History Headscratchers / FinalDestination5

** It's electric so has to be plugged in somewhere.

** No because all of the people who he indirectly killed were meant to die from the begining. If he hadn't done that they would have died in some other way.

*** Not necessarily the case. 2 established that people surviving what was their pre-determined death messes up death's grand design. It can mess up when people are suppose to die (as seen with the cast of 2), cause other deaths to happen to people who were not planned (the teacher that was killed in place of Eugene) and stall deaths that were supposed to happen (as seen with Brian). Peter trying to kill Molly would not add her to his list since he was never supposed to kill her, he was supposed to have died during the first event and she was destined to die on 180. It's why killing someone who isn't supposed to die works because you are trading spots basically. A person who should be dead but is alive is taking the place of a person who should be alive but is dead.

* So if killing someone means you get their years of life, does that mean that the guy who left the metal whatzit on the racecar from ''4'' should've survived the speedway disaster, and proceeded to live for centuries afterward? He's inadvertently responsible for dozens of deaths, after all.

*** Or maybe the bit of bridge that Molly was standing on was destined to collapse under ''her'', too. The vision just neglected to show that part, because she'd have died ''after'' Sam.

** Simplest explanation? Nobody "put" Molly on Death's list. Pre-premonition, a bereaved Molly arranged a solo trip to Paris in tribute to her late boyfriend's dream of studying there, only to die on Flight 180.

** Simplest explanation? Nobody "put" Molly on Death's list. Pre-premonition, Molly would've flown to Paris in tribute to her recently-deceased boyfriend Sam's dream of studying there, and died on Flight 180.

** Simplest explanation? Nobody "put" Molly on Death's list. Pre-premonition, Molly would've flown to Paris in memory of her dead fiancee's dream of studying there, and died on Flight 180.

*** Not necessarily the case. 2 established that people surviving what was their pre-determined death messes up death's grand design. It can mess up when people are suppose to die (as seen with the cast of 2), cause other deaths to happen to people who were not planned (the teacher that was killed in place of Eugene) and stall deaths that were supposed to happen (as seen with Brian). Peter trying to kill Molly would not add her to his list since he was never supposed to kill her, he was supposed to have died during the first event and she was destined to die on 180. It's why killing someone who isn't supposed to die works because you are trading spots basically. A person who should be dead but is alive is taking the place of a person who should be alive but is dead.

*** People can't put other people on Death's list or take them off. Only Death can do that. People CAN change the circumstances leading to another person's death, however. The ripple effect caused by the survivors of the North Bay Bridge collapse might have changed Death's design. And as part of Death's new design, it could decide to use Peter as its agent. But the only way Molly dying makes sense is if she was "marked" to die either on the day of the skirmish at the restaurant -- or on Flight 180 -- from the very beginning.

*** People can't put other people on Death's list or take them off. Only Death can do that. People CAN change the circumstances leading to another person's death, however. The only way Molly dying makes sense is if Molly was marked to die from the very beginning. The ripple effect caused by the survivors of the North Bay Bridge collapse might changed Death's design. And as part of Death's new design, it could decide to use Peter as its agent. But the only way Molly dying makes sense is if she was meant to die either on the day of the skirmish at the restaurant -- or on Flight 180 -- from the very beginning.

*** People can't put other people on Death's list or take them off. Only Death can do that. People CAN change the circumstances leading to another person's death, however. So the only way this makes sense is if Molly was marked to die from the very beginning. The ripple effect caused by the survivors of the North Bay Bridge collapse changed Death's design. And as part of Death's new design, it decided to use Peter as its agent. But the only way Molly dying makes sense is if she was meant to day either on the day of the skirmish at the restaurant --- or on Flight 180 --- from the very beginning.

*** Incorrect - Molly was supposed to have survived the bridge collapse and die in the kitchen - that was part of Death's design; Sam has the vision, everyone escapes; Death picks them off one by one, Peter goes crazy and kills Molly to "steal" her remaining days, which is ''always'' supposed to happen. But, unfortunately, Sam interferes and saves Molly and kills Peter, thus letting Molly "skip" her death in the kitchen and be "marked" to die - she ends up on Death's list. Cue plane explosion!

*** Incorrect - Molly was supposed to have survived the bridge collapse and die in the kitchen - that was part of Death's design; Sam has the vision, everyone escapes; Death picks them off one by one, Peter goes crazy and kills Molly to "steal" her remaining days, but ''because'' he's trying to do that, he switches himself with her - she was meant to die in the kitchen at Peter's hand, but didn't because Peter died ''instead'' of her at Sam's hand - Death doesn't care; a soul is a soul - but Molly, who has escaped Death, is marked for it now. Cue plane explosion!

