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****Um, excuse me, just to pull you up on this, but Bunnymund is clearly modelled off a kangaroo. And it's not just an accent, he uses boomerangs as weapons. And he drops so many cliche Australian slang words that I feel like I'm choking on my own culture. He's definitely Australian, and it bugged me as well that they put Easter in springtime, when here it's smack in autumn.
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* What about all the kids who aren't celebrating Christmas or Easter-there's plenty of Jewish kids...

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* What about all the kids who aren't celebrating Christmas or Easter-there's plenty of Jewish kids...kids...
** The Tooth Fairy and Sandman are wholly secular. And while Santa and the Easter Bunny are associated with Christian/Catholic holidays, they're really just big jolly figures that even other kids probably enjoy the sight and thought of. Anyway, the Guardians protect all children, including the ones that don't believe in them, so it's not like it matters in the big scheme of things.
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** Just standard kids movie stuff. If there's not a trope for Adults Don't Believe, there ought to be.
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** Jack ices up the streets pretty good in creating the snow day, which was probably one of the major justifications for it.
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** Indeed, note that Sophie displays absolutely zero surprise at seeing the Guardians, or any of the wacky stuff she encounters. She's just too little for her belief to be a matter of faith, it's all "Ooo, that thing I've seen before that I like!"
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*** Bunny also presumably goes straight back to Santa's after the Yeti's nap Jack, through his tunnel. It's possible he didn't the first time out of politeness mixed with RuleOfFunny
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** Maybe it just focus his powers so he has more control over them.
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* Jack's staff was just an oddly shaped stick when he first picked it up, and before then, he was show to still have powers .So why does he lose all of his powers when Pitch breaks it?

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* Jack's staff was just an oddly shaped stick when he first picked it up, and before then, he was show to still have powers .So why does he lose all of his powers when Pitch breaks it?it?
*What about all the kids who aren't celebrating Christmas or Easter-there's plenty of Jewish kids...
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* Who do only children count? I mean, I'm sure the parents would notice that they weren't replacing any teeth with quarters (or ''[[NoKillLikeOverkill Christmas trees]]''), or that there were a lot of gifts they hadn't bought, etc., so they have every logical reason to believe that there's either some weirdo creep in every neighbourhood in the world or the legends are all real.

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* Who do only children count? I mean, I'm sure the parents would notice that they weren't replacing any teeth with quarters (or ''[[NoKillLikeOverkill Christmas trees]]''), or that there were a lot of gifts they hadn't bought, etc., so they have every logical reason to believe that there's either some weirdo creep in every neighbourhood in the world or the legends are all real.real.
* Jack's staff was just an oddly shaped stick when he first picked it up, and before then, he was show to still have powers .So why does he lose all of his powers when Pitch breaks it?
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*** Given the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbits_in_Australia rabbit epidemic]] that occurred when settlers decided to introduce rabbits (see: animals with no indigenous predators), I'd say yes, though it's more controlled now.
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** When North America doesn't get their presents or Easter eggs, the news probably spreads to the Southern Hemisphere. And where does it say Bunnymund is Australian? Sure, he has the accent, but he was never stated to be born in Australia. He was also a BUNNY. Are bunnies typically found in Australia?

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** When North America doesn't get their presents or Easter eggs, the news probably spreads to the Southern Hemisphere. And where does it say Bunnymund is Australian? Sure, he has the accent, but he was never stated to be born in Australia. He was also a BUNNY. Are Also, are bunnies typically found in Australia?


