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** I reminds us that she died because he is ''[=OO7=]''.
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*** The SPECTRE in the films is usually credited to the screenwriter who originally adapted ''Thunderball'' (which was remade as ''Never Say Never Again''), and the producers chose to quit using it. Even as indicated below, we see the death of Blofeld who is not referred to by name in the film (For Your Eyes Only), nor is SPECTRE mentioned.
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* I must voice several complaints about ''Dr. No.''
** Who in their right mind would work in a place with lighted signs saying '''ABANDON AREA'''?? I imagine Dr. No's insurance is insane.
** After Dr. No dies and the mooks have all ran off, why doesn't Bond just turn the reactor off and call in the Marines? Seriously.
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** I think people would have gone to a cliff and jumped off had the Armstrong song been played. That theme is not cheery.
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** At least in ''Thunderball'', they have a reason for being cautious about killing Bond at first. If Largo just snuffs him out early, it will result in a big, shiny "NUKES ARE HERE" sign. That's why Volpe is trying to kill him quietly, without drawing too much attention, at least until the point where Bond is spotted infiltrating the mansion and they switch over to "Bond must die" mode.
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*** The moment someone challenges Blofield, they learn why you do not challenge Blofield. Generally, right before they die horribly.
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* The ending of OnHerMajestysSecretService. Well, not the ending per se, but why the hell did they have to play the cheery James Bond theme right after the biggest tear jerker of the entire franchise? It's so annoying and kills all the emotion in that scene. Why didn't the just use Louis Armstrong's "We have all the time in the world"? That would have been perfect for that ending.
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*** Bond isn't an SIS agent. He's an MI6 agent. In whatever universe Bond takes place in, MI6 never fell into official disuse.
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* FYI, in real life the term MI6 (Military Intelligence Section Six) had fallen into official disuse after World War II. So when will the show use the current official name of British foreign intelligence, that is Secret Intelligence Service (SIS)? I thought that, since the series has been rebooted, the writers will finally use SIS instead of MI6.
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* FYI, in real life the term MI6 (Military Intelligence Section Six) had fallen into official disuse after World War II.I. So when will the show use the current official name of British foreign intelligence, that is Secret Intelligence Service (SIS)? I thought that, since the series has been rebooted, the writers will finally use SIS instead of MI6.
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*** Fair point. But the thing is, James Bond and M are SIS agent themselves. They should refer their own service correctly, yes? Bond saying that he's MI6 is like CIA Director saying that he works for OSS.
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** They'll keep using [=MI6=] because that's the organization that James Bond has been working for in the public consciousness for the last 50 years.
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*** This troper has always thought that casting Sean Connery as a DangerouslyGenreSavvy Bond villain who actually ''wins'' (or at least comes out ahead) would be the greatest spy thriller movie ever made.
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Someone has deleted my question before. Please tell me which part of this question that is not legit.
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*** Plus, the only two people who know what actually happened between Grant and Bond are Grant and Bond. Since Grant is dead and Bond isn't going to tell them what happened, all they have to go on is guesswork. It's noted that Grant was their top field agent, so what could have happened? Kronsteen's elaborate plan screwed it up somehow.
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*** He was probably just sick of Kronsteen's smugness and egotistical boasting and Bond still being alive was a good excuse to shut him up. I know I was.
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*** On the same theme, in 'From Russia With Love' both Rosa Klebb and Kronsteen try to shift blame for the plan to kill Bond failing. Blofeld decides to kill Kronsteen as punishment for the plan failing. However, as far as I can see, the plan worked perfectly, Bond was unaware of what was going on, they had the film of him and Tatania as well as the Lektor. The only flaw in the plan was that the agent hired to carry out the assasination was a total psycho who wanted to see Bond crawl for mercy rather than just shoot him and make it look like suicide...and the choice of agent was entirely Klebb's responsibility. Is Blofeld the worst judge of performance or what?
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* Well its Blofeld Maybe his minions still have respect for him even after all the stuff ups he has caused.
