History Headscratchers / DragMeToHell

** They're not white people who work in banks, and are thus not evil. This logic is obvious if your name is Sam Raimi, apparently.

* We are supposed to believe that Sylvia is the same that at the start, '''doomed a little boy to Hell FOR A NECKLACE'' and then think that she is right in cursing Christine? Sam Raimi, have you lost your goddamn mind?

** If I had to take a guess, it's because Sam Raimi is most likely an atheist and doesn't believe in God, so the thought that Christine could get help from the church never crossed his mind. However, Hell is convenient to telling the story, so it still exists.

* Why is the concept of God absent from this movie? No matter what your religion is, the plot revolves around a curse where a demon ''drags you to hell''. Yet not only does Christine not consider going to an exorcist, but also [[spoiler: the name of God isn't even invoked during the failed exorcism sequence]]. I don't even think the word "god" is used at all in the movie. So why was it absent, when in other situations of demons people might call a priest or something?

** Shock, one supposes. Being told that a demon is going to possess a goat and do freaky things is one thing, even believing it is one thing, actually seeing it happen is another. But probably more importantly, because Sam Raimi wasn't done with his torturing of the voodoo doll Christine at that point.

* The goal of the seance seems to be to get the lamia into the goat and then kill the goat to send it away. So why isn't the guy with the machete sitting right next to the goat with his machete raised ready to kill it as soon as the lamia goes into it? The lamia escapes because he wasn't ready.

* This is really just a personal gripe but what justifies an elderly woman one week from death with more than one optional place to live who's been living off unpaid debts with substantial loans and extensions thinking an honest-to-god worker just doing her job deserves going to Hell?
** And just what gives her the power to damn possibly sinless (or at least a heavy lack of) souls to Hell just for pissing her off that a certain [[{{God}} higher power]] couldn't overrule?
*** Also, if Gypsies have the power to damn people to hell...why is it being applied now, instead of, say, when [[ThoseWackyNazis certain people]] were slaughtering them by the thousands?
** You're missing the point. We're not ''supposed'' to think Christine deserves to go to hell. We're supposed to be scared for her. Mrs. Ganush is at worst a villain and at best someone taking DisproportionateRetribution out on someone without actually contemplating the gravity of it. She's hardly a sympathetic character once the plot really gets rolling.
*** I agree with you, but [[http://blastr.com/2009/05/is-drag-me-to-hells-heroi.php Sam Raimi would not]].
** Exactly. The FridgeBrilliance is that Christine didn't deserve to go to hell, yet still suffered. If it happened to her, it could happen to anyone, not just bad people. ParanoiaFuel much?
** I would buy the explanation that she didn't deserve to go to hell, except that in the end, [[spoiler: right before she goes to hell, she confesses to her boyfiend that it was her who denied the loan extension and not her boss, like it was an admission of guilt.]]
*** [[spoiler: So she acknowledges that she was wrong to try and shift the blame to Mr. Jacks, since it had been her call. That doesn't mean she feels guilty about not extending the loan, and, considering the above arguments, nor should she.]]
* Assuming that this is not a DevilButNoGod universe, HOW THE HECK would God allow a little boy and a woman like Christine to get dragged to hell? Is God powerless against gypsy curses? It could be argued that God cannot interfere with free will, but for something this serious, one would think that He/She/It would interfere. It's like telling two kids not to hurt each other, only to do nothing while one of them tries to kill the other with a flamethrower. It's one thing for a human to kill another, but it's something entirely different to intentionally curse another human being to hell.
** Horror movies aren't really supposed to make sense as long as they get jump scares out of you. Other than that, it's probably a DevilButNoGod situation like you said.

* What pisses me off about this movie is the when that young woman said Christine deserves whatever comes to her. Does she know about the curse? If so, what kind of bullshit is that to damn someone to hell when not was Ganush pushing her chances but was the one who set herself up for shame in the first place?

I would buy the explanation that she didn't deserve to go to hell, except that in the end, [[spoiler: right before she goes to hell, she confesses to her boyfiend that it was her who denied the loan extension and not her boss, like it was an admission of guilt.]]

** Sam Raimi's white guilt.

** Well, from what I recall, the anorexia theory was based around the fact that most all of the gross things that happen to Christine involve her getting something in her mouth/being force-fed (the dream!Ganush pukes worms in her mouth, the shed!Ganush's eye flying into her mouth, corpse!Ganush spits corpse juice into her mouth, etc) and the fact that the only times we see her eat either turn the food into something disgusting (at the dinner) or treat it as an act of defeat (the ice cream binge and the sundaes at the diner). There's also a small moment when she passes a pastry shop near the beginning and has to stop herself from going in.

* I read somewhere that this movie apparently has some kind of anorexia subtext. Um... can someone explain that, please? Cause I'm not seeing it beyond the mention that Christine used to be fat (Then again, I only saw the movie a while ago...)

* So, Mrs. Ganush has no money to make payments on her loan, and goes to the bank to get an extension. Christine doesn't give it to her, thus gets cursed for her selfish (from Mrs. Ganush's view) ways. But, when Ganush is dead, her house is filled with extended Roma stereotypes/family who are merrily feasting and cavorting. Could they not scrape together to make a payment on her house after two extensions? Why is it that their failure to help Ganush is overlooked but Christine's gets her dragged to Hell?

** As a major train station, all passenger routes going that way stop at LAUS. Given she was heading to Santa Barbara, the train would not have been travelling at that speed in real life, and indeed, would have been entering Union Station backwards, so the locomotive appearing first would not be accurate either.

** I wouldn't know, i should have specified earlier that i am from New York City.

* Christine spurts half a pint of blood from her nose at work, and everyone acts like she's being rude rather than calling 911 and getting her an ambulance. Her boss is only concerned with having gotten some of her blood in her mouth. Clearly, Christine has suffered a serious injury and her life is in danger. If she dies, then the bank could most likely be sued by Christine's relatives.

** Aren't all passenger trains supposed to stop at Los Angeles Union though?

** In my city when a train isn't making a stop (they call them express trains here) it barrels through the station very quickly.

* Minor nitpick, but the Wikipedia article mentions that the train is "barrelling towards [Christine]". So a train is charging through a major terminal station (Los Angeles Union) at, most likely, a very unsafe speed. Surely the engineer would know the speed limits? If, over in England, a train ran at high speed through a major station like Exeter St Davids or Southampton Central, both of which have tight speed limits and are required stops for ''all'' passenger trains, there would be major repurcussions.

** Horror movies aren't really supposed to make sense as long as they get jump scares out of you. Other than that, it's probably a DevilButNoGod situation like you said.

* Assuming that this is not a DevilButNoGod universe, HOW THE HECK would God allow a little boy and a woman like Christine to get dragged to hell? Is God powerless against gypsy curses? It could be argued that God cannot interfere with free will, but for something this serious, one would think that He/She/It would interfere. It's like telling two kids not to hurt each other, only to do nothing while one of them tries to kill the other with a flamethrower. It's one thing for a human to kill another, but it's something entirely different to intentionally curse another human being to hell.

* Christine spurts half a pint of blood from her nose at work, and everyone acts like she's being rude rather than calling 911 and getting her an ambulance. Her boss is only concerned with having gotten some of her blood in her mouth. Clearly, Christine has suffered a serious injury and her life is in danger. If she dies, then the bank could most likely be sued by Christine's relative.