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* What's the deal with the Smile post credits bonus scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos (or beat the game on Hard mode) and the fact that you get this bonus scene as reward is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here? What the hell are we suppose to think of this scene? It's too off putting and creepy to be funny and it doesn't answer any lingering questions or bring any sort of coherent new information to the table (like the UFO endings are random but they're clearly joke endings). It's not a jump scare since nothing jumps at you so it's not a last minute gotcha thing. So, why is it here? To confuse the audience? Is that why? The fact that you have to do extra effort to get this bizarre scene tells me that the developers either had this scene planned for a different part of the game but they changed something and didn't know what to do with it so they just threw it in here. Or its here as a fuck you from the developers, you put all that effort for this nothing scene congratulations. I keep thinking about this scene whenever I think of this game and I can't figure it out. Why is it here? What's the point? What is it?!
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* What's the deal with the Smile post credits bonus scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos (or beat the game on Hard mode) and the fact that you get this bonus scene as reward is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here? What the hell are suppose to think of this scene? It's too off putting and creepy to be funny and it doesn't answer any lingering questions or bring any sort of coherent new information to the table (like the UFO endings are random but they're joke endings). It's not a jump scare since nothing jumps at you so it's not a last minute gotcha thing. So, why is it here? To confuse the audience? Is that why? The fact that you have to do extra effort to get this bizarre scene tells me that the developers either had this scene planned for a different part of the game but they changed something and didn't know what to do with it so they just threw it in here. Or its here as a fuck you from the developers, you put all that effort for this nothing scene congratulations. I keep thinking about this scene whenever I think of this game and I can't figure it out. Why is it here? What's the point? What is it?!

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* What's the deal with the Smile post credits bonus scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos (or beat the game on Hard mode) and the fact that you get this bonus scene as reward is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here? What the hell are we suppose to think of this scene? It's too off putting and creepy to be funny and it doesn't answer any lingering questions or bring any sort of coherent new information to the table (like the UFO endings are random but they're clearly joke endings). It's not a jump scare since nothing jumps at you so it's not a last minute gotcha thing. So, why is it here? To confuse the audience? Is that why? The fact that you have to do extra effort to get this bizarre scene tells me that the developers either had this scene planned for a different part of the game but they changed something and didn't know what to do with it so they just threw it in here. Or its here as a fuck you from the developers, you put all that effort for this nothing scene congratulations. I keep thinking about this scene whenever I think of this game and I can't figure it out. Why is it here? What's the point? What is it?!


* What's the deal with the Smile post credits bonus scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos (or beat the game on Hard mode) and the fact that you get this bonus scene as reward is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here? What the hell are suppose to think of this scene? It's too off putting and creepy to be funny (like the UFO endings are random but they're joke endings) and it doesn't answer any lingering questions or bring any sort of coherent new information to the table. It's not a jump scare since nothing jumps at you so it's not a last minute gotcha thing. So, why is it here? To confuse the audience? Is that why? The fact that you have to do extra effort to get this bizarre scene tells me that the developers either had this scene planned for a different part of the game but they changed something and didn't know what to do with it so they just threw it in here. Or its here as a fuck you from the developers, you put all that effort for this nothing scene congratulations. I keep thinking about this scene whenever I think of this game and I can't figure it out. Why is it here? What's the point? What is it?!

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* What's the deal with the Smile post credits bonus scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos (or beat the game on Hard mode) and the fact that you get this bonus scene as reward is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here? What the hell are suppose to think of this scene? It's too off putting and creepy to be funny (like the UFO endings are random but they're joke endings) and it doesn't answer any lingering questions or bring any sort of coherent new information to the table.table (like the UFO endings are random but they're joke endings). It's not a jump scare since nothing jumps at you so it's not a last minute gotcha thing. So, why is it here? To confuse the audience? Is that why? The fact that you have to do extra effort to get this bizarre scene tells me that the developers either had this scene planned for a different part of the game but they changed something and didn't know what to do with it so they just threw it in here. Or its here as a fuck you from the developers, you put all that effort for this nothing scene congratulations. I keep thinking about this scene whenever I think of this game and I can't figure it out. Why is it here? What's the point? What is it?!


