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** Yes. Yes it does.

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** Yes. Yes it does.
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** Man the Romanians must be so proud of their representation in this anime.
** Does that have anything to do with her [[EuropeansAreKinky behaviour]] around Mika?
*** No, she's kinky around Mika because that's just her
**** Not that the trope is wrong, Crowley's comrades are pretty kinky and they're implied to be British
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** Chapter 69 reveals that she was the daughter of a noble family and more



* Do you guys think [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yoichi]] will kill Lacus? In [[Spoiler: Chapters 50-60 he confessed to his demon Gekkoin that he actually has a dark side and he's secretly very violent, wants to punish Lacus so badly that Lacus will regret being born.But the thing is, I don't want Lacus to die. In fact, I think he's one of the best characters of the show. Think of it. One of the reasons Lacus appeals to me so much is that, you see, vampires are supposed to be 'OMG we have no emotions/loved ones, romance and friendship is for suckas'. But [[spoiler: Lacus isn't like that. Even though he doesn't look it, he's actually friendly, kind and caring. Even though Mika brushes him off, he still tries to be kind to him and tries to be his friend. And this is what strikes me - Lacus, a vampire who sees humans as mere livestock - has no qualms and is even open and encouraging to be friends with Mika. Every time I see Mika ignore him or brush him off, it kinda hurts me because Lacus just wants to be friends.]] You can do so many interesting things with this character. Look at the potential you have here. So far, the only vampires that we've seen that have loved ones are Mika, Krul and mayyyyybe Crowley, but Lacus has one too, even though he's not as important as them. Vampires caring for each other is really rare, and it's interesting seeing one actually caring.Lacus shows concern for Mika even though he doesn't return his feelings. He even asks if Krul was the one who [[AccidentalInnuedo turned him]]. You can chalk it up to him wanting to climb the popularity ladder, but I don't think that's the case. And, unlike Ferid and Crowley, he's not doing it for the sake of entertainment. He actually does seem like a genuinely NiceGuy. Proof? He was Renè's first friend. Stoic, aloof, cold, formal Renè's first and best friend. I know when a human turns into a vampire they lose their emotions and blablabla, but Lacus looks like he still has that social, friendly, bubbly charm in him. My point is, Lacus is a good character and shouldn't be killed off. In fact, I think he's actually even nicer than Yoichi. If Yoichi kills him off, I'm going to hate Yoichi. Lacus is pretty interesting, and I can't wait for Kagami to give us an insight if his life and backstory, and why he's like that.

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* Do you guys think [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yoichi]] will kill Lacus? In [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: Chapters 50-60 he confessed to his demon Gekkoin that he actually has a dark side and he's secretly very violent, wants to punish Lacus so badly that Lacus will regret being born.But the thing is, I don't want Lacus to die. In fact, I think he's one of the best characters of the show. Think of it. One of the reasons Lacus appeals to me so much is that, you see, vampires are supposed to be 'OMG we have no emotions/loved ones, romance and friendship is for suckas'. But [[spoiler: Lacus isn't like that. Even though he doesn't look it, he's actually friendly, kind and caring. Even though Mika brushes him off, he still tries to be kind to him and tries to be his friend. And this is what strikes me - Lacus, a vampire who sees humans as mere livestock - has no qualms and is even open and encouraging to be friends with Mika. Every time I see Mika ignore him or brush him off, it kinda hurts me because Lacus just wants to be friends.]] You can do so many interesting things with this character. Look at the potential you have here. So far, the only vampires that we've seen that have loved ones are Mika, Krul and mayyyyybe Crowley, but Lacus has one too, even though he's not as important as them. Vampires caring for each other is really rare, and it's interesting seeing one actually caring.Lacus shows concern for Mika even though he doesn't return his feelings. He even asks if Krul was the one who [[AccidentalInnuedo turned him]]. You can chalk it up to him wanting to climb the popularity ladder, but I don't think that's the case. And, unlike Ferid and Crowley, he's not doing it for the sake of entertainment. He actually does seem like a genuinely NiceGuy. Proof? He was Renè's first friend. Stoic, aloof, cold, formal Renè's first and best friend. I know when a human turns into a vampire they lose their emotions and blablabla, but Lacus looks like he still has that social, friendly, bubbly charm in him. My point is, Lacus is a good character and shouldn't be killed off. In fact, I think he's actually even nicer than Yoichi. If Yoichi kills him off, I'm going to hate Yoichi. Lacus is pretty interesting, and I can't wait for Kagami to give us an insight if his life and backstory, and why he's like that.



*** Mika and Krul are CHILDREN. Vampires, but still children. So marriage seems kind of....



** [[MemeticMutation Family]]

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* Krul's last name is Tepes. In [[spoiler: Chapter 69, it's revealed she's from a noble family. She was apparently being punished for something her ancestors did. Who else has the last name Tepes? [[UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler Vlad Tepes]]. Vlad is Romanian, so does that make Krul Romanian?]]
** Yes. Yes it does.
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* Why did [[Spoiler: The First Progenitor go to JAPAN, of all countries]]? He could have chosen another one, like Britain (the country that took over the entire frickin' world) or France/Germany (efficient armies) or somewhere else, but what made Japan so special?

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* Why did [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: The First Progenitor go to JAPAN, of all countries]]? He could have chosen another one, like Britain (the country that took over the entire frickin' world) or France/Germany (efficient armies) or somewhere else, but what made Japan so special?


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* In his vampire life, he was called Sika Madu. How was he as a human?
** Was he ever a human?
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* Saito reveals that [[spoiler: the mom from Yuichiro's flashback isn't his real mom, but Yu doesn't know that]]. So who are his real parents?
** There is a very, VERY strong possibility [[spoiler: Yu and Mika have the same mom. According to the manga, Mika has Seraph powers due to the experiments performed on his mother. And since Yu's family has no history of Seraph gene holders....]]
** [[spoiler: Yu, Shiho and Yoichi could have the same mom as well...]]
** [[MemeticMutation Family]]
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* I googled "arukanu" and got nothing but the bat. It's probably something Takaya Kagami invented on the spot.

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* ** I googled "arukanu" and got nothing but the bat. It's probably something Takaya Kagami invented on the spot.



