History Headscratchers / TheThiefAndTheCobbler

* This only bugs me in the official cut, but... why does Tack spend so much of the film with a nail or two in his teeth? I mean, I know it's supposed to be [[spoiler:ChekhovsGun]], but I still believe it ridiculous that he never spits them out, ''even after'' [[spoiler:he uses one to destroy the machine.]] Why does he never spit them out?

* Does Fido actually [[spoiler: grow a larger beak to eat Zig Zag]] or is it simply a sight gag meant to symbolize his carnivorous nature?

* What is the origin of the One-Eyes? It is known that they are an army of malevolent warriors that invaded many kingdoms, but it is not known where they come from, are they Persians? Mongols or are they from the Turkic people?

* What is the origin of the One Eye? It is known that they are an army of malevolent warriors that invaded many kingdoms, but it is not known where they come from, are they Persians? Mongols or are they from the Turkic people?

** The cobbler's "master" does not appear because he does NOT exist, the fact that Tack was a cobbler's apprentice is precisely that, another Miramax invention just like the golden city is Baghdad. In Fred Calvert's cut he doesn't say anything about being a disciple, not even in the Recobbled Cut version.

** The cobbler's "master" does not appear because he does NOT exist, the fact that Tack was a cobbler's apprentice is precisely that, another Miramax invention just like the golden city is Baghdad. In Fred Calvert's cut he doesn't say anything about being a disciple, not even in the recobbled cut version.

* In the Miramax version, Tack describes himself as an "apprentice cobbler." Who's he apprenticed ''to'', and why is that person never seen or acknowledged?

** It may be a case of misinterpreting the prophecy. The prophecy stated that if the balls were ever removed from the tower, the city would fall to destruction unless saved by a simple soul. It doesn't actually state the the balls being removed is the cause of the destruction, or that the balls being removed allows the destruction. It could be interpreted that the balls' disappearance is simply a sign of the impending doom; it's a symptom, not a cause. As for the importance of the Mighty One-Eye having the balls, what better way to humiliate and demoralize your opponent than parading around their most sacred treasure as an early proclamation of your victory and declaration of your power?

** It could be a reference to his [[EvilChancelor double-crossing nature]].

** Zigzag's feet move to form zigzags, actually; it's noticeable during his parade in his debut scene.

* Why is Zigzag named that? He doesn't really have anything to do with zig-zags... If anything, he seems to be more associated with spirals (his beard, his shoes...)

* Does Fido actually [[spoiler: grow a larger beak to eat Zig Zag]] or is it simply a sight gag meant to symbolize his carnivorous nature?

* Does Fido actually [[spoiler: grow a larger beak to eat Zig Zag]] or is it meant to be symbolic of his carnivorous nature?

** All of [[spoiler: his harem appeared plump. Their combined weight made his armor collapse on him when they all sat on him. As for how they easily surrounded him, Mighty One Eye believed he had an easy victory over the Golden City, so he probably brought his harem with him for after the battle. When the women saw the One Eye army fall, they realized they had a chance to repay Mighty One Eye for all the poor treatment he gave them and the women took their opportunity.]]

* Not really a gripe, but a question--can anybody tell me the name of the music that plays in the scene where Tack fixes [=YumYum=]'s slipper?
** Depends on the version. In the released, it's original music by RobertFolk. But in the unfinished, it's unknown, probably also original. The unfinished version has been confirmed to contain some original music - [[http://thethief1.blogspot.com/2007/11/original-opening-scene-of-film-was.html the one played during the opening credits at least is.]]

* Does anyone else think that Tack might have been tacked in after making Zig-Zag and the Thief the main characters? I've seen the recobbled cut and it's mostly the Thief and Zig-Zag with the occasional Tack and Yum-Yum scenes thrown in.
* What was up with that scene where the Thief gets on Yumyum's bed and a bunch of wolf heads rise up? It was a trippy scene, I just want to know what the deal with it was.

** It was supposed to be because he got a tan for going out in the desert - but because production was taken over by a much cheaper and lazier team of animators (and ''cel painters'', who are the real culprit) in the middle of production, Tack has wrong skin colour in the scene where he begins his journey.
*** I thought that was his natural color, and he was just pale because he stayed inside all day.
*** Yeah, that's the reason, too - but he gets tan before ever being exposed to sunlight, which is a colourisation error. The Recobbled Cut did some fixes, such as the eunuchs being painted purple instead of dark brown, but that one scene remains.

* Not really a gripe, but a question--can anybody tell me the name of the music that plays in the scene where Tack fixes YumYum's slipper?

** It was supposed to be because he got a tan for going out in the desert - but because production was taken over by a much cheaper and lazier team of animators (and ''cel painters'', who are the real culprit) in the middle of production, Tack has wrong skin colour in the scene where he begins his journey. And since Fred Calvert was such a cheapskate, TheyJustDidntCare.

** Well considering that One Eye gets them soon after they're stolen it could mean that there's a high-power on the side of whoever has them. Then again it could simply be a story that's been passed down and believed to be truth.

* I know that Karma is Karma, but why the Mighty One Eye, a fierce and bloody warlord, [[spoiler: let his harem of maidens surround and sit on him]]? Furthermore, he was wearing a ton of armor, how could they crush him like that?

* I'll admit that I haven't seen any of this film beyond {{the Nostalgia Critic}}'s review of it, but how come Tack is considered "mute"? He is shown singing in several songs, among other places. Again, I haven't seen the whole film, so I'm sure this has a reasonable answer that I'm just missing.
** I'd assume that he's only shown speaking when there's no-one else around, so everyone just assumes he's mute (I've only seen the NC's review too, so I don't know for sure). In the official cut, I don't think he speaks at all.
** Same guy here; having now watched the recobbled cut, I can say that Tack does speak one line right at the end of the film (it's a bit jarring actually). Other than that, he's completely silent. I don't think the version the NC reviewed can really be considered 'canon', so the songs there don't count.
** Wikiquote says Tack speaks a few words with Yum-Yum and her nanny while fixing the shoe.
*** That's only in the Disneyfied versions though. In the original, he doesn't talk at all (save for a single line at the end), but due to ExecutiveMeddling, a lot of LullDestruction was applied and Tack was made to talk all the time.

* Anyone else notice the Nostalgia Critic was making fun of stuff that was actually in the movie ''before'' Miramax had their way with it?
** Well it's beautiful animation, but it's not a perfect movie. The Critic pretty much says that too. It's his job to review it and he does. He bashes things from the original version and the crap-version with the same furor, so it woulda been nice if he distinguished between the two, but oh well.
*** Well, a lot of the stuff from the original version gets kind of ruined when the stuff from the new version ignores or contradicts it. The original stuff that is good, well, it gets overshadowed by the really bad stuff that Miramax threw in.
** One example of bashing the original itself is the tan skin inconsistency. Might as well he was bashing on the new release's laziness to fix that.
*** The inconsistency didn't exist in the original. That scene where Tack goes out during the night [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sajiV5z2FA&feature=player_detailpage#t=500s was all in storyboards, with a white-skinned Tack]]. The mistake, as noted below, was made by the new, inferior team. The Recobbled Cut, which is a fan-project made largely by a single person, uses that animation (to make it more finished).

**** Yeah, that's the reason, too - but as TheNostalgiaCritic pointed out, he gets tan before ever being exposed to sunlight, which is a colourisation error. The Recobbled Cut did some fixes, such as the eunuchs being painted purple instead of dark brown, but that one scene remains.