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*** The most likely explanation is that Vilkiss didn't fully understand the nature of the threat. The two times it teleported away, it was facing Embryo's temporal cannons which is something you want to run from, not try to defend against, and the second, Ange specifically ordered it to "fly" because it was pinned down by Salia, Ersha and Chris with grappling cables.
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** There's three possible (if not certain) sources for genetic material to ensure diversity.
*** 1.) The ancient ruins on True Earth. (The Dragons had to repopulate from there, and at least one shelter is still fully functional as Tusk and Ange found out.)
*** 2.) The med bay on the Aurora. It ''was'' the base for the last remainder of pre-mana humanity. There could be samples there, provided the med bay wasn't destroyed in the final battle.
*** 3.) Embryo's lab on "True Arsenal." He had to have some material besides his own an Ange's for the sake of "starting over."
*** 1.) The ancient ruins on True Earth. (The Dragons had to repopulate from there, and at least one shelter is still fully functional as Tusk and Ange found out.)
*** 2.) The med bay on the Aurora. It ''was'' the base for the last remainder of pre-mana humanity. There could be samples there, provided the med bay wasn't destroyed in the final battle.
*** 3.) Embryo's lab on "True Arsenal." He had to have some material besides his own an Ange's for the sake of "starting over."
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** Misty knows about Arzenal, the predominance of "humans" don't. Emma lives in Arzenal, and she's somewhat reasonable.
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** Embryo may have some godlike abilities, but he didn't create the Mana-humans from scratch: he genetically engineered them from original humanity. He had to have brought some old humans to the "false" Earth from the original as a starting point. The "Ancient Humans" are simply the last remnants of the unaltered humanity.
** The Dragon-men are stated to "assume Dragon form" and the doctor also notes that none of the women have seen an ''adult'' male human in their lives, suggesting that the men are born human but change into Dragons before adulthood. Further, the Dragon women are able to go back and forth between their Dragon and human forms, so there's no reason to assume the men cannot as well. Admittedly, this does beg the question of ''why'' only the women of the Dragon society live as humans, while ''none'' of the men do?
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** Riza's not an expert on the subject though: she's lived among the Mana-humans for a while, but that's all. Embryo (aka the guy that actually ''created'' the Mana-humans) implies that the Mana-humans are simply easy to manipulate: he told them to hate Norma, and they did without any resistance. This is one of the things he sees as being "wrong" with the Mana-humans: they're too easily manipulated.
* They never did explain why the song is activation code to unlock the full power of a Ragna-mail now didthey?they?
** Embryo says something about the song being "scientific laws in musical form" (probably just refers to the tune, not the lyrics). Since he also built most of the Ragna-mails (or at least re-engineered them for combat), he may have set that song as the trigger as a kind of poetic justice: the ultimate weapon is only unleashed by invoking universal law.
* They never did explain why the song is activation code to unlock the full power of a Ragna-mail now did
** Embryo says something about the song being "scientific laws in musical form" (probably just refers to the tune, not the lyrics). Since he also built most of the Ragna-mails (or at least re-engineered them for combat), he may have set that song as the trigger as a kind of poetic justice: the ultimate weapon is only unleashed by invoking universal law.
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** Riza said in episode 22 "The humans were programmed to instinctively despise the Norma." Unless it's just a fansub choice, that makes it sound like they're not simply taught to hate Norma, but rather their brains are wired to compel them to hate Norma beyond all reason.
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** Riza said in episode 22 "The humans were programmed to instinctively despise the Norma." Unless it's just a fansub choice, that makes it sound like they're not simply taught to hate Norma, but rather their brains are wired to compel them to hate Norma beyond all reason.reason.
* They never did explain why the song is activation code to unlock the full power of a Ragna-mail now did they?
* They never did explain why the song is activation code to unlock the full power of a Ragna-mail now did they?
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** Because they're not hard-wired. Just indoctrinated. In other words, nurture, not nature. After all, Ange herself hated normas, until she found out she was one.
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** Because they're not hard-wired. Just indoctrinated. In other words, nurture, not nature. After all, Ange herself hated normas, until she found out she was one.one.
** Riza said in episode 22 "The humans were programmed to instinctively despise the Norma." Unless it's just a fansub choice, that makes it sound like they're not simply taught to hate Norma, but rather their brains are wired to compel them to hate Norma beyond all reason.
** Riza said in episode 22 "The humans were programmed to instinctively despise the Norma." Unless it's just a fansub choice, that makes it sound like they're not simply taught to hate Norma, but rather their brains are wired to compel them to hate Norma beyond all reason.
