentlemen Marquis of '''Bloody''' Fantailler?"]]'''[[LetsFightLikeGentlemen Bloody ]]'''[[LetsFightLikeGentlemen Fantailler?]]"

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