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** For the second part, that's directly addressed in the show. Lena states Kaznia attacking the US would be like "a child throwing rocks at a tank," i.e. completely hopeless, ineffective, and likely to get you blown up if the tank decides to get annoyed at the pathetic plinking noise. For the first part. . . well, they could have bought an aircraft carrier from someone else, and while being landlocked would make maintaining it very difficult, it might have been worth it to have ''some'' ability to project force beyond their borders. Or maybe they have a treaty with someone else so they can dock their carrier at the ally's port.

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I don't like the thread, but it is fine to be there. Last comment about "blackwashing" was clearly a troll comment though.



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*** It's called black washing, I think, which isn't taken as seriously as white washing. White washing triggers people while black washing is considered the greatest thing to happen to a character even if they retain the same experiences and personality traits as their white counterparts which should be impossible since there's something called racism.
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*** It's called black washing, I think, which isn't taken as seriously as white washing. White washing triggers people while black washing is considered the greatest thing to happen to a character even if they retain the same experiences and personality traits as their white counterparts which should be impossible since there's something called racism.
*** Uh...I can see why this thread stopped now.
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* Okay, so Kaznia is supposed to be an ex-Soviet republic, located in Siberia. Based on the map they had the general point to, it's pointing to an area just north of Mongolia, which is landlocked. Where in the hell would Kaznians have gotten an aircraft carrier? And why would a single carrier be a threat to the most powerful military in the world? Hell, Kaznians probably wouldn't even have enough troops to occupy the entire United States.
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** Actually, as shown in one of the last scenes from season 4 episode 22 The Quest for Peace, [[spoiler:Eve Tessmacher has only been on Lex's payroll this whole time, not because of her love for him, but because she is also working for an organization called Leviathan. The revealing scene goes like this: Eve, in a dark wig, is trying to slink out of town when she’s stopped by an older woman who tells her that the work she did with Lex may have failed to move the needle, but Eve is still needed. “Leviathan is everywhere. Leviathan is everyone. And Leviathan is coming,” she tells a nervous Eve.]] So we have a lot to look forward to in the upcoming season 5. I'm not sure if this [[spoiler:Leviathan]] will be season five's big bad, but hopefully the writers will let us take a peek into Eve's mysterious past.
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** President Baker was working for Lex Luthor. What do you think the odds are that Lex '''didn't''' at least two dozen vaults full of Kryptonite he kept hidden "just in case?"

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** Given that President Baker was working for Lex Luthor. Luthor, it seems likely the pieces in the White House were from Luthor's private stash. What do you think the odds are that Lex '''didn't''' at least two dozen vaults full of Kryptonite he kept hidden off the books "just in case?"
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** President Baker was working for Lex Luthor. What do you think the odds are that Lex '''didn't''' at least two dozen vaults full of Kryptonite he kept hidden "just in case?"
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** The key word there being all of the '''DEO''' kryptonite.
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** Brainy does mention that he started out bad, mentioning some kind of legacy. It was only after the Legion captured him that he decided to use his gifts for good, making him TheAtoner.


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* So J'onn handed all of the DEO kryptonite to Superman for disposal. Lena learned to make more but hasn't told anyone how to do it. So where did Lex get it? And what about President Baker?
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** Apparently, it was solely to keep tabs on James Olsen. The fact she got in with Lena was just a happy accident.
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* So, how long did Eve say she'd been on Lex's payroll? ('''Eve:''' Forever.) Right, so what was the purpose of taking a job at [=CatCo=], a business that, at the time, had no connection to Lena Luthor. If we're supposed to understand that she's been working for Lex since her introduction as a character, what part of his plan involved Cat Grant?

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* So, how long did Eve say she'd been on Lex's payroll? ('''Eve:''' Forever.) Right, so what was the purpose of taking a job at [=CatCo=], a business that, at the time, had no connection to Lena Luthor. Luthor? If we're supposed to understand that she's been working for Lex since her introduction as a character, what part of his plan involved Cat Grant?
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* So, how long did Eve say she'd been on Lex's payroll? ('''Eve:''' Forever.) Right, so what was the purpose of taking a job at CatCo, a business that, at the time, had no connection to Lena Luthor. If we're supposed to understand that she's been working for Lex since her introduction as a character, what part of his plan involved Cat Grant?