* What's the deal with the Smile post credits bonus scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos (or beat the game on Hard mode) and the fact that you get this bonus scene as reward is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here? What the hell are suppose to think of this scene? It's too off putting and creepy to be funny (like the UFO endings are random but they're joke endings) and it doesn't answer any lingering questions or bring any sort of coherent new information to the table. It's not a jump scare since nothing jumps at you so it's not a last minute gotcha thing. So, why is it here? To confuse the audience?
The fact that you have to do extra effort to get this bizarre scene tells me that the developers either had this scene planned for a different part of the game but they changed something and didn't know what to do with it so they just threw it in. Or its here as a fuck you from the developers, you put all that effort for this nothing scene congratulations. I keep thinking about this scene whenever I think of this game and I can't figure it out.

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* What's the deal with the Smile post credits bonus scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos (or beat the game on Hard mode) and the fact that you get this bonus scene as reward is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here? What the hell are suppose to think of this scene? It's too off putting and creepy to be funny (like the UFO endings are random but they're joke endings) and it doesn't answer any lingering questions or bring any sort of coherent new information to the table. It's not a jump scare since nothing jumps at you so it's not a last minute gotcha thing. So, why is it here? To confuse the audience?
audience? Is that why? The fact that you have to do extra effort to get this bizarre scene tells me that the developers either had this scene planned for a different part of the game but they changed something and didn't know what to do with it so they just threw it in.in here. Or its here as a fuck you from the developers, you put all that effort for this nothing scene congratulations. I keep thinking about this scene whenever I think of this game and I can't figure it out. Why is it here? What's the point? What is it?!


* What's the deal with the Smile post credits scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos and the fact that you get this bonus scene is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? And Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here?

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* What's the deal with the Smile post credits bonus scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos (or beat the game on Hard mode) and the fact that you get this bonus scene as reward is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? And Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here?here? What the hell are suppose to think of this scene? It's too off putting and creepy to be funny (like the UFO endings are random but they're joke endings) and it doesn't answer any lingering questions or bring any sort of coherent new information to the table. It's not a jump scare since nothing jumps at you so it's not a last minute gotcha thing. So, why is it here? To confuse the audience?
The fact that you have to do extra effort to get this bizarre scene tells me that the developers either had this scene planned for a different part of the game but they changed something and didn't know what to do with it so they just threw it in. Or its here as a fuck you from the developers, you put all that effort for this nothing scene congratulations. I keep thinking about this scene whenever I think of this game and I can't figure it out.


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*What's the deal with the Smile post credits scene? To get it, you have to get the good ending and collect all the photos and the fact that you get this bonus scene is confusing as hell. First off, when is it taking place? Its weird to take place after the game since Alex and Elle are seen leaving the town at the end, unless Alex decided to take a detour to his house for whatever reason. And even if you buy that, why is Josh's ghost still here? If you get the good ending you lay his spirit to rest right? And Josh was around in the first place to get Alex to admit to what he had done so why is the ghost still here?
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** I always was under the impression that the Shepherds told the other families that Josh ''had'' been sacrificed. I mean, there were no witnesses besides Alex, who was quickly shipped off to an institution, and Josh died on the water. It would have been relatively easy for them to claim that they'd drowned Josh and made it look like an accident, or that Alex had drowned Josh to save himself from being the sacrifice, or any scenario that resulted in Josh having been a valid sacrifice. Maybe they even hoped it was true; that way, there was no need to sacrifice Alex, and Josh's death at least meant something. At any rate, if they had immediately admitted to the other families that Josh had died in an accident and they were refusing to sacrifice their remaining son, do you really think the other families wouldn't have tried to find Alex and drag him back so they could force Adam to perform the sacrifice, or otherwise completely fixated on forcing the Shepherds to sacrifice someone, anyone, to appease the powers that be? Instead, they seem to have largely carried on normally for at least a few years. I'm sure they probably started to suspect someone had failed in their sacrifice once the curse appeared, but by then The Order was hunting them and it was too late.