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*** That explanation occurred to me, but it opens up another question: why doesn't anyone challenge Blofeld's leading position when he repeatedly fails against the same person and brushes aside the rules he himself has set? Then again, maybe they did, and it contributed to SPECTRE's downfall, which is speculated above.
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** He's the boss. DoubleStandard, perhaps.
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- 1 answered #2 and #3 so what bugs you?
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** After Blofeld's death in ''ForYourEyesOnly'', in which the organisation was already suffering (Blofeld's scheme involved one mook and a remote control operated by him), it collapsed entirely. The surviving members that wanted to carry on formed a new super secret evil organsisation. organisation. It's name? [[spoiler:QUANTUM.]]QUANTUM.
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* "SPECTRE does not tolerate failure." Then pray tell, how come after Bond has foiled ''two'' plans Blofeld was personally overseeing, he is still in the position to be running a project that involves SPECTRE's own ''satellite''?
** He's the boss. DoubleStandard, perhaps.
* This troper wonders when will the series use the official name of British foreign intelligence, SIS (Secret Intelligence Service), instead of MI6 (Military Intelligence Section 7), which fell into official disuse years ago, according to SIS official website...
* Moonraker: The entire film. A complete abortion and a sacrilege. Worst Bond film EVER.
** He's the boss. DoubleStandard, perhaps.
* This troper wonders when will the series use the official name of British foreign intelligence, SIS (Secret Intelligence Service), instead of MI6 (Military Intelligence Section 7), which fell into official disuse years ago, according to SIS official website...
* Moonraker: The entire film. A complete abortion and a sacrilege. Worst Bond film EVER.
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** He's the boss. DoubleStandard, perhaps.
* This troper wonders when will the series use the official name of British foreign intelligence, SIS (Secret Intelligence Service), instead of MI6 (Military Intelligence Section 7), which fell into official disuse years ago, according to SIS official website...
* Moonraker: The entire film. A complete abortion and a sacrilege. Worst Bond film EVER.
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** Aside from ''TomorrowNeverDies'', when he runs into his old flame who is now dating the villain? And it's a major plot point because it blows his cover and gets her killed?
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** He's the boss. DoubleStandard, perhaps.
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* This troper wonders when will the series use the official name of British foreign intelligence, SIS (Secret Intelligence Service), instead of MI6 (Military Intelligence Section 7), which fell into official disuse years ago, according to SIS official website...
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* "SPECTRE does not tolerate failure." Then pray tell, how come after Bond has foiled ''two'' plans Blofeld was personally overseeing, he is still in the position to be running a project that involves SPECTRE's own ''satellite''?
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** In ''ForYourEyesOnly'', Bond dives underwater to meet Melina and update her on what he's learned about Cristatos. In returning to her ship, she removes her SCUBA tank and leaves it at the bottom of the ocean. Later in the film, it's available to save their lives. WHY WOULD SHE LEAVE IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
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**** Interestingly, so far as we know, Florida still exists in the Bond universe. Presumably, 006 was able to complete the mission and return the magnetic watch undamaged. Non-mutual-exclusion is a funny thing.
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** Most likely Thunderball & You Only Live Twice cost them a great deal of money, leading to collapse. Volcano bases and custom spaceships don't come cheap. In OHMSS, he's trying to get himself declared a Count, probably for some sort of inheritance. In Diamonds are Forever, he's using Willard Whyte's resources to finance his operation.
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** In the book its explained as 'There's so much bad blood here that whichever one he picks, the other one will try to MurderTheHypotenuse anyway, so might as well have the fight open and aboveboard and over with as quickly as possible'.
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* The stupidity of some of Bond's enemies is unbeleivable. In {{The World is Not Enough}}, Elektra King throws away a loaded gun instead of using it while she had the chance. Miranda Frost in {{Die Another Day}} had the perfect chance to behead Jinx and never took it. Christ! The aircraft has autopilot!
