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** Do drowussu also have the potential to be empaths and if so how do their empaths compare to those in the Sullissin'rune clan? I think the world setting pages hinted that within Kyorl orders there may well be empaths but being fairly new to the comics (as of January this year) I don't know how canon this is.

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** She didn't actually "rip off" Nihi'liir's arm, the implication is that she [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=4903 possessed it]], which would be like an extension of [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=222 her healing powers]], and seeing as it's going blue she probably cut off the circulation to it or messed with the nerves. The way the teacher slumped down (notice the blood coming out of her eyes) means that she probably overloaded the circuitry in her brain, since the teacher grabbed her with both hands and presumably formed a closed circuit, while Nihi'liir was only in contact with her for a second.
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Do drowussu also have the potential to be empaths and if so how do their empaths compare to those in the Sullissin'rune clan? I think the world setting pages hinted that within Kyorl orders there may well be empaths but being fairly new to the comics (as of January this year) I don't know how canon this is.



** Also in relation to the above, it would be interesting to see a drow with both [[TheEmpath empathy]] and [[FaintingSeer seer]] in their bloodlines and how this would affect their abilities.

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** * Also in relation to the above, it would be interesting to see a drow with both [[TheEmpath empathy]] and [[FaintingSeer seer]] in their bloodlines and how this would affect their abilities.
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** They are still Kel'noz's bloodline and he's Sarnel and Nei'kalsa's grandfather, but they're related to him paternally so they're not "real" Vals. The only reason they count as Rosof's line is that his son made a deal with the mother (Nebu, who hasn't been seen but has been mentioned) so they would be, and this is acknowledged as a rare thing. One fan did a [[http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9600/sharensarghressfamilytr.png family tree]] that explains it.

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** They are still Kel'noz's bloodline and he's Sarnel and Nei'kalsa's grandfather, but they're related to him paternally so they're not "real" Vals. The only reason they count as Rosof's line is that his son made a deal with the mother (Nebu, who hasn't been seen but has been mentioned) mentioned by WordOfGod) so they would be, and this is acknowledged as a rare thing. One fan did a [[http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9600/sharensarghressfamilytr.png family tree]] that explains it.
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** They are still Kel'noz's bloodline and he's Sarnel and Nei'kalsa's grandfather, but they're related to him paternally so they're not "real" Vals. The only reason they count as Rosof's line is that his son made a deal with the mother of his sons so they would be, and this is acknowledged as a rare thing. One fan did a [[http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9600/sharensarghressfamilytr.png family tree]] that explains it.

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** They are still Kel'noz's bloodline and he's Sarnel and Nei'kalsa's grandfather, but they're related to him paternally so they're not "real" Vals. The only reason they count as Rosof's line is that his son made a deal with the mother of his sons (Nebu, who hasn't been seen but has been mentioned) so they would be, and this is acknowledged as a rare thing. One fan did a [[http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9600/sharensarghressfamilytr.png family tree]] that explains it.
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** They are still Kel'noz's bloodline and he's Sarnel and Nei'kalsa's grandfather, but they're related to him paternally so they're not "real" Vals. The only reason they count as Rosof's line is that his son madde a deal with the mother of his sons so they would be, and this is acknowledged as a rare thing. One fan did a [[http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9600/sharensarghressfamilytr.png family tree]] that explains it.

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** They are still Kel'noz's bloodline and he's Sarnel and Nei'kalsa's grandfather, but they're related to him paternally so they're not "real" Vals. The only reason they count as Rosof's line is that his son madde made a deal with the mother of his sons so they would be, and this is acknowledged as a rare thing. One fan did a [[http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9600/sharensarghressfamilytr.png family tree]] that explains it.
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** It's not clear just what they did, but they might not have used the egg in the way we think they did. Also "father" is more of a metaphor, since there's another story in Daydream where they do the same process and refer to a "second mother" instead.



*** Also in relation to the above, it would be interesting to see a drow with both [[TheEmpath empathy]] and [[FaintingSeer seer]] in their bloodlines and how this would affect their abilities.

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*** They do have empaths in the Kyorl, the trained ones are called [[http://www.drowtales.com/worldsettingarchive.php?sid=3158 Inquitors]]. That page gives a pretty good explanation of how it works.
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Also in relation to the above, it would be interesting to see a drow with both [[TheEmpath empathy]] and [[FaintingSeer seer]] in their bloodlines and how this would affect their abilities.




