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* Mytho wasn't that good....Couldn't he sacrifice just a piece of his heart just for Ahiru... After he supposedly was going to sacrice all of it anyways... Besides he supposedly had an impulse to help everyone yet he ignored the fact that Ahiru was trapped in duck form...
** Mytho isn't a bad person for not sacrificing a heart shard for Ahiru to be a girl. For one thing, Ahiru isn't "trapped" in her duck form--she ''is'' a duck. It's unnatural for her to be a girl, not the other way around. For another thing, Ahiru wouldn't ''want'' him to give up some of his heart for her--she fought REALLY hard for him to be a complete person again, and if he gave up part of his heart, he'd give up part of himself. It's particularly bad since the heartshard she transforms with is the feeling of Hope...can you imagine being incapable of feeling any hope? He'd be miserable without it.
** Mytho isn't a bad person for not sacrificing a heart shard for Ahiru to be a girl. For one thing, Ahiru isn't "trapped" in her duck form--she ''is'' a duck. It's unnatural for her to be a girl, not the other way around. For another thing, Ahiru wouldn't ''want'' him to give up some of his heart for her--she fought REALLY hard for him to be a complete person again, and if he gave up part of his heart, he'd give up part of himself. It's particularly bad since the heartshard she transforms with is the feeling of Hope...can you imagine being incapable of feeling any hope? He'd be miserable without it.
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* Mytho wasn't that good....Couldn't he sacrifice just a piece of his heart just for Ahiru... After he supposedly was going to sacrice sacrifice all of it anyways... Besides he supposedly had an impulse to help everyone yet he ignored the fact that Ahiru was trapped in duck form...
** Mytho isn't a bad person for not sacrificing a heart shard for Ahiru to be a girl. For one thing, Ahiru isn't "trapped" in her duckform--she form—she ''is'' a duck. It's unnatural for her to be a girl, not the other way around. For another thing, Ahiru wouldn't ''want'' him to give up some of his heart for her--she her—she fought REALLY hard for him to be a complete person again, and if he gave up part of his heart, he'd give up part of himself. It's particularly bad since the heartshard she transforms with is the feeling of Hope...can you imagine being incapable of feeling any hope? He'd be miserable without it.
** Mytho isn't a bad person for not sacrificing a heart shard for Ahiru to be a girl. For one thing, Ahiru isn't "trapped" in her duck
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* What is Princess Tutu anyways? Ahiru made it clear that she wasnt being herself while transformed ... Makes you wonder...?
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* What is Princess Tutu anyways? Ahiru made it clear that she wasnt wasn't being herself while transformed ... Makes you wonder...?
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** He said he would eat it and "become immortal", so presumably there was some special property to the Prince's heart alone (perhaps because he was so loving).
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** Moreover, Mytho probably ''can't'' give up just a single shard of his heart, as suggested by how he had to shatter the entire thing when sealing the Raven only required five pieces.
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* What exactly does eating someone's heart do for the Raven? I originally thought it would somehow allow him to circumvent the seal keeping him imprisoned, but even after the Prince's heart is restored, he still tries to consume one. Does it just make him more powerful in general?
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Tutu was born of the wish of the duck, the whim of the Author, and the magic of the Prince.
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* Why does everyone constantly mock Fakir for supposedly being a knight who failed because he was afraid to die? Unlike, say, Mytho or the Raven, Fakir was a real person in real life before the story took effect. We see him as a little kid who, at most, was said to only be a reincarnation of the knight from the tale. And even if we look past that, he showed that he ''was'' willing to die during the confrontation with Kraehe at the lake, and he only survived thanks to Ms. Edel saving him. So why do Mytho and Rue continue to mock him for being a failure?
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* Mytho wasnt wasn't that good....Couldn't he sacrfice sacrifice just a piece of his heart just for Ahiru... After he supposedly was going to sacrice all of it anyways... Besides he supposedly had an impulse to help everyone yet he ignored the fact that Ahiru wastra was trapped in duck form...
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** That's a pretty good point.I love how the theme of this series is accepting yourself as you really are.
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** That's a pretty good point. I love how the theme of this series is accepting yourself as you really are.
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** Rue ''was'' shown of being disturbed by his changes at first, but in the second season I think it shows her beginning to accept him for who he truly is, not just as a prince that will love her because that's his nature. Plus, the second season seems to make a case that [[spoiler:Rue is prepared to love Mytho even for his darker qualities--brought out by the Raven's blood--whereas Ahiru is scared of it and pushed away by it, even though she still tries her best to help him]]. Plus, although Ahiru definitely cares for and supports Mytho, she never has gotten to know Mytho as well as Rue or Fakir.
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** Rue ''was'' shown of being to be disturbed by his changes at first, but in the second season I think it shows her beginning to accept him for who he truly is, not just as a prince that will love her because that's his nature. Plus, the second season seems to make a case that [[spoiler:Rue is prepared to love Mytho even for his darker qualities--brought out by the Raven's blood--whereas Ahiru is scared of it and pushed away by it, even though she still tries her best to help him]]. Plus, although Ahiru definitely cares for and supports Mytho, she never has gotten to know Mytho as well as Rue or Fakir.