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** More likely it never works out because he's a professional killer that spends his life travelling around the world. The one time he ''did'' settle down, the woman was killed. Bond probably ends it either because he knows it won't work out or he's worried that they'll get hurt. Your choice which explanation he uses on which Bond Girls.
* The stupidity of some of Bond's enemies isunbeleivable. unbelievable. In {{The ''{{The World is Not Enough}}, Enough}}'', Elektra King throws away a loaded gun instead of using it while she had the chance. Miranda Frost in {{Die ''{{Die Another Day}} Day}}'' had the perfect chance to behead Jinx and never took it. Christ! The aircraft has autopilot!autopilot!
** VillainBall. Basically the villains can't be too capable, or Bond will fail. You end up in a situation where the villains are either too stupid to be a problem, or so smart you have them do something incredibly stupid to even the playing field.
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** VillainBall. Basically the villains can't be too capable, or Bond will fail. You end up in a situation where the villains are either too stupid to be a problem, or so smart you have them do something incredibly stupid to even the playing field.
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*** There's also that the girl in ''For Your Eyes Only'' might as well have "extremely high-maintenance" tattooed on her forehead. If there's one thing James Bond will not do, its high-maintenance girlfriends.
**** The other problem is she's still too young and there's no chemistry whatsoever between the two. Not to mention this troper picked up a daughter-surrogate father dynamic between them. I guess Bond has to have sex at least once in each film...
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*** Really? The Nolan movies have Commissioner Gordon and Alfred, despite the Alfred role being filled by Lucius Fox and the police not fully trusting Batman. Why? Because they are important character in the Batman mythos. Likewise, Q and Moneypenny are important characters in the Bond mythos. Who is supposed to give Bond his gadgets? Who is supposed to play a grandfather role to Bond? What other female can Bond strike a relationship with WITHOUT brooding and whining?
**** Bond doesn't get any gadgets in the Craig movies. If he has no gadgets, there's no use for Q. If they decide to give Bond gadgets in the next one, they'll introduce Q. As for Moneypenny, her absense made the Vesper plotline more plausible. With that plot all resolved, maybe we'll see her too. On the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_(film_series)#Future other wiki]], they say that if they find a place for these characters, the'll introduce them. We'll know by 2011.
**** Bond doesn't get any gadgets in the Craig movies. If he has no gadgets, there's no use for Q. If they decide to give Bond gadgets in the next one, they'll introduce Q. As for Moneypenny, her absense made the Vesper plotline more plausible. With that plot all resolved, maybe we'll see her too. On the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_(film_series)#Future other wiki]], they say that if they find a place for these characters, the'll introduce them. We'll know by 2011.
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*** Really? The Nolan movies have Commissioner Gordon and Alfred, despite the Alfred role being filled by Lucius Fox and the police not fully trusting Batman. Why? Because they are important character in the Batman mythos. Likewise, Q and and Moneypenny are important characters in the Bond mythos. Who is supposed to give Bond his gadgets? Who is supposed to play a grandfather role to to Bond? What other female can Bond strike a relationship with WITHOUT brooding and whining?
**** Bond doesn't get any gadgets in the Craig movies. If he has no gadgets, there's no use for Q. Q. If they decide to give Bond gadgets in the next one, they'll introduce Q. Q. As for Moneypenny, her absense absence made the Vesper plotline more plausible. plausible. With that plot all resolved, maybe we'll see her too. too. On the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_(film_series)#Future other wiki]], they say that if they find a place for these characters, the'll introduce them. We'll know by 2011.[[strike:2011]] [[strike:2012]] [[DevelopmentHell 2013]].
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He knows who Mathis is. He had just turned him in as a possible double agent.
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* What the hell happened to Spectre? One minute, they're a global power on par with the US and USSR. Then, they dissappear.disappear. Last we heard was when Bond killed Blofeld, but considering he always has a number two to replace him if he dies, why would that mean they just dissolve? Where the hell did they go?
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** He was probably wondering who "Mathis" was.
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