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* If Mana-using humans are basically hard-wired to despise Norma, what's the deal with Misty? Momoka I can understand because of her UndyingLoyalty to Ange, but considering how unbelievably irrational the hatred toward Norma is in this show, Misty doesn't have much of an excuse for her brain not being programmed to spew hatred at Norma on sight.
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***That was in episode 15, prior to Ange making a move on Hilda. So, given the current status of things, it's possible with at least Hilda.
* If Mana-using humans are basically hard-wired to despise Norma, what's the deal with Misty? Momoka I can understand because of her UndyingLoyalty to Ange, but considering how unbelievably irrational the hatred toward Norma is in this show, Misty doesn't have much of an excuse for her brain not being programmed to spew hatred at Norma onsight.sight.
** Because they're not hard-wired. Just indoctrinated. In other words, nurture, not nature. After all, Ange herself hated normas, until she found out she was one.
* If Mana-using humans are basically hard-wired to despise Norma, what's the deal with Misty? Momoka I can understand because of her UndyingLoyalty to Ange, but considering how unbelievably irrational the hatred toward Norma is in this show, Misty doesn't have much of an excuse for her brain not being programmed to spew hatred at Norma on
** Because they're not hard-wired. Just indoctrinated. In other words, nurture, not nature. After all, Ange herself hated normas, until she found out she was one.
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** I believe it's clear that Ange will not allow Tusk to consummate with anyone other than her. Also, considering the dragon girls are born with dragon traits, the theory that males are treated differently doesn't hold up.
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** I believe it's clear that Ange will not allow Tusk to consummate with anyone other than her. Also, considering the dragon girls are born with dragon traits, the theory that males are treated differently doesn't hold up.up.
* If Mana-using humans are basically hard-wired to despise Norma, what's the deal with Misty? Momoka I can understand because of her UndyingLoyalty to Ange, but considering how unbelievably irrational the hatred toward Norma is in this show, Misty doesn't have much of an excuse for her brain not being programmed to spew hatred at Norma on sight.
* If Mana-using humans are basically hard-wired to despise Norma, what's the deal with Misty? Momoka I can understand because of her UndyingLoyalty to Ange, but considering how unbelievably irrational the hatred toward Norma is in this show, Misty doesn't have much of an excuse for her brain not being programmed to spew hatred at Norma on sight.
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** I believe it's clear that Ange will not allow Tusk to consummate with anyone other than her. Also, considering the girls are born with dragon traits, the males being treated differently doesn't hold up.
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** I believe it's clear that Ange will not allow Tusk to consummate with anyone other than her. Also, considering the dragon girls are born with dragon traits, the theory that males being are treated differently doesn't hold up.
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** Remember, Salako stated that males transform into massive dragons out of duty. They may not be born that way, meaning: Tusk has a harem out of necessity, then g1 is a bunch of half-siblings with a common father, then the dragons (who are humans) keep a few males around in reserve.
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** Remember, Salako stated that males transform into massive dragons out of duty. They may not be born that way, meaning: Tusk has a harem out of necessity, then g1 is a bunch of half-siblings with a common father, then the dragons (who are humans) keep a few males around in reserve.reserve.
** I believe it's clear that Ange will not allow Tusk to consummate with anyone other than her. Also, considering the girls are born with dragon traits, the males being treated differently doesn't hold up.
** I believe it's clear that Ange will not allow Tusk to consummate with anyone other than her. Also, considering the girls are born with dragon traits, the males being treated differently doesn't hold up.
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* So, considering how Ange (and everyone else) has officially disowned humanity. How the hell are they going to reproduce (there being only '''''one''''' man whom they're willing to accept, while the other men are either dead or with Sylvia)? Hell, are they even planning to have decedents?
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* So, considering how Ange (and everyone else) has officially disowned humanity. How the hell are they going to reproduce (there being only '''''one''''' man whom they're willing to accept, while the other men are either dead or with Sylvia)? Hell, are they even planning to have decedents?decedents?
** Remember, Salako stated that males transform into massive dragons out of duty. They may not be born that way, meaning: Tusk has a harem out of necessity, then g1 is a bunch of half-siblings with a common father, then the dragons (who are humans) keep a few males around in reserve.
** Remember, Salako stated that males transform into massive dragons out of duty. They may not be born that way, meaning: Tusk has a harem out of necessity, then g1 is a bunch of half-siblings with a common father, then the dragons (who are humans) keep a few males around in reserve.
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* If the old Humanity are the last descendents of old Earth, how were they able to go to new Earth and why?
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* If the old Humanity are the last descendents of old Earth, how were they able to go to new Earth and why?why?
