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*** Of all the ships I support, this is the last one I expected to be canon. Joss has officially redeemed himself for killing Tara.
* The Buffybot talks about Willow "servicing" her in Season Six. When you add in the pre-existing LesYay with Buffy and Willow, Willow's overt homosexuality, and the Buffybot's original purpose...
* The Buffybot talks about Willow "servicing" her in Season Six. When you add in the pre-existing LesYay with Buffy and Willow, Willow's overt homosexuality, and the Buffybot's original purpose...
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** Joss makes it clear Dawn was introduced as an intense ''non-romantic'' interest for Buffy however.
* The Buffybot talks about Willow "servicing" her in Season Six. When you add in the pre-existing LesYay with Buffy and Willow, Willow's overt homosexuality, and the Buffybot's [[SexBot original
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*** Following the 'old mystics' line, it cuts to Giles and you hear Ethan say, 'You know, I find you very attractive. Maybe you could give me a call some time.' Cut back to Ethan hitting on a waitress.
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---> '''Andrew:''' ''(Crying)'' He left me. He flew away and left me. How could he do this to me? He promised we'd be together, but he was just using me. He never really loved... [[LastSecondWordSwap hanging out with us.]]
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** Ehm...
---> ''(Warren gets superpowers, beats up a monster)''
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---> ''(Warren gets superpowers, beats up a monster)''
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* Spike and Giles also have some rather interesting connection, it feels pretty much like BelligerentSexualTension
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* Buffy and Willow have a very developed relationship that strongly rivals the more prominently known Buffy/Faith les yay. This is more noticeable in Seasons 1, 2, and 3 despite their romantic interests. It still appears from time to time in the final three seasons, specifically in Season 7's episode Same Time, Same Place. They link arms several times in the presence of others in school or at school related events (Inca Mummy Girl, and Bad Eggs). They hold hands several times as well in other episodes (The Pack and Some Assembly Required). They hug constantly throughout the series run (Dead Man's Party their hug is treated as a big step towards them making up with one another after Buffy returns). That is just the physical touches, ignoring the incredibly close emotional and supportive bond they have for each other including constantly sharing looks at the same time and mimicking each other's actions (Teacher's Pet).
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* Buffy and Willow have a very developed relationship that strongly rivals the more prominently known Buffy/Faith les yay.Les Yay. This is more noticeable in Seasons 1, 2, and 3 despite their romantic interests. It still appears from time to time in the final three seasons, specifically in Season 7's episode Same Time, Same Place. They link arms several times in the presence of others in school or at school related events (Inca Mummy Girl, and Bad Eggs). They hold hands several times as well in other episodes (The Pack and Some Assembly Required). They hug constantly throughout the series run (Dead Man's Party their hug is treated as a big step towards them making up with one another after Buffy returns). That is just the physical touches, ignoring the incredibly close emotional and supportive bond they have for each other including constantly sharing looks at the same time and mimicking each other's actions (Teacher's Pet).
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*** I think faith/anything probably counts. We do get an interesting insight into her...interests in the season 7 episode "Dirty Girls."
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*** In the first season of buffy he couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. The first time he showed real improvement in his acting was when Spike had him tied up and shirtless in season 2
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*** In the first season of buffy Buffy, he couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. The first time he showed real improvement in his acting was when Spike had him tied up and shirtless in season 22.
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* To this [[DawnBTVS Troper]], Buffy and Willow have a very developed relationship that strongly rivals the more prominently known Buffy/Faith les yay. This is more noticeable in Seasons 1, 2, and 3 despite their romantic interests. It still appears from time to time in the final three seasons, specifically in Season 7's episode Same Time, Same Place. They link arms several times in the presence of others in school or at school related events (Inca Mummy Girl, and Bad Eggs). They hold hands several times as well in other episodes (The Pack and Some Assembly Required). They hug constantly throughout the series run (Dead Man's Party their hug is treated as a big step towards them making up with one another after Buffy returns). That is just the physical touches, ignoring the incredibly close emotional and supportive bond they have for each other including constantly sharing looks at the same time and mimicking each other's actions (Teacher's Pet).
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* To this [[DawnBTVS Troper]], Buffy and Willow have a very developed relationship that strongly rivals the more prominently known Buffy/Faith les yay. This is more noticeable in Seasons 1, 2, and 3 despite their romantic interests. It still appears from time to time in the final three seasons, specifically in Season 7's episode Same Time, Same Place. They link arms several times in the presence of others in school or at school related events (Inca Mummy Girl, and Bad Eggs). They hold hands several times as well in other episodes (The Pack and Some Assembly Required). They hug constantly throughout the series run (Dead Man's Party their hug is treated as a big step towards them making up with one another after Buffy returns). That is just the physical touches, ignoring the incredibly close emotional and supportive bond they have for each other including constantly sharing looks at the same time and mimicking each other's actions (Teacher's Pet).Pet).
