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** Marinette for me did nothing wrong, in this episode.
** Even Marinette disagrees. It was wrong.
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* According to the flashback sequence in "Derision", Chloe bullied Marinette relentlessly before Season 1 with Socqueline being the only person the latter was close to. Marinette's parents were aware of this, so why would they keep their daughter in that school and let her get bullied like that? Why couldn't they just move schools so Chloe couldn't bully her anymore?
** They'd need to get Damocles to approve of the paperwork for that. You really think Chloe is going to let Marinette transfer and lose her favourite punching bag? No, she'd threaten Damocles with her father's wrath and he'd cave like he always did.

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* According to the flashback sequence in "Derision", Chloe Chloé bullied Marinette relentlessly before Season 1 with Socqueline being the only person the latter was close to. Marinette's parents were aware of this, so why would they keep their daughter in that school and let her get bullied like that? Why couldn't they just move schools so Chloe Chloé couldn't bully her anymore?
** They'd need to get Damocles to approve of the paperwork for that. You really think Chloe Chloé is going to let Marinette transfer and lose her favourite punching bag? No, she'd threaten Damocles with her father's wrath and he'd cave like he always did.
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** They'd need to get Damocles to approve of the paperwork for that. You really think Chloe is going to let Marinette transfer and lose her favourite punching bag? No, she'd threaten Damocles with her father's wrath and he'd cave like he always did.
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* According to the flashback sequence in "Derision", Chloe bullied Marinette relentlessly before Season 1 with Socqueline being the only person the latter was close to. Marinette's parents were aware of this, so why would they keep their daughter in that school and let her get bullied like that? Why couldn't they just move schools so Chloe couldn't bully her anymore?
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**** That would be the Alliance that none of the three wear. Kind of hard to track an invisible target on a map. And to go back to the original point, Monarch's powers only extended to space because of Voyage. As shown in Startrain, the usual limit is within the city of Paris, with him losing contact with an Akuma that went as far as partway down the English Channel. Simply put, he would have to constantly be trying to track him down as Monarch (which would be a waste of time he doesn't have) and has no means to actually track him as Gabriel Agreste.
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** Lila did a lot more than one wrong, but point taken.
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* Speaking of Cat Blanc; the whole episode is due to a case of ForWantOfANail. Hawk Moth may be afraid that this will cause unpredictable events. [[labelnote:Note]] Maybe he knows it because at some point, he gave someone time travel powers, and the changes in the past [[FridgeHorror have the unwanted effect of leaving Emilie in a coma.]] [[/labelnote]]. Alternatively, it may simply be due to a series of events and it may be difficult to bring her back by making just one change.

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* Speaking of Cat Blanc; the whole episode is due to a case of ForWantOfANail.for-want-of-a-nail. Hawk Moth may be afraid that this will cause unpredictable events. [[labelnote:Note]] Maybe he knows it because at some point, he gave someone time travel powers, and the changes in the past [[FridgeHorror have the unwanted effect of leaving Emilie in a coma.]] [[/labelnote]]. Alternatively, it may simply be due to a series of events and it may be difficult to bring her back by making just one change.



** It may be that in the time elapsed in the original timeline there were one or more events that made it go further and further, [[ForWantOfANail but by changing the history the event/s were eliminated]].

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* One of the big questions about the Miraculous is how nobody recognizes the Miraculous holders even though it should be obvious who is who. In Carapace's debut he gives away his identity to Alya [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay through a slip of the tongue]], and in Reflekdoll both Ladybug and Cat Noir are able to identify their partner in the alternate powers. Even Hawk Moth was able to figure out that the two had swapped, although he did have the benefit of them explicitly saying it. In Kwamibuster, Adrien (correctly) identifies that Ladybug has changed her Miraculous, before she lies and convinces him they are two different people.
However, in Miracle Queen, Ladybug doesn't recognize the similarities between Snake Noir and Aspik, when the two faces look almost identical. To further complicate things, Cat Noir doesn't recognize Scarabella as Rena Rouge, like in any other episode where someone gains a new Miraculous. Even worse, ''Shadow Moth'' doesn't recognize her as Scarabella even though he should have been able to see it. So what exactly are the rules surrounding Quantum Masking?