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* So, how long did Eve say she'd been on Lex's payroll? ('''Eve:''' Forever.) Right, so what was the purpose of taking a job at CatCo, [=CatCo=], a business that, at the time, had no connection to Lena Luthor. If we're supposed to understand that she's been working for Lex since her introduction as a character, what part of his plan involved Cat Grant?
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[[folder: Let's talk about Eve Tessmacher. WARNING: HERE THERE BE UNMARKED SPOILERS!]]
* So, how long did Eve say she'd been on Lex's payroll? ('''Eve:''' Forever.) Right, so what was the purpose of taking a job at CatCo, a business that, at the time, had no connection to Lena Luthor. If we're supposed to understand that she's been working for Lex since her introduction as a character, what part of his plan involved Cat Grant?
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* OK, so J'onn was able to take down Red K!Kara in about thirty seconds, if that. Superman calls him "the most powerful being on Earth." And then he gets beaten up by a human with a robotic arm. And then, when there are a bunch of rogue Kryptonians running around, he seems pretty helpless. Have I missed something here?

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* OK, so J'onn was able to take down Red K!Kara in about thirty seconds, if that. Superman calls him "the most powerful being on Earth." He does pretty well against the White Martians. And then he gets beaten up by a human with a robotic arm. And then, when there are a bunch of rogue Kryptonians running around, he seems pretty helpless. Have I missed something here?here? Is there any reason given for why he doesn't just take down all three in an afternoon?
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* OK, so J'onn was able to take down Red K!Kara in about thirty seconds, if that. Superman calls him "the most powerful being on Earth." And then he gets beaten up by a human with a robotic arm. And then, when there are a bunch of rogue Kryptonians running around, he seems pretty helpless. Have I missed something here?
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*** Not exactly. The episode revealed that the lead only has an impact on Daxamites through some kind of manipulation on the part of the device. The children were poisoned by Maxwell Lord so he could play the hero trying to get Lena locked away or murdered.
*** Not true. Maxwell Lord disappeared from the series after season 1. I think you mean Morgan Edge.

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*** ** Not exactly. The episode revealed that the lead only has an impact on Daxamites through some kind of manipulation on the part of the device. The children were poisoned by Maxwell Lord so he could play the hero trying to get Lena locked away or murdered.
*** ** Not true. Maxwell Lord disappeared from the series after season 1. I think you mean Morgan Edge.



* Furthermore, this theory assumes that Superman and J'onn not only know about it, but would likely use Batman as a positive example of who should have kryptonite...but if Kara is put off by someone she considers a friend having some, her opinion wouldn't be changed by being told that the strange man who dresses like a bat and has not met in person has some. If anything she'd be more pissed off, especially because it would suggest Clark lied to her about destroying it because Batman thought ''she'' might be someone he'd need to kill someday!

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* ** Furthermore, this theory assumes that Superman and J'onn not only know about it, but would likely use Batman as a positive example of who should have kryptonite...but if Kara is put off by someone she considers a friend having some, her opinion wouldn't be changed by being told that the strange man who dresses like a bat and has not met in person has some. If anything she'd be more pissed off, especially because it would suggest Clark lied to her about destroying it because Batman thought ''she'' might be someone he'd need to kill someday!



[[folder: Lena had a point about the Kryptonite.]]
* Two out of three seasons have had Kryptonian invasions.
* EVERY Kryptonian, including Superman and Supergirl, have been "evil", even.if it was only temporary.
* Supergirl had no problem with Ollie using a Kryptonite arrow against an evil, alternate Supergirl.
* If Lena didn't have that Kryptonite aerosol, both her and James would have DIED. Supergirl wasn't coming to save them.