To troll us more he says that Lacis dreams of opening a garlic bakery known as Garlic Lacus because he secretly loves garlic rusk. WTF.

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* Can vampires have sex? I know they can't make babies but they can at least have sex right?
** I read a theory of Mika and Krul having sex and that's why Ferid does what he does to her in the S2 finale...
** Probably yeah. I mean, they could stick the junk together so why not
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*** He has a German last name (Welt means world in German). Lest Kerr is the Progenitor of Germany. So maybe he has a special connection with Lest Kerr? [[FrigeBrilliance Maybe Lest was the one who turned him and Renè?]]

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*** He has a German last name (Welt means world in German). Lest Kerr is the Progenitor of Germany. So maybe he has a special connection with Lest Kerr? [[FrigeBrilliance [[FridgeBrilliance Maybe Lest was the one who turned him and Renè?]]
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* Let's look at the name. Is Arukanu a name typically given to males or females?
* I googled "arukanu" and got nothing but the bat. It's probably something Takaya Kagami invented on the spot.

* Does Arukanu even have a gender? He could be non-cis for all we know
** Now THIS I can agree with...
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** Male bats have penises, though they're hidden under the hair
*** We haven't ever seen a penis or Arukanu so far so I'd have to say female
*** We've never seen a penis on Arukanu.....because we've never had a shot of him from the back
*** How does a bat penis look like?
**** Like a normal penis, how else would it look like
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** Alternatively he could be a kwami from ''WesternAnimation/Miraculous Ladybug'', and he grants the user bat themed powers. That explains why he (she? It?) sticks to Krul like a magnet

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** Alternatively he could be a kwami from ''WesternAnimation/Miraculous Ladybug'', ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'', and he grants the user bat themed powers. That explains why he (she? It?) sticks to Krul like a magnet


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* Is Arukanu a boy or a girl?
** [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Franchise/Pokemon Hee hee, "are you a boy or a girl?"]]
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** Alternatively he could be a kwami from ''Western Animation/Miraculous Ladybug'', and he grants the user bat themed powers. That explains why he (she? It?) sticks to Krul like a magnet

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** Alternatively he could be a kwami from ''Western Animation/Miraculous ''WesternAnimation/Miraculous Ladybug'', and he grants the user bat themed powers. That explains why he (she? It?) sticks to Krul like a magnet



* It's actually a case of TruthinTelevision. You'd be amazed on how people with lots of political power can get away with whatever they want.

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* ** It's actually a case of TruthinTelevision. You'd be amazed on how people with lots of political power can get away with whatever they want.want.



** No. Just because she kissed him that doesn't make him their king. That's like saying Meghan Markle is the princess of England just because she's seeing Prince Harry. There has to be an engagement, amarriage ceremony

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** No. Just because she kissed him that doesn't make him their king. That's like saying Meghan Markle is the princess of England just because she's seeing Prince Harry. There has to be an engagement, amarriage ceremony a marriage ceremony
** I'd have to argue with that. Yes, Harry and Meghan have to get married, but that's because they're HUMAN, and marriage is a human tradition. Vampires, on the other hand, are stated to be asexual. They have no such need for such things. But Krul and Mika's relationship should elevate Mika to some sort of social status, like "The Vamp Queen's Hot Horny Boyfriend' or something......
** He has a special rank on the vampires from being sired from a progenitor as he has a First class weapon. So there you go.
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** Krul could have ordered them to swear secrecy for all we know. Or maybe killed all the witnesses.
** Good point, but won't vampires still know? I mean there has to be some way for that information to get out, right?
* It's actually a case of TruthinTelevision. You'd be amazed on how people with lots of political power can get away with whatever they want.
* So if Krul, the Queen of all vampires kissed Mika, does that make him the King of all vampires?
** No. Just because she kissed him that doesn't make him their king. That's like saying Meghan Markle is the princess of England just because she's seeing Prince Harry. There has to be an engagement, amarriage ceremony


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* So how did Lacus hear those rumours about Mika being turned by Krul?
** The vampires have a [[Film/MeanGirls Burn Book]]?
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* So here's one thing I don't understand. According to the manga, the vampires have no idea of Mika's past and suspect Krul of the one turning him. But how? When Krul kissed Mika, she LITERALLY SNOGGED HIM IN FRONT OF [[http://owarinoseraph.wikia.com/wiki/File:Krul_arrives.png THE]] [[http://owarinoseraph.wikia.com/wiki/File:Krul_owns_Mika.png ENTIRE]] [[http://owarinoseraph.wikia.com/wiki/File:Vampire_Kiss.png CASTLE]] so how could they have no idea? Made even more egregious about the fact that when Mika feeds on Krul for the first time, two vampire guards bring a corpse for him to feed off first. What?
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* Is it possible for them to die? Like just....poof?
** I have no idea how. Maybe they turn into ashes like vampires? But if so...how?
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* How did Ferid know Crowley had a Seraph gene?


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* How did Ferid know Crowley had a Seraph gene? Crowley never said/made referenceto it before, I doubt he even knew about Seraphim and Michaela before that
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*** Shinoa's case is different. [[Spoiler: She was abused by her dad and Kureto, Kureto tried to get her raped, what Mahiru did to protect her, she was born with demons inside her, had to suffer nightmares and all etc. etc. etc., remember?]] Shinoa has a backstory that certainly makes her motives more than understandable, but Mitsuba gets nothing. No sympathetic backstory or anything. She just acts like a spoiled dick for no reason. Also she got a whole squad murdered, how come she isn't kicked out yet?

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*** Shinoa's case is different. [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: She was abused by her dad and Kureto, Kureto tried to get her raped, what Mahiru did to protect her, she was born with demons inside her, had to suffer nightmares and all etc. etc. etc., remember?]] Shinoa has a backstory that certainly makes her motives more than understandable, but Mitsuba gets nothing. No sympathetic backstory or anything. She just acts like a spoiled dick for no reason. Also she got a whole squad murdered, how come she isn't kicked out yet?
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** It's not a DoubleStandard. Clearly anyone who has read the Light Novels can tell you that. Guren had past screwups with the Hiragis and Aoi didn't. Simple as that.

* Once the Hiragis take over the world, what are they going to do next?
** Why do they want to take over the world anyway? I mean...I get it sounds cool and all but really, isn't being the richest family in Japan enough?



