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* So if all it takes is to gather a bunch of people to believe the same thing to warp reality, then what happens when ALL people believe that warping reality by pure force of will its IMPOSSIBLE?
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* So if all it takes is to gather a bunch of people to believe the same thing to warp reality, then what happens when ALL people believe that warping reality by pure force of will its is IMPOSSIBLE?
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*** The novelization [[FanonDiscontinuity that does not exist]]) that mentions that the unspeakable crime that The Original Nameless One made was a deal with Fhjull. So maybe the three is linked to the original. Fhjull was the reason that you ''seeked'' immortality; Rhavel is the one that ''gave'' you immortality and Trias... ''damn'', that was almost something.
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*** The novelization [[FanonDiscontinuity ([[FanonDiscontinuity that does not exist]]) that mentions that the unspeakable crime that The Original Nameless One made was a deal with Fhjull. So maybe the three is linked to the original. Fhjull was the reason that you ''seeked'' immortality; Rhavel is the one that ''gave'' you immortality and Trias... ''damn'', that was almost something.
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*** None more dangerous than yourself in your full glory. So yes you in your full glory(the transcendent one.) is one of your enemy but separate from the enemies three. And it can't be pharod because and i quote "Given life and twisted by the laws of the planes.", pharod is mortal, mortals are born OF the prime not OF the (outer)planes, even if he was born in Sigil. The three the developers mentioned fit the prophecy all are planar creatures, and all have been twisted from there natural state by those same laws.
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*** None more dangerous than yourself in your full glory. So yes you in your full glory(the transcendent one.) is one of your enemy but separate from the enemies three. And it can't be pharod because and i quote "Given life and twisted by the laws of the planes.", pharod is mortal, mortals are born OF the prime not OF the (outer)planes, even if he was born in Sigil. The three the developers mentioned fit the prophecy all are planar creatures, and all have been twisted from there their natural state by those same laws.
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* As we all know, the way that the Lady of Pain deals with people who upset her is by mazing them first as a "warning" and then killing them if they manage to escape but don't learn their lesson. Why is it possible for the Nameless One to get mazed in the game if he has already been mazed earlier in another life (as evident by the journal and hammer found in the Player's maze)? Wouldn't the Lady just kill him since offending her at this point would already count as "strike two"?
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* As we all know, the way that the Lady of Pain deals with people who upset her is by mazing them first as a "warning" and then killing them if they manage to escape but don't learn their lesson. Why is it possible for the Nameless One to get mazed in the game if he has already been mazed earlier in another life (as evident by the journal and hammer found in the Player's maze)? Wouldn't the Lady just kill him since offending her at this point would already count as "strike two"?
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* If you ask Kismaxi Adder-Tongue from the Brothel of Slating Intellectual Lusts to teach Morte to be more abusive... Morte ''waggles his eyebrows at her.'' The floating skull ''WAGGLES HIS EYEBROWS.'' I'd say YouFailBiologyForever but it's almost certainly intentional.
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* If you ask Kismaxi Adder-Tongue from the Brothel of Slating Intellectual Lusts to teach Morte to be more abusive... Morte ''waggles his eyebrows at her.'' The floating skull ''WAGGLES HIS EYEBROWS.'' I'd say YouFailBiologyForever [[ArtisticLicenseBiology you fail biology forever]] but it's almost certainly intentional.
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* It is stated that TTO's entire goal is to be left alone and to not be bothered by TNO. But, if that's the case, then why didn't he go out of his way to kill Ravel and Trias long before TNO could get to them?
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* It is stated that TTO's entire goal is to be left alone and to not be bothered by TNO. But, if that's the case, then why didn't he go out of his way to kill Ravel and Trias long before TNO could get to them?
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* The nameless one ''isn't'' a petitioner when he goes to the Gray Waste at the end, because he didn't die. He's now mortal, but that's not the same. Evidently his doom of being dragged there to fight in the Blood War was conditional upon his being mortal but not upon his death.
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* That said, it's likely Ravel was at least INSPIRED by liches. Essentially, he's a Living Lich, whose phylactery is functionally indestructable...or should be. Pity the ritual was...flawed.
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****More likely, your former incarnation Yemeth wore the pendant for some other reason. Others mistook it for the cause of his immortality.
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*** [[EvenEvilHasStandards HE STILL CRIES!]]
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**** Not true. There are plenty of temples in Sigil, and priests of almost every deity. While the gods themselves can't enter the cage, but their proxies can (and do). Worship of the Lady will get you mazed, and so might worshipping the Aoskar, the dead god of portals (he was killed by the Lady of Pain).
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*** Not true. There are plenty of temples in Sigil, and priests of almost every deity. While the gods themselves can't enter the cage, but their proxies can (and do). Worship of the Lady will get you mazed, and so might worshipping the Aoskar, the dead god of portals (he was killed by the Lady of Pain).
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*** Not true. There are plenty of temples in Sigil, and priests of almost every deity. While the gods themselves can't enter the cage, but their proxies can (and do). Worship of the Lady will get you mazed, and so might worshipping the Aoskar, the dead god of portals (he was killed by the Lady of Pain).
*** This troper's guess is that the differences between faerunian and planar cosmology are little more than a massive ContinuitySnarl. It's up to the DM (or the writer of whatever mod or fanfic) to decide the ultimate fate of any particular sod in the multiverse.
*** This troper's guess is that the differences between faerunian and planar cosmology are little more than a massive ContinuitySnarl. It's up to the DM (or the writer of whatever mod or fanfic) to decide the ultimate fate of any particular sod in the multiverse.
