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** The thing about covert operations agencies is that they tend to perform operations covertly. Also, just because Finland isn't in NATO does not mean it isn't an ally of the US -- not all US allies are in NATO and that's not even what NATO is about. Besides, even if Finland did object, it's not about to go to war with the US over it. Most of the time when these things do happen, the "host" country puts out a statement of "disapproval" and leave it at that.
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** Yes, the CIA is an American operation, but it is a foreign intelligence agency and does most of its work outside of America. In fact, the CIA is near notorious for having "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_black_sites black sites]]" around the world.

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** Presumably to make it less likely for more [[LawfulGood White Hat]] elements in the government to unearth their work and compromise it.

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** Presumably to make it less likely for more [[LawfulGood White Hat]] Hat elements in the government to unearth their work and compromise it.
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* In "The Trial," we see how Marissa figured out that Hanna had gone to the Passway facility in Charleroi. But how in the devil did Marissa make her way into the Passway parking garage [[TheCavalry just in time]] to come to Hanna's rescue?

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* In "The Trial," we see how Marissa figured out that Hanna had gone to the Passway facility in Charleroi. But how in the devil did Marissa figure out that Hanna was in a running gun battle, and then make her way into the Passway executives' parking garage [[TheCavalry just in time]] to come to Hanna's rescue?
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* In "The Trial," we see how Marissa figured out that Hanna had gone to the Passway facility in Charleroi. But how in the devil did Marissa make her way into the Passway parking garage [[TheCavalry just in time]] to come to Hanna's rescue?
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* How on Earth can CIA send helicopters into Finland on a mission? Finland's not a NATO country, and the authorities would ''not'' look kindly at a foreign intelligence service violating the airspace, let alone carrying out an attempted assassination.
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* On a related note, the CIA super-soldier program was operating in Poland, and active 14+ years ago. In 1987 Poland was still a Warsaw Pact member with a Communist government. How exactly was the CIA running a top-secret research facility in Communist territory in the middle of the ColdWar?

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* On a related note, the CIA super-soldier program was operating in Poland, and active 14+ years ago. In 1987 Poland was still a Warsaw Pact member with a Communist government. How exactly was the CIA running a top-secret research facility in Communist territory in the middle of the ColdWar?UsefulNotes/ColdWar?
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* How did Hanna, her pursuers, ''and Sophie'' get into the container park? Those places have security fences.
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*** Then why did she fired her gun? Making that kind of sound is rather jarring when you are trying to stealthy escape.

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** Adding to that, how the hell did he survive that blizzard at the start in just a suit?
*** Joe Wright himself admitted that Erik walking out into a blizzard while only wearing a suit kinda ruined the believability of Erik's journey and admiteted that he should've at least stuck a fur coat on him.

* Kind of WhatHappenedToTheMouse - what happend to the technician uttering "God, help me" during Hanna's escape from Marocco base? If Hanna shoot him, why bother with ordering him to enter the locker? If she left him alive, why then she shoot at something? This keeps bugging me months after watching the film.

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** Adding to that, how the hell did he survive that blizzard at the start in just a suit?
*** Joe Wright himself admitted that Erik walking out into a blizzard while only wearing a suit that was kinda ruined the believability of Erik's journey unbelievable, and admiteted that he should've at least probably should have stuck a fur coat on him.

him or something.
** He didn't go all the way to Germany. He stopped somewhere in Denmark.

* Kind of WhatHappenedToTheMouse - what happend happened to the technician uttering "God, help me" during Hanna's escape from Marocco base? If Hanna shoot him, why bother with ordering him to enter the locker? If she left him alive, why then she shoot at something? This keeps bugging me months after watching the film.


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* Erik's last stand at the playground outside the apartments. Why did he spin the roundabout after killing the first hitman? Also, why did it spin afterwards even with the weight of both of their bodies?
** Probably because he didn't have time to check if the first guy was down before he had to face Isaacs, and he wanted to hinder the guy from getting up again in case he was still alive. And the roundabout could have been pushed by wind.

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* How the hell did Erik manage to (apparently) ''swim across the North Sea from Finland to Germany'', over thousands of miles of ice-cold water?

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* How the hell did Erik manage to (apparently) ''swim across the North Sea from Finland to Germany'', over thousands of miles of ice-cold water? water?



*** The Director himself admits that Erik walking out into a Blizzard while only wearing a suit kinda ruins the believability of the movie and admits that he should've at least stuck a fur coat on him.

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*** The Director Joe Wright himself admits admitted that Erik walking out into a Blizzard blizzard while only wearing a suit kinda ruins ruined the believability of the movie Erik's journey and admits admiteted that he should've at least stuck a fur coat on him.




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** Whether or not she killed him was probably meant to be ambiguous.




* How on earth are the CIA able to mount a special forces operation in Finland? Finland is not a NATO country and the Finnish authorities would not look kindly on American special ops conducting an attempted assassination on their soil.