* Is Lacus German? He has a German last name (Welt means 'world' in German)

* Rene could possibly be French, based on his name.
** Lol, Rene Descartes



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* So who were Ferid's family? Parents? Siblings?
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* Once the Hiragis take over the world, what are they going to do next?
** Why do they want to take over the world anyway? I mean...I get it sounds cool and all but really, isn't being the richest family in Japan enough?

* Is Lacus German? He has a German last name (Welt means 'world' in German)

* Rene could possibly be French, based on his name.
** Lol, Rene Descartes
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* So Ferid was killing, Crowley was suffering and people were dying. One question: Where was Krul in all lf this? Did she just turn a blind eye to the human's suffering? Or did she just not care?
* Did she even know Crowley was suffering?
* Question. So if Crowley told Krul his backstory and all.....would Krul take him in? Would she accept him? Maybe they could make friendship bracelets over murdering Ferid
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* What if a human is possessed by a demon (like Yu/Ashera) but then turns into a vampire? What happens to the demon?

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* How is Mitsuba not dead yet? I mean she's the most useless character in the Shinoa Squad. Yuu has a Progenitor's brother in a sword, Shinoa has Shikama Doji, Yoichi has Gekkoin, a guy with a six pack and Shiho has Kiseki-o who has burial ground powers, yet Tenjiryu....what's so special about him? He seems pretty normal, and has the weakest power of the main 5 (6?)
** We've seen it generate flames, so that's something....
*** Not much compared to the other demons

* Why did Mitsuba join the army, let alone the Shinoa Squad? She's the most useless and has no motive. Think about it....

Yu - Revenge for muh family
Shinoa - As the daughter of the Hiragis, she wanted to prove herself powerful
Shiho - His sister
Yoichi - Also his sister
Mitsuba - annoying typical anime tsundere with no distinctive qualities or characteristics, nothing interesting about her, slapped a boy for saving a kid, threw an unnecessary tantrum in S2E1 (who throws a tantrum over a PROMOTION) only exists for the Shinoa/Mitsuba/Yu love triangle and a fellow girl for Shinoa, nothing good about her
** She felt overshadowed by her big sister and wanted to prove herself like Shinoa
*** Shinoa's case is different. [[Spoiler: She was abused by her dad and Kureto, Kureto tried to get her raped, what Mahiru did to protect her, she was born with demons inside her, had to suffer nightmares and all etc. etc. etc., remember?]] Shinoa has a backstory that certainly makes her motives more than understandable, but Mitsuba gets nothing. No sympathetic backstory or anything. She just acts like a spoiled dick for no reason. Also she got a whole squad murdered, how come she isn't kicked out yet?
*** Because she's from the Sangu family? Or maybe they let her go because it was an accident?
*** [[FridgeBrilliance Or maybe they were hoping they could kill her off as well?]]
** She's also a liability, Yuu had to save her ass as well. And she never says thanks or anything. Is it any wonder she's TheScrappy?




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* How is Mitsuba not dead yet? I mean she's the most useless character in the Shinoa Squad. Yuu has a Progenitor's brother in a sword, Shinoa has Shikama Doji, Yoichi has Gekkoin, a guy with a six pack and Shiho has Kiseki-o who has burial ground powers, yet Tenjiryu....what's so special about him? He seems pretty normal, and has the weakest power of the main 5 (6?)
** We've seen it generate flames, so that's something....
*** Not much compared to the other demons

* Why did Mitsuba join the army, let alone the Shinoa Squad? She's the most useless and has no motive. Think about it....

Yu - Revenge for muh family
Shinoa - As the daughter of the Hiragis, she wanted to prove herself powerful
Shiho - His sister
Yoichi - Also his sister
Mitsuba - annoying typical anime tsundere with no distinctive qualities or characteristics, nothing interesting about her, slapped a boy for saving a kid, threw an unnecessary tantrum in S2E1 (who throws a tantrum over a PROMOTION) only exists for the Shinoa/Mitsuba/Yu love triangle and a fellow girl for Shinoa, nothing good about her
** She felt overshadowed by her big sister and wanted to prove herself like Shinoa
*** Shinoa's case is different. [[Spoiler: She was abused by her dad and Kureto, Kureto tried to get her raped, what Mahiru did to protect her, she was born with demons inside her, had to suffer nightmares and all etc. etc. etc., remember?]] Shinoa has a backstory that certainly makes her motives more than understandable, but Mitsuba gets nothing. No sympathetic backstory or anything. She just acts like a spoiled dick for no reason. Also she got a whole squad murdered, how come she isn't kicked out yet?
*** Because she's from the Sangu family? Or maybe they let her go because it was an accident?
*** [[FridgeBrilliance Or maybe they were hoping they could kill her off as well?]]
** She's also a liability, Yuu had to save her ass as well. And she never says thanks or anything. Is it any wonder she's TheScrappy?

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\n* How is Mitsuba not dead yet? I mean she's the most useless character in the Shinoa Squad. Yuu has a Progenitor's brother in a sword, Shinoa has Shikama Doji, Yoichi has Gekkoin, a guy with a six pack and Shiho has Kiseki-o who has burial ground powers, yet Tenjiryu....what's so special about him? He seems pretty normal, and has the weakest power of the main 5 (6?)\n** We've seen it generate flames, so that's something....\n*** Not much compared to the other demons\n\n* Why did Mitsuba join the army, let alone the Shinoa Squad? She's the most useless and has no motive. Think about it....\n\nYu - Revenge for muh family\nShinoa - As the daughter of the Hiragis, she wanted to prove herself powerful\nShiho - His sister \nYoichi - Also his sister \nMitsuba - annoying typical anime tsundere with no distinctive qualities or characteristics, nothing interesting about her, slapped a boy for saving a kid, threw an unnecessary tantrum in S2E1 (who throws a tantrum over a PROMOTION) only exists for the Shinoa/Mitsuba/Yu love triangle and a fellow girl for Shinoa, nothing good about her\n** She felt overshadowed by her big sister and wanted to prove herself like Shinoa\n*** Shinoa's case is different. [[Spoiler: She was abused by her dad and Kureto, Kureto tried to get her raped, what Mahiru did to protect her, she was born with demons inside her, had to suffer nightmares and all etc. etc. etc., remember?]] Shinoa has a backstory that certainly makes her motives more than understandable, but Mitsuba gets nothing. No sympathetic backstory or anything. She just acts like a spoiled dick for no reason. Also she got a whole squad murdered, how come she isn't kicked out yet?\n*** Because she's from the Sangu family? Or maybe they let her go because it was an accident?\n*** [[FridgeBrilliance Or maybe they were hoping they could kill her off as well?]]\n** She's also a liability, Yuu had to save her ass as well. And she never says thanks or anything. Is it any wonder she's TheScrappy? \n[[/folder]]