** Molly and Block could have been fated to die countless different ways on May 13th 2000 (or before it). Molly might have originally flown to Paris to scatter Sam's ashes, or could have chosen that day to commit suicide over the loss of her colleagues. Likewise, maybe Block was meant to be crushed by landing gear in the way Nathan was, or die in a police shootout ala Officer Burke's original death. For all we know, Molly might have slipped off the bridge the second Sam's premonition ended, meaning she was actually on Death's list the entire movie. What the movie really drives home is that anyone can lapse onto Death's list, at any time, and not even know it.

** 1. That was never established anywhere. 2. Peter was never supposed to be alive to kill Molly in the first place.

** Molly and Block could have been fated to die countless different ways on May 13th 2000 (or before it). Molly might have originally flown to Paris to scatter Sam's ashes, or could have chosen that day to commit suicide over the loss of her colleagues. Likewise, maybe Block was meant to be crushed by landing gear in the way Nathan was, or die in a police shootout ala Officer Burke's original death. For all we know, Molly might have slipped off the bridge the second Sam's premonition ended, meaning she was actually on Death's list the entire movie. What the movie really drives home is that anyone can lapse onto Death's list at any time and not even know it.

** Molly and Block could have been fated to die countless different ways on May 13th 2000 (or before it). Molly might have been originally flown to Paris to scatter Sam's ashes, or could have chosen that day to commit suicide over the loss of her colleagues. Likewise, maybe Block was meant to be crushed by landing gear in the way Nathan was, or die in a police shootout ala Officer Burke's original death. For all we know, Molly might have slipped off the bridge the second Sam's premonition ended, meaning she was actually on Death's list the entire movie. What the movie really drives home is that anyone can lapse onto Death's list at any time and not even know it.

** Molly and Block could have been fated to die countless different ways on May 13th 2000 (or before it). Molly might have been originally flown to Paris to scatter Sam's ashes, or could have chosen that day to commit suicide over the loss of her colleagues. Likewise, maybe Block was meant to be crushed by landing gear in the way Nathan was, or die in a police shootout ala Officer Burke's original death. For all we know, Molly might have slipped off the bridge the second Sam's premonition ends, meaning she was actually on Death's list the entire movie. What the movie really drives home is that anyone can lapse onto Death's list at any time and not even know it.

Why do Sam and Molly die at the end of the film? Molly never died in Sam's premonition and Sam theoretically should have gotten Agent Block's remaining lifespan when he killed Peter. So unless Molly and Agent Block were always meant to die on Flight 180 from the very beginning, Molly and Sam dying on Flight 180 makes no sense.
* This relies on some logic established in ''Final Destination 2''. That movie posited that if a person marked by Death saves the life of someone who wasn't marked, that person becomes marked as well. So when Sam (marked) saved Molly (unmarked) from Peter, he added her to Death's list.

* Maybe stolen life only transfers once, which would mean Sam didn't get Agent Block's stolen lifespan when he killed Peter. And yes, Molly was most likely set to die either on Flight 180 or in some other way at the same time. Her death doesn't have to make sense---people die all the time.
** Well actually Sam surviving the accident would mean that Molly didn't go to Paris, so she wasn't planned to die on the plane originally. But Sam surviving meant that she got on the plane.
*** It has been demonstrated multiple times (all the bullets in Thomas Burke's gun being duds when Eugene Dix tried to shoot himself, the falling tree branch knocking Burke out of the way of the barbed wire fence that was meant for Rory, etc) that if someone isn't meant to die at that time, death itself will intervene to save them. So if Molly wasn't meant to die on Flight 180, she would have ended up not boarding the plane, regardless of Sam surviving.

** Well actually Sam surviving the accident would mean that Molly didn't go to Paris, so she wasn't planned to die on the plane originally. But Sam surviving meant that she got on the plane.

* Maybe stolen life only transfers once, which would mean Sam didn't get Agent Block's stolen lifespan when he killed Peter. And yes, Molly was most likely set to die either on Flight 180 or in some other way at the same time. Her death doesn't have to make sense---people die all the time.

Why do Sam and Molly die at the end of the film? Molly never died in Sam's premonition and Sam theoretically should have gotten Agent Block's remaining lifespan when he killed Peter. So unless Molly and Agent Block were always meant to die on Flight 180 from the very beginning, Molly and Sam dying on Flight 180 makes no sense.