* So, considering how Ange (and everyone else) has officially disowned humanity. How the hell are they going to reproduce (there being only '''''one''''' man whom they're willing to accept, while the other men are either dead or with Sylvia)? Hell, are they even planning to have decedents?
* So, considering how Ange (and everyone else) has officially disowned humanity. How the hell are they going to reproduce (there being only '''''one''''' man whom they're willing to accept, while the other men are either dead or with Sylvia)? Hell, are they even planning to have decedents?
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* If the old Humanity are the last descendents of old Earth, how were they able to got to new Earth and why?
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* If the old Humanity are the last descendents of old Earth, how were they able to got go to new Earth and why?
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* Was there even a point in that final upgrade for Vilkiss? Other than changing its color scheme?
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* Was there even a point in that final upgrade for Vilkiss? Other than changing its color scheme?scheme?
* If the old Humanity are the last descendents of old Earth, how were they able to got to new Earth and why?
* If the old Humanity are the last descendents of old Earth, how were they able to got to new Earth and why?
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** It's not just you. He clearly gained more prominence than originally planned.
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** It's not just you. He clearly gained more prominence than originally planned.planned.
* Was there even a point in that final upgrade for Vilkiss? Other than changing its color scheme?
* Was there even a point in that final upgrade for Vilkiss? Other than changing its color scheme?
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** It's not just you.
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** It's not just you. He clearly gained more prominence than originally planned.
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* Is it just me or did Tusk just hijack the final episode and became the protagonist instead of Ange? [[spoiler: While both of them did kill Embryo, Ange only killed his true body while Tusk deals the final blow.]]
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* Is it just me or did Tusk just hijack the final episode and became the protagonist instead of Ange? [[spoiler: While both of them did kill Embryo, Ange only killed his true body while Tusk deals the final blow.]]]]
** It's not just you.
** It's not just you.
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* Is it just me or did Tusk just hijack the final episode and became the protagonist instead of Ange? [[spoiler: While both of them did kill Embryo, Ange only killed his true body while Tusk deals the final blow.]]
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** When Embryo pulls out the revolver,[[spoiler: why revolver, [[spoiler:why didn't he just shoot Tusk right there and then instead of just shooting himself to quickly get to where Ange and Momoka were at?]]
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** Why didn't the Vilkiss just teleport like the last two times when being in danger, instead used the beam shield?
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** Why When Chris attempted to snipe Ange, why didn't the Vilkiss just teleport like the last two times when being in danger, instead used the beam shield?
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* When Embryo pulls out the revolver in episode 21, [[spoiler: why didn't he just shoot Tusk right there and then instead of just shooting himself to quickly get to where Ange and Momoka were at?]]
** He cares more about Ange than killing Tusk.
** He cares more about Ange than killing Tusk.
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* In episode 21,
** When Embryo pulls out therevolver in episode 21, [[spoiler: revolver,[[spoiler: why didn't he just shoot Tusk right there and then instead of just shooting himself to quickly get to where Ange and Momoka were at?]]
** *** He cares more about Ange than killing Tusk.Tusk.
** Why didn't the Vilkiss just teleport like the last two times when being in danger, instead used the beam shield?
** When Embryo pulls out the
** Why didn't the Vilkiss just teleport like the last two times when being in danger, instead used the beam shield?
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* When Embryo pulls out the revolver in episode 21, [[spoiler: why didn't he just shoot Tusk right there and then instead of just shooting himself to quickly get to where Ange and Momoka were at?]]
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* When Embryo pulls out the revolver in episode 21, [[spoiler: why didn't he just shoot Tusk right there and then instead of just shooting himself to quickly get to where Ange and Momoka were at?]]at?]]
** He cares more about Ange than killing Tusk.
** He cares more about Ange than killing Tusk.
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** Considering that the same weapon that broke DRAGON shields with one shot did not even irreparably damaged the lightest-armored Para-mail, they were definitely holding back. Shooting in the direction of the Aurora seems to be part of Salia's plan to capture Ange by forcing her and her group to stay and protect the sub rather than teleporting away like last time.
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** Considering that the same weapon that broke DRAGON shields with one shot did not even irreparably damaged the lightest-armored Para-mail, they were definitely holding back. Shooting in the direction of the Aurora seems to be part of Salia's plan to capture Ange by forcing her and her group to stay and protect the sub rather than teleporting away like last time.time.
* When Embryo pulls out the revolver in episode 21, [[spoiler: why didn't he just shoot Tusk right there and then instead of just shooting himself to quickly get to where Ange and Momoka were at?]]
* When Embryo pulls out the revolver in episode 21, [[spoiler: why didn't he just shoot Tusk right there and then instead of just shooting himself to quickly get to where Ange and Momoka were at?]]