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* Does anyone else find Mitsuba's FreudianExcuse pathetic? Not that it's not sad, it is tragic losing all your comrades but I hate how she slapped Yuu for saving a kid and acted like a bitch to him for that
** I agree. She should be kicked out of the Shinoa Squad and be replaced by someone who isn't a bitch




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* Does anyone else find Mitsuba's FreudianExcuse pathetic? Not that it's not sad, it is tragic losing all your comrades but I hate how she slapped Yuu for saving a kid and acted like a bitch to him for that
** I agree. She should be kicked out of the Shinoa Squad and be replaced by someone who isn't a bitch
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* Do you guys think [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yoichi]] will kill Lacus? In [[Spoiler: Chapters 50-60 he confessed to his demon Gekkoin that he actually has a dark side and he's secretly very violent, wants to punish Lacus so badly that Lacus will regret being born]].

But the thing is, I don't want [[Spoiler: Lacus]] to die. In fact, I think he's one of the best characters of the show.

Think of it. One of the reasons Lacus appeals to me so much is that, you see, vampires are supposed to be 'OMG we have no emotions/loved ones, romance and friendship is for suckas'. But [[spoiler: Lacus isn't like that. Even though he doesn't look it, he's actually friendly, kind and caring. Even though Mika brushes him off, he still tries to be kind to him and tries to be his friend. And this is what strikes me - Lacus, a vampire who sees humans as mere livestock - has no qualms and is even open and encouraging to be friends with Mika. Every time I see Mika ignore him or brush him off, it kinda hurts me because Lacus just wants to be friends.]]

You can do so many interesting things with this character. Look at the potential you have here.

Look. So far, the only vampires that we've seen that have loved ones are Mika, Krul and mayyyyybe Crowley, but Lacus has one too, even though he's not as important as them. Vampires caring for each other is really rare, and it's interesting seeing one actually caring.

[[Spoiler: Lacus]] shows concern for Mika even though he doesn't return his feelings. He even asks if Krul was the one who [[AccidentalInnuedo turned him]]. You can chalk it up to him wanting to climb the popularity ladder, but I don't think that's the case.

And, unlike Ferid and Crowley, he's not doing it for the sake of entertainment. He actually does seem like a genuinely NiceGuy. Proof? He was Renè's first friend. Stoic, aloof, cold, formal Renè's first and best friend. I know when a human turns into a vampire they lose their emotions and blablabla, but Lacus looks like he still has that social, friendly, bubbly charm in him.

My point is, Lacus is a good character and shouldn't be killed off. In fact, I think he's actually even nicer than Yoichi. If Yoichi kills him off, I'm going to hate Yoichi. Lacus is pretty interesting, and I can't wait for Kagami to give us an insight if his life and backstory, and why he's like that.

** I love Lacus! I ship him and Renè (remember that scene where they showered and changed together), and yes, killing him off would ruin a lot for the show. Lacus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yoichi. I can't wait for his backstory to, the grape boi deserves more love!

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* Do you guys think [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yoichi]] will kill Lacus? In [[Spoiler: Chapters 50-60 he confessed to his demon Gekkoin that he actually has a dark side and he's secretly very violent, wants to punish Lacus so badly that Lacus will regret being born]].

born.But the thing is, I don't want [[Spoiler: Lacus]] Lacus to die. In fact, I think he's one of the best characters of the show.

show. Think of it. One of the reasons Lacus appeals to me so much is that, you see, vampires are supposed to be 'OMG we have no emotions/loved ones, romance and friendship is for suckas'. But [[spoiler: Lacus isn't like that. Even though he doesn't look it, he's actually friendly, kind and caring. Even though Mika brushes him off, he still tries to be kind to him and tries to be his friend. And this is what strikes me - Lacus, a vampire who sees humans as mere livestock - has no qualms and is even open and encouraging to be friends with Mika. Every time I see Mika ignore him or brush him off, it kinda hurts me because Lacus just wants to be friends.]]

]] You can do so many interesting things with this character. Look at the potential you have here. \n\nLook. So far, the only vampires that we've seen that have loved ones are Mika, Krul and mayyyyybe Crowley, but Lacus has one too, even though he's not as important as them. Vampires caring for each other is really rare, and it's interesting seeing one actually caring.

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caring.Lacus shows concern for Mika even though he doesn't return his feelings. He even asks if Krul was the one who [[AccidentalInnuedo turned him]]. You can chalk it up to him wanting to climb the popularity ladder, but I don't think that's the case.

case. And, unlike Ferid and Crowley, he's not doing it for the sake of entertainment. He actually does seem like a genuinely NiceGuy. Proof? He was Renè's first friend. Stoic, aloof, cold, formal Renè's first and best friend. I know when a human turns into a vampire they lose their emotions and blablabla, but Lacus looks like he still has that social, friendly, bubbly charm in him.

him. My point is, Lacus is a good character and shouldn't be killed off. In fact, I think he's actually even nicer than Yoichi. If Yoichi kills him off, I'm going to hate Yoichi. Lacus is pretty interesting, and I can't wait for Kagami to give us an insight if his life and backstory, and why he's like that.

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I love Lacus! I ship him and Renè (remember that scene where they showered and changed together), and yes, killing him off would ruin a lot for the show. Lacus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yoichi. I can't wait for his backstory to, the grape boi deserves more love!
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Do you guys think [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yoichi]] will kill Lacus? In [[Spoiler: Chapters 50-60 he confessed to his demon Gekkoin that he actually has a dark side and he's secretly very violent, wants to punish Lacus so badly that Lacus will regret being born]].

