History Headscratchers / XenobladeChronicles3FutureRedeemed

*** There are some problems with the above as far as them indicating how much time has passed, recall that the decapitation was also considered a "ceremony" of sorts and was also called Homecoming. That Glimmer describes it as offering up her life instead of being "sent" further implies she is talking about the decapitation (Ashera also said the beheading was described as "offering up" life)). Besides, we know the sending version of Homecoming didn't start until after M became a Moebius, after the City was destroyed, etc. The thousand years is how much time passed after the sending ceremony for Homecoming started. So the five cycles plus 70 years would amount to a minimum of 130 years before the events of ''Future Redeemed,'' more if Noah and Mio weren't reborn after each death within a year. Alpha took over Origin over a decade before ''Future Redeemed,'' but if that wasn't the same event where Rex, Shulk and Z faced him then we're in the dark about how long ago that fight was, so I'm inclined to think they were the same event. So we are left again with the issues I gave for how Rex, Shulk, Panacea and Linka do not act like they have been in Aionios for decades, let alone a century, i.e. there are many places in the game where its stated they haven't seen a particular location in Aionios before (instead remarking on how they last saw it in their original worlds), which would be hard to believe if they have been wandering around for over a hundred years. That Linka and Panacea have stated ages unlike the Nopon also goes against the idea they are older than they look. One idea I've seen is that they were somehow sent from their old worlds into Aionios around the time that Alpha emerged (i.e. around 15 years before ''Future Redeemed''), presumably in order to confront him.
*** Some Nopon have ages, some don't. The ones who don't could be chalked down to keeping information secret. As for the locations, the world of Aionios is constantly changing because of Annihilation Events and battles, and it's implied by the main story of 3 that the scale of the world is a lot bigger than gameplay suggests, was even bigger a thousand years ago, and we know that it still takes quite a lot of time in-universe even when the heroes are in a mad rush, so it's not that weird that they wouldn't have noticed some things. The battle with Alpha seems to have happened after Shulk and Rex had been fighting with Z for at least a while, and if that cutscene is supposed to have been relatively recent, then it's probably because of how Alpha draws strength from the new lives of the City. There wouldn't have been enough of them in the past to fuel him to act beforehand.

*** They're not part of the cycle, same as Nia and Melia (who has definitely outlasted the couple of centuries she would usually have), and same as it's strongly implied of at least a portion of the members of the Nopon caravans (this plus their other knowledge of the old world also being implied for why they held a truce with Moebius not to interfere). If you're not tied to the Flame Clock or born within Aionios (whether due to being Moebius or from the old world) then it follows that you don't have to abide by the same rules.

*** Some Nopon have ages, some don't. The ones who don't could be chalked down to keeping information secret. As for the locations, the world of Aionios is constantly changing because of Annihilation Events and battles, and it's implied by the main story of 3 that the scale of the world is a lot bigger than gameplay suggests, was even bigger a thousand years ago, and we know that it still takes quite a lot of time in-universe even when the heroes are in a mad rush. The battle with Alpha seems to have happened after Shulk and Rex had been fighting with Z for at least a while, and if that cutscene is supposed to have been relatively recent, then it's probably because of how Alpha draws strength from the new lives of the City. There wouldn't have been enough of them in the past to fuel him to act beforehand.

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** Linka's comment implies the people from the old worlds were spawned into Aionios intact from day one. At the ''very'' least, Noah and Mio have gone through roughly five cycles' worth of lives before then reaching Homecoming age, and then 70 more years have passed since that time to get to Matthew's generation, so a good amount of time has passed since then. And while it's not the most reliable measure (many of the child models for the main party in ''3'' are just the current models shrunk down because generating a separate model for the various ages takes work), character model rips for the intro cutscene with Shulk and Rex versus Alpha indicates nothing about them changed aside from their injuries and hair length, with any seeming lack of age lines in the flashback being the result of the lighting. So presumably Panacea and Linka are frozen at their current ages, and if they are dead in the present, they probably died in battle as opposed to old age.

** I wouldn't say that is clarified at all. Riku states Melia being captured happened "yonks and yonks" ago soon after Ouroboros power was used for the first time (and we know that power in that imperfect state has been used for a lot longer than 15 years) and the power proved inadequate, leading to Melia's capture and Nia going into hiding. Unless I missed something, 15 years ago was apparently simply a big battle that made Moebius leave the City alone for a while.

So Origin apparently had all three of the Trinity Processors at one point. Presumably Pyra and Mythra could turn back into Pneuma and we see Shulk find Ontos on a beach in a flashback, but ''where the hell'' did the Alrest crew get a spare Logos from? Malos straight up [[DisappearsIntoLight dissolved into light]] and left no trace of himself when he died, Logos core and all.
* One way to explain it would be to assume that, just like Pneuma and (eventually) Ontos got split into two, so too was Logos at some point. The problem is figuring out ''when'' that could've happened.
* [[AWizardDidIt Part of Klaus's final gift was making the Logos core reappear again perhaps?]] Otherwise this sounds like a PlotHole, given that it would be hard to justify Logos splitting himself in two when he was already dead, considering Pneuma and Ontos only did it when they were alive.
* Where is it said Origin had all three? It was only stated that Ontos' Core was used as a power source and that the core was used as the basis for Origin's overall design. We see all three cores being in the Trinity Processor, but this was a flashback to the original, was it not? Further, it's repeatedly stated Logos and Pneuma are no longer around, making it unclear just what the Malos-like energy and Pneuma-like Core Crystal mean beyond that there is some connection there. Perhaps, Pyra, Mythra and Malos simply could no longer be what Pneuma and Logos were, given how they had developed into new beings, but could still serve other functions. We know Malos continued to exist and had some link to the living world, given how he speaks to Pneuma after death.

* All that is clarified for certain is that this is 15 years since Melia was abducted into Origin, so the robo-Queens are ruling.