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** Given how the scene showed Kristal bribing a nun with money to keep quiet, it's possible that the other nuns could be NunSoHoly.NunTooHoly.
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**Given how the scene showed Kristal bribing a nun with money to keep quiet, it's possible that the other nuns could be NunSoHoly.
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** Both Cyan and Yellow were in the bottom 2 for second place. Sure, Ellie doesn't trust most people but she got Lake out last elimination, which earned Aiden's ire toward her. Not to mention, Tom still held a 2 year grudge against her from the first season and she doesn't trust Tess after she threw her vote. With the exception of Gabby, she could most likely be next if Tess votes with the guys. Her alliance with the other villains was her hope that they could help her win like they promised.
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** Both Cyan and Yellow were in the bottom 2 for second place. Sure, Ellie doesn't trust most people but she got Lake out last elimination, which earned Aiden's ire toward her. Not to mention, Tom still held a 2 year grudge against her from the first season and she doesn't trust Tess after she the latter threw her vote. With the exception of Gabby, she could most likely be next if Tess votes with the guys. Her alliance with the other villains was her hope that they could help her win like they promised.
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** Some people could be deep sleepers. If Yul's scream woke them up, they might've just shrugged it off and gone back to sleep.
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**She was hoping Gabby could understand [[CruelToBeKind that it was for Ellie's own good.]] Likewise, it did rob Ellie another chance of fixing her life, so it's understandable that Gabby's mad.
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* Why does Ellie try to argue with Riya to Let her win considering they have a villain alliance? The end of Season 2 had Riya become a person very willing to betray her own allies, and Ellie doesn't exactly trust most people, so why would she bother trying to get Riya to help her win?
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* Why does Ellie try to argue with Riya to Let her win considering they have a villain alliance? The end of Season 2 had Riya become a person very willing to betray her own allies, and Ellie doesn't exactly trust most people, so why would she bother trying to get Riya to help her win?win?
**Both Cyan and Yellow were in the bottom 2 for second place. Sure, Ellie doesn't trust most people but she got Lake out last elimination, which earned Aiden's ire toward her. Not to mention, Tom still held a 2 year grudge against her from the first season and she doesn't trust Tess after she threw her vote. With the exception of Gabby, she could most likely be next if Tess votes with the guys. Her alliance with the other villains was her hope that they could help her win like they promised.
**Both Cyan and Yellow were in the bottom 2 for second place. Sure, Ellie doesn't trust most people but she got Lake out last elimination, which earned Aiden's ire toward her. Not to mention, Tom still held a 2 year grudge against her from the first season and she doesn't trust Tess after she threw her vote. With the exception of Gabby, she could most likely be next if Tess votes with the guys. Her alliance with the other villains was her hope that they could help her win like they promised.
**Tom was eliminated before the episode where the hosts delivered the final 4 letters from home. Unless he had time to watch his season afterward, he might not have known about this.
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* Why doesn't anybody wake up when Yul snaps after Emily throws a stick at him? He's not exactly the quietest guy around and he yelped rather loudly, not to mention that Grett is sleeping right next to him.
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**Some people could be deep sleepers. If Yul's scream woke them up, they might've just shrugged it off and gone back to sleep.
**Similarly to Episode 2, they likely didn't care about that.
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* How come Gabby's okay with Ellie eating fish for breakfast? She was visibly upset when Tom and Aiden decided to cook the kitchen last episode, but she doesn't even bat an eye when Ellie eats fish with the rest of the team while she eats a tomato. What happened?
* How DID the Cyan Team even get the fish to make for breakfast anyway? Only the Magenta Team won the fishing equipment to do it in episode 3.
* How DID the Cyan Team even get the fish to make for breakfast anyway? Only the Magenta Team won the fishing equipment to do it in episode 3.
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* How come Gabby's okay with Ellie eating fish for breakfast? She was visibly upset when Tom and Aiden decided to cook the kitchen last chicken last episode, but she doesn't even bat an eye when Ellie eats fish with the rest of the team while she eats a tomato. What happened?
* How DID the Cyan Team even get the fish to make for breakfast anyway? Only the Magenta Team won the fishing equipment to do it in episode 3.
**They probably decided to take a risk by jumping in the lake or just walk around in a less deep part for fish. The previous episode showed us that Tom and Aiden used a survivalist tactic for food that's not fruit so it's not hard to think this would be different.