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* Do you guys think [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yoichi]] will kill Lacus? In [[Spoiler: Chapters 50-60 he confessed to his demon Gekkoin that he actually has a dark side and he's secretly very violent, wants to punish Lacus so badly that Lacus will regret being born]].



And, unlike Ferid and Crowley, he's not doing it for the sake of entertainment. He actually does seem like a genuinely NiceGuy. Proof? He was Renè's first friend. Stoic, aloof, cold, formal Renè's first and best friend. I know when a human turns into a vampire they lose their emotions and blablabla, but Lacus looks like he still has that social, friendly, bubbly charm in him.

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And, unlike Ferid and Crowley, he's not doing it for the sake of entertainment. He actually does seem like a genuinely NiceGuy. Proof? He was Renè's first friend. Stoic, aloof, cold, formal Renè's first and best friend. I know when a human turns into a vampire they lose their emotions and blablabla, but Lacus looks like he still has that social, friendly, bubbly charm in him.



** I love Lacus! I ship him and Renè (remember that scene where they showered and changed together), and yes, killing him off would ruin a lot for the show. Lacus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yoichi. I can't wait for his backstory to, the grape boi deserves more love!

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** I love Lacus! I ship him and Renè (remember that scene where they showered and changed together), and yes, killing him off would ruin a lot for the show. Lacus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yoichi. I can't wait for his backstory to, the grape boi deserves more love!



*** He has a German last name (Welt means world in German). Lest Kerr is the Progenitor of Germany. So maybe he has a special connection with Lest Kerr? [[FrigeBrilliance Maybe Lest was the one who turned him and Renè?]]
*** Oh my God, it makes perfect sense!! Also, Renè Simm - that's a French name. France is next to Germany (see mom, I've been paying attention in Geography class, whatever my report card may tell you SO THERE). So what if Rene was born and raised in France, then he went to Germany and met Lacus, then got turned into a vampire by Lest.
*** You mean [[GratitousGerman Mein Gott]], it makes so much sense
** Lacus does have a striking resemblance to Ferid when you think about it (Bishonen, LongHairedPrettyBoy, CheshireCatGrin, DudeLooksLikeALady, HairDecorations, SoftSpokenSadist, WouldHurtAChild) so maybe he is related to Ferid in some way, like a nephew or a descendant, so Ferid sired him and sired Renè because he was Lacus' best friend and Lacus didn't want to leave him behind?

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*** He has a German last name (Welt means world in German). Lest Kerr is the Progenitor of Germany. So maybe he has a special connection with Lest Kerr? [[FrigeBrilliance Maybe Lest was the one who turned him and Renè?]]
*** **** Oh my God, it makes perfect sense!! Also, Renè Simm - that's a French name. France is next to Germany (see mom, I've been paying attention in Geography class, whatever my report card may tell you SO THERE). So what if Rene was born and raised in France, then he went to Germany and met Lacus, then got turned into a vampire by Lest.
*** ***** You mean [[GratitousGerman Mein Gott]], it makes so much sense
** Lacus does have a striking resemblance to Ferid when you think about it (Bishonen, LongHairedPrettyBoy, CheshireCatGrin, DudeLooksLikeALady, HairDecorations, SoftSpokenSadist, WouldHurtAChild) so maybe he is related to Ferid in some way, like a nephew or a descendant, so Ferid sired him and sired Renè because he was Lacus' best friend and Lacus didn't want to leave him behind?



*** And why Mika is assigned with Lacus and Renè - Ferid wants his nephew to be friends with Mika
*** It's also notable Ferid and Lacus are foils to each other - they are both PerpetualSmiler LongHairedPrettyBoy s, they both are sadistic in combat and both have beef with certain members of the Shinoa Squad, but while Lacus is more open, friendly and genuinely cares about his friends , Ferid is deceptive and would happily kill them off for his entertainment. Crowley and Renè can be considered foils as they're both the least Bishonen of the vampires, extremely powerful for their rank, are best friends with a LongHairedPrettyBoy and care about glory in battle.

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*** And why Mika is assigned with Lacus and Renè - Ferid wants his nephew to be friends with Mika
*** It's also notable Ferid and Lacus are foils to each other - they are both PerpetualSmiler LongHairedPrettyBoy s, they both are sadistic in combat and both have beef with certain members of the Shinoa Squad, but while Lacus is more open, friendly and genuinely cares about his friends , Ferid is deceptive and would happily kill them off for his entertainment. Crowley and Renè can be considered foils as they're both the least Bishonen of the vampires, extremely powerful for their rank, are best friends with a LongHairedPrettyBoy and care about glory in battle.



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Do you guys think [[BitchInSheepsClothing Yoichi]] will kill Lacus? In [[Spoiler: Chapters 50-60 he confessed to his demon Gekkoin that he actually has a dark side and he's secretly very violent, wants to punish Lacus so badly that Lacus will regret being born]].

But the thing is, I don't want [[Spoiler: Lacus]] to die. In fact, I think he's one of the best characters of the show.

Think of it. One of the reasons Lacus appeals to me so much is that, you see, vampires are supposed to be 'OMG we have no emotions/loved ones, romance and friendship is for suckas'. But [[spoiler: Lacus isn't like that. Even though he doesn't look it, he's actually friendly, kind and caring. Even though Mika brushes him off, he still tries to be kind to him and tries to be his friend. And this is what strikes me - Lacus, a vampire who sees humans as mere livestock - has no qualms and is even open and encouraging to be friends with Mika. Every time I see Mika ignore him or brush him off, it kinda hurts me because Lacus just wants to be friends.]]

You can do so many interesting things with this character. Look at the potential you have here.

Look. So far, the only vampires that we've seen that have loved ones are Mika, Krul and mayyyyybe Crowley, but Lacus has one too, even though he's not as important as them. Vampires caring for each other is really rare, and it's interesting seeing one actually caring.

[[Spoiler: Lacus]] shows concern for Mika even though he doesn't return his feelings. He even asks if Krul was the one who [[AccidentalInnuedo turned him]]. You can chalk it up to him wanting to climb the popularity ladder, but I don't think that's the case.

And, unlike Ferid and Crowley, he's not doing it for the sake of entertainment. He actually does seem like a genuinely NiceGuy. Proof? He was Renè's first friend. Stoic, aloof, cold, formal Renè's first and best friend. I know when a human turns into a vampire they lose their emotions and blablabla, but Lacus looks like he still has that social, friendly, bubbly charm in him.