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** They are still Kel'noz's bloodline and he's Sarnel and Nei'kalsa's grandfather, but they're related to him paternally so they're not "real" Vals. The only reason they count as Rosof's line is that his son madde a deal with the mother of his sons so they would be, and this is acknowledged as a rare thing. One fan did a [[http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9600/sharensarghressfamilytr.png family tree]] that explains it.
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*** I think the implication of [[spoiler:Ash'waren's]] height is just that she's small for a Dark Elf, and since the Sullisin'rune are implied to be from the same area that Vaelia's people are from (just compare the architecture) and the Emberi are shorter than the average Halme that it may just be a racial trait.




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***** I think the implication behind [[spoiler:Snadhya's seeds]] were that she went to Kiel's mother specifically to ''get'' them, since whatever she wanted Ven'ndia to do [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=449 really upset her]] to the point that she [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=450 considered telling the other clans]]. It's not clear how Kharla was tainted, but the [[http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/?p=763 Sea of Spirits]] audiobook implies that it has something to do with the high concentration of spirits in Char and that they somehow took her over.

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** Waesoloth only had two children or were all her children around Naal'suul and Khal'harror's age? If the latter is true would all her daughters have been in Orthobbae at the time of a demon breaking loose?



** [[http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/?p=3116 WordOfGod]] now confirms that exceptionally tall drow get their heights from their dark elven ancestors. This brings me to question if Ash'waren is just short for her race or whether her empathy can be used to make herself shorter as well, given how she compares to Quain'tana.

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** [[http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/?p=3116 WordOfGod]] now confirms that exceptionally tall drow get their heights from their dark elven ancestors. This brings me to question if Ash'waren [[spoiler: Ash'waren]] is just short for her race or whether her empathy can be used to make herself shorter as well, given how she compares to Quain'tana.




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****[[spoiler: Snadhya's faulty seeds]] I wonder if they apply to most of the Vel'Vlozress as well or whether they had access to the original taint that Kiel'ndia's mother began? Assuming that Kiel'ndia was already tainted before the Nidra'achal War. And then there's Kharla'ggen. Who knows how she became tainted and if she ever lost control of her seed what that would mean for Chel'el'sussoloth.



* If empathy is just influencing and feeling emotions, how did Faen manage to rip off [[spoiler: Nihi'liir's]] arm in her psychic attack? Empathy should be an active rather than passive power and at the very least have something to do with telekinesis?
* Do drowussu also have the potential to be empaths and if so how do their empaths compare to those in the Sullissin'rune clan? I think the world setting pages hinted that within Kyorl orders there may well be empaths but being fairly new to the comics (as of January this year) I don't know how canon this is.

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* If empathy is just influencing and feeling emotions, how did Faen manage to rip off [[spoiler: Nihi'liir's]] arm in her psychic attack? Empathy should be an active a passive rather than passive active power and at the very least Faen's ability to rip off an arm should have something to do with telekinesis?
* Do **Do drowussu also have the potential to be empaths and if so how do their empaths compare to those in the Sullissin'rune clan? I think the world setting pages hinted that within Kyorl orders there may well be empaths but being fairly new to the comics (as of January this year) I don't know how canon this is.is.
*** Also in relation to the above, it would be interesting to see a drow with both [[TheEmpath empathy]] and [[FaintingSeer seer]] in their bloodlines and how this would affect their abilities.

!! Twins in the Sharen clan
* The podcast dealing with this is inaccessible outside of the USA so apologies if this is already answered. If twins (identical or fraternal) are born naturally within the Sharen clan are protector twins still needed for each twin or would the mother just ignore the convention in that case?

!! Snadhya'rune and Khaless
* Is it common knowledge that Khaless is now a demon or only known by a select few people?

!! Nei'kalsa and Sarnel Tions Sarghress
* Weren't they part of Kel'noz's bloodline? I thought Nei'kalsa was mentioned in one of the earlier chapters as being Kel'noz's great/granddaughter with a member of Rosof's family. Is this now [[{{discontinuity}} retconned]]?

!! The Dutan'vir- Drowussu with a touch of drowolath or drowolath with a touch of drowussu?
* They seem to view themselves mostly as grey drow (drowussu) if Mikilu's perspective in the Dutan'vir path sidestory is anything to go by.