* How DID the Cyan Team even get the fish to make for breakfast anyway? Only the Magenta Team won the fishing equipment to do it in episode 3.
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** Even if she expected Gabby to feel betrayed by her and thus seek {{Revenge}} on her, she probably shared many fans' thoughts that Gabby would've approached it more strategically than personally and voted out either Aiden or Tom first. After all, with Tess, her OnlyFriend left on the team, eliminated like this, Gabby now desperately needs the announcement of the merge/introduction of the immunity idol/Yellow Team's help during the challenge to survive. If Cyan Team loses again, the vote is now obvious.
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** Even if she expected Gabby to feel betrayed by her and thus seek {{Revenge}} on her, she probably shared many fans' thoughts that Gabby would've approached it more strategically than personally and voted out either Aiden or Tom first. After all, with Tess, her OnlyFriend left on the team, eliminated like this, Gabby now desperately needs the announcement of the merge/introduction of the immunity idol/Yellow Team's help during the challenge to survive. If Cyan Team loses again, the vote is now obvious.
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* Miriam's generally depicted as someone who prefers to play fair and only resorts to cheating/playing dirty when things become dire. So why is she willing to act as a distraction for the blue team when not only would she be helping two people she doesn't like, Alec and Fiore, but making things worse between her and Ellie, who doesn't like her to begin with?
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* Why does Miriam confront Ellie over the events of last episode instead of comforting Jake? She understand that what Ellie did was for the game, and at this point, she's the only person who Jake would be willing to listen to. Why not comfort him during one of his lowest moments instead of talking and chiding the one who made him so mad?
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**Miriam was hoping Ellie would give her the satisfaction of feeling ashamed of herself, which failed when Ellie quickly turned the tables on her.
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* When explaining why she's not going with Lake to ''All-Stars'', Rosa Maria says that she can't leave Sofia alone again. However, when she competed in season 2, she had her sister take care of her. Couldn't she ask her to look after her again like last time?
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**James gave Rosa 200K of the money to help her and her daughter. If that's not reason enough, there's the fact that Seasons 1 and 2 had the contestants be at the camp for 4 weeks while for All-Stars, they'll be there for 8 weeks and Rosa probably didn't want to risk being away from her daughter again, specifically now that it's a longer season.
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**James gave Rosa 200K of the money to help her and her daughter. If that's not reason enough, there's the fact that Seasons 1 and 2 had the contestants be at the camp for 4 weeks while for All-Stars, they'll be there for 8 weeks and Rosa probably didn't want to risk being away from her daughter again, specifically now that it's a longer season.
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** Season 1 took place before Season 2 and Riya's been struggling to get roles at the time, meaning she had the time to watch it.
** It's possible she wanted to keep the Villains' Alliance around for more drama. A double elimination would mean they'd lose one member.
** It's possible gaslighting Gabby wasn't their only intent, they also could've been trying to convince themselves that their actions weren't petty and that they were better than this. Neither of them probably wants to admit they can be on par with the Villains Alliance.
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** He was just that desperate, knowing they'd have strength in numbers.
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* Why does Tess assume that she can do anything to help comfort Gabby? Her swing vote's the reason why Ellie was eliminated, wouldn't it make sense for Gabby to not want to talk to her?
* Why does Yul assume that Kai's shirt is gonna fit Grett? Kai was one of the lankiest guys in Season 2, if not ''the'' lankiest, and even if Grett lost some weight she's still a bit thicker than the other contestants.
* Riya claims to have been a fan of Grett in Season 1. When did she have time to watch the season considering that she spent the year between Season 2 and All-Stars becoming a popular villainess actress?
* Considering the setup with two teams heading to elimination, why didn't Kristal turn this episode into a double elimination? She's slipping back into her old ways and she casually made episode 3 a double elimination for no reason other than amusement. Wouldn't having two teams go to elimination together be the perfect excuse to make a double elimination?
* Why does Riya try to push Ally after she pushes Gabby during one of the rounds in the slip and slide? If she wanted to throw both of them down, she surely could spread both of her arms wide at them instead of focusing on one at the time?
* Why do Aiden and Tom even bother trying to gaslit Gabby into thinking that Ellie's elimination was nothing personal and just simple strategy? Both of them were pretty ecstatic and celebrated when she was out and, in Tom's case, held a grudge against Ellie since the very beginning of the game. Gabby might be kooky, but she's not stupid, so surely they'd at least guess that she could tell the obvious lie a mile away?
