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** [[spoiler: 6 Year Old]] Michael Myers pre-reboot would like to have a word with you.

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** [[spoiler: 6 [[spoiler:6 Year Old]] Michael Myers pre-reboot would like to have a word with you.



** The movie is released now, and all I will say is that it basically takes place in another continuity.

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** The movie is released now, and all I will say is that it basically takes place in another continuity.continuity.
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** Never mind how the hidden areas were ''built'': how was Brahms able to remain so completely undetectable as he was living there? Even if he has his own bathroom hidden away as well as his kitchenette, you'd think his need to shower, cook, dispose of garbage, and/or use the toilet would create enough sounds from the plumbing and smells from the stove to suggest that somebody's around.
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* It's very possible that previously the Heelshires sought out women with no living family who would come around asking questions if one of them disappeared.

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* ** It's very possible that previously the Heelshires sought out women with no living family who would come around asking questions if one of them disappeared.
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* It's very possible that previously the Heelshires sought out women with no living family who would come around asking questions if one of them disappeared.

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* Why is [[spoiler:Brahms]] so strong? He [[spoiler:has been living inside the walls without sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8 years old]], should not he be physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place?
** [[spoiler: Possibly he has access to the roof and can get some fresh air and sunshine when nobody's around to spot him up there.]]
** [[spoiler: And it's entirely likely he eats normally most of the time. He does have his own refrigerator and stove, after all.]]
** Yet he is [[spoiler: badly burnt and presumably never received any medical attention. Would he not have succumbed to some sort of bacterial infection?]].

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* Why is [[spoiler:Brahms]] Brahms so strong? He [[spoiler:has has been living inside the walls without sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8 years old]], should not old, shouldn't he be physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place?
** [[spoiler: Possibly he has access to the roof and can get some fresh air and sunshine when nobody's around to spot him up there.]]
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** [[spoiler: And it's entirely likely he eats normally most of the time. He does have his own refrigerator and stove, after all.]]
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** Yet he is [[spoiler: badly burnt and presumably never received any medical attention. Would he not have succumbed to some sort of bacterial infection?]].infection?.



* Um, so [[spoiler: Brahms]] is the one whose supposed to be the BigBad but I can't help but feel like the Heelshires were more deserving of that title. I'm not saying its always the case but generally speaking children don't just turn [[EnfantTerrible evil or "odd"]] on their [[AbusiveParents own]]. Plus there's that whole fire thing that never gets explained. Did the [[spoiler: Heelshires set it to [[OffingTheOffspring kill]] him?]] If so no wonder [[spoiler: Brahms is AxeCrazy]].

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* Um, so [[spoiler: Brahms]] Brahms is the one whose supposed to be the BigBad but I can't help but feel like the Heelshires were more deserving of that title. I'm not saying its always the case but generally speaking children don't just turn [[EnfantTerrible evil or "odd"]] on their [[AbusiveParents own]]. Plus there's that whole fire thing that never gets explained. Did the [[spoiler: Heelshires set it to [[OffingTheOffspring kill]] him?]] him? If so no wonder [[spoiler: Brahms is AxeCrazy]].AxeCrazy.



* Why did [[spoiler: Brahms kill Cole but not Malcolm when he came out of the wall]] or when he knocked Malcolm out earlier? It's obvious he didn't think (and was clearly correct) that Greta had not escaped yet and he did not see her watching until she called for Malcolm. Was it because he saw Malcolm and Greta making out earlier (it was without a doubt him watching them through the keyhole and who turned on the music) and knew Malcolm loved Greta genuinely unlike Cole who was an abusive Jerkass? Because that does not seem like him.
** Possibly [[spoiler: Brahms assumed that having Malcolm around was the only thing stopping Greta from leaving altogether. Also, Malcolm had been delivering supplies to the household for years; it's reasonable to assume that Brahms thought of him as somebody he "knew", even if they'd never met face to face. Cole, conversely, was an intruder who'd destroyed the doll through which Brahms had attained what little (indirect) social relationship existed between Greta and himself.]]
* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook, yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]