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** Really he's ObliviouslyEvil, since he does bad things but he doesn't know that they're bad. It's up to the individual to decide if that truly makes him evil or not. On the other hand, if someone was able to get it through his head that randomly setting things on fire is Not Nice, would he stop or try to control himself, or would he keep doing it anyway? That's what would determine if he was really evil or not.
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*** Worship of any god is forbidden in Sigil. Wouldn't an of the truly faithful get mazed or impaled (or whatever the Lady of Pain has in store for them) before they had the chance to go to their respective gods? The Lady of Pain definitely has god-like powers, so it is possible that she might be able to prevent the faithful from ascending to their gods' home plane.
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*** Worship of any god is forbidden in Sigil. Wouldn't an of the truly faithful get mazed or impaled (or whatever the Lady of Pain has in store for them) before they had the chance to go to their respective gods? The Lady of Pain definitely has god-like powers, so it is possible that she might be able to prevent the faithful from ascending to their gods' home plane.
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*** Worship of any god is forbidden in Sigil. Wouldn't an of the truly faithful get mazed or impaled (or whatever the Lady of Pain has in store for them) before they had the chance to go to their respective gods?
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*** Worship of any god is forbidden in Sigil. Wouldn't an of the truly faithful get mazed or impaled (or whatever the Lady of Pain has in store for them) before they had the chance to go to their respective gods? The Lady of Pain definitely has god-like powers, so it is possible that she might be able to prevent the faithful from ascending to their gods' home plane.
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** Worship of any god is forbidden in Sigil. Wouldn't an of the truly faithful get mazed or impaled (or whatever the Lady of Pain has in store for them) before they had the chance to go to their respective gods?
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** Worship of any god is forbidden in Sigil. Wouldn't an of the truly faithful get mazed or impaled (or whatever the Lady of Pain has in store for them) before they had the chance to go to their respective gods?
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*** Besides, he entered hell with his "all-knowing" journal, even though he discarded it.
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** It's a poetic way of saying that anything that is sincerely believed in can change the nature of a man.
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* Could possibly be [[JustifiedTrope justified]] in that most of the game takes place in the Hive and the Lower Ward, which are the two poorest wards in Sigil. Historically, swords were a weapon associated with nobility and the like. Remember that copper commons are the standard currency here and not gold.
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**** SO Trias is a LawfulGood being but has been twisted into evil due to [[KnightTemplar higher goal]], Ravel is Chaotic but is fiercely loyal to the (idea) of the Nameless One, and XXXX is evil but does good because of.... Why? and Who? Help me here, I have pondered this question for like a decade. Or maybe it is Fhjull, a extra-planar who does "good" (e.g. help you) because of a curse. But that is a let-down, so [[MythBusters lets ignore that reality and replace it with our own!]] Wait, Pharod loved his daughter and love is a un-evil act. Throw me a bone here!
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**** SO Trias is a LawfulGood being but has been twisted into evil due to [[KnightTemplar higher goal]], Ravel is Chaotic but is fiercely loyal to the (idea) of the Nameless One, and XXXX is evil but does good because of.... Why? and Who? Help me here, I have pondered this question for like a decade. Or maybe it is Fhjull, a extra-planar who does "good" (e.g. help you) because of a curse. But that is a let-down, so [[MythBusters [[Series/MythBusters lets ignore that reality and replace it with our own!]] Wait, Pharod loved his daughter and love is a un-evil act. Throw me a bone here!
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* Whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. Who is the 'you' in that sentence? Anyone at all, another way of saying '''anything''' can change it? The man to be changed, such that whether an experience can change him depends on his beliefs, on his attitude going into it? Or just belief itself is the answer.
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* Whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. Who is the 'you' in that sentence? Anyone at all, another way of saying '''anything''' can change it? The man to be changed, such that whether an experience can change him depends on his beliefs, on his attitude going into it? Or just belief itself is the answer.it?
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* Whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. Who is the 'you' in that sentence? Anyone at all, another way of saying '''anything''' can change it? The man to be changed, such that whether an experience can change him depends on his beliefs, on his attitude going into it? Or just belief itself is the answer.
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* Whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. Who is the 'you' in that sentence? Anyone at all, another way of saying '''anything''' can change it? The man to be changed, such that whether an experience can change him depends on his beliefs, on his attitude going into it? Or just belief itself is the answer.
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** It's also a staple of fighters that don't suck. Well before Caster Edition, mage characters are much more effective.
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* You also can't Raise outsiders. Maybe it's because she lives in Sigil, maybe it's because of her beliefs, but Fall-From-Grace seems to live and die like a mortal.
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** I think it works like this: TNO spreads the belief that a person named Adhan exists by introducing himself with that name. When enough people believe that, Adhan really comes into being.
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** Fall-From-Grace is very kind to ''you'', but she's also demonstrably willing to deal with all variety of terrible beings without any indication of moral disgust. There's no indication that she has any interest in performing compassionate acts for people she doesn't know and like personally.
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** Fall-From-Grace is very kind to ''you'', but she's also demonstrably willing to deal with all variety of terrible beings without any indication hint of moral disgust. There's no indication that she has any interest in performing compassionate acts for people she doesn't know and like personally.
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** Fall-From-Grace is very kind to ''you'', but she's also demonstrably willing to deal with all variety of terrible beings without any indication of moral disgust. There's no indication that she has any interest in performing compassionate acts for people she doesn't know and like personally.
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After playing ''Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer'' begs me the question. There are many nay-theists in the Planescape Setting. Will they suffer the same fate as nay theists in the ''Forgotten Realms''?
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