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** WordOfGod now confirms that exceptionally tall drow get their heights from their dark elven ancestors. This brings me to question if Ash'waren is just short for her race or whether her empathy can be used to make herself shorter as well, given how she compares to Quain'tana.

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** WordOfGod [[http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/?p=3116 WordOfGod]] now confirms that exceptionally tall drow get their heights from their dark elven ancestors. This brings me to question if Ash'waren is just short for her race or whether her empathy can be used to make herself shorter as well, given how she compares to Quain'tana.



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!! Why is Mel'arnach[[spoiler: Mel'arnach]] considered Kalki's "father" and [[spoiler: Snadhya'rune]] her "mother" ?
* When it was [[spoiler: Mel'arnach's egg]] that was used to create Kalki? Assuming that the Jaal'daarya just used [[spoiler: Snadhya'rune's]] genetic material and implanted it into the egg, shouldn't it be the other way around?

!! The potential of "empathy" to be a {{gamebreaker}} power in the setting
* If empathy is just influencing and feeling emotions, how did Faen manage to rip off [[spoiler: Nihi'liir's]] arm in her psychic attack? Empathy should be an active rather than passive power and at the very least have something to do with telekinesis?
* Do drowussu also have the potential to be empaths and if so how do their empaths compare to those in the Sullissin'rune clan? I think the world setting pages hinted that within Kyorl orders there may well be empaths but being fairly new to the comics (as of January this year) I don't know how canon this is.

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**WordOfGod now confirms that exceptionally tall drow get their heights from their dark elven ancestors. This brings me to question if Ash'waren is just short for her race or whether her empathy can be used to make herself shorter as well, given how she compares to Quain'tana.



* Pretty much everything is non-canon unless otherwise stated. The Sil'lice story was a unique one in that the members voted to have it told as close to canon as possible, but this isn't the usual practice (and at the time the author was pretty perplexed by the fact that the options letting him tell it kept winning). The Vel'cahal story is based on an already existing story in the drow world, the Daydream version is likened to a historical fiction book that has some elements of truth but also embellishes it, so while there was a Sharess and probably was a Vel'cahal no one but those people (and maybe Diva) know what really happened.

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* Pretty much everything is non-canon unless otherwise stated. The Sil'lice story was a unique one in that the members voted to have it told as close to canon as possible, but this isn't the usual practice (and at the time the author was pretty perplexed by the fact that the options letting him tell it kept winning). The Vel'cahal story is based on an already existing story in the drow world, the Daydream version is likened to a historical fiction book that has some elements of truth but also embellishes it, so while there was a Sharess and probably was a Vel'cahal no one but those people (and maybe Diva) know what really happened.happened.

!! Why is Mel'arnach
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*** One of the reasons it's dangerous is that while it makes you immune to other nether beings coming after you, even if you don't [[spoiler:have one of Snadhya's faulty seeds]] you might still lose control of it and get taken over by it, as happened to the teacher in Orthorbbae. The dangers of tainting are also due to the fact that it involves accessing nether beings, who are by nature dangerous, and it increases the odds that someone would open a nether gate accidentally (or on purpose) and possibly cause lots of casualties. The Kyorl oppose any use of nether beings except to seal them because open nether gates are so dangerous.

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* There are a few implications as to how this happens. In the current setting [[spoiler:the surviving light elves are almost always covered fully as Judicators, so that's why no one (including, it seems, most other drowussu) know who they really are. As to how they came to be, this hasn't been made clear, but the fact that the Dutan'vir were part drowussu and Diva's guards suggests that she knew about some of them and probably accepted some light elves back when Chel was first founded. There's also a podcast where they suggest that drowussu developed in another part of the underworld and came to Chel, though this isn't necessarily canon]].