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* Why did [[spoiler: Brahms kill Cole but not Malcolm when he came out of the wall]] wall or when he knocked Malcolm out earlier? It's obvious he didn't think (and was clearly correct) that Greta had not escaped yet and he did not see her watching until she called for Malcolm. Was it because he saw Malcolm and Greta making out earlier (it was without a doubt him watching them through the keyhole and who turned on the music) and knew Malcolm loved Greta genuinely unlike Cole who was an abusive Jerkass? Because that does not seem like him.
** Possibly [[spoiler: Brahms assumed that having Malcolm around was the only thing stopping Greta from leaving altogether. Also, Malcolm had been delivering supplies to the household for years; it's reasonable to assume that Brahms thought of him as somebody he "knew", even if they'd never met face to face. Cole, conversely, was an intruder who'd destroyed the doll through which Brahms had attained what little (indirect) social relationship existed between Greta and himself.]]
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* Its It's been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook, yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: like: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]discovered?



** If the house is up for sale, then the Heelshires' deaths are probably known. But it's likely that nobody knows ''why'' they [[spoiler: committed suicide]].

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** If the house is up for sale, then the Heelshires' deaths are probably known. But it's likely that nobody knows ''why'' they [[spoiler: committed suicide]].suicide.
** The movie is released now, and all I will say is that it basically takes place in another continuity.

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** He said "I'll kill him just like the others!". Remember the nannies that got "rejected" by him? He defienetly killed more people than Cole and the girl.

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** He said "I'll kill him just like the others!". Remember the nannies that got "rejected" by him? He defienetly definitely killed more people than Cole and the girl.



** Well she did think (but we know she was wrong) she killed Brahms, so maybe she felt she didn't need to alert the authorities.

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** Well she did think (but we know she was wrong) she killed Brahms, so maybe she felt she didn't need to alert the authorities.authorities.
** If the house is up for sale, then the Heelshires' deaths are probably known. But it's likely that nobody knows ''why'' they [[spoiler: committed suicide]].
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** Older British mansions sometimes had servants' passages that were designed to be all but invisible to the wealthy inhabitants and their guests. Depending on when it was built, the house might also have been equipped with secret hiding spaces for use by smugglers, spies, rebels, and/or whichever religion was being persecuted at the time.

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** Older British mansions sometimes had servants' passages that were designed to be all but invisible to the wealthy inhabitants and their guests. Depending on when it was built, the house might also have been equipped with secret hiding spaces for use by smugglers, spies, rebels, and/or whichever religion was being persecuted at the time. The electricity and plumbing could've been installed later on, perhaps during WWII as a fallback shelter in the event of invasion.
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** Older British mansions sometimes had servants' passages that were designed to be all but invisible to the wealthy inhabitants and their guests. Depending on when it was built, the house might also have been equipped with secret hiding spaces for use by smugglers, spies, rebels, and/or whichever religion was being persecuted at the time.
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** Possibly [[spoiler: Brahms assumed that having Malcolm around was the only thing stopping Greta from leaving altogether. Also, Malcolm had been delivering supplies to the household for years; it's reasonable to assume that Brahms thought of him as somebody he "knew", even if they'd never met face to face. Cole, conversely, was an intruder who'd destroyed the doll through which Brahms had attained what little (indirect) social relationship existed between Greta.]]

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** Possibly [[spoiler: Brahms assumed that having Malcolm around was the only thing stopping Greta from leaving altogether. Also, Malcolm had been delivering supplies to the household for years; it's reasonable to assume that Brahms thought of him as somebody he "knew", even if they'd never met face to face. Cole, conversely, was an intruder who'd destroyed the doll through which Brahms had attained what little (indirect) social relationship existed between Greta.Greta and himself.]]