** Further explained in this [[http://dh523.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/a-buffy-and-willow-manifesto/ ten reason manifesto]]
** Further explained in this [[http://dh523.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/a-buffy-and-willow-manifesto/ ten reason manifesto]]
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** Ethan: "Oh, we go back - we go ''way'' back."
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*** Also in "A New Man", Ethan describes them as 'a couple of old mystics' in about the same tone of voice he'd use to call them 'a couple of old queens' (maybe more of a British thing), and after Ethan tells him that 'the night is still [their] time, the time of magic,' the scene immediately cuts to Willow and Tara sharing one of their most obvious 'MAGIC IS HOMOSEXUALITY' moments. Yeah, Joss was not subtle about that one.
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** Well given that the actor is gay and that Joss and him always considered the character gay...
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** Since Angel Season 5 has him mention him and Angelus were never intimate "except that one time", I'd say Spike, like most of the cast (even though the word seems to be missing from their universe) is bisexual.
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*** Some were probably intentional but some tropers seem to think that saying that someone of the same gender is attractive means having hidden homosexual desire for them
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***** Nor is it going into the admitted subtext between Buffy and Dawn. Joss is just awesome, no doubt about it.
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*** Of all the ships I support, this is the last one I expected to be canon. Joss has officially redeemed himself for killing Tara.
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*** Of all the ships I support, this is the last one I expected to be canon. Joss has officially redeemed himself for killing Tara.
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** And all the parallel drawing between Willow/Tara and Buffy/Dawn in ''Tough Love''.
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** It certainly helps that nearly their every encounter comes across not as "Why did you turn away from the dark side, Ripper?" so much as "What happened to ''us'', Ripper?" Either that, or it's a noticeably more serious case of GoKartingWithBowser considering how often Ethan's visits get people killed.
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** It certainly helps that nearly their every encounter comes across not as "Why did you turn away from the dark side, Ripper?" so much as "What happened to ''us'', Ripper?" Either that, or it's a noticeably more serious case of GoKartingWithBowser considering how often Ethan's visits get people killed. killed.
***Parodied in "A New Man" when Giles thinks Ethan is drunkenly hitting on him when he's really hitting on the waitress.
***Parodied in "A New Man" when Giles thinks Ethan is drunkenly hitting on him when he's really hitting on the waitress.
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** It certainly helps that nearly their every encounter comes across not as "Why did you turn away from the dark side, Ripper?" so much as "What happened to [i]us[/i], Ripper?" Either that, or it's a noticeably more serious case of GoKartingWithBowser considering how often Ethan's visits get people killed.
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** It certainly helps that nearly their every encounter comes across not as "Why did you turn away from the dark side, Ripper?" so much as "What happened to [i]us[/i], ''us'', Ripper?" Either that, or it's a noticeably more serious case of GoKartingWithBowser considering how often Ethan's visits get people killed.
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***I think faith/anything probably counts. We do get an interesting insight into her...interests in the season 7 episode "Dirty Girls."
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** It certainly helps that nearly their every encounter comes across not as "Why did you turn away from the dark side, Ripper?" so much as "What happened to [i]us[/i], Ripper?" Either that, or it's a noticeably more serious case of GoKartingWithBowser considering how often Ethan's visits get people killed.
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* It's pretty much considered [[strike: c]]fanon that Giles and Ethan were involved in one way or another pre-series.
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* It's pretty much considered [[strike: c]]fanon that Giles and Ethan were involved in one way or another pre-series. [[WordOfGod Writer Jane Espenson]] has said that she thought the two of them had a past involvement romantically.
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* To this [[DawnBTVS Troper]], Buffy and Willow have a very developed relationship that strongly rivals the more prominently known Buffy/Faith les yay. This is more noticeable in Seasons 1, 2, and 3 despite their romantic interests. It still appears from time to time in the final three seasons, specifically in Season 7's episode Same Time, Same Place. They link arms several times in the presence of others in school or at school related events (Inca Mummy Girl, and Bad Eggs). They hold hands several times as well in other episodes (The Pack and Some Assembly Required). They hug constantly throughout the series run (Dead Man's Party their hug is treated as a big step towards them making up with one another after Buffy returns). That is just the physical touches, ignoring the incredibly close emotional and supportive bond they have for each other including constantly sharing looks at the same time and mimicking each other's actions (Teacher's Pet).
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* To this [[DawnBTVS Troper]], Buffy and Willow have a very developed relationship that strongly rivals the more prominently known Buffy/Faith les yay. This is more noticeable in Seasons 1, 2, and 3 despite their romantic interests. It still appears from time to time in the final three seasons, specifically in Season 7's episode Same Time, Same Place. They link arms several times in the presence of others in school or at school related events (Inca Mummy Girl, and Bad Eggs). They hold hands several times as well in other episodes (The Pack and Some Assembly Required). They hug constantly throughout the series run (Dead Man's Party their hug is treated as a big step towards them making up with one another after Buffy returns). That is just the physical touches, ignoring the incredibly close emotional and supportive bond they have for each other including constantly sharing looks at the same time and mimicking each other's actions (Teacher's Pet). Pet).
