History Headscratchers / DragonsRidersOfBerk

** This makes sense. Plus, Berk might have gotten the brunt of the dragon war. Certainly not the only ones as Alvin's Outcasts were also attacked, but Berk seems to be closest to Dragon Island and where most of the dragons seem to head to if not off one their own or going to Dragon Island. So, Berk being weaker than the Berserkers makes sense if the Berserkers did not need to deal with the constant attrition of dragon attacks. Thus, a treaty with them makes sense and prior to the dragon war ending the terms weren't that unreasonable (a general inspection and not being aggressive against the Berserker). Also, Oswald the Agreeable seemed to be a berserker who would understand Berk not being a threat to them with that. Stoick's concern probably was that WITH the dragons on their side and a cohesive Viking-Dragon combined arms force, Berk would have the literal firepower to take on the Berserkers even with the old attrition and would be a significant threat (Hel, Alvin's obsession with riding dragons should be a clue on how much of a game changer it is). Of course, Oswald might of been willing to renegotiate since Berk had held the treaty terms honorably in the past before this very outside context development occurred... Dagur just wanted a war and was going very much out of his way to provoke it. Stoick's hiding of the dragons quite well could have been he knew how strong Berk could be, but he did not want to start an unnecessary war. But Dagur killing a Berk resident would be crossing the line as I'm pretty sure that had Dagur wanted to use, say, Astrid's blood to sign the treaty, even if the dragon war was still on Stoick would tell him to take a long walk off a short cliff (or just push him over it) and damn the consequences. Of course, without a hard copy of the treaty (and the runes are apparently the Gettysburg Address in Old Norse, so that's out), it's hard to judge the details.

** This makes sense. Plus, Berk might of gotten the brunt of the dragon war. Certainly not the only ones as Alvin's Outcasts were also attacked, but Berk seems to be closest to Dragon Island and where most of the dragons seem to head to if not off one their own or going to Dragon Island. So, Berk being weaker than the Berserkers makes sense if the Berserkers did not need to deal with the constant attrition of dragon attacks. Thus, a treaty with them makes sense and prior to the dragon war ending the terms weren't that unreasonable (a general inspection and not being aggressive against the Berserker). Also, Oswald the Agreeable seemed to be a berserker who would understand Berk not being a threat to them with that. Stoick's concern probably was that WITH the dragons on their side and a cohesive Viking-Dragon combined arms force, Berk would have the literal firepower to take on the Berserkers even with the old attrition and would be a significant threat (Hel, Alvin's obsession with riding dragons should be a clue on how much of a game changer it is). Of course, Oswald might of been willing to renegotiate since Berk had held the treaty terms honorably in the past before this very outside context development occurred... Dagur just wanted a war and was going very much out of his way to provoke it. Stoick's hiding of the dragons quite well could have been he knew how strong Berk could be, but he did not want to start an unnecessary war. But Dagur killing a Berk resident would be crossing the line as I'm pretty sure that had Dagur wanted to use, say, Astrid's blood to sign the treaty, even if the dragon war was still on Stoick would tell him to take a long walk off a short cliff (or just push him over it) and damn the consequences. Of course, without a hard copy of the treaty (and the runes are apparently the Gettysburg Address in Old Norse, so that's out), it's hard to judge the details.

** The Wingmaidens were recruited to the Razorwhips' service, not born to it, so they presumably have the option to return to their respective natal clans once they no longer had hatchlings to care for. The Defenders would've had to move to some other island, perhaps a human-suitable one that Hiccup's party had previously rejected as unsafe for their dragons.

* What ever happened to Thornados friend, you know the purple thunderdrum that he and Stoik saved from a pack of boars? You'd think after everything Tornado went throgh for him, (stealing the fish catches, escaping from the acadamy, fighting a huge group of boars with Stoik) they would be at least mentioned once or twice [[spoiler: before Thornado had to leave Stoik to take care of the baby thunderdrums in Bing Bang Boom]]

** It could be that the Berserker Tribe is not represented at the Joint Chiefs Meeting, and that all of those tribes are either friendly or weaker. The Berserker's and Dagur on the other hand, clearly are both stronger (By the fact that they have to sign the peace treaty on Berk-owned land. Peace Treaties are almost always signed on the losing side's land, especially in the old days) and more hostile (Dagur's willingness to declare war on them for simply having Dragons). And the odds are, even if Stoic did assassinate Dagur, that would still be a declaration of War (There are plenty of Berserker Witnesses, as well as the fact that the Berserker Society probably would expect the Berserker's home soon). Hiding the Dragons at least bides them time with the Berserkers. Not a lot of Time if they were actually found out, but time none the less.

