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** Not only does modern gunpowder contain its own oxidizer, modern cartridges are actually pretty much airtight, to prevent them from being ruined by moisture in the air. This, in fact, just bugs me about {{Firefly}}, where Jayne claims his rifle needs air to fire. As for what effect firing a gun in a vacuum might have---well, the chief problem I can see is that with no ambient pressure, you run a risk of the chamber bursting. Presumably, Spike rolled the dice on that and got lucky.

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** Not only does modern gunpowder contain its own oxidizer, modern cartridges are actually pretty much airtight, to prevent them from being ruined by moisture in the air. This, in fact, just bugs me about {{Firefly}}, ''{{Series/Firefly}}'', where Jayne claims his rifle needs air to fire. As for what effect firing a gun in a vacuum might have---well, the chief problem I can see is that with no ambient pressure, you run a risk of the chamber bursting. Presumably, Spike rolled the dice on that and got lucky.
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*** Hey, it could've been Vicious' star.
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** Something much more confusing about Hex's plot was the fact it even worked. Think about it, how can you possibly insert a program into a computer set to go off in 50 years to hire people to sabotage a piece of technology in a very specific way. Have the Gates really not [[TechnologyMarchesOn undergone any major hardware or software updates in all that time]], [[FridgeHorror even after the disaster]] Hex was fired before? If so, then the Gate Corp must have a monopoly on interplanetary travel (otherwise they'd have to innovate in order to compete). Also confusing is the apparent lack of security for the Gates, you'd think such vital infrastructure would be better protected. The financial aspect also doesn't make sense: the currency is digital so you'd have to hack into the bank account in order to change the transaction amount, and banks certainly have more insentive to improve security in 50 years than Gate Corp does. The fact that Hex was also able to pre-program untraceable transactions also puts him way past being TheChessmaster into TheOmniscient.

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** Something much more confusing about Hex's plot was the fact it even worked. Think about it, how can you possibly insert a program into a computer set to go off in 50 years to hire people to sabotage a piece of technology in a very specific way. Have the Gates really not [[TechnologyMarchesOn undergone any major hardware or software updates in all that time]], [[FridgeHorror even after the disaster]] Hex was fired before? If so, then the Gate Corp must have a monopoly on interplanetary travel (otherwise they'd have to innovate in order to compete). Also confusing is the apparent lack of security for the Gates, you'd think such vital infrastructure would be better protected. The financial aspect also doesn't make sense: the currency is digital so you'd have to hack into the bank account in order to change the transaction amount, and banks certainly have more insentive incentive to improve security in 50 years than Gate Corp does. The fact that Hex was also able to pre-program untraceable transactions also puts him way past being TheChessmaster into TheOmniscient.
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** Something much more confusing about Hex's plot was the fact it even worked. Think about it, how can you possibly insert a program into a computer set to go off in 50 years to hire people to sabotage a piece of technology in a very specific way. Have the Gates really not [TechnologyMarchesOn undergone any major hardware or software updates in all that time], [FridgeHorror even after the disaster] Hex was fired before? If so, then the Gate Corp must have a monopoly on interplanetary travel (otherwise they'd have to innovate in order to compete). Also confusing is the apparent lack of security for the Gates, you'd think such vital infrastructure would be better protected. The financial aspect also doesn't make sense: the currency is digital so you'd have to hack into the bank account in order to change the transaction amount, and banks certainly have more insentive to improve security in 50 years than Gate Corp does. The fact that Hex was also able to pre-program untraceable transactions also puts him way past being TheChessmaster into TheOmniscient.

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** Something much more confusing about Hex's plot was the fact it even worked. Think about it, how can you possibly insert a program into a computer set to go off in 50 years to hire people to sabotage a piece of technology in a very specific way. Have the Gates really not [TechnologyMarchesOn [[TechnologyMarchesOn undergone any major hardware or software updates in all that time], [FridgeHorror time]], [[FridgeHorror even after the disaster] disaster]] Hex was fired before? If so, then the Gate Corp must have a monopoly on interplanetary travel (otherwise they'd have to innovate in order to compete). Also confusing is the apparent lack of security for the Gates, you'd think such vital infrastructure would be better protected. The financial aspect also doesn't make sense: the currency is digital so you'd have to hack into the bank account in order to change the transaction amount, and banks certainly have more insentive to improve security in 50 years than Gate Corp does. The fact that Hex was also able to pre-program untraceable transactions also puts him way past being TheChessmaster into TheOmniscient.
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** Facing the prospect of your death is less terrifying then literally facing death head on. He knew it wouldn't be instant, he was given ample time to prepare himself. Beyond that it seems likely that Mad Pierrot was also just that damn terrifying. He kicked the crap out of Spike so easily he was completely completed horrified someone like that could exist.

