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* Okay, spoilers for 7 I guess; Heihachi gambits the situation where he proves to the world that Kazuya is a devil before obliterating G Corp's HQ with his KillSat. Fine, but soon after Kazuya blows the satellite out of the sky and it destroys a town, while G Corp rather transparently starts the rumor that Mishima Zaibatsu dropped it out of the sky for... lulz, I guess? The whole world then kinda forgets that G Corp was run by an actual devil and starts blaming the Zaibatsu because they're only capable of doing one thing at a time. Question: Why the he'll did Mishima not try and spin this in any way? Why did they not claim (somewhat rightly) that G Corp espionage was responsible for the disaster? Hell, why not secure footage from one of a million potential sources that shows Devil Kazuya's shoop-da-whoop from G Corp's ruins. Why did they not even try to say "hey, that incident was terrible, but the rumors we caused it intentionally have no grounds because it's far more likely that our corporate rival - ''which was ran by a victim's DEVIL'' - did it than the possibility that Heihachi got drunk one night and stumbled onto the 'CRASH MULTI-TRILLION YEN SATELLITE INTO MIANUS FOR A CHUCKLE' button."
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* Okay, spoilers for 7 I guess; Heihachi gambits the situation where he proves to the world that Kazuya is a devil before obliterating G Corp's HQ with his KillSat. Fine, but soon after Kazuya blows the satellite out of the sky and it destroys a town, while G Corp rather transparently starts the rumor that Mishima Zaibatsu dropped it out of the sky for... lulz, I guess? The whole world then kinda forgets that G Corp was run by an actual devil and starts blaming the Zaibatsu because they're only capable of doing one thing at a time. Question: Why the he'll hell did Mishima not try and spin this in any way? Why did they not claim (somewhat rightly) that G Corp espionage was responsible for the disaster? Hell, why not secure footage from one of a million potential sources that shows Devil Kazuya's shoop-da-whoop from G Corp's ruins. Why did they not even try to say "hey, that incident was terrible, but the rumors we caused it intentionally have no grounds because it's far more likely that our corporate rival - ''which was ran by a victim's DEVIL'' - did it than the possibility that Heihachi got drunk one night and stumbled onto the 'CRASH MULTI-TRILLION YEN SATELLITE INTO MIANUS FOR A CHUCKLE' button."
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* Okay, spoilers for 7 I guess; Heihachi gambits the situation where he proves to the world that Kazuya is a devil before obliterating G Corp's HQ with his KillSat. Fine, but soon after Kazuya blows the satellite out of the sky and it destroys a town, while G Corp rather transparently starts the rumor that Mishima Zaibatsu dropped it out of the sky for... lulz, I guess? The whole world then kinda forgets that G Corp was run by an actual devil and starts blaming the Zaibatsu because they're only capable of doing one thing at a time. Question: Why the he'll did Mishima not try and spin this in any way? Why did they not claim (somewhat rightly) that G Corp espionage was responsible for the disaster? Hell, why not secure footage from one of a million potential sources that shows Devil Kazuya's shoop-da-whoop from G Corp's ruins. Why did they not even try to say "hey, that incident was terrible, but the rumors we caused it intentionally have no grounds because it's far more likely that our corporate rival - ''which was ran by a victim's DEVIL'' - did it than the possibility that Heihachi got drunk one night and stumbled onto the 'CRASH MULTI-TRILLION YEN SATELLITE INTO MIANUS FOR A CHUCKLE' button."
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**Maybe he's been corrupted by the Devil Gene?
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** Clearly an homage to ''MobileSuitGundam''. Even the mansion you fight on is reminiscent of an episode in ''MobileSuitGundamZZ''.
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* Okay, so they clearly had the budget to hire a multilingual voice cast for ''Tag 2'' and ''7'', but the already existing grunts weren't dubbed over? Surely if they could be bothered to give Heihachi, Xiaoyu and Paul new grunts to reflect their changes in voice actors...why couldn't they do that for anyone else?
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** It probably has something to do with [[VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken Pandora's Box]], which would also explain Ryu crossing over to [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Smash 4]].