Some stories like Sil'lice and her twins are accepted as canon whilst others like ''Goddess Knight'' and ''Origins of the Jaal'darya'' are not. But elements from ''Goddess Knight'' appeared in the main comic in Chapter 17 and some of the backstory in clan politics cannot be understood by newcomers when forumites are referring to daydream in discussions

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Some stories like Sil'lice and her twins are accepted as canon whilst others like ''Goddess Knight'' and ''Origins of the Jaal'darya'' are not. But elements from ''Goddess Knight'' appeared in the main comic in Chapter 17 and some of the backstory in clan politics cannot be understood by newcomers when forumites are referring to daydream in discussionsdiscussions
* Pretty much everything is non-canon unless otherwise stated. The Sil'lice story was a unique one in that the members voted to have it told as close to canon as possible, but this isn't the usual practice (and at the time the author was pretty perplexed by the fact that the options letting him tell it kept winning). The Vel'cahal story is based on an already existing story in the drow world, the Daydream version is likened to a historical fiction book that has some elements of truth but also embellishes it, so while there was a Sharess and probably was a Vel'cahal no one but those people (and maybe Diva) know what really happened.
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** That still doesn't answer the question. [[spoiler: The Kyrol'solenurn have the same information as everyone but the Nidraa'chal. They should all come to the same conclusion regarding the dangers of taint.]]
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Some stories like Sil'lice and her twins are accepted as canon whilst others like ''Goddess Knight'' and ''Origins of the Jaal'darya'' are not. But elements from ''Goddess Knight'' appeared in the main comic in Chapter 17 and some of the backstory in clan politics cannot be understood by newcomers especially when forumites refer to daydream when discussing character motivations.

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Some stories like Sil'lice and her twins are accepted as canon whilst others like ''Goddess Knight'' and ''Origins of the Jaal'darya'' are not. But elements from ''Goddess Knight'' appeared in the main comic in Chapter 17 and some of the backstory in clan politics cannot be understood by newcomers especially when forumites refer are referring to daydream when discussing character motivations.in discussions
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* In most media they are. In the Drowtales universe, Dark Elves (aka Dokkalfar) are the ancestors of the Drow who lived on the surface. The Drow are the children of the Dark Elf race, changed by the environment of the Underworld, gaining much darker skin, losing the color in their hair and some other minor cosmetic changes. [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070711c0p006.jpg These]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070712c0p007.jpg two pages]] explain somewhat. The Drow are divided into four main types as seen on the second page: Drowolath--most common type of Drow, descended from the dokkalfar; Drowussu--lighter-skinned than other Drow [[spoiler:they are descended from the Vanir (aka Light Elves) the ancient enemy of the dokkalfar]]; Xuile'solen--not much to say, they're a genetically degenerate sub-species. Ver'drowendar--Drow that have undergone Tainting.

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* In most media they are. In the Drowtales universe, Dark Elves (aka Dokkalfar) are the ancestors of the Drow who lived on the surface. The Drow are the children of the Dark Elf race, changed by the environment of the Underworld, gaining much darker skin, losing the color in their hair and some other minor cosmetic changes. [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070711c0p006.jpg These]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070712c0p007.jpg two pages]] explain somewhat. The Drow are divided into four main types as seen on the second page: Drowolath--most common type of Drow, descended from the dokkalfar; Drowussu--lighter-skinned than other Drow [[spoiler:they are descended from the Vanir (aka Light Elves) the ancient enemy of the dokkalfar]]; Xuile'solen--not much to say, they're a genetically degenerate sub-species. Ver'drowendar--Drow that have undergone Tainting.Tainting.

!! The Drowussu
[[spoiler: Are actually the descendants of Light Elves and not Dark Elves.]] Okay this is not a problem. But I am just wondering how their population came to be. [[spoiler: Who were the Light Elves that went underground with Sharess and her people? Were they originally allies that the Drow and their ancestors just forgot about? Or are they descendants of Light Elf slaves of the fleeing Dark Elves - who somehow split from their dark elf counterparts and formed their own clans? If the latter is true how large a population would there have had to have been in order to form their numbers? Is Drowussu skin so close to regular light elven complexion that they can afford to have actual Light elves underground as members without anyone noticing?]]

!! When is Daydream considered canon?

Some stories like Sil'lice and her twins are accepted as canon whilst others like ''Goddess Knight'' and ''Origins of the Jaal'darya'' are not. But elements from ''Goddess Knight'' appeared in the main comic in Chapter 17 and some of the backstory in clan politics cannot be understood by newcomers especially when forumites refer to daydream when discussing character motivations.
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* In most media they are. In the Drowtales universe, a Dark Elf (aka Dokkalfar) are the ancestors of the Drow who lived on the surface. The Drow are the children of the Dark Elf race, changed by the environment of the Underworld, gaining much darker skin, losing the color in their hair and some other minor cosmetic changes. [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070711c0p006.jpg These]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070712c0p007.jpg two pages]] explain somewhat. The Drow are divided into four main types as seen on the second page: Drowolath--most common type of Drow, descended from the dokkalfar; Drowussu--lighter-skinned than other Drow [[spoiler:they are descended from the Vanir (aka Light Elves) the ancient enemy of the dokkalfar]]; Xuile'solen--not much to say, they're a genetically degenerate sub-species. Ver'drowendar--Drow that have undergone Tainting.