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** Facing the prospect of your death is less terrifying then literally facing death head on. He knew it wouldn't be instant, he was given ample time to prepare himself. Beyond that it seems likely that Mad Pierrot was also just that damn terrifying. He kicked the crap out of Spike so easily he was completely completed horrified someone like that could exist.exist.
* The episode where Faye gets involved with collecting a Casino Chip from Spike, it contains data for accessing a major computer program that the equivalent of Interpol has been looking for years for. Why, after the "bad guys" are killed, is the chip worthless after the episode is over? Wouldnt there still be a reward from the Interpol group?
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****This was my thought, too. My impression is they are relatively successful hunters, and the episodes only focus on high-profile or particularly notable cases.
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** Facing the prospect of your death is less terrifying then literally facing death head on. He knew it wouldn't be instant, he was given ample time to prepare himself. Beyond that it seems likely that Mad Pierrot was also just that damn terrifying. He kicked the crap out of Spike so easily he was completely completed horrified someone like that could exist.
* How could Twinkle Murdoch be so cruel? She's a woman!

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** Facing the prospect of your death is less terrifying then literally facing death head on. He knew it wouldn't be instant, he was given ample time to prepare himself. Beyond that it seems likely that Mad Pierrot was also just that damn terrifying. He kicked the crap out of Spike so easily he was completely completed horrified someone like that could exist.
* How could Twinkle Murdoch be so cruel? She's a woman!
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** Facing the prospect of your death is less terrifying then literally facing death head on. He knew it wouldn't be instant, he was given ample time to prepare himself. Beyond that it seems likely that Mad Pierrot was also just that damn terrifying. He kicked the crap out of Spike so easily he was completely completed horrified someone like that could exist.

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** Facing the prospect of your death is less terrifying then literally facing death head on. He knew it wouldn't be instant, he was given ample time to prepare himself. Beyond that it seems likely that Mad Pierrot was also just that damn terrifying. He kicked the crap out of Spike so easily he was completely completed horrified someone like that could exist.exist.
* How could Twinkle Murdoch be so cruel? She's a woman!

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**** And not particularly found of conforting each other...or are they?

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**** And not particularly found fond of conforting comforting each other...or are they?



**** [[SincerityMode Thank you, kind Troper.]]
* The series is generally realistic is its violence and the results of which upon the human body (I.E. despite being cool and {{Badass}}, Spike still gets shot and cut all the time and suffers somewhat realistic physical damage to himself because of it, requiring recuperation). How then, after getting thrown backwards and upside down out of a church window which must have been somewhere between 50-150 feet off the ground, and landing most likely head-first upon stone/concrete, on the middle of a staircase no less, does he just get wrapped up in big bandaids, lie around for a week, and then is right as rain. And this was in one of the most serious episodes in the show no less.

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**** [[SincerityMode Thank you, kind Troper.]]
* The series is generally realistic is its violence and the results of which upon the human body (I.E. despite being cool and {{Badass}}, Spike still gets shot and cut all the time and suffers somewhat realistic physical damage to himself because of it, requiring recuperation). How then, after getting thrown backwards and upside down out of a church window which must have been somewhere between 50-150 feet off the ground, and landing most likely head-first upon stone/concrete, on the middle of a staircase no less, does he just get wrapped up in big bandaids, band-aids, lie around for a week, and then is right as rain. And this was in one of the most serious episodes in the show no less.
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** Either that or they've all genetically modified themselves to be immune to the ill effects of tobacco, a la Transmetropolitan.
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** Maybe Vicious blew it up, to set the scene? Vicious is Spike's dark mirror- just as Spike has no real ambition beyond Julia, Vicious has no real ambition beyond Spike. Once Vicious took over the Red Dragons, he had nothing to live for, and wanted to go out with style, just as Spike did.
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*** I will now think of this show as ScoobyDoo [[RecycledInSpace in space]]. That should be the new laconic.

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*** I will now think of this show as ScoobyDoo Franchise/ScoobyDoo [[RecycledInSpace in space]]. That should be the new laconic.

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* Despite the number of corpses that nd up appearing, our heroes don't want to kill their bounties that's made quite clear. So why doesn't Spike carry tranquilizers? Jupiter Jazz Part 1 shows that this universe has tranqs that are powerful enough to work instantly and can even be fired with enough force to knock a man off his feet. Seems like it'd be the optimal weapon for bounty hunters.