* So then... Why does Kara think she should be the sole arbiter regarding the use of Kryptonite?

It makes her look a bit hypocritical.[[/folder]]

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* So, Kara's discovered a city of Kryptonians, Kryptonian culture and found her long-lost mother. She visits twice, taking Mon-El with her each time. Why didn't she think of telling/bringing Clark?

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* Two out of three seasons have had Kryptonian invasions.
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invasions. EVERY Kryptonian, including Superman and Supergirl, have been "evil", even.if it was only temporary.
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Kryptonite? It makes her look a bit hypocritical.[[/folder]]

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* So, Kara's discovered a city of Kryptonians, Kryptonian culture and found
that. But for an in-universe reason, it ''was'' hypocritical. Lena complained about it more than once. Kara was so focused on how much Kryptonite hurts her, personally, that she failed to consider how useful it is against people who are like her long-lost mother. She visits twice, taking Mon-El with but lack her each time. Why didn't she think of telling/bringing Clark?morals. Apparently being affected by Kryptonite is like being tortured.



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* So, Kara's discovered a city of Kryptonians, Kryptonian culture and found her long-lost mother. She visits twice, taking Mon-El with her each time. Why didn't she think of telling/bringing Clark?
** Answered in season 4: She does tell him, he goes there for a vacation, and she covers his duties while he's gone.
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** Perhaps the DEO's weapons will simply "replace" the guns with some kind of sci-fi "stun ray" that changes nothing about the fights save for the implication that those that DEO agents shoot are just, well, immobilized instead of injured. [[/folder]]

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* Why does Sam become human when Reign is defeated? I'm not saying she should be able to do the extra stuff that Reign can do, but isn't she still from Krypton?

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* Why does Sam become human when Reign is defeated? I'm not saying she should be able to do the extra stuff that Reign can do, but isn't she still from Krypton?
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* Why does Sam become human when Reign is defeated? I'm not saying she should be able to do the extra stuff that Reign can do, but isn't she still from Krypton?
** [[AWizardDidIt Magic]]. Magic suppressed her powers until she was an adult, magic gave her more powers on top of the normal Kryptonian ones, and magic took all of them away when Reign was exorcised.

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** Or they're ''talking'' about building a wall to keep out the Mexicans, but no one is really spending money on it because they have actual space aliens to worry about. Maggie's dad was likely just exaggerating for effect. Hearing people talking about building a wall to keep you out hurts even if you know it's never going to happen.
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** The global warming bit isn't that weird. Alien invasions can be fought off, and they have superheroes to help with that. The Mexico Wall is possible if Congress is further right than it is in the real world.
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* There were a few obviously political potshots in the third season that just... didn't make sense in-universe. Cat refers to global warming as the greatest threat of our time, for instance. Okay, true on our world, but in-universe? Dude, your planet has been invaded twice in three years. And apparently they're building a wall to keep out the Mexicans? Regardless of how you feel about that IRL, it's kinda weird to see it in a universe that, again, has periodic alien invasions. From a Doylistic perspective, it's probably just the show's creators have a little bit of a small AuthorTract, but how is this supposed to make sense from a Watsonian perspective?
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**** Not true. Maxwell Lord disappeared from the series after season 1. I think you mean Morgan Edge.
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** Dosage matters, just like humans and regular radiation. A certain amount of exposure is easily recoverable from, a higher dosage is dangerous, a still higher dosage is lethal. When Alex starts training Kara in that Kryptonite room, explicit mention is made of the level the emitters are working at (18%, if memory serves). But Kryptonians have something humans don't have: a solar-powered HealingFactor. Even if a very low (depowering) does of Kryptonite radiation would cause long-term damage or eventually be lethal, as soon as the Kryptonian is away from the radiation and starts soaking up Earth's solar rays again, all that damage is healed.
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*Why does Sam become human when Reign is defeated? I'm not saying she should be able to do the extra stuff that Reign can do, but isn't she still from Krypton?