** Its indicated that usually the eruptodon itself is able to take the egg to where the night terrors can retrieve it. Presumably it had been so long since a human had needed to do it that the memory/record of it had been lost (perhaps due to a population loss from war, disease or natural disaster).

** That’s simple. The Titan Wing Dramillion isn’t the King of Dragons, the King of Dragons was a Bewilderbeast residing underneath Beserker Island. The one lens Johann possessed probably contained information about the Titan Wing Dramilion.

** Shattermaster got hit dead on by a catapult, and he seemed to be in a lot of pain. Odds are the poor guy was crippled. You can't exactly fly a dragon when one of it's wings are broken.

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** Another possibility is that other Vikings have dragons (as seen in the end of ''Viking for Hire'', but they already have full time jobs around the village that takes up their time while the kids are free to spend all their time on dragons and learning about it. It's quite possible that they figured that once they had the knowledge to teach it quickly and effectively, they would do some classes to help everyone figure out what they don't already know or learned on the side. A bit of a shame, as teaching a bunch of Vikings how to do it would of made for a nice episode or two.

** This makes sense. Plus, Berk might of gotten the brunt of the dragon war. Certainly not the only ones as Alvin's Outcasts were also attacked, but Berk seems to be closest to Dragon Island and where most of the dragons seem to head to if not off one their own or going to Dragon Island. So, Berk being weaker than the Berserkers makes sense if the Berserkers did not need to deal with the constant attrition of dragon attacks. Thus, a treaty with them makes sense and prior to the dragon war ending the terms weren't that unreasonable (a general inspection and not being aggressive against the Berserker). Also, Oswald the Agreeable seemed to be a berserker who would understand Berk not being a threat to them with that. Stoick's concern probably was that WITH the dragons on their side and a cohesive Viking-Dragon combined arms force, Berk would have the literal firepower to take on the Berserkers even with the old attrition and would be a significant threat (Hel, Alvin's obsession with riding dragons should be a clue on how much of a game changer it is). Of course, Oswald might of been willing to renegotiate since Berk had held the treaty terms honorably in the past before this very outside context development occurred... Dagur just wanted a war and was going very much out of his way to provoke it. Stoick's hiding of the dragons quite well could of been he knew how strong Berk could be, but he did not want to start an unnecessary war. But Dagur killing a Berk resident would be crossing the line as I'm pretty sure that had Dagur wanted to use, say, Astrid's blood to sign the treaty, even if the dragon war was still on Stoick would tell him to take a long walk off a short cliff (or just push him over it) and damn the consequences. Of course, without a hard copy of the treaty (and the runes are apparently the Gettysburg Address in Old Norse, so that's out), it's hard to judge the details.

** This bugged me too. I figured their main objection to Gustav is he's very young compared to them; about the same size Astrid was when Fearless Fin got a face full of Flightmare and Gustav wanted to join as a full member flying around doing dangerous missions into Outcast territory and such. If Gustav just wanted to start learning and hadn't been playing around with that flamethrower armed sheep (and based on Hiccup's comment about it, that's not the first time that happened), I don't think there would have been as much objections besides maybe having the time between their other duties (home chores and missions for Stoick). I think the real objection was Gustav A) wanted to be in immediately on the long distance missions that would involve dodging crossbow bolts and siege ammunitions, B) went out and nabbed a Monstrous Nightmare on his own (which easily could of gotten him killed), and C) when told to stay put, he leapt into a dangerous situation and almost got captured then almost got Hiccup captured and as Snotlout saw, his guts broke pretty quickly as a result. Gustav was simply not ready to be a dragon rider yet and needed to spend time with basics. Unfortunately, it seems he kept the connection with the Nightmare, and I fear bad things will come of that... Maybe they'll address dragon training getting more common. I mean, they need to do that at some point since its clear that the end result would be most of the Berk Vikings being dragon riders.