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* One of the big questions about the Miraculous is how nobody recognizes the Miraculous holders even though it should be obvious who is who. In Carapace's debut he gives away his identity to Alya [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay through a slip of the tongue]], and in Reflekdoll both Ladybug and Cat Noir are able to identify their partner in the alternate powers. Even Hawk Moth was able to figure out that the two had swapped, although he did have the benefit of them explicitly saying it. In Kwamibuster, Adrien (correctly) identifies that Ladybug has changed her Miraculous, before she lies and convinces him they are two different people.
people. However, in Miracle Queen, Ladybug doesn't recognize the similarities between Snake Noir and Aspik, when the two faces look almost identical. To further complicate things, Cat Noir doesn't recognize Scarabella as Rena Rouge, like in any other episode where someone gains a new Miraculous. Even worse, ''Shadow Moth'' doesn't recognize her as Scarabella even though he should have been able to see it. So what exactly are the rules surrounding Quantum Masking?
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* Season 5 implies that Lila may have lied about being Italian as well.

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* ** Season 5 implies that Lila may have lied about being Italian as well.



One of the big questions about the Miraculous is how nobody recognizes the Miraculous holders even though it should be obvious who is who. In Carapace's debut he gives away his identity to Alya [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay through a slip of the tongue]], and in Reflekdoll both Ladybug and Cat Noir are able to identify their partner in the alternate powers. Even Hawk Moth was able to figure out that the two had swapped, although he did have the benefit of them explicitly saying it. In Kwamibuster, Adrien (correctly) identifies that Ladybug has changed her Miraculous, before she lies and convinces him they are two different people.

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One *One of the big questions about the Miraculous is how nobody recognizes the Miraculous holders even though it should be obvious who is who. In Carapace's debut he gives away his identity to Alya [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay through a slip of the tongue]], and in Reflekdoll both Ladybug and Cat Noir are able to identify their partner in the alternate powers. Even Hawk Moth was able to figure out that the two had swapped, although he did have the benefit of them explicitly saying it. In Kwamibuster, Adrien (correctly) identifies that Ladybug has changed her Miraculous, before she lies and convinces him they are two different people.



* The rules seem borderline shaky and not set in stone. It's possible they're led by beliefs (Adrien expected Ladybug to be back, necessitating a lie, while Shadow Moth expected a new hero again since Rena would be out of the question for him). Additionally, Ladybug only saw Aspik for a few seconds before he gave his Miraculous and was too focused on Adrien clouding her judgment instead. The only consistent bit is "it makes people knowing it's you harder by any means but not impossible".
* It's worse than that when you watch early episodes. I just watched S1 E7 and Ayla points out that Adrien looks a lot like Cat Noir which means they don't look too different or that's just early installment stuff which happens from time to time shows where they aren't really sure what they are doing.

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* ** The rules seem borderline shaky and not set in stone. It's possible they're led by beliefs (Adrien expected Ladybug to be back, necessitating a lie, while Shadow Moth expected a new hero again since Rena would be out of the question for him). Additionally, Ladybug only saw Aspik for a few seconds before he gave his Miraculous and was too focused on Adrien clouding her judgment instead. The only consistent bit is "it makes people knowing it's you harder by any means but not impossible".
* ** It's worse than that when you watch early episodes. I just watched S1 E7 and Ayla points out that Adrien looks a lot like Cat Noir which means they don't look too different or that's just early installment stuff which happens from time to time shows where they aren't really sure what they are doing.
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* The best option would be Amelie since she seems to be his only living blood relative who is a guardian (to be his aunt), but she could very well get custody of him and hire Nathalie to be his guardian in France (it would not be strange since Nathalie is an old family friend and is more than qualified to care for Adrien).