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* Why did [[spoiler: Brahms kill Cole but not Malcolm when he came out of the wall or when he knocked Malcolm out earlier. It's obvisious he didn't think (and was clearly correct) that Greta had not escaped yet and he did not see her watching until she called for Malcolm. Was it becuase he saw Malcolm and Greta making out earlier (it was without a doubt him watching them through the keyhole and who turned on the music) and knew Malcolm loved Greta genuinely unlike Cole who was an abusive Jerkass? Because that does not seem like him.
* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]

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* Why did [[spoiler: Brahms kill Cole but not Malcolm when he came out of the wall wall]] or when he knocked Malcolm out earlier. earlier? It's obvisious obvious he didn't think (and was clearly correct) that Greta had not escaped yet and he did not see her watching until she called for Malcolm. Was it becuase because he saw Malcolm and Greta making out earlier (it was without a doubt him watching them through the keyhole and who turned on the music) and knew Malcolm loved Greta genuinely unlike Cole who was an abusive Jerkass? Because that does not seem like him.
** Possibly [[spoiler: Brahms assumed that having Malcolm around was the only thing stopping Greta from leaving altogether. Also, Malcolm had been delivering supplies to the household for years; it's reasonable to assume that Brahms thought of him as somebody he "knew", even if they'd never met face to face. Cole, conversely, was an intruder who'd destroyed the doll through which Brahms had attained what little (indirect) social relationship existed between Greta.]]
* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook SequelHook, yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]

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* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]

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** He said "I'll kill him just like the others!". Remember the nannies that got "rejected" by him? He defienetly killed more people than Cole and the girl.
*Why did [[spoiler: Brahms kill Cole but not Malcolm when he came out of the wall or when he knocked Malcolm out earlier. It's obvisious he didn't think (and was clearly correct) that Greta had not escaped yet and he did not see her watching until she called for Malcolm. Was it becuase he saw Malcolm and Greta making out earlier (it was without a doubt him watching them through the keyhole and who turned on the music) and knew Malcolm loved Greta genuinely unlike Cole who was an abusive Jerkass? Because that does not seem like him.
* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]discovered?]]
** Well she did think (but we know she was wrong) she killed Brahms, so maybe she felt she didn't need to alert the authorities.
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* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]
** Seems like it's set someplace else, the doll is found in a forest by a young boy.

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* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]
** Seems like it's set someplace else, the doll is found in a forest by a young boy.
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* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]

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** I never got any implication that he killed anybody other than the young girl, really would be questionable how that would have gone unnoticed by the outside world.
* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]discovered?]]
** Seems like it's set someplace else, the doll is found in a forest by a young boy.
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* Why is [[spoiler: Brahms ]] so strong ? He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls without sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8 years old]], should not he be physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?

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* Why is [[spoiler: Brahms ]] [[spoiler:Brahms]] so strong ? strong? He [[spoiler: has [[spoiler:has been living inside the walls without sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8 years old]], should not he be physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?place?
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* Why is it assumed that Brahms has killed several nannies before Greta? His parents privately ask him if he'll accept her, and tell Greta that he's rejected many nannies before her (probably because they weren't young or pretty enough). Furthermore, you'd think Malcolm would know if many of their nannies had disappeared or died, and he'd say something about it to Greta. So how come it's "implied" that she's not his first victim?

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* Why is it assumed that Brahms has killed several nannies before Greta? His parents privately ask him if he'll accept her, and tell Greta that he's rejected many nannies before her (probably because they weren't young or pretty enough). Furthermore, you'd think Malcolm would know if many of their nannies had disappeared or died, and he'd say something about it to Greta. So how come it's "implied" that she's not his first victim?victim?
* Its been announced that a sequel is [[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9173418/?ref_=tt_pg being made]] and the movie ''did'' end with a SequelHook yet it raises questions like [[spoiler: How can Brahms still be there? Surely Greta would've told the authorities that he was there. And how does this new family not know what happened to the Heelshires since by now their bodies must've been discovered?]]

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Why is [[spoiler: Brahms ]] so strong ?
* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls without sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8 years old]], should not he be physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?

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* Why is [[spoiler: Brahms ]] so strong ?
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? He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls without sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8 years old]], should not he be physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?



** It's possible that he gets to move around the house more freely when it's just him and his parents at home, and he mostly stays in the attic when they have company or servants in the house. Maybe he uses that time to exercise.