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** At the end during the credits the scene pans up and up and up into space where we see a star go out. Combining that with what the MagicalNativeAmerican said earlier, that each person has a guardian star that goes out when they die...yeah, he's dead.
* Despite the number of corpses that nd end up appearing, our heroes don't want to kill their bounties that's made quite clear. So why doesn't Spike carry tranquilizers? Jupiter Jazz Part 1 shows that this universe has tranqs that are powerful enough to work instantly and can even be fired with enough force to knock a man off his feet. Seems like it'd be the optimal weapon for bounty hunters.
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*** It's been stated that the drug which gave him his breasts is highly addictive. He probably still takes it because he ''has'' to.
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** Gren could be genderfluid or something similar as a result of his trauma. He's is already very pretty and feminine, so many growing breasts and having his hormones screwed up lead to a personality divergence? When he compresses his chest he's the male side, but when they're loose he becomes she? He even stated that he's neither and both. Or maybe he's just so far gone that he just doesn't give a shit about anything but getting back at Vicious.
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** Also, what good is a Main/{{Lupin III}} Main/{{Shout Out}} with no Fujiko? Mainly breasts, though.

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** Also, what good is a Main/{{Lupin Franchise/{{Lupin III}} Main/{{Shout Out}} with no Fujiko? Mainly breasts, though.
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*** There has to be some sort of ventilation system to circulate the air as part of the ship's life support. The smoke is probably just following the currents to the nearest vent.
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* this troper had a thought. In episode 19, when spike was [[spoiler: about to crash onto the planet's surface]], he wasn't worried about the danger one bit. however, in episode 20 when spike was [[spoiler: fighting mad Pierrot]] spike had a look of fear on his face when [[spoiler: Pierrot had bested him and was about to kill him]]. Considering how spike's personality is, why does freeze up the way he did in episode 20?

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* this troper had a thought. In episode 19, when spike was [[spoiler: about to crash onto the planet's surface]], he wasn't worried about the danger one bit. however, in episode 20 when spike was [[spoiler: fighting mad Pierrot]] spike had a look of fear on his face when [[spoiler: Pierrot had bested him and was about to kill him]]. Considering how spike's personality is, why does freeze up the way he did in episode 20?20?
**Facing the prospect of your death is less terrifying then literally facing death head on. He knew it wouldn't be instant, he was given ample time to prepare himself. Beyond that it seems likely that Mad Pierrot was also just that damn terrifying. He kicked the crap out of Spike so easily he was completely completed horrified someone like that could exist.

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** This troper has always interpreted the falling star definerently: [[spoiler: Its not a representation of Gren's death, but being Gren him/herself. After Gren's ship was sent away from Jupiter's orbit, it eventually found its way to Mars where it got caught in the gravity well and burned up like regular meteor. To an observer on the ground, it would look like a falling star]]. True, it would take a while for this to happen. But they never specify when the scene with the mystic takes place relative to everything else, so it still can fit.

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** This troper has always interpreted the falling star definerently: [[spoiler: Its not a representation of Gren's death, but being Gren him/herself. After Gren's ship was sent away from Jupiter's orbit, it eventually found its way to Mars where it got caught in the gravity well and burned up like regular meteor. To an observer on the ground, it would look like a falling star]]. True, it would take a while for this to happen. But they never specify when the scene with the mystic takes place relative to everything else, so it still can fit. fit.
*** Based on Bull's speech to Jet in The Real Folk Blues pt. 2, [[spoiler: it seems as though it's Gren's "guardian star" that dies with him.]]
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* this troper had a thought. In episode 19, when spike was [[spoiler: about to crash onto the planet's surface]], he wasn't worried about the danger one bit. however, in episode 20 when spike was [[spoiler: fighting mad Pierrot]] the first time spike had a look of fear on his face when [[spoiler: Pierrot had bested him and was about to kill him]]. Considering how spike's personality is, why does freeze up the way he did in episode 20?

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* this troper had a thought. In episode 19, when spike was [[spoiler: about to crash onto the planet's surface]], he wasn't worried about the danger one bit. however, in episode 20 when spike was [[spoiler: fighting mad Pierrot]] the first time Pierrot]] spike had a look of fear on his face when [[spoiler: Pierrot had bested him and was about to kill him]]. Considering how spike's personality is, why does freeze up the way he did in episode 20?
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** Probably they're more expensive than bullets.

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** Probably they're more expensive than bullets.bullets.
*this troper had a thought. In episode 19, when spike was [[spoiler: about to crash onto the planet's surface]], he wasn't worried about the danger one bit. however, in episode 20 when spike was [[spoiler: fighting mad Pierrot]] the first time spike had a look of fear on his face when [[spoiler: Pierrot had bested him and was about to kill him]]. Considering how spike's personality is, why does freeze up the way he did in episode 20?
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* Despite the number of corpses that nd up appearing, our heroes don't want to kill their bounties that's made quite clear. So why doesn't Spike carry tranquilizers? Jupiter Jazz Part 1 shows that this universe has tranqs that are powerful enough to work instantly and can even be fired with enough force to knock a man off his feet. Seems like it'd be the optimal weapon for bounty hunters.