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** Check the "Fridge Logic" page. It says this there. Twice, actually. They were really close together, only a room apart, so their lights were probably so close Pitch thought they were one. Or Sophie was just too young to actually even understand the concept of "belief". For example, Christmas is that day where toys appear under a tree decorated with glowy thingies. -CV

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** Check the "Fridge Logic" page. It says this there. Twice, actually. They were really close together, only a room apart, so their lights were probably so close Pitch thought they were one. Or Sophie was just too young to actually even understand the concept of "belief". For example, Christmas is that day where toys appear under a tree decorated with glowy thingies. -CV
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** When North America doesn't get their presents or Easter eggs, the news probably spreads to the Southern Hemisphere. And where does it say Bunnymund is Australian? Sure, he has the accent, but he was never stated to be born in Australia. He was also a BUNNY. Are bunnies typically found in Australia? -CV

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** When North America doesn't get their presents or Easter eggs, the news probably spreads to the Southern Hemisphere. And where does it say Bunnymund is Australian? Sure, he has the accent, but he was never stated to be born in Australia. He was also a BUNNY. Are bunnies typically found in Australia? -CVAustralia?
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** See the above.

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** See the above.above.
* Who do only children count? I mean, I'm sure the parents would notice that they weren't replacing any teeth with quarters (or ''[[NoKillLikeOverkill Christmas trees]]''), or that there were a lot of gifts they hadn't bought, etc., so they have every logical reason to believe that there's either some weirdo creep in every neighbourhood in the world or the legends are all real.

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** Or it could be that Santa's workshop had some kind of spells preventing magical entry. That's very common in fantastic fiction.

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** Or it could be that Santa's workshop had some kind of spells preventing magical entry. That's very common in fantastic fiction. fiction.
*** That doesn't seem to be the case, since Pitch is able to appear inside the North Pole and Bunny later opens a tunnel to his warren directly from Santa's workshop. Still, it would be good manners not to directly transport yourself into someone else's home. It's like knocking before coming inside for non-magical guests.
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***According to the other wiki, yes.
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** If the town was part of a school district, instead of having a school system exclusively for that particular town, it's possible that there was heavy snow in another area and this town only got a little. This troper has had a ''lot'' of snow days with now snow at all, because of the weather in another part of the district.

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** If the town was part of a school district, instead of having a school system exclusively for that particular town, it's possible that there was heavy snow in another area and this town only got a little. This troper has had a ''lot'' of snow days with now no snow at all, because of the weather in another part of the district.
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** If the town was part of a school district, instead of a school system exclusively for that particular town, it's possible that there was heavy snow in another area and this town only got a little. This troper has had a ''lot'' of snow days with now snow at all, because of the weather in another part of the district.

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** If the town was part of a school district, instead of having a school system exclusively for that particular town, it's possible that there was heavy snow in another area and this town only got a little. This troper has had a ''lot'' of snow days with now snow at all, because of the weather in another part of the district.
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** If the town was part of a school district, instead of a school system exclusively for that particular town, it's possible that there was heavy snow in another area and this town only got a little. This troper has had a ''lot'' of snow days with now snow at all, because of the weather in another part of the district.


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** Or it could be that Santa's workshop had some kind of spells preventing magical entry. That's very common in fantastic fiction.

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* Why was Jamie the only one left who believed? What about Sophie, she saw the guardians even more than Jaime. She went to the Easter Bunny's tunnel and saw the eggs being made.

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** The mouse is a European equivilant to the tooth fairy myth. It was a nod to other fairy tales. And if I had to guess, it's just about who woke up at the time. Remember timezones are a factor. So while other kids woke up, several others were still asleep. The European division doesn't cover places like North America.
* Why was Jamie the only one left who believed? What about Sophie, she saw the guardians even more than Jaime. She went to the Easter Bunny's tunnel and saw the eggs being made.made.
** See the above.
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** The latter, I believe is the case.
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* What was with the mouse? Did he work for the tooth fairy or something? And if so, and if she still had people out there working for her, why were so many kids still losing faith so fast if they were apparently outsourcing their work?

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* What was with the mouse? Did he work for the tooth fairy or something? And if so, and if she still had people out there working for her, why were so many kids still losing faith so fast if they were apparently outsourcing their work?work?
* Why was Jamie the only one left who believed? What about Sophie, she saw the guardians even more than Jaime. She went to the Easter Bunny's tunnel and saw the eggs being made.
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* Why didn't the Bunny just set the tunnel entrance to the inside of Santa's workshop, rather than outside?