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* In most media they are. In the Drowtales universe, a Dark Elf Elves (aka Dokkalfar) are the ancestors of the Drow who lived on the surface. The Drow are the children of the Dark Elf race, changed by the environment of the Underworld, gaining much darker skin, losing the color in their hair and some other minor cosmetic changes. [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070711c0p006.jpg These]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070712c0p007.jpg two pages]] explain somewhat. The Drow are divided into four main types as seen on the second page: Drowolath--most common type of Drow, descended from the dokkalfar; Drowussu--lighter-skinned than other Drow [[spoiler:they are descended from the Vanir (aka Light Elves) the ancient enemy of the dokkalfar]]; Xuile'solen--not much to say, they're a genetically degenerate sub-species. Ver'drowendar--Drow that have undergone Tainting.
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* This is a spoiler answer. [[spoiler:The Kyrol'solenurn's attitude towards tainting is partly justified. While some of it may be irrational fear of influence by the demon seeds upon their hosts, it's been revealed in the manga that many, most even, of the currently tainted Drow have had the procedure done incorrectly. This was done purposefully by the Nidraa'chal, working in the shadows, and this incorrect type of tainting will kill all of those who have received it in a matter of decades. There is a form of tainting that is perfectly safe, but only a few know it. Even those tainted correctly would likely be hunted down by the Kyorl'solenurn and their sympathizers, they are zealots after all.]]



* In the Drowtales universe, a Dark Elf (aka Dokkalfar) are the ancestors of the Drow who lived on the surface. The Drow are the children of the Dark Elf race, changed by the environment of the Underworld, gaining much darker skin, losing the color in their hair and some other minor cosmetic changes. [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070711c0p006.jpg These]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070712c0p007.jpg two pages]] explain somewhat.

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* In most media they are. In the Drowtales universe, a Dark Elf (aka Dokkalfar) are the ancestors of the Drow who lived on the surface. The Drow are the children of the Dark Elf race, changed by the environment of the Underworld, gaining much darker skin, losing the color in their hair and some other minor cosmetic changes. [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070711c0p006.jpg These]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070712c0p007.jpg two pages]] explain somewhat. The Drow are divided into four main types as seen on the second page: Drowolath--most common type of Drow, descended from the dokkalfar; Drowussu--lighter-skinned than other Drow [[spoiler:they are descended from the Vanir (aka Light Elves) the ancient enemy of the dokkalfar]]; Xuile'solen--not much to say, they're a genetically degenerate sub-species. Ver'drowendar--Drow that have undergone Tainting.
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I always thought they were the same thing.thing.
* In the Drowtales universe, a Dark Elf (aka Dokkalfar) are the ancestors of the Drow who lived on the surface. The Drow are the children of the Dark Elf race, changed by the environment of the Underworld, gaining much darker skin, losing the color in their hair and some other minor cosmetic changes. [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070711c0p006.jpg These]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20070712c0p007.jpg two pages]] explain somewhat.
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The {{Knight Templar}}s seem to think a tainted drow becoming possessed is inevitable. The rest seem to think tainting fairly safe. It seems that tainting is old enough that they'd have a very good idea of exactly how dangerous it is. How dangerous is it, and why the apparent disagreement?

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The {{Knight Templar}}s seem to think a tainted drow becoming possessed is inevitable. The rest seem to think tainting fairly safe. It seems that tainting is old enough that they'd have a very good idea of exactly how dangerous it is. How dangerous is it, and why the apparent disagreement?disagreement?

!! What's the difference between a drow and a dark elf?
I always thought they were the same thing.
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* Also, keep in mind that she can [[{{Firefly}} kill you with her brain]], and most people think she's insane anyway, so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch for people to write it off as another eccentricity. Considering that Diva'ratrika dealt with her directly during the war between her clans I think it's pretty likely that she knows too, but it probably is more or less TheNotSecret among the top brass who just don't care enough to spread it around. And since Ash'waren or her relatives have access to the bedrooms of a lot of nobles she probably has quite a bit of dirt on everyone else, so they wouldn't be eager to spread around dirt about her knowing she could sling some back.