My point is, Lacus is a good character and shouldn't be killed off. In fact, I think he's actually even nicer than Yoichi. If Yoichi kills him off, I'm going to hate Yoichi. Lacus is pretty interesting, and I can't wait for Kagami to give us an insight if his life and backstory, and why he's like that.

** I love Lacus! I ship him and Renè (remember that scene where they showered and changed together), and yes, killing him off would ruin a lot for the show. Lacus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yoichi. I can't wait for his backstory to, the grape boi deserves more love!
** "Grape boi" - that is such an affectionate nickname awww. I have the Volume 5 Bonus Material, and it says that "while Lacus is not nobility, he has considerable power. He was the vampire who killed Yoichi's sister. As for the rest, well...much of the vampire side of things is a mystery. Though, given that there has been foreshadowing for this, I might be able to say why Lacus is- Naaah, I think I'll keep it a secret". (My God Kagami you f***ing troll, just at least give us a hint or something).

To troll us more he says that Lacis dreams of opening a garlic bakery known as Garlic Lacus because he secretly loves garlic rusk. WTF.

One of the other things I like about Lacus is that apart from being the PerpetualSmiler of the trio, he's also the one with a sense of humour. When Mika is beating up Aiko, he's laughing his pants off (BlackComedy, I know, but that's just how I prefer my comedy) and laughs a lot in general.
** You're so lucky....Can you tell me more about it? I've always wanted that material but couldn't find it
** Sure :). Many things included, like
*** Rene is exceptionally powerful for a vampire even though he's not a progenitor
*** Lacus and Rene won't get to do much until Volume 7 (though volume 7 has already been released and no, they don't do much)
*** Takaya's always planned to do the write up with them when Yoichi's on the cover
Sorry if it's not enough, I can add more if you want.
** No, that's okay, thank you :*!

* What's the thing he was 'foreshadowing' about Lacus?
** well, he has purple hair......so maybe he's related to the Hiragis?
*** No, this Troper doubts it, Lacus is Caucasian (German?) And the Hiragis are Japanese.
*** He has a German last name (Welt means world in German). Lest Kerr is the Progenitor of Germany. So maybe he has a special connection with Lest Kerr? [[FrigeBrilliance Maybe Lest was the one who turned him and Renè?]]
**** Oh my God, it makes perfect sense!! Also, Renè Simm - that's a French name. France is next to Germany (see mom, I've been paying attention in Geography class, whatever my report card may tell you SO THERE). So what if Rene was born and raised in France, then he went to Germany and met Lacus, then got turned into a vampire by Lest.
***** You mean [[GratitousGerman Mein Gott]], it makes so much sense
** Lacus does have a striking resemblance to Ferid when you think about it (Bishonen, LongHairedPrettyBoy, CheshireCatGrin, DudeLooksLikeALady, HairDecorations, SoftSpokenSadist, WouldHurtAChild) so maybe he is related to Ferid in some way, like a nephew or a descendant, so Ferid sired him and sired Renè because he was Lacus' best friend and Lacus didn't want to leave him behind?
*** That also explains how Lacus is a guard (a fancy ass position in vampire society) - Ferid ensured his nephew/relative sticks close by
*** And why Mika is assigned with Lacus and Renè - Ferid wants his nephew to be friends with Mika
*** It's also notable Ferid and Lacus are foils to each other - they are both PerpetualSmiler LongHairedPrettyBoy s, they both are sadistic in combat and both have beef with certain members of the Shinoa Squad, but while Lacus is more open, friendly and genuinely cares about his friends , Ferid is deceptive and would happily kill them off for his entertainment. Crowley and Renè can be considered foils as they're both the least Bishonen of the vampires, extremely powerful for their rank, are best friends with a LongHairedPrettyBoy and care about glory in battle.
*** I LOVE the "Lacus is related to Ferid" theory, but you know a more interesting twist? What if they DON'T know they're related but find out somehow in front of all the vampires, then they'll all be 'OMG THAT'S THE PROGENITOR'S NEPHEW!' And maybe if Ferid dies or something, he'll ask his nephew Lacus to carry on his work should he grow bored from existing
** Maybe the foreshadowing is, given Lacus' status as a PerpetualSmiler (boy that's come up a lot today huh) with a wicked sense of humour, he's secretly a StepfordSmiler? Something to do with his siblings (why else would Takaya Kagami mention that little detail?)
*** And he clings on to Renè because he's his only friend who understands him?
*** I have a feeling MyGreatestFailure may be involved here...

* OMG! The fanbook just said that Lacus has younger and older siblings!
** What? Really? Who are they?
** It didn't name them....
** What do you think they'll be called then?
** Following the naming pattern, maybe if they're brothers they'll be Luka/Lucas/Leo, maybe if they're sisters they'll be Lucy/Lucia/Lucielle/Louise?
** And following the fan nicknaming pattern, since Lacus is 'grape boi' (that name was coined by a Tumblr user called yourfriendlyneighbourhoodgrape, who's a big Lacus fan and draws a lot of Lacus fanart), his siblings would be Eggplant boi, BlackBerry gurl, Raspberry boi, Raisin gurl...
** Shouldn't they be in Latin?
** ^ Eggplantus Boius, Blackberrius gurlus, Raspberrious Boius, Raisinus Gurlus, there are are you happy now

* Am I the only one who doesn't see MikaYuu? I am LGBT but I don't think Mika and Yu see each other romantically. My other gay friends aren't like Mika or Yu either. I think it's more of a brotherly relationship (they have the same last name ffs) and the show pushes the word family around a lot, I mean they make it obvious they think of each other as brothers and nothing more.
** I don't think Mika and Yu were intended to resonate with gay audiences at all. It's a Shounen anime series, not Yaoi, so I doubt MikaYuu will ever get canon
** I hate it when people say MikaYuu is a realistic depiction of a gay couple because....it's not. I am LGBT like you, yet I cannot relate to them at all, I actually find Yuu/Shinoa, Shiho/Shinoa, Yuu/Asuramaru, Crowley/Shinoa, Mika/Krul, Lacus/Rene, or Ferid/Crowley more realistic but not MikaYuu. It just seems fake to me.