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\n* How on earth are the CIA able to mount a special forces operation in Finland? Finland ** Hanna is a platinum blonde, not a NATO country and the Finnish authorities would not look kindly on American special ops conducting an attempted assassination on their soil. albino.
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* Kind of WhatHappenedToTheMouse - what happend to the technician uttering "God, help me" during Hanna's escape from Marocco base? If Hanna shoot him, why bother with ordering him to enter the locker? If she left him alive, why then she shoot at something? This keeps bugging me months after watching the film.
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* How on earth are the CIA able to mount a special forces operation in Finland? Finland is not a NATO country and the Finnish authorities would not look kindly on American special ops conducting an attempted assassination on their soil.
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** Erik was established to have gone off the map in 1994 and to have been framed for Johanna's murder in 1996, both many years after Poland ceased being Communist
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** Marissa asks Erik this question when they meet in Berlin, and his answer is, "kids grow up". Based on the beginning of the movie, it's pretty obvious that now that Hanna is becoming an adult, she wants more out of life than living in the woods and never meeting anyone, and Erik realizes this. That's why he gives her the chance to leave. However, this raises a further question: since the CIA doesn't know what Hanna looks like now that she's grown up, nor do they know where in the world she is, why not just set up a false identity for her and not get Marissa involved with her at all? Even if they couldn't do this in Finland (every Finn has a unique identity number, which is required for setting up a bank account, renting an apartment, visiting the hospital, etc; so starting a life in Finland without one would be quite difficult), surely they could travel to some other country so Hanna could start a life there. (This seems to have been how the clown guy in Berlin was supposed to help Hanna, as he had a blank passport for her.) It's not like the CIA was gonna do random DNA tests to all blonde teenagers across the world, just in case they might catch Hanna. And, if Erik wanted Marissa dead so there would absolutely no knowledge of Hanna's true identity left, why didn't he kill Marissa herself? Why get Hanna involved in that?









* Was Hanna being albinoid ever confirmed by WordOfGod, or is it just {{Fanon}}?

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* Was Hanna being albinoid ever confirmed by WordOfGod, or is it just {{Fanon}}?{{Fanon}}?
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* How could Erik possibly consider Hanna "ready" to go after Marissa? All she knows of the world outside of the forest is what she got from an encyclopedia! Would it really have been so dangerous to take her to cities every now and then so she would at least have SOME idea of what was waiting for her? Even if the CIA has eyes and ears all over the world, they can't be everywhere at once.

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* How could Erik possibly consider Hanna "ready" to go after Marissa? All she knows of the world outside of the forest is what she got from an encyclopedia! Would it really have been so dangerous to take her to cities every now and then so she would at least have SOME idea of what was waiting for her? Even if the CIA has eyes and ears all over the world, they can't be everywhere at once.once.
* Was Hanna being albinoid ever confirmed by WordOfGod, or is it just {{Fanon}}?
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*** The Director himself admits that Erik walking out into a Blizzard while only wearing a suit kinda ruins the believability of the movie and admits that he should've at least stuck a fur coat on him.

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*** The Director himself admits that Erik walking out into a Blizzard while only wearing a suit kinda ruins the believability of the movie and admits that he should've at least stuck a fur coat on him.him.
* How could Erik possibly consider Hanna "ready" to go after Marissa? All she knows of the world outside of the forest is what she got from an encyclopedia! Would it really have been so dangerous to take her to cities every now and then so she would at least have SOME idea of what was waiting for her? Even if the CIA has eyes and ears all over the world, they can't be everywhere at once.

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* How the hell did Erik manage to (apparently) ''swim across the North Sea from Finland to Germany'', over thousands of miles of ice-cold water?
** Adding to that, how the hell did he survive that blizzard at the start in just a suit?

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* How the hell did Erik manage to (apparently) ''swim across the North Sea from Finland to Germany'', over thousands of miles of ice-cold water?
water?
** Adding to that, how the hell did he survive that blizzard at the start in just a suit?suit?
*** The Director himself admits that Erik walking out into a Blizzard while only wearing a suit kinda ruins the believability of the movie and admits that he should've at least stuck a fur coat on him.
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** The original script has Hanna sending Sophie a postcard at the end, so if you want to go with the happiest ending possible, there it is.
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** A deleted scene establishes that she had to ask for help with the computer, and was shown how to search. This troper basically assumes that scene is still canon.
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* How the hell did Erik manage to (apparently) ''swim across the North Sea from Finland to Germany'', over thousands of miles of ice-cold water?

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* How the hell did Erik manage to (apparently) ''swim across the North Sea from Finland to Germany'', over thousands of miles of ice-cold water?water?
** Adding to that, how the hell did he survive that blizzard at the start in just a suit?
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** A (German) poster later in the says they are missing, so we can assume it was nothing good.

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** A (German) poster later in the says they are missing, so we can assume it was nothing good.good.
* How the hell did Erik manage to (apparently) ''swim across the North Sea from Finland to Germany'', over thousands of miles of ice-cold water?
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** 2011 - 14 = 1997 duh.

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