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* Also, keep in mind that she can [[{{Firefly}} kill you with her brain]], and most people think she's insane anyway, so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch for people to write it off as another eccentricity. Considering that Diva'ratrika dealt with her directly during the war between her clans I think it's pretty likely that she knows too, but it probably is more or less TheNotSecret among the top brass who just don't care enough to spread it around. And since Ash'waren or her relatives have access to the bedrooms of a lot of nobles she probably has quite a bit of dirt on everyone else, so they wouldn't be eager to spread around dirt about her knowing she could sling some back.back.

!! How dangerous is being tainted?
The {{Knight Templar}}s seem to think a tainted drow becoming possessed is inevitable. The rest seem to think tainting fairly safe. It seems that tainting is old enough that they'd have a very good idea of exactly how dangerous it is. How dangerous is it, and why the apparent disagreement?
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* Also, keep in mind that she can [[{{Firefly}} kill you with her brain]], and most people think she's insane anyway, so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Considering that Diva'ratrika dealt with her directly during the war between her clans I think it's pretty likely that she knows too, but it probably is more or less an open secret. Also much of Ash'waren's shtick is to look harmless and downplay her intentions, so those that do know probably don't consider it worth it to expose her. It's probably TheNotSecret among the top brass who just don't care enough to spread it around. And since Ash'waren or her relatives have access to the bedrooms of a lot of nobles she probably has quite a bit of dirt on everyone else, so they wouldn't be eager to spread around dirt about her knowing she could sling some back.

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* Also, keep in mind that she can [[{{Firefly}} kill you with her brain]], and most people think she's insane anyway, so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. stretch for people to write it off as another eccentricity. Considering that Diva'ratrika dealt with her directly during the war between her clans I think it's pretty likely that she knows too, but it probably is more or less an open secret. Also much of Ash'waren's shtick is to look harmless and downplay her intentions, so those that do know probably don't consider it worth it to expose her. It's probably TheNotSecret among the top brass who just don't care enough to spread it around. And since Ash'waren or her relatives have access to the bedrooms of a lot of nobles she probably has quite a bit of dirt on everyone else, so they wouldn't be eager to spread around dirt about her knowing she could sling some back.
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* Also, keep in mind that she can [[{{Firefly}} kill you with her brain]], and most people think she's insane anyway, so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Considering that Diva'ratrika dealt with her directly during the war between her clans I think it's pretty likely that she knows too, but it probably is more or less an open secret. Also much of Ash'waren's shtick is to look harmless and downplay her intentions, so those that do know probably don't consider it worth it to expose her. It's probably TheNotSecret among the top brass who just don't care enough to spread it around.

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* Also, keep in mind that she can [[{{Firefly}} kill you with her brain]], and most people think she's insane anyway, so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Considering that Diva'ratrika dealt with her directly during the war between her clans I think it's pretty likely that she knows too, but it probably is more or less an open secret. Also much of Ash'waren's shtick is to look harmless and downplay her intentions, so those that do know probably don't consider it worth it to expose her. It's probably TheNotSecret among the top brass who just don't care enough to spread it around. And since Ash'waren or her relatives have access to the bedrooms of a lot of nobles she probably has quite a bit of dirt on everyone else, so they wouldn't be eager to spread around dirt about her knowing she could sling some back.
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* It's more or less implied that the above is the case, since [[spoiler:Mel]] was trying for years to get pregnant. And since having children is a major way to gain status the idea that you wouldn't want them is practically unheard of. There is also the implication that Snadhya'rune has had abortions, and the way Sil'lice talks about it makes it sound like that's considered really unusual for a drow to do.