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** It probably has something to do with [[VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken Pandora's Box]], which would also explain Ryu crossing over to [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Smash 4]].VideoGame/AsurasWrath.
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** It probably has something to do with [[VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken Pandora's Box]], which would also explain Ryu crossing over to [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Smash 4]].
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** [[Troper/{{FALLOFALL}} This Troper]] always saw Heihachi's actions in that ending as a TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou moment. But, yeah, TakingTheBullet (or laser beam for that matter) probably wasn't the best way to show it. That ending wasn't canon, anyway.
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** He must have known Christie's grandfather was in the knick, to get Eddy out of a riot and teach him Capoeira. That actually seems kind of believable.
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*Why the hell did Heihachi protect Kazuya from Devil's laser in Kazuya's ending? It's the one and (as far as I'm aware) ONLY moment Heihachi has shown anything but hate to him. It came out of nowhere
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* Akuma? ''Fucking Akuma''?! How are they ever gonna explain Akuma getting into the Tekkenverse?
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*** A good joke is that Angel is after True Ogre in the console TTT2 intro because he stole her swimwear. (In this game, True Ogre has 3 customization items that happen to be bikinis hanging off his horns; the bikinis come in 3 colors just like the swimwear for all characters that do have one).
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*** Regardless, I understand the point the OP brought up. Marduk killed King's father figure and not only showed little remorse, he actually desecrates Armor King's grave by digging it up. Forgiveness is one thing, but befriending his mentor's killer and treating his death like it's water under the bridge is the point where fans cry [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanger]].
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*** Regardless, I understand the point the OP brought up. Marduk killed King's father figure and not only showed little remorse, he actually desecrates Armor King's grave by digging it up. Forgiveness is one thing, but befriending his mentor's killer and treating his death like it's water under the bridge is the point where fans cry [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanger]].call bullshit.
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*** Ok, to add an ademendum to the last part, Jin would only go to Heihachi AFTER Jun died (which, [[GiantSpaceFleeFromNowhere thanks to Ogre]], [[BusCrash probably made it happen FAR faster than what Jun intended]]) - and again, if she sent Jin to somebody else, they wouldn't just face Heihachi chasing after them, but [[HiredGuns the entire TEKKEN Force]], (which, in even the earliest games, were depicted as a full-fledged NGOSuperpower). In essence, if Jun sent Jin to [[NatureHero Michelle]] or [[SuperCop Lei]], they would have a "YouAndWhatArmy" moment when Heihachi sics the TEKKEN Force on them - [[CurbStompBattle and likely would've lost in that moment too]].
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** So we could be probably be looking at the next [[FinalFight Poison]]?
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** So we could be probably be looking at the next [[FinalFight [[VideoGame/FinalFight Poison]]?
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** He would have gone home short a couple of limbs if he tried. Jun kicked Devil's ass and could handily handle either Ogre. She wouldn't just break Heihachi's arm she'd rip it right off.
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*** That, or [[HisNameReallyIsBarkeep Her friend's name really IS Jaycee]]!
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** My guess, in response to why Jun told Jin to find Heihachi, was because Heihachi made her AnOfferYouCantRefuse; either she allows Jin to be raised by him (and to be fair, he does raise Jin better than Kazuya... [[SpannerInTheWorks until Jin kills Ogre, ruining his latest scheme]]), OR he'll send GunsForHire to drag Jin away if he's told to live with somebody else, and [[TheyWouldCutYouOpen then would do only God knows what to him afterwards]]. Jun was caught between a rock and a hard place, and thus took the option that would give Jin more time to train before inevitably needing to come to blows with Heihachi.
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*I've always been confused/curious of how Jin Kazama was conceived.
**Jin was obviously conceived out of wedlock. Supposedly Jun had some sort of "soft spot" for Kazuya at some point, but there is never anything that suggests that the feeling was mutual or that the two were even in love. Kazuya clearly had his own issues going on and (from what I understand) didn't take part in his son's upbringing which is one of the reasons why Jin uses his mother's last name. So I guess my question is. . .was the conception of Jin consensual? Did Kazuya actually have affection for Jun at some point but left because he knew about his cursed bloodline and didn't want to involve her? Or did he, as they say, "have his way then go on his way"?