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*** Where does it say that Tutu was his heartshard of hope? Fakir writes that 'the power came form deep within the duck's body, and it was hope,' and Drosselmeyer complains about a mere duck having that much hope. All of this attributes the Hope as Power to the person who became Tutu, not the entity known as Tutu. It would make more sense that the shard that enables the transformation into Tutu is the one that hold his powers, his magic. Why? Because throughout the series, Tutu exhibits various abilities, such as falling lightly as a feather, summoning up plants to help her, etc. At the end, the restored Prince is shown doing every single one of the things Tutu could do, which he never showed any hint of being able to do before, even once he remembered who and what he was.
Tutu was born of the wish of the duck, the whim of the Author, and the magic of the Prince.
Tutu was born of the wish of the duck, the whim of the Author, and the magic of the Prince.
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** There's also the fact that Mytho is, yknow, a character. Maybe he's not ageless himself but he doesn't age because he's out of his original story and in another one.
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** He seems to just get off on it, but maybe I've watched too many episodes of CriminalMinds.
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** He seems to just get off on it, but maybe I've watched too many episodes of CriminalMinds.''Series/CriminalMinds''.
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** He seems to just get off on it, but maybe I've watched too many episodes of CriminalMinds.
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** I think she's supposed to be TheNarrator of all fairytales and essentially a character herself. She's the literal voice of the text. I also always thought she and Edel were two sides of the same coin, where Edel was the light fairy voice to draw attention to herself to push the plot and TheNarrator was the voice of cold, harsh reality because she was the voice of the inevitable.
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*** Also remember that Princess Tutu has his heart shard of ''hope'', specifically. Even with all of his other emotions, without the capacity to feel hope, he can't realistically resist anyway.
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** Mytho and the Raven are the only characters with no existence outside of Drosselmeyer's stories (the other characters were all born in the real world), so neither of them are capable of defying him. Presumably they can't act outside of their original characterizations - at any rate, Mytho never finds out about the story-spinning until ''after'' Drosselmeyer has been overthrown. Since the book is actually his (forgotten?) past, Tutu probably represents a strong memory (and most likely regret of some sort, considering his ChronicHeroSyndrome).
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** Mytho's actions make even less sense in the end, when everyone is already trying to [[RageAgainstTheAuthor defy the story]] [[ScrewDestiny and their role in it]] by trying to come up with new and creative ways to break everything apart, and Mytho, having gotten all but one shard of his heart back... goes along with Raven's demands and a HostageSituation. Of course, then he tries to fight the Raven and decides to break his heart again rather then give it over... wasn't it obvious from the start that the situation was skewed against him - he'd already been in the exactly same one before, after all, and ought to know how it ended. So my version of explanation of why he did all that... unlike others, who are originally humans forced into their roles in the story [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation (or having chosen them)]], Mytho is a fictional character brought into the semi-real world, so he has a much harder time [[ScrewDestiny defying stories]] or even realizing the implications of following through with them, which would already be a part of defying them - as more GenreSavvy Tutu has demonstrated by not answering the question. Basically, Mytho [[CompletelyMissingThePoint can't make the connection]] between [[StarCrossedLovers storybook Tutu]] and [[MagicalGirl real Tutu in front of him]] as being the same character with the same curse. He's probably better at it after getting his whole heart back - without it, he seems not only emotionless but suprisingly clueless - "What is this feeling I have?"
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** Also, at least Ahiru was selected to be put into the story specifically because she cared for the Prince in the first place, when she was still just a duck. Since their feelings develop significantly and even had the power to alter the intended storyline (Rue's sacrifice and Ahiru's selflessness, for instance), they are definitely very true.
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* Why does Mytho keep asking Tutu (in the first season anyway) how she feels about him? Fakir claims to have read the story to him, so he ''knows'' she will disappear if she tells him she loves him. In fact, apparently it's his ''favourite part'' of the whole story. Does he want her to vanish or what? Or is it that when he enters his story role, he forgets what he knows about it?
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** In retrospect, Princess Tutu's inner monologue during episode 13 shows that she and Rue/Kraehe are more alike than one might think. While Ahiru/Tutu's love is ultimately of a different sort ([[TheFourLove more ''agape'' than ''eros''), she was always thinking of the true Mytho, the prince who could love anyone unconditionally. That's exactly why Rue loved him, as well.
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** Anteater Rita isn't a real threat. All she's really trying to do is make Rue jealous and unhappy, and Rue knows this. She also knows that she can get Mytho back just by telling him to, and that without a heart, he's an unsuitable boyfriend for anyone but herself (which is proven when Rita dumps him on her own). The reason she gets possessive later is because a non-heartless Mytho isn't soullessly compliant and his emotions might cause him to decide that he doesn't want to be with her anymore [[spoiler:remember that her father has raised her to think that she is inherently unlovable]], so Tutu's actions represent a genuine threat to her status quo.