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* It's more or less implied that the above is the case, since [[spoiler:Mel]] [[spoiler:Mel'arnach]] was trying for years to get pregnant.pregnant, and the fact that [[spoiler:Quain'tana]] couldn't get pregnant after her injury set much of the plot in motion. And Zala'ess is mocked even by other drow for how many children she has since it means that she's been screwing around a lot. And since having children is a major way to gain status the idea that you wouldn't want them is practically unheard of. There is also the implication that Snadhya'rune has had abortions, abortions (which, even in a pre-industrial society, aren't that hard to induce if you know what you're doing), and the way Sil'lice talks about it makes it sound like that's considered really unusual for a drow to do.
do. It might also be that the commoners do have some form of contraception, but since the story mainly focuses on nobles they don't have much need for it so we, the audience, don't see it.
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* As far as I can tell, the vast majority of drow do not have heavy interaction with the clan leaders, or for that matter, anyone above the grunt work level of their armies and merchants (who collect taxes, do odd jobs, and generally act as a buffer between the clan leadership and the common, clanless, populace). This isn't readily obvious because the story DEALS more with the nobility of the world than with the common folk, but I suspect that it's an open secret amongst the Il'haresses, and she takes that form just to avoid ticking off people who might see her in the street/all the minor clan leaders who have no possible historic roots back to the Moons Age. EG: anyone who DOES know about it, doesn't give a damn, anyone who WOULD give a damn, doesn't know about it, and no one who DOES know about it is about to tell them (because hey, they're only a step up from commoners right?)

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* As far as I can tell, the vast majority of drow do not have heavy interaction with the clan leaders, or for that matter, anyone above the grunt work level of their armies and merchants (who collect taxes, do odd jobs, and generally act as a buffer between the clan leadership and the common, clanless, populace). This isn't readily obvious because the story DEALS more with the nobility of the world than with the common folk, but I suspect that it's an open secret amongst the Il'haresses, and she takes that form just to avoid ticking off people who might see her in the street/all the minor clan leaders who have no possible historic roots back to the Moons Age. EG: anyone who DOES know about it, doesn't give a damn, anyone who WOULD give a damn, doesn't know about it, and no one who DOES know about it is about to tell them (because hey, they're only a step up from commoners right?)right?)
* Also, keep in mind that she can [[{{Firefly}} kill you with her brain]], and most people think she's insane anyway, so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Considering that Diva'ratrika dealt with her directly during the war between her clans I think it's pretty likely that she knows too, but it probably is more or less an open secret. Also much of Ash'waren's shtick is to look harmless and downplay her intentions, so those that do know probably don't consider it worth it to expose her. It's probably TheNotSecret among the top brass who just don't care enough to spread it around.
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* [[MamaBear Probably]] [[FreakOut not well]]. We're probably going to find out at some point, but since the story jumps around between clans and in time it might not be for a few chapters.
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* It's more or less implied that the above is the case, since [[spoiler:Mel]] was trying for years to get pregnant. And since having children is a major way to gain status the idea that you wouldn't want them is practically unheard of. There is also the implication that Snadhya'rune has had abortions, and the way Sil'lice talks about it makes it sound like that's considered really unusual for a drow to do.
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*It's heavily suspected that this one was thrown in specifically to explain how Drow never hit menopause, it could also be that it's just REALLY HARD to get pregnant for them, and the infrequency of pregnancy, combined with the reverence for it, just means that when it happens, they might not care. Alternatively, condoms, humans have had them since before the middle ages (latex and rubber made them RELIABLE :P) but we had them. And of course, the ever present "contraception spell" in fanfics is certainly an option.

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* While most Drow seem to revere pregnancy, what do those who don't want children for whatever reason do? If Drow females don't have a menstrual cycle, what regulates their ability to become pregnant?

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* I'm new to the DrowTales comic so I'm sorry if this seems like a newbie question, but if Ash'waren is said to be the next in line of succession for being Val'Sharess (due to being the next person to personally know Sharess after Diva'Ratrika)considering that Sharess discharged her aura to close the nethergates soon after leading the Dark Elves underground and entrusting leadership of her clan to her sister, and as can be presumed, before the Dark Elves started giving birth to Drow; the only way that Ash'waren could have known Sharess is if she were [[spoiler: a Dark Elf herself]]. Then with the whole Thalamani exodus that Rel'Lumia Val'Nal'Sarkoth mentions at the Illharess Gathering, considering that this occurred on the surface and Ash'waren mentions she remembers it, this could only mean that [[spoiler: she is actually Dark Elf.]]