* How is Mitsuba not dead yet? I mean she's the most useless character in the Shinoa Squad. Yuu has a Progenitor's brother in a sword, Shinoa has Shikama Doji, Yoichi has Gekkoin, a guy with a six pack and Shiho has Kiseki-o who has burial ground powers, yet Tenjiryu....what's so special about him? He seems pretty normal, and has the weakest power of the main 5 (6?)
** We've seen it generate flames, so that's something....
*** Not much compared to the other demons

* Why did Mitsuba join the army, let alone the Shinoa Squad? She's the most useless and has no motive. Think about it....

Yu - Revenge for muh family
Shinoa - As the daughter of the Hiragis, she wanted to prove herself powerful
Shiho - His sister
Yoichi - Also his sister
Mitsuba - annoying typical anime tsundere with no distinctive qualities or characteristics, nothing interesting about her, slapped a boy for saving a kid, threw an unnecessary tantrum in S2E1 (who throws a tantrum over a PROMOTION) only exists for the Shinoa/Mitsuba/Yu love triangle and a fellow girl for Shinoa, nothing good about her
** She felt overshadowed by her big sister and wanted to prove herself like Shinoa
*** Shinoa's case is different. [[Spoiler: She was abused by her dad and Kureto, Kureto tried to get her raped, what Mahiru did to protect her, she was born with demons inside her, had to suffer nightmares and all etc. etc. etc., remember?]] Shinoa has a backstory that certainly makes her motives more than understandable, but Mitsuba gets nothing. No sympathetic backstory or anything. She just acts like a spoiled dick for no reason. Also she got a whole squad murdered, how come she isn't kicked out yet?
*** Because she's from the Sangu family? Or maybe they let her go because it was an accident?
*** [[FridgeBrilliance Or maybe they were hoping they could kill her off as well?]]
** She's also a liability, Yuu had to save her ass as well. And she never says thanks or anything. Is it any wonder she's TheScrappy?

* Why did [[Spoiler: The First Progenitor go to JAPAN, of all countries]]? He could have chosen another one, like Britain (the country that took over the entire frickin' world) or France/Germany (efficient armies) or somewhere else, but what made Japan so special?
** The First Progenitor is a weeaboo

* When is Chapter 68 gonna be English dubbed? I found a copy of it online....but it was Korean. I heard they're going to explore Krul's past in it
** It's HilariousInHindsight; some troper posted the above Headscratcher about Krul's past and parents, and a few months later.....bam, this happens...almost as if Takaya was reading TV Tropes
** This tropette is also waiting for the English dubbed manga, but she looked it up and we'll have to wait a week.


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First, Krul turns Mika into vampire. How does she do this? By kissing him on the lips. If you think that's normal behaviour for a mom and her son, you are clearly f*** in the head. What sort of mom kisses her son on the lips? No mom does, obviously, unless she's a paedophile and needs to go to jail. Now you can argue the kiss was the only way to get blood in his mouth, but remember, she was right on top of him, so she could have slit her wrists and gotten the blood down him. She obviously loves him.

Secondly, their relationship is literally a sex metaphor. Think of it. The vampire on vampire bite is described as 'granting a feeling of immense immoral pleasure', not 'heated up' like the vampire on human bite. As described on the "Does This Remind You Of Anything" on the manga page, it's basically them having sex.

And the way she uses double entendre while stroking his hair. She tells him to 'give his body what it desires' and 'her loyal servant for all of eternity'.

I know she called him her son, but in the Japanese raws, vampires refer to the vampire they turned as 子(こramji: ko), which translates as child. However, Krul called Mika her son(息子、むすこ, romaji: musuko), which indicates her affection for him.

In the Japanese text, the sires of vampires refer to the vampires they turned as child. However, Krul did not refer Mika as her child. Instead, she referred to him in a more intimate form

And also, read ILoveYouVampireSon

So why do people say that?

** Yeah. It's not only that what creeps me out, but Krul is FOURTEEN. HOW CAN SHE BE A PARENT? Yeah I know about her being over 1200 chronologically, but biologically she is still FOURTEEN, and she cannot be a parent. It scares me, and makes me think of teenage pregnancy. Many 14 year olds could die from being parents. And Mika is 16, and that leaves a LOT of UnfortunateImplications
** I really, really don't like the Mama Krul thing. I want to punch my screen with my bare fist every time I see anyone call her that. It's disturbing how the fans call a girl who's barely reached menstruation age a 'mom' and try to glorify it. Even if it's adoptive, it's still not okay. And every time anyone brings up the Mika/Krul pairing, people shout EEEWWW!!! GROSS!!! while defending.....well you know what they defend. Mika never refers to Krul as his mom, not even once or even a hint of anything referring to it, he always addresses her by her first name, and that's not how a mother/son relationship works.
** I think they do it because Mikrul has a higher chance of happening than MikaYuu. Come on. They kissed, Mika and Yuu haven't, she constantly uses double entendre while stroking his hair, Yuu doesn't do anything of the sort and their vampire feeding sessions are basically sex that's been going on for 4 years. They're basically a married couple.

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First, **First, Krul turns Mika into vampire. How does she do this? By kissing him on the lips. If you think that's normal behaviour for a mom and her son, you are clearly f*** in the head. What sort of mom kisses her son on the lips? No mom does, obviously, unless she's a paedophile and needs to go to jail. Now you can argue the kiss was the only way to get blood in his mouth, but remember, she was right on top of him, so she could have slit her wrists and gotten the blood down him. She obviously loves him.

Secondly, **Secondly, their relationship is literally a sex metaphor. Think of it. The vampire on vampire bite is described as 'granting a feeling of immense immoral pleasure', not 'heated up' like the vampire on human bite. As described on the "Does This Remind You Of Anything" on the manga page, it's basically them having sex.

And **And the way she uses double entendre while stroking his hair. She tells him to 'give his body what it desires' and 'her loyal servant for all of eternity'.

I **I know she called him her son, but in the Japanese raws, vampires refer to the vampire they turned as 子(こramji: ko), which translates as child. However, Krul called Mika her son(息子、むすこ, romaji: musuko), which indicates her affection for him.

