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** Raidou is implied to be time traveling and in an epilogue only shown in his version of the game is suggested to have returned to the 1920s, decades before the Conception and begins making plans with Gotoh to somehow stop it from ever happening in the first place. Or as at least Gotoh will as that Raidou will probably be dead of old age by then, but the Raidou of that decade will be waiting. In that case it doesn't matter what Demi Fiend does as as far as he and Gotoh are concerned this is just a bad future they're going to prevent. As for Dante, if you believe the theory that he too is from an alternate world (and his adventure in Nocturne is where he ends up after DMC2 but before the epilogue) then it could be for a similar reason. He just shrugged helped Demi Fiend do what he wanted, then went back to his Earth to partake in the adventures of DMC 4 and 5 deciding whatever happens to an alternate world is none of his business.

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** At the time the game came out, which remember was almost two decades ago, most players came into it from Final Fantasy and other JRPGs like it where stat affecting spells are useless and the best strategy is just to hit everything has hard as you can while keeping your HP topped off. Matador buffing his speed to make him untouchable without debuffing or canceling it was something nobody was really expecting let alone knew how to handle at the beginning of this game from a series they'd probably never seen before. Remember the only SMT games in the west at this point where Persona 1, Persona 2 EP and Jack Bros none of which most players probably played and even if they did didn't quite play like a traditional SMT. Years later, Persona 3 4 and 5 made SMT game mechanics much more well known and it's a big series in the west so people probably know what to do now. In 2003 this was not the case.


* Why is destroying the universe's cycle of life and death considered a "good" thing in the True Demon Ending? Doesn't it mean that after the final war between Law and Chaos, there's nothing to return to? No way to establish a new world of anarchy like the Chaos faction wanted? Is it a ProtagonistCenteredMorality thing?

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* Why is destroying the universe's cycle of life and death considered a "good" thing in the True Demon Ending? Doesn't it mean that after the final war between Law and Chaos, there's nothing to return to? No way to establish a new world of anarchy like the Chaos faction wanted? Is it a ProtagonistCenteredMorality thing?


** ClothingDamage from awakening to all that sweet, sweet demonic power. Or a demon decided to steal them while he was asleep cause they thought it was stylish.

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** ClothingDamage from awakening to all that sweet, sweet demonic power. Or a demon decided to steal them while he was asleep cause they thought it was they were stylish.

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** ClothingDamage from awakening to all that sweet, sweet demonic power. Or a demon decided to steal them while he was asleep cause they thought it was stylish.

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* What happened to Naoki's shirt and jacket?


** ShinMegamiTensei is full of nonsense words. Go and ask someone who's good at understanding their lyrics.

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** ShinMegamiTensei ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' is full of nonsense words. Go and ask someone who's good at understanding their lyrics.



** Well, in ShinMegamiTensei, there's a guy who will buy "old world" money for Macca. So I'd say collector's value.

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** Well, in ShinMegamiTensei, ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI'', there's a guy who will buy "old world" money for Macca. So I'd say collector's value.


** For starters, he has a move called Red Capote which makes his agility/accuracy skyrocket, he can use Dekunda to nullify any buffs you put on him (such as Sukunda). And when he TurnsRed, he'll use Taunt to drastically lower your defense before following up with Andalucia -- a multi-hit attack that hits like a truck at that point in the game. Like you said, you can make it a lot easier by equipping a Null Force Magatama and recruiting some demons who are Null/Resistant to Force, but it's essentially a beginner's trap. Oh and you can't attempt to run away and prepare yourself, unlike the majority of the other Fiend battles.

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** For starters, he has a move called Red Capote which makes his agility/accuracy skyrocket, skyrocket and will recast it if his agility/accuracy is returned to normal by either speed debuffs like Sukunda or the buff cancelling spell Dekaja, he can use Dekunda to nullify any buffs attack/defense debuffs you put on him (such as Sukunda).Rakunda). And when he TurnsRed, he'll use Taunt to drastically lower your defense before following up with Andalucia -- a multi-hit attack that hits like a truck at that point in the game. Like you said, you can make it a lot easier by equipping a Null Force Magatama and recruiting some demons who are Null/Resistant to Force, but it's essentially a beginner's trap. Oh and you can't attempt to run away and prepare yourself, unlike the majority of the other Fiend battles.

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** The Demon Ending.

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** Symbolism. The fact that Lucifer's lair is a theatre is symbolic of the fact that he's holding secrets away from you, his audiance, on purpose, like in a drama.


** Well, in the DLC quest in SMT IV Apocalypse, the Demi-fiend (and the other protagonists) have all perished during a certain climactic event in their respective games, in Demi's case, he was killed by Lucifer after destroying Kagatsuchi. Stephen mentions that YHVH is directly responsible to this, killing the Messiahs before they can complete what was set for them. If this was the case, then Lucifer would inevitably fail against the final battle against the Great Will, since his entire role in Nocturne is to nurture the development of the new demon, and killing him has not only undone all that hard work, but has also come to naught as the universe is destroyed...

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** Well, in the DLC quest in SMT IV Apocalypse, the Demi-fiend (and the other protagonists) have all perished during a certain climactic event in their respective games, in Demi's case, he was killed by Lucifer after destroying Kagatsuchi. Stephen mentions that YHVH is directly responsible to this, killing the Messiahs before they can complete what was set for them. If this was the case, then Lucifer would inevitably fail against in the final battle against the Great Will, since his entire role in Nocturne is to nurture the development of the new demon, and killing him has not only undone all that hard work, but has also come to naught as the universe is destroyed...

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** Well, in the DLC quest in SMT IV Apocalypse, the Demi-fiend (and the other protagonists) have all perished during a certain climactic event in their respective games, in Demi's case, he was killed by Lucifer after destroying Kagatsuchi. Stephen mentions that YHVH is directly responsible to this, killing the Messiahs before they can complete what was set for them. If this was the case, then Lucifer would inevitably fail against the final battle against the Great Will, since his entire role in Nocturne is to nurture the development of the new demon, and killing him has not only undone all that hard work, but has also come to naught as the universe is destroyed...
* So the whole purpose of the Vortex World is for the surviving humans to collect Magatsuchi and construct a reason for a new world to be born. What would happen if all the humans in that Vortex World died?

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* What is Lucifer's plan if you die during your battle with him in TDE? Kagutsuchi is gone, not just for this world but for ALL worlds - which are implied to be utterly destroyed as well. Which means that you're the last human in existence - the last possible candidate to be his right hand in the upcoming battle. What's his fallback plan if you die?

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** Probably a similar way to how Hikawa found out - ancient cryptic texts, sources in various apocalyptic cults and secret societies, and perhaps a certain amount of premonition/instinct given that he's been through this shit an untold number of times.

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