** Watch the episode Animal House again. The storm that was going to predicted in that episode was a snow storm. It's possible Bucket's helmet only applies to snow storms and not lightning.

** Maybe they just needed a dragon to ''find'' the place. Now that they have been shown the way, the vikings probably remember the path on their own.

** The plant only affected dragons after a prolonged exposure. Dragon raids were basically hit-and-run attacks, they got in, stole the food and got out. Under those conditions, such a plant would have been useless.
** After the Season 7 finale, we now know [[spoiler:it's possible Johann, not Mildew, was the one who knew about blue oleander. When the Berkians were killing dragons, he had no motive to get involved or share the information with them. When they befriended dragons, he must have seen that as a potential threat to the thriving dragon hunting empire (since he had no other motive for working against them long before they met Heather, which was still years before they knew the Dragon Eye or lenses even existed), and one of his acts of sabotage against this potential enemy could have been telling the dragon-hating local about an effective type of dragon poison, under terms of strict secrecy, of course.]]

* In Thawfest, when Hiccup threw the final contest, why did Astrid call him a good viking? One could argue that the action was morally good, but I'm pretty sure throwing the contest wasn't a very viking-like move.

** My guess is that its more accurate to say the aurora just heralds the Flightmare itself rather than being something she associates directly with the whole mess with Fearless Fin. Remember that the Aurora Borealis was believed to be the rainbow bridge (bifrost) that linked the worlds in Viking tradition. Its quite possible that she interpreted it as some nod from Thor or Odin that dragons aren't all bad... its just that she REALY has it out for the Flightmare and the arrival of 'Arvindal's Fire' (not sure if that's an alternate name for the Borealis or if its supposed to be something else entirely). So in the movie, she doesn't really have the Flightmare on her mind. But in Flight of Passage, everyone starts talking about it again and it gets her really riled up.

* The Dragon riders are now all 18-19 and in the second film they're in their early twenties. How are they all still shorter than their parents?
** Maybe their parents are just really tall? By second movie most of the Dragon Riders, save Snotlout and Hiccup, are the same height as Gobber. Hiccup's parents are pretty tall at 6'9"(Stoick) & 6'3"(Valka). Hiccup is also tall being 6'1" by the second movie. Not everybody outgrows or grows to be the same height as their parents.

* During the series finale it is made clear that to find the king of dragons you need all the Dragon eye Lens's but Johann only had 1 lens so how did he find out about the titan wing Dramillion?

* What happens to the Wingmaidens and Defenders of the Wing after the events of ''The Hidden World''? Their societies revolved very heavily around the symbiosis of human and dragon. The Wingmaidens live in harmony with their Razorwhips, and the Eruptodon is what's keeping the Defenders from being dispossessed thanks to the volcano.

* What happens to the Wingmaidens and Defenders of the Wing after the events of ''The Hidden World''? Their societies revolved very heavily around the symbiosis of human and dragon. The Wingmaidens live in harmony with their Razorwhips, and the Eruptodon is what's keeping the Defenders from being dispossessed thanks to the volcano.

* Throughout the last season, it's repeatedly stated they need "all five lenses". But here's what confuses me; there's way more than 5 lenses. Dagur and Heather each had one, Gustav found another, Hiccup and Fishlegs find two more during the Lycanwing fiasco, but then there's the one Wing Maidens have, the one Gruffnut steals, etc. What gives?

* What happens to the Wingmaidens and Defenders of the Wing after the events of ''The Hidden World''? Their societies revolved very heavily around the symbiosis of human and dragon. The Wingmaidens live in harmony with their Razorwhips, and the Eruptodon is what's keeping the Defenders from being dispossessed thanks to the volcano.

* The [[AnimalWrongsGroup Defenders of the Wing]] condemn the dragon riders for "oppressing" dragons by riding them, but have no problems [[FantasticDrug drugging]] the dragons on their island to keep them calm. [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop So riding dragons is bad, but slipping them some roofies is A-OK!]]

** He shows up again as a cameo during Dagur's wedding. Perhaps after Shattermaster was injured Dagur decided to keep him just as a friend and pet rather, especially since Sleuther the Triple Stryke was much more adept and experienced as a fighter.