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* Why didn't the Bunny just set the tunnel entrance to the inside of Santa's workshop, rather than outside?outside?
* What was with the mouse? Did he work for the tooth fairy or something? And if so, and if she still had people out there working for her, why were so many kids still losing faith so fast if they were apparently outsourcing their work?
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* This is something made somewhat unclear in the movie. if enough people believe in a specific guardian, does that mean that everyone can automatically see him or her? Or is it only people who believe in a specific guardian that can see that specific guardian.

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* This is something made somewhat unclear in the movie. if enough people believe in a specific guardian, does that mean that everyone can automatically see him or her? Or is it only people who believe in a specific guardian that can see that specific guardian.guardian.
* So, supposedly the town Jack was hanging out at towards the beginning of the movie had a snow day. But there's barely enough snow on the grass to constitute a snow day, let alone the streets.
* Why didn't the Bunny just set the tunnel entrance to the inside of Santa's workshop, rather than outside?
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** Check the "Fridge Logic" page. It says this there. Twice, actually. They were really close together, only a room apart, so their lights were probably so close Pitch thought they were one. Or Sophie was just too young to actually even understand the concept of "belief". For example, Christmas is that day where toys appear under a tree decorated with glowy thingies. -CV

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** Check the "Fridge Logic" page. It says this there. Twice, actually. They were really close together, only a room apart, so their lights were probably so close Pitch thought they were one. Or Sophie was just too young to actually even understand the concept of "belief". For example, Christmas is that day where toys appear under a tree decorated with glowy thingies. -CV-CV
* This is something made somewhat unclear in the movie. if enough people believe in a specific guardian, does that mean that everyone can automatically see him or her? Or is it only people who believe in a specific guardian that can see that specific guardian.

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** When North America doesn't get their presents or Easter eggs, the news probably spreads to the Southern Hemisphere. And where does it say Bunnymund is Australian? Sure, he has the accent, but he was never stated to be born in Australia. He was also a BUNNY. Are bunnies typically found in Australia? -CV



** Check the "Fridge Logic" page. It says this there. Twice, actually. They were really close together, only a room apart, so their lights were probably so close Pitch thought they were one. Or Sophie was just too young to actually even understand the concept of "belief". For example, Christmas is that day where toys appear under a tree decorated with glowy thingies.

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** Check the "Fridge Logic" page. It says this there. Twice, actually. They were really close together, only a room apart, so their lights were probably so close Pitch thought they were one. Or Sophie was just too young to actually even understand the concept of "belief". For example, Christmas is that day where toys appear under a tree decorated with glowy thingies. -CV
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* How is it that Jamie is, for a while, the only kid in the whole world to believe in the Guardians when his sister ''actually met them'' too?

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* How is it that Jamie is, for a while, the only kid in the whole world to believe in the Guardians when his sister ''actually met them'' too?too?
** Check the "Fridge Logic" page. It says this there. Twice, actually. They were really close together, only a room apart, so their lights were probably so close Pitch thought they were one. Or Sophie was just too young to actually even understand the concept of "belief". For example, Christmas is that day where toys appear under a tree decorated with glowy thingies.
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* Bunnymund says "I'm bringing spring to every continent, an' I'm bringin' hope with me!" ... ... except for Africa, South America, and what's that last one, oh, yes, ''Australia.'' How can the Easter Bunny forget that Easter doesn't align with springtime in his home continent?

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* Bunnymund says "I'm bringing spring to every continent, an' I'm bringin' hope with me!" ... ... except for Africa, South America, and what's that last one, oh, yes, ''Australia.'' How can the Easter Bunny forget that Easter doesn't align with springtime in his home continent?continent?
* How is it that Jamie is, for a while, the only kid in the whole world to believe in the Guardians when his sister ''actually met them'' too?
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* Bunnymund says "I'm bringing spring to every continent, an' I'm bringin' hope with me!" ... ... except for Africa, South America, and what's that last one, oh, yes, ''Australia.'' How can the Easter Bunny forget that Easter doesn't align with springtime in his home continent?

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