** [[spoiler: 6 Year Old]] Michael Myers pre-reboot would like to have a word with you.

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** [[spoiler: 6 Year Old]] Michael Myers pre-reboot would like to have a word with you.you.
* Why is it assumed that Brahms has killed several nannies before Greta? His parents privately ask him if he'll accept her, and tell Greta that he's rejected many nannies before her (probably because they weren't young or pretty enough). Furthermore, you'd think Malcolm would know if many of their nannies had disappeared or died, and he'd say something about it to Greta. So how come it's "implied" that she's not his first victim?
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* Um, so [[spoiler: Brahms]] is the one whose supposed to be the BigBad but I can't help but feel like the Heelshires were more deserving of that title. I'm not saying its always the case but generally speaking children don't just turn [[EnfantTerrible evil or "odd"]] on their [[AbusiveParents own]]. Plus there's that whole fire thing that never gets explained. Did the [[spoiler: Heelshires set it to [[OffingTheOffspring kill]] him?]] If so no wonder [[spoiler: Brahms is AxeCrazy]].

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* Um, so [[spoiler: Brahms]] is the one whose supposed to be the BigBad but I can't help but feel like the Heelshires were more deserving of that title. I'm not saying its always the case but generally speaking children don't just turn [[EnfantTerrible evil or "odd"]] on their [[AbusiveParents own]]. Plus there's that whole fire thing that never gets explained. Did the [[spoiler: Heelshires set it to [[OffingTheOffspring kill]] him?]] If so no wonder [[spoiler: Brahms is AxeCrazy]].AxeCrazy]].
** [[spoiler: 6 Year Old]] Michael Myers pre-reboot would like to have a word with you.
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** Yet he is [[spoiler: badly burnt and presumably never received any medical attention. Would he not have succumbed to some sort of bacterial infection?]].
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* How did the Heelshires get all those passages built without drawing attention? There's no way those were part of the initial construction.

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* How did the Heelshires get all those passages built without drawing attention? There's no way those were part of the initial construction.construction.
* Um, so [[spoiler: Brahms]] is the one whose supposed to be the BigBad but I can't help but feel like the Heelshires were more deserving of that title. I'm not saying its always the case but generally speaking children don't just turn [[EnfantTerrible evil or "odd"]] on their [[AbusiveParents own]]. Plus there's that whole fire thing that never gets explained. Did the [[spoiler: Heelshires set it to [[OffingTheOffspring kill]] him?]] If so no wonder [[spoiler: Brahms is AxeCrazy]].
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* How did the Heelshires get all those passages built without drawing attention? There's no way those were par of the initial construction.

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* How did the Hillshires get all those passages built without drawing attention? There's no way those were par of the initial construction.

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* How did the Hillshires Heelshires get all those passages built without drawing attention? There's no way those were par of the initial construction.
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** [[Atd it's entirely likely he eats normally most of the time. He does have his own refrigerator and stove, after all.]]

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* [[spoiler: Possibly he has access to the roof and can get some fresh air and sunshine when nobody's around to spot him up there.]]

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** [[Atd it's entirely likely he eats normally most of the time. He does have his own refrigerator and stove, after all.]]
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* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls whitout sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8 years old]], should not he be physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?.

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* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls whitout without sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8 years old]], should not he be physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?.?
* [[spoiler: Possibly he has access to the roof and can get some fresh air and sunshine when nobody's around to spot him up there.]]
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* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls whitout sunligth and eating leftovers since he was 8]], should not he be phisicaly weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?.

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* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls whitout sunligth sunlight and eating leftovers since he was 8]], 8 years old]], should not he be phisicaly physically weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?.
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* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls whitout sunligth and eating leftovers since he was 8]], should not he be severily weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?.

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* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls whitout sunligth and eating leftovers since he was 8]], should not he be severily phisicaly weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes place ?.
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* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls whitout sunligth and eating leftovers since he was 8]], should not he be severily weakened and/or stunted by the time the movie takes placer ?.

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* He [[spoiler: has been living inside the walls whitout sunligth and eating leftovers since his childhood]], should not he be severily weakened and/or stunted by now ?.

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