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*** Not exactly. The episode revealed that the lead only has an impact on Daxamites through some kind of manipulation on the part of the device. The children were poisoned by Maxwell Lord so he could play the hero trying to get Lena locked away or murdered.

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* So, Kara's discovered a city of Kryptonians, Kryptonian culture and found her long-lost mother. She visits twice, taking Mon-El with her each time.

* Why wouldn't she think Clark wouldn't be interested?

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** And with both J'onn and Winn leaving at the end of Season 3, will new D.E.O. Director Alex follow her predecessor's plans or will this be conveniently dealt with/forgotten about before Season Four starts? [[/folder]]

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** Perhaps the DEO's weapons will simply "replace" the guns with some kind of sci-fi "stun ray" that changes nothing about the fights save for the implication that those that DEO agents shoot are just, well, immobilized instead of injured.
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* Furthermore, this theory assumes that Superman and J'onn not only know about it, but would likely use Batman as a positive example of who should have kryptonite...but if Kara is put off by someone she considers a friend having some, her opinion wouldn't be changed by being told that the strange man who dresses like a bat and has not met in person has some. If anything she'd be more pissed off, especially because it would suggest Clark lied to her about destroying it because Batman thought ''she'' might be someone he'd need to kill someday!
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** Yup. Season 3 Episode 5 deals with children getting lead poisoning.

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** The sheriff got hit in the head by a section of concrete wall before he even saw Kara and was unconscious (and probably concussed) immediately. All Kara had to do was quickly repair the wall (fast drying cement and a little heat vision) and claim she hit him in the head with a random chunk of concrete she found when she saw him pointing a gun at her sister. Viola.

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** The sheriff got hit in the head by a section of concrete wall before he even saw Kara and was unconscious (and probably concussed) immediately. All Kara had to do was quickly repair the wall (fast drying cement and a little heat vision) and claim she hit him in the head with a random chunk of concrete she found when she saw him pointing a gun at her sister. Viola.Voila.



*** No, you don't. You have to be born, in the most accepted and standard interpretation, an ''American citizen''. Assorted Birther nutcases aside, you don't have to be born in the US: John [=McCain=], for example, was born in Panama, and Ted Cruz in Canada.[[note]]Which is why the birther nonsense about where Barrack Obama was born is really dumbass. Not even they question the fact Ann Dunham is his mother, and as she was an American citizen, he was automatically an American citizen when born, regardless of where on the planet it might have been.[[/note]]

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*** No, you don't. You have to be born, in the most accepted and standard interpretation, an ''American citizen''. Assorted Birther nutcases aside, you don't have to be born in the US: John [=McCain=], for example, was born in Panama, and Ted Cruz in Canada.[[note]]Which is why the birther nonsense about where Barrack Barack Obama was born is really dumbass. Not even they question the fact Ann Dunham is his mother, and as she was an American citizen, he was automatically an American citizen when born, regardless of where on the planet it might have been.[[/note]]



* Look, I get it; this show is ''Supergirl'' and Reign is meant to be her villain. The thing is, they don't even give any HandWave as to why Clark doesn't lend a hand. It would be kind of silly if they just said he was MIA, or off in space, or hunting down an escaped Lex Luther, but it'd be better than ignoring that there's another Kryptonian on Earth who could at least attempt to stand in Reign's way.

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* Look, I get it; this show is ''Supergirl'' and Reign is meant to be her villain. The thing is, they don't even give any HandWave as to why Clark doesn't lend a hand. It would be kind of silly if they just said he was MIA, or off in space, or hunting down an escaped Lex Luther, Luthor, but it'd be better than ignoring that there's another Kryptonian on Earth who could at least attempt to stand in Reign's way.


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** He seems to have been ExiledFromContinuity, since Warner apparently wanted to just have the Henry Cavill version then.
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* Supergirl had no problem with Ollie using a Kryptonite arrow against an evil,

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* So, Kara's discovered a city of Kryptonians, Kryptonian culture and found her long-lost mother. She visits twice, taking Mon-El with her each time.

* She didn't think Clark would be interested?
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