* Why did Aiden need to make a speech to try get the Villain Alliance to vote out Riya? Even if he hates her, it's a VILLAIN Alliance, so surely trying to make her out to be a backstabbing traitor wouldn't work when the entire team could backstab each other at any minute?
* Riya brings a fair point during Aiden's speech: Why does he only keep bringing up the Time she nearly threw him off a cliff? Yes, that moment definitely impacted him, but Riya has done many other terrible things prior to it, like betraying Rosa Maria and exposing James. In fact, it makes less Sense here because Aiden's trying to paint her as an untrustworthy traitor, when the Cliff incident at best paints her as an attempted murderer.
* Tess calls out the Yellow Team for trying to take advantage of Gabby. Why doesn't she do the same thing to Aiden and Tom, who continue lying about Ellie's elimination being nothing personal despite the evidence to the contrary?
* Why is Tess shocked when Kristal reveals Gabby and the Villain Alliance voted for her? Even if Tom and Aiden had the most satisfaction with it, Tess' own vote was the final straw that lead to Ellie's elimination, and unlike Tom and Aiden, who Gabby nor Ellie tried to get close to for most of the game, Tess was considered their friend ever since Ellie introduced her to Gabby back in the airport. Surely it'd only make sense to assume she'd be targeted after getting Ellie out?
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** To be fair, it seems like the spaceship was more like a replica, something like in [[Recap/TotalDrama2008ASpaceOwen 2008: A Space Owen]]. Still, it is true that the replica seemed so advanced that it shouldn't be possible, especially since Kristal herself mentions they couldn't afford sending them to space with an ex-convict's salary. What's more, contestants, especially smarter ones like Alec or Ellie, should've questioned or at least suspected her initial explanation while announcing the challenge since the very beginning.
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* Why does Ally bite back when Jake tells her he wants to be alone by bringing up how he lost them the previous challenge? Wouldn't her experience with Hunter let her know that doing this is bound to cause a conflict between them?
* What was Emily expecting when she thought of the picnic idea with the paparazzi? She already knows how cranky Yul can be, wouldn't being forced to go to an arranged date and having paparazzi pester him and his supposed girlfriend logically piss him off enough to decide he's done with her?
* Yul claims he'd never cuddle with Grett when Emily suggests the idea. However, during episode 2, Grett cuddles up to him in the campfire and not only does he allow it, but smiles in doing so. So what gives?
* In what universe can an intern like Trevor be paid enough so that taking a part of it allows his boss to ''rent/buy'' a spaceship?
* What are the chances that the stuffed doll Gabby wanted to give to Ellie ALSO happened to be the one with the clue in it?
* When Grett suggests going up the air vent to get the clue, Yul mockingly suggests they need someone more athletic. Wouldn't he realize this would be him, since he's the only member of the team with spicy abs, not to mention more fit than Grett by default?
* Tom and Aiden celebrating the fact that Ellie's out makes sense, since they don't like her. But why celebrate ''right in front of Gabby'' while she's still trying to process the fact that her girlfriend just got eliminated?
* Why does Ally bite back when Jake tells her he wants to be alone by bringing up how he lost them the previous challenge? Wouldn't her experience with Hunter let her know that doing this is bound to cause a conflict between them?
* What was Emily expecting when she thought of the picnic idea with the paparazzi? She already knows how cranky Yul can be, wouldn't being forced to go to an arranged date and having paparazzi pester him and his supposed girlfriend logically piss him off enough to decide he's done with her?
* Yul claims he'd never cuddle with Grett when Emily suggests the idea. However, during episode 2, Grett cuddles up to him in the campfire and not only does he allow it, but smiles in doing so. So what gives?
* In what universe can an intern like Trevor be paid enough so that taking a part of it allows his boss to ''rent/buy'' a spaceship?
* What are the chances that the stuffed doll Gabby wanted to give to Ellie ALSO happened to be the one with the clue in it?
* When Grett suggests going up the air vent to get the clue, Yul mockingly suggests they need someone more athletic. Wouldn't he realize this would be him, since he's the only member of the team with spicy abs, not to mention more fit than Grett by default?
* Tom and Aiden celebrating the fact that Ellie's out makes sense, since they don't like her. But why celebrate ''right in front of Gabby'' while she's still trying to process the fact that her girlfriend just got eliminated?
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