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* So in episode 19, somehow Ersha and Chris can't hit a stationary submarine with most of its personnel just waking up from the gas incident, yet is capable of hitting a smaller Para-mail. And considering Vivian was shot down, there was no way they were holding back at that point ([[spoiler:even Salia shot Ange in her chest]]). Did they somehow have accuracy skills compared to [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Lunamaria?]]
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* So in episode 19, somehow Ersha and Chris can't hit a stationary submarine with most of its personnel just waking up from the gas incident, yet is capable of hitting a smaller Para-mail. And considering Vivian was shot down, there was no way they were holding back at that point ([[spoiler:even Salia shot Ange in her chest]]). Did they somehow have accuracy skills compared to [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Lunamaria?]]Lunamaria?]]
** Considering that the same weapon that broke DRAGON shields with one shot did not even irreparably damaged the lightest-armored Para-mail, they were definitely holding back. Shooting in the direction of the Aurora seems to be part of Salia's plan to capture Ange by forcing her and her group to stay and protect the sub rather than teleporting away like last time.
** Considering that the same weapon that broke DRAGON shields with one shot did not even irreparably damaged the lightest-armored Para-mail, they were definitely holding back. Shooting in the direction of the Aurora seems to be part of Salia's plan to capture Ange by forcing her and her group to stay and protect the sub rather than teleporting away like last time.
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* So in episode 19, somehow Ersha and Chris can't hit a stationary submarine with most of its personnel just waking up from the gas incident, yet is capable of hitting a smaller Para-mail. And considering Vivian was shot down, there was no way they were holding back at that point ([[spoiler: even ([[spoiler:even Salia shot Ange in her chest]]). Did they somehow have accuracy skills compared to [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Lunamaria?]]
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**** Ange did not just took out the arms, she sliced them both off with brute force, while Salia was having an emotional breakdown.
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**** Ange did not just took out the arms, she sliced them both off with brute force, while Salia was having an emotional breakdown.breakdown.
* So in episode 19, somehow Ersha and Chris can't hit a stationary submarine with most of its personnel just waking up from the gas incident, yet is capable of hitting a smaller Para-mail. And considering Vivian was shot down, there was no way they were holding back at that point ([[spoiler: even Salia shot Ange in her chest]]). Did they somehow have accuracy skills compared to [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Lunamaria?]]
* So in episode 19, somehow Ersha and Chris can't hit a stationary submarine with most of its personnel just waking up from the gas incident, yet is capable of hitting a smaller Para-mail. And considering Vivian was shot down, there was no way they were holding back at that point ([[spoiler: even Salia shot Ange in her chest]]). Did they somehow have accuracy skills compared to [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Lunamaria?]]
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*** Okay I can deal with that, but then why did Salia fall in the ocean. The only thing Ange took out were her arms instead of her propulsion systems.
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*** Okay I can deal with that, but then why did Salia fall in the ocean. The only thing Ange took out were her arms instead of her propulsion systems.systems.
**** Ange did not just took out the arms, she sliced them both off with brute force, while Salia was having an emotional breakdown.
**** Ange did not just took out the arms, she sliced them both off with brute force, while Salia was having an emotional breakdown.
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** Salia was trying to stop Ange from getting involved in the fight on Jill's orders. It was more insurance to keep Salia out of her way than paranoia because Salia has that undying loyalty to Jill.
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** Salia was trying to stop Ange from getting involved in the fight on Jill's orders. It was more insurance to keep Salia out of her way than paranoia because Salia has that undying loyalty to Jill.Jill.
*** Okay I can deal with that, but then why did Salia fall in the ocean. The only thing Ange took out were her arms instead of her propulsion systems.
*** Okay I can deal with that, but then why did Salia fall in the ocean. The only thing Ange took out were her arms instead of her propulsion systems.
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* In episode 13, why did Ange have to go the trouble of [[spoiler: slicing Salia's Arquebus' arms? Was she that paranoid that Salia may BackStab her while she's dealing with a fleet?]]
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**Salia was trying to stop Ange from getting involved in the fight on Jill's orders. It was more insurance to keep Salia out of her way than paranoia because Salia has that undying loyalty to Jill.
**Salia was trying to stop Ange from getting involved in the fight on Jill's orders. It was more insurance to keep Salia out of her way than paranoia because Salia has that undying loyalty to Jill.
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* In episode 13, why did Ange have to go the trouble of [[spoiler: slicing Salia's Arquebus' arms? Was she that paranoid that Salia may BackStab her while she's dealing with a fleet?]]