**Jin was obviously conceived out of wedlock. Supposedly Jun had some sort of "soft spot" for Kazuya at some point, but there is never anything that suggests that the feeling was mutual or that the two were even in love. Kazuya clearly had his own issues going on and (from what I understand) didn't take part in his son's upbringing which is one of the reasons why Jin uses his mother's last name. So I guess my question is. . .was the conception of Jin consensual? Did Kazuya actually have affection for Jun at some point but left because he knew about his cursed bloodline and didn't want to involve her? Or did he, as they say, "have his way then go on his way"?
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** But Lars wasn't actually able to kill Azazel. He beat him in a fight, but the latter just got back up again. I think what Jin meant is that he was the only one who could put the latter down permanently. I do think he may qualify as more of a WellIntentionedExtremist then a full on hero. In fact, I bet Jin himself would never consider himself a hero after what he's done.
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** My guess, in response to why Jun told Jin to find Heihachi, was because Heihachi made her AnOfferYouCantRefuse; either she allows Jin to be raised by him (and to be fair, he does raise Jin better than Kazuya... [[SpannerInTheWorks until Jin kills Ogre, ruining his latest scheme]]), OR he'll send GunsForHire to drag Jin away if he's told to live with somebody else, and [[TheyWouldCutYouOpen then would do only God knows what to him afterwards]]. Jun was caught between a rock and a hard place, and thus took the option that would give Jin more time to train before inevitably needing to come to blows with Heihachi.
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*** To go with the "Nina just kicks that hard" theory, I would assume it DOES cause pain to Bryan... the problem is that, since Bryan is an UpToEleven CombatSadomasochist [[{{Squick}} he's too busy GETTING OFF on that pain that he doesn't care about being hurt!]]
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*** [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower There's also the possibility that Nina just kicks that hard.]] [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot Now that I think about it, beyond the Weapons, Doctor Bosconovitch may have designed Alisa to mimic pain as part of making her as much like his daughter as possible.]] But as you pointed out, that still doesn't really explain the Jack Robots, [[WeaksauseWeakness unless they were designed with most unlikely weak spot ever.]]
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*** [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower There's also the possibility that Nina just kicks that hard.]] [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot Now that I think about it, beyond the Weapons, Doctor Bosconovitch may have designed Alisa to mimic pain as part of making her as much like his daughter as possible.]] But as you pointed out, that still doesn't really explain the Jack Robots, [[WeaksauseWeakness unless they were designed with most unlikely weak spot ever.]]
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** The reason is that in the first Tekken game, he was created by the game designers to appeal to Americans, and to compete with StreetFighterII (he is sort of an Expy for Ken with different hair and a beard). When it became clear that this wasn't going to be that type of series, he became a comic relief character who only enters the tournaments because he likes to fight - a mirror for his popularity amongst players.
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** That is a very good question; I've never really thought about it before. Your answer about Alisa is almost certainly correct as, despite the removable arms and explosives, she seems to have been made to be almost completely human. It may even be that she ''doesn't'' even feel pain but rather is designed to mimic it. As for Jack it would appear to be nothing but plain old bad game design as the early Jack's appear to have been modelled after the T-800 model Terminator and the later ones are just hulking great lumps of steel; so there genuinely is no reason why there would be anything down there even if you went to the logical extremes of saying that he has some kind of power core or off-switch between his legs. After all it even works against the likes of Yoshimitsu who is wearing power armour or Mokujin who is made out of wood. Some continuity would have been nice.
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* So why is Bryan Fury apparently the only character in the series with BallsOfSteel (being unaffected by Nina's [[GroinAttack low blow kick]], when the Jack series bots and Alisa shouldn't even have the requisite parts to be affected by such attacks. Alisa being made to mimic humans closely makes sense in a GoneHorriblyRight sort of way, but why would anyone design the Jack bots with the ability to feel pain in a body part they really shouldn't even have?