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* ** The best option would be Amelie since she seems to be his only living blood relative who is a guardian (to be his aunt), but she could very well get custody of him and hire Nathalie to be his guardian in France (it would not be strange since Nathalie is an old family friend and is more than qualified to care for Adrien).
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*** Alliance is pretty much ''the'' solution to the whole "check out every lead before you chase it down" problem of hunting Stone & Son, but yeah, Gabriel was far too gone down his own rabbit hole of crazy obsession by that point to think of using his AI assistant that's connected to millions of other AI assistants worldwide. Sigh...
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** Penny seems to have a good head on her shoulders, odds are that she and Luka can figure out ways of making Jagged more discrete. It's not a solution to Monarch knowing that Luka knows Ladybug's identity, but it at least buys them time to be constantly on the move so Monarch won't necessarily know where they'll be. Especially if Jagged has announced he's quitting as a rockstar, there's no telling where he would go to next after abandoning his career overnight. Rockstar lookalikes and loony fans also exist all over the place (just ask Vincent Asa, or for a non-rocker example, Wayhem for Adrien), Monarch would have to scout out every possible network, compare every possible photographic evidence to make sure he's not following a hoax and even by then, he has too little time on his hands (literally due to the Cataclysm) to chase down one boy who knows Ladybug and Cat Noir's identities over actually trying to get their Miraclouses.
** In the eventuality he ''did'' catch Luka at some point, he'd be resilient and knowledgeable enough to find a way to alert Marinette and Adrien, given his proficiency with the Snake compared to Monarch's continuous mistakes. It'd give Ladybug and Cat Noir enough time to either show up to the rescue, or just decide to relocate away from Paris in a hidden location once their identities have been compromised (or even undergo new identities but stick around for their own purposes if that doesn't work out, much like Cerise has been doing for quite some time). If Monarch did get the truth out of him before he could send a distress call, then the heroes would effectively be in hot waters, but luckily for them, the show never went there and Monarch was too busy with "Perfect Alliance" to try and track Luka down before he met Su-Han.
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* "Migration" ends with Luka leaving, ostensibly to stop Monarch from targeting him to learn the heroes' identities. Except...''how'' does this help? (Aside from CleaningUpRomanticLooseEnds) The ''Shadybug'' special says he's got a limit to how far his powers work, but "Intuition" proves his powers extend ''to space'' so that "limit" is quite a distance. He's also traveling with his father, AKA super-famous rock star Jagged Stone. Y'know, someone loony fans will have some sort of dedicated "Stone Spotting" page set up for to track him. Luka learned his father's identity while akumatized, so it's likely Monarch knows it as well. Find Jagged, find Jagged Jr, and then they're far enough away that Ladybug may just ''not know'' Monarch is targeting them again, and may not be able to get there in time (even Astrobug and Astrocat aren't instantaneous transport like Kaalki).
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** Going by some of fan art I saw floating around Website/{{Pixiv}}, I think it did, however, probably on certain outlets.

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** Going by some of fan art I saw floating around Website/{{Pixiv}}, Platform/{{Pixiv}}, I think it did, however, probably on certain outlets.
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* the best option would be amelie since she seems to be his only living blood relative who is a guardian(to be his aunt),but she could very well get custody of him and hire nathaliel to be his guardian in france(it would not be strange since nathaliel is an old family friend and is more than qualified to care for adrien).

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* the The best option would be amelie Amelie since she seems to be his only living blood relative who is a guardian(to guardian (to be his aunt),but aunt), but she could very well get custody of him and hire nathaliel Nathalie to be his guardian in france(it France (it would not be strange since nathaliel Nathalie is an old family friend and is more than qualified to care for adrien).Adrien).
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* the best option would be amelie since she seems to be his only living blood relative who is a guardian(to be his aunt),but she could very well get custody of him and hire nathaliel to be his guardian in france(it would not be strange since nathaliel is an old family friend and is more than qualified to care for adrien).
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** "Representation" confirms that an infertile Emilie did use the damaged Peacock in order to conceive Adrien and that Colt Fathom used it to allow a similarly infertile Amelie to conceive Felix. It took more than a dozen years for their injuries to become life-threatening while Nathalie was bedridden and near death after only a few months. Possibly the damage is cumulative and Nathalie declined much faster due to multiple uses while the first two only used it once.

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** "Representation" confirms that an infertile Emilie did use the damaged Peacock in order to conceive Adrien and that Colt Fathom used it to allow a similarly infertile Amelie to conceive Felix.Félix. It took more than a dozen years for their injuries to become life-threatening while Nathalie was bedridden and near death after only a few months. Possibly the damage is cumulative and Nathalie declined much faster due to multiple uses while the first two only used it once.



* I don’t know how French child custody laws work but now that it’s been confirmed Gabriel and Emilie are TogetherInDeath, who will be Adrien’s guardian? Will Amelia and Felix move to Paris to take care of him? Will they work out something with Nathalie so that Nathalie can be his legal guardian? Will he be legally emancipated? (Is that a thing in France?)

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* I don’t know how French child custody laws work but now that it’s been confirmed Gabriel and Emilie are TogetherInDeath, who will be Adrien’s guardian? Will Amelia and Felix Félix move to Paris to take care of him? Will they work out something with Nathalie so that Nathalie can be his legal guardian? Will he be legally emancipated? (Is that a thing in France?)

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