** The most notable example is probably the opening scene in Season 2's Passion. Xander/Cordelia are walking out of the Bronze clearly treated as a couple, with their arms wrapped around each other. Buffy/Willow are walking in front of (and eventually beside them) with their arms linked together and expressing happiness. The shot from behind the four as they walk away would lead one to assume that Buffy/Willow were a couple just like Xander/Cordelia.
** The most notable example is probably the opening scene in Season 2's Passion. Xander/Cordelia are walking out of the Bronze clearly treated as a couple, with their arms wrapped around each other. Buffy/Willow are walking in front of (and eventually beside them) with their arms linked together and expressing happiness. The shot from behind the four as they walk away would lead one to assume that Buffy/Willow were a couple just like Xander/Cordelia.
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* To this Troper, Buffy and Willow have a very developed friendship that straddles the line of just friends and something more. This is more noticeable in Season 1 - 3 (rewatch the episodes and count how many times they share looks), along with several moments of physical hugs and hand holding, sleeping in the same bed on occasion, not to mention the handful of declarations of, "I Love You" from one to the other. What's striking is Buffy originally spurned Cordelia (seeking out Willow instead) along with "living" with Willow first in the same dorm room at college before Willow and Tara move into Buffy's home. Note Season 6's "Gone" for a humorous address from Buffy about being gay with Willow.
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* To this Troper, [[DawnBTVS Troper]], Buffy and Willow have a very developed friendship relationship that straddles strongly rivals the line of just friends and something more. more prominently known Buffy/Faith les yay. This is more noticeable in Seasons 1, 2, and 3 despite their romantic interests. It still appears from time to time in the final three seasons, specifically in Season 1 - 3 (rewatch 7's episode Same Time, Same Place. They link arms several times in the presence of others in school or at school related events (Inca Mummy Girl, and Bad Eggs). They hold hands several times as well in other episodes (The Pack and count how many times they share looks), along Some Assembly Required). They hug constantly throughout the series run (Dead Man's Party their hug is treated as a big step towards them making up with several moments of one another after Buffy returns). That is just the physical hugs touches, ignoring the incredibly close emotional and hand holding, sleeping in supportive bond they have for each other including constantly sharing looks at the same bed on occasion, not to mention the handful of declarations of, "I Love You" from one to the other. What's striking is Buffy originally spurned Cordelia (seeking out Willow instead) along with "living" with Willow first in the same dorm room at college before Willow time and Tara move into Buffy's home. Note Season 6's "Gone" for a humorous address from Buffy about being gay with Willow.mimicking each other's actions (Teacher's Pet).
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** Let's not forget Willow plying [[spoiler: Satsu]] for details after she found out she [[spoiler: slept with Buffy]] in Season 8.
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** Yes. It was obvious. Although Spike was [[BrainwashedAndCrazy under the First Evil's control]] at the time, it arguably could be considered MoreThanMindControl.
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** To elaborate, the episode "Dead Things" had Buffy break down crying in Tara's lap over [[CameBackWrong Coming Back Wrong]], begging Tara to not forgive her.
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* Xander explained why Willow would find Oz attractive. Later, he explained why Buffy would find Spike attractive. Which lead to the immortal line, "I am not having sex with Spike - but I'm starting to think that you might be." Spander is very popular in FanFic.
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** That's not the only immortal line coupling Xander and HoYay. The first time he sees the Initiative's ElaborateUndergroundBase: "Can I sleep with Riley too?" He sounds at least as sincere as he did when he half-jokingly suggested a "pre-birthday spanking" for Buffy in season two.
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*** In the first season of buffy he couldnt act his way out of a paper bag. the first time he showed improvement in his acting was when spike had him tied up and shirtless in season 2
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* Four words: Season Eight, issue 12.Issue 12.
** To explain, Buffy slept with a fellow Slayer in Satsu (in which [[HilarityEnsues hilarity ensued post coital talk)]]. They later slept together again in Issue 15.
** To explain, Buffy slept with a fellow Slayer in Satsu (in which [[HilarityEnsues hilarity ensued post coital talk)]]. They later slept together again in Issue 15.
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**** A decent part of it is [[WordOfGod Joss]] basically saying bring your own subtext to the show. Several characters (Xander and Willow) were setup as possibly being gay in future seasons. Several other characters have been hinted as having or shown to have same sex encounters (Giles with Ethan Rayne, Angel and Spike, Buffy with Satsu, Buffy with Faith). That isn't even going into the canon Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual characters on the show such as Larry, Tara, Vampire Willow, and Kennedy.
**** A decent part of it is [[WordOfGod Joss]] basically saying bring your own subtext to the show. Several characters (Xander and Willow) were setup as possibly being gay in future seasons. Several other characters have been hinted as having or shown to have same sex encounters (Giles with Ethan Rayne, Angel and Spike, Buffy with Satsu, Buffy with Faith). That isn't even going into the canon Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual characters on the show such as Larry, Tara, Vampire Willow, and Kennedy.