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* Despite the number of corpses that nd up appearing, our heroes don't want to kill their bounties that's made quite clear. So why doesn't Spike carry tranquilizers? Jupiter Jazz Part 1 shows that this universe has tranqs that are powerful enough to work instantly and can even be fired with enough force to knock a man off his feet. Seems like it'd be the optimal weapon for bounty hunters.hunters.
** Probably they're more expensive than bullets.
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** He also survived the multi-story drop onto the pavement in "Jupiter Jazz Part 2". Spike's MadeOfIron and medical technology has advanced, he could make it if someone got him to the doctor really quickly. As for the goons, they're technically under his command now. They could be the ones who get the doctors.

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** He also survived the multi-story drop onto the pavement in "Jupiter Jazz Part 2". Spike's MadeOfIron and medical technology has advanced, he could make it if someone got him to the doctor really quickly. As for the goons, they're technically under his command now. They could be the ones who get the doctors.doctors.
*Despite the number of corpses that nd up appearing, our heroes don't want to kill their bounties that's made quite clear. So why doesn't Spike carry tranquilizers? Jupiter Jazz Part 1 shows that this universe has tranqs that are powerful enough to work instantly and can even be fired with enough force to knock a man off his feet. Seems like it'd be the optimal weapon for bounty hunters.

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** He also survived the multi-story drop onto the pavement in "Jupiter Jazz Part 2". Spike's MadeOfIron and medical technology has advanced, he could make it if someone got him to the doctor really quickly. As for the goons, they're technically under his command now. They could be the ones who get the doctors.
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** He also survived the multi-story drop onto the pavement in "Jupiter Jazz Part 2". Spike's MadeOfIron and medical technology has advanced, he could make it if someone got him to the doctor really quickly. As for the goons, they're technically under his command now. They could be the ones who get the doctors.
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** He also survived the multi-story drop onto the pavement in "Jupiter Jazz Part 2". Spike's MadeOfIron and medical technology has advanced, he could make it if someone got him to the doctor really quickly. As for the goons, they're technically under his command now. They could be the ones who get the doctors.
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* I'm confused about how episode 4 ended, [[spoiler:did they fail or not?]]
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** Slmething much more confusing about Hex's plot was the fact it even worked. Think about it, how can you possibly insert a program into a computer set to go off in 50 years to hire people to sabotage a piece of technology in a very specific way. Have the Gates really not [TechnologyMarchesOn] undergone any major hardware or software updates in all that time], [FridgeHorro even after the disaster] Hex was fired before? If so, then the Gate Corp must have a monopoly on interplanetary travel (otherwise they'd have to innovate in order to compete). Also confusing is the apparent lack of security for the Gates, you'd think something so vital would be better protected. The financial aspect also doesn't make sense: the currency is digital so you'd have to hack into the bank account in order to change the transaction amount, and banks certainly have more insentive to improve security in 50 years than Gate Corp does. The fact that Hex was also able to pre-program untraceable transactions also puts him way past being TheChessmaster into TheOmnisentient.

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** Slmething Something much more confusing about Hex's plot was the fact it even worked. Think about it, how can you possibly insert a program into a computer set to go off in 50 years to hire people to sabotage a piece of technology in a very specific way. Have the Gates really not [TechnologyMarchesOn] [TechnologyMarchesOn undergone any major hardware or software updates in all that time], [FridgeHorro [FridgeHorror even after the disaster] Hex was fired before? If so, then the Gate Corp must have a monopoly on interplanetary travel (otherwise they'd have to innovate in order to compete). Also confusing is the apparent lack of security for the Gates, you'd think something so such vital infrastructure would be better protected. The financial aspect also doesn't make sense: the currency is digital so you'd have to hack into the bank account in order to change the transaction amount, and banks certainly have more insentive to improve security in 50 years than Gate Corp does. The fact that Hex was also able to pre-program untraceable transactions also puts him way past being TheChessmaster into TheOmnisentient.TheOmniscient.
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*** That did seem odd to me too. They suffer from PerpetualPoverty so they might as well have asked for money, and there was no indication that they should worry about being double-crossed. Gate Corp is probably the only organization they encounter that doesn't want to kill people, so WhatTheHellHero? They didn't even care about the fact that hundreds if not thousands of people have had their accounts drained.
** Slmething much more confusing about Hex's plot was the fact it even worked. Think about it, how can you possibly insert a program into a computer set to go off in 50 years to hire people to sabotage a piece of technology in a very specific way. Have the Gates really not [TechnologyMarchesOn] undergone any major hardware or software updates in all that time], [FridgeHorro even after the disaster] Hex was fired before? If so, then the Gate Corp must have a monopoly on interplanetary travel (otherwise they'd have to innovate in order to compete). Also confusing is the apparent lack of security for the Gates, you'd think something so vital would be better protected. The financial aspect also doesn't make sense: the currency is digital so you'd have to hack into the bank account in order to change the transaction amount, and banks certainly have more insentive to improve security in 50 years than Gate Corp does. The fact that Hex