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* Considering how possessive Rue seemed to be in the middle part of the series, why was she so blasé about Anteater Rita supposedly stealing Mytho from her?
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*** Actually, Rue has that one long eyelash too.
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** Fakir says outright that he gave Mytho his name when he found him. It makes sense, if he wouldn't want Mytho to remember who he is.
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** My interpretation is that her Princess Tutu form simply allows Ahiru to express herself better. She can dance better and is more articulate. Plus magic flowers and vines and spotlights on demand.
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**He failed as a knight in the story, as in not dying for his prince. He survived instead, which made story take completly different turn.
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* Why does everyone keep calling Fakir a failure in the second half of the show? He did a pretty good job of slicing up an army of ballet ninjas before saving the day in the underground lake. Where's the failure?
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** I believe Ahiru herself clears this point and explains it in Akt 24. [[spoiler: As she speaks to Fakir after Rue's HeroicSacrifice, she says that she wouldv'e not been able to be as selfless as Rue did, willing to sacrifice absolutely everything to help Mytho in desperate cisrumctances. Ahiru's pendant that give her her human form AND the ability to become Tutu? It has a shard of Mytho's heart, and Ahiru points out that she would've thought twice if she directly had to give it up since, understandably, she loves having a human form. Rue, on the other hand, gave her own life and freedom in exchange for Mythos's own, '''without any hesitation''', when the Ravenfied!Mytho was fully under the Raven's control and went to him ("Let the Prince go, please! Eat my own heart instead!"). And Ahiru herself says "'''I''' wouldn't have been able to do that for him".]] Therefore, it's less about "supporting and helping a loved one to change in a positive way" and more like [[spoiler: being ready to give everything for a loved one, including your life, if push comes to shove"]]... something that Rue did and that Ahiru confesses that she would have '''not''' be able to pull if in the same situation.
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* I know a LOT of people [[DisContinuity hate]] the manga (and I admit it had a fair share of shortcomings), but I am a little mad that the manga had a chapter looking at Pique's affection for Fakir, while the anime didn't. Wouldn't that have been a perfect thing to make part of Pique's almost-sacrifice in episode 15? Her faith in Fakir is already broken because everyone [[ClearMyName thinks he pushed Mytho out of the window]], and Tutu reminding her that Fakir is really a good person could've snapped her out of it instead of just telling her that sacrificing herself to Mytho was wrong. Unless she really is just a fangirl and had no real feelings for him...but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot that also irritates me]], because in the show every show of affection is at least [[FreudianExcuse slightly explained]]...
** Pique, like quite a few 13-year-old schoolgirls, picked a very distant guy she barely knew and started crushing on him for his "mysterious aura". It's never once shown in the anime that she truly knows what he's like.
** And if Pique was a candidate for heart-snatching, why not Lilie? Come on, you know we're ALL dying to know why she's so crazy.
*** I believe Lilie was not picked because...um...she doesn't exactly have a pure heart, being a sadist and all.
*** [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth The Raven probably didn't want to deal with her]].
*** For that matter, why wasn't Duck ever a candidate? She's gotta have the purest heart out of everybody in the entire show.
**** [[AWizardDidIt Drosselmeyer Did It.]]
***** I agree. While it would be tragic, it doesn't seem like the tragedy Drosselmeyer would favor. Or maybe he was just too short-sighted to think of it.
**** Not to mention, Mytho was friends with Duck, so Raven!Mytho might have subconsciously avoided her.
**** Also, let's not forget that Duck is Tutu. The Raven needs her to restore Mytho's heart so he can eat it for eternal life.
** Pique, like quite a few 13-year-old schoolgirls, picked a very distant guy she barely knew and started crushing on him for his "mysterious aura". It's never once shown in the anime that she truly knows what he's like.
** And if Pique was a candidate for heart-snatching, why not Lilie? Come on, you know we're ALL dying to know why she's so crazy.
*** I believe Lilie was not picked because...um...she doesn't exactly have a pure heart, being a sadist and all.
*** [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth The Raven probably didn't want to deal with her]].
*** For that matter, why wasn't Duck ever a candidate? She's gotta have the purest heart out of everybody in the entire show.
**** [[AWizardDidIt Drosselmeyer Did It.]]
***** I agree. While it would be tragic, it doesn't seem like the tragedy Drosselmeyer would favor. Or maybe he was just too short-sighted to think of it.
**** Not to mention, Mytho was friends with Duck, so Raven!Mytho might have subconsciously avoided her.
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**It's explained in one of the prologues that the prince lost his memories along with his feelings when he shattered his heart, so naturally he'd forget what his real name was. Also notice that, throughout the series, as he regains pieces of his heart, he regains some of his memories as well as his feelings.
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** It's also probably due to Drosselmeyer's story machine being broken. Right after that happened, anything that was magical in the town either vanished or turned into something normal.