In **In the Japanese text, the sires of vampires refer to the vampires they turned as child. However, Krul did not refer Mika as her child. Instead, she referred to him in a more intimate form

And **And also, read ILoveYouVampireSon

So **So why do people say that?

** *** Yeah. It's not only that what creeps me out, but Krul is FOURTEEN. HOW CAN SHE BE A PARENT? Yeah I know about her being over 1200 chronologically, but biologically she is still FOURTEEN, and she cannot be a parent. It scares me, and makes me think of teenage pregnancy. Many 14 year olds could die from being parents. And Mika is 16, and that leaves a LOT of UnfortunateImplications
** *** I really, really don't like the Mama Krul thing. I want to punch my screen with my bare fist every time I see anyone call her that. It's disturbing how the fans call a girl who's barely reached menstruation age a 'mom' and try to glorify it. Even if it's adoptive, it's still not okay. And every time anyone brings up the Mika/Krul pairing, people shout EEEWWW!!! GROSS!!! while defending.....well you know what they defend. Mika never refers to Krul as his mom, not even once or even a hint of anything referring to it, he always addresses her by her first name, and that's not how a mother/son relationship works.
** *** I think they do it because Mikrul has a higher chance of happening than MikaYuu. Come on. They kissed, Mika and Yuu haven't, she constantly uses double entendre while stroking his hair, Yuu doesn't do anything of the sort and their vampire feeding sessions are basically sex that's been going on for 4 years. They're basically a married couple.

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* WHY IS KURETO SUCH A DICK? He was an ass to Guren, tried to get Shinoa raped, tortured Yoichi and Kimizuki and MURDERED THE NARUMI SQUAD FOR NO REASON! How the hell is he not karma slapped?
** Some people just are assholes
** Living in all that Hiragi wealth and luxury has made him a spoilt brat
**Seriously, what does Aoi see in him? Or is she secretly as nasty as him on the inside? Her sister Mitsuba certainly is horrible, so maybe it could run in the family.
*** Cuz Aoi is a GoldDigger

* Does anyone else find Mitsuba's FreudianExcuse pathetic? Not that it's not sad, it is tragic losing all your comrades but I hate how she slapped Yuu for saving a kid and acted like a bitch to him for that
** I agree. She should be kicked out of the Shinoa Squad and be replaced by someone who isn't a bitch

* So how come Guren dating Mahiru (a Hiragi) is bad, but Aoi dating Kureto (a Hiragi) is okay? Is it because Mahiru's a girl and Kureto's a guy?
** It's called a DoubleStandard









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Why do people say that Mika and Krul have a mother/son relationship? Clearly anyone with a brain, eyes and common sense can tell, THEY DO NOT HAVE A MOTHER/SON RELATIONSHIP.

First, Krul turns Mika into vampire. How does she do this? By kissing him on the lips. If you think that's normal behaviour for a mom and her son, you are clearly f***** in the head. What sort of mom kisses her son on the lips? No mom does, obviously, unless she's a paedophile and needs to go to jail. Now you can argue the kiss was the only way to get blood in his mouth, but remember, she was right on top of him, so she could have slit her wrists and gotten the blood down him. She obviously loves him.

Secondly, their relationship is literally a sex metaphor. Think of it. The vampire on vampire bite is described as 'granting a feeling of immense immoral pleasure', not 'heated up' like the vampire on human bite. As described on the "Does This Remind You Of Anything" on the manga page, it's basically them having sex.

And the way she uses double entendre while stroking his hair. She tells him to 'give his body what it desires' and 'her loyal servant for all of eternity'.

I know she called him her son, but in the Japanese raws, vampires refer to the vampire they turned as 子(こramji: ko), which translates as child. However, Krul called Mika her son(息子、むすこ, romaji: musuko), which indicates her affection for him.

In the Japanese text, the sires of vampires refer to the vampires they turned as child. However, Krul did not refer Mika as her child. Instead, she referred to him in a more intimate form

And also, read ILoveYouVampireSon

So why do people say that?

** Yeah. It's not only that what creeps me out, but Krul is FOURTEEN. HOW CAN SHE BE A PARENT? Yeah I know about her being over 1200 chronologically, but biologically she is still FOURTEEN, and she cannot be a parent. It scares me, and makes me think of teenage pregnancy. Many 14 year olds could die from being parents. And Mika is 16, and that leaves a LOT of UnfortunateImplications
** I really, really don't like the Mama Krul thing. I want to punch my screen with my bare fist every time I see anyone call her that. It's disturbing how the fans call a girl who's barely reached menstruation age a 'mom' and try to glorify it. Even if it's adoptive, it's still not okay. And every time anyone brings up the Mika/Krul pairing, people shout EEEWWW!!! GROSS!!! while defending.....well you know what they defend. Mika never refers to Krul as his mom, not even once or even a hint of anything referring to it, he always addresses her by her first name, and that's not how a mother/son relationship works.
** I think they do it because Mikrul has a higher chance of happening than MikaYuu. Come on. They kissed, Mika and Yuu haven't, she constantly uses double entendre while stroking his hair, Yuu doesn't do anything of the sort and their vampire feeding sessions are basically sex that's been going on for 4 years. They're basically a married couple.
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* So....who were Krul's parents? And why did the First Progenitor pick her and Ashera as his minions?
* Where did she get Arukanu from?
* ^Speaking of Arukanu, what can he do? Is he a magical bat or something? It said he's a 'familiar so he must have some magic power right?
** Alternatively he could be a kwami from Miraculous Ladybug, and he grants the user bat themed powers. That explains why he (she? It?) sticks to Krul like a magnet
*** Her catchphrase could be 'Arukanu, fangs out!'

[[Folder: Crowley and his past]]
* How did Ferid know Crowley had a Seraph gene?

[[Folder: The Hiragi Family]]
* Once the Hiragis take over the world, what are they going to do next?
** Why do they want to take over the world anyway? I mean...I get it sounds cool and all but really, isn't being the richest family in Japan enough?

[[Folder:LacusWeltAndReneSimm]]
* Is Lacus German? He has a German last name (Welt means 'world' in German)
* Rene could possibly be French, based on his name.
** Lol, Rene Descartes
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The headscratchers for the Seraph Of The End franchise

[[Folder: Krul Tepes' past]]

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