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I'm new to the DrowTales comic so I'm sorry if this seems like a newbie question, but if Ash'waren is said to be the next in line of succession for being Val'Sharess (due to being the next person to personally know Sharess after Diva'Ratrika)considering that Sharess discharged her aura to close the nethergates soon after leading the Dark Elves underground and entrusting leadership of her clan to her sister, and as can be presumed, before the Dark Elves started giving birth to Drow; the only way that Ash'waren could have known Sharess is if she were [[spoiler: a Dark Elf herself]]. Then with the whole Thalamani exodus that Rel'Lumia Val'Nal'Sarkoth mentions at the Illharess Gathering, considering that this occurred on the surface and Ash'waren mentions she remembers it, this could only mean that [[spoiler: she is actually Dark Elf.]]




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* As far as I can tell, the vast majority of drow do not have heavy interaction with the clan leaders, or for that matter, anyone above the grunt work level of their armies and merchants (who collect taxes, do odd jobs, and generally act as a buffer between the clan leadership and the common, clanless, populace). This isn't readily obvious because the story DEALS more with the nobility of the world than with the common folk, but I suspect that it's an open secret amongst the Il'haresses, and she takes that form just to avoid ticking off people who might see her in the street/all the minor clan leaders who have no possible historic roots back to the Moons Age. EG: anyone who DOES know about it, doesn't give a damn, anyone who WOULD give a damn, doesn't know about it, and no one who DOES know about it is about to tell them (because hey, they're only a step up from commoners right?)

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!! Why is it a secret that [[spoiler: Ash'waren is really a Dark Elf]]?
* I'm new to the DrowTales comic so I'm sorry if this seems like a newbie question, but if Ash'waren is said to be the next in line of succession for being Val'Sharess (due to being the next person to personally know Sharess after Diva'Ratrika)considering that Sharess discharged her aura to close the nethergates soon after leading the Dark Elves underground and entrusting leadership of her clan to her sister, and as can be presumed, before the Dark Elves started giving birth to Drow; the only way that Ash'waren could have known Sharess is if she were [[spoiler: a Dark Elf herself]].
Then with the whole Thalamani exodus that Rel'Lumia Val'Nal'Sarkoth mentions at the Illharess Gathering, considering that this occurred on the surface.

!! Could [[spoiler: Blossom from the Goddess Knight Daydream story]] be the mother of Quaintana?

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!! Why ''How'' is it a secret that [[spoiler: Ash'waren is really a Dark Elf]]?
* I'm new to the DrowTales comic so I'm sorry if this seems like a newbie question, but if Ash'waren is said to be the next in line of succession for being Val'Sharess (due to being the next person to personally know Sharess after Diva'Ratrika)considering that Sharess discharged her aura to close the nethergates soon after leading the Dark Elves underground and entrusting leadership of her clan to her sister, and as can be presumed, before the Dark Elves started giving birth to Drow; the only way that Ash'waren could have known Sharess is if she were [[spoiler: a Dark Elf herself]]. \n Then with the whole Thalamani exodus that Rel'Lumia Val'Nal'Sarkoth mentions at the Illharess Gathering, considering that this occurred on the surface.

!! Could
surface and Ash'waren mentions she remembers it, this could only mean that [[spoiler: Blossom from she is actually Dark Elf.]]
With all of
the Goddess Knight Daydream story]] be above does this mean that her true race is in fact an {{open secret}} and so she just maintains the mother balance using her empathy or are the Drow really and truly unaware of Quaintana?her true origins?
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!!How did Waesoloth react when she found out that [[spoiler: Naal'suul had died]] from likely Khal'harror when he returned home?

!!What do Drow females use for contraception?
*While most Drow seem to revere pregnancy, what do those who don't want children for whatever reason do? If Drow females don't have a menstrual cycle, what regulates their ability to become pregnant?

!! Why is it a secret that [[spoiler: Ash'waren is really a Dark Elf]]?
*I'm new to the DrowTales comic so I'm sorry if this seems like a newbie question, but if Ash'waren is said to be the next in line of succession for being Val'Sharess (due to being the next person to personally know Sharess after Diva'Ratrika)considering that Sharess discharged her aura to close the nethergates soon after leading the Dark Elves underground and entrusting leadership of her clan to her sister, and as can be presumed, before the Dark Elves started giving birth to Drow; the only way that Ash'waren could have known Sharess is if she were [[spoiler: a Dark Elf herself]].
Then with the whole Thalamani exodus that Rel'Lumia Val'Nal'Sarkoth mentions at the Illharess Gathering, considering that this occurred on the surface.

!! Could [[spoiler: Blossom from the Goddess Knight Daydream story]] be the mother of Quaintana?
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