** More than enough time? Really? He has about two minutes, if that. And I don't know about you, but I wouldn't have any idea what to jam where. The fact that he doesn't even try is a little weird, but I think he's shaken by what he's seeing, what he's being asked to do, and maybe - just maybe - there's a little part of him that doesn't really feel a huge urgency to save her, anyway. I'm not saying he wanted her to die - his reaction to her death makes that pretty clear - but Silent Hill is kind of all about examining those deep, buried parts of your psyche that are ugly - the things you wouldn't want anyone to know. I wouldn't exactly be surprised to find that, with the way he was treated, Alex maybe didn't feel 100% enthusiastic about saving his mother's life, sort of in the same vein as, in ''SilentHill2'', [[spoiler: James telling Mary he killed her because he couldn't stand to continue watching her suffer - but when he realizes he has to be completely truthful with himself, that he can't keep running and hiding from the truth anymore, he admits, "No, that's not true. [...] The truth is, I hated you. I wanted you out of the way. I wanted my life back..."]].

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** More than enough time? Really? He has about two minutes, if that. And I don't know about you, but I wouldn't have any idea what to jam where. The fact that he doesn't even try is a little weird, but I think he's shaken by what he's seeing, what he's being asked to do, and maybe - just maybe - there's a little part of him that doesn't really feel a huge urgency to save her, anyway. I'm not saying he wanted her to die - his reaction to her death makes that pretty clear - but Silent Hill is kind of all about examining those deep, buried parts of your psyche that are ugly - the things you wouldn't want anyone to know. I wouldn't exactly be surprised to find that, with the way he was treated, Alex maybe didn't feel 100% enthusiastic about saving his mother's life, sort of in the same vein as, in ''SilentHill2'', ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', [[spoiler: James telling Mary he killed her because he couldn't stand to continue watching her suffer - but when he realizes he has to be completely truthful with himself, that he can't keep running and hiding from the truth anymore, he admits, "No, that's not true. [...] The truth is, I hated you. I wanted you out of the way. I wanted my life back..."]].


** That adds another Fridge Horror onto itself that there eventually be no one else to sacrifice until each and every one is gone... Also, it could be that the families are starting to face a situation like Adam and Lillian's. They loved Alex but didn't want to show it because he was the family sacrifice, but when they lost Josh, they didn't want to lose both their children.

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** That adds another Fridge Horror onto itself that there eventually be no one else to sacrifice until each and every one is gone... Also, it ** It could be that the families are starting to face a situation like Adam and Lillian's. They loved Alex but didn't want to show it because he was the family sacrifice, but when they lost Josh, they didn't want to lose both their children. The large age gap between Alex and Josh can also be evident of them not expecting/wanting anymore kids. They treated Alex terribly for a good 8-9 years before Josh was around anyway.
** That adds another Fridge Horror onto itself that there eventually be no one else to sacrifice until each and every one is gone...

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** That adds another Fridge Horror onto itself that there eventually be no one else to sacrifice until each and every one is gone... Also, it could be that the families are starting to face a situation like Adam and Lillian's. They loved Alex but didn't want to show it because he was the family sacrifice, but when they lost Josh, they didn't want to lose both their children.

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*** What's more, Adam and Lillian may not have been expecting to have another son when they signed Alex's name on the sarcophagus in the Lair. Fitch and Bartlett had only one child each, whom they still killed. It seems that once the name is put down, it can't be undone or replaced. Adam says something to this effect in Alex's flashback in the "we chose you, not him" vein.


** I think it's the inverse, actually. They could have claimed Josh, but it was not an intentional sacrifice. A sacrifice is something WILLINGLY GIVEN. Josh bonking his head and then drowning isn't a sacrifice, it's a tragic death, and not counting towards the debt to the Gods. I believe it would be like taking roadkill and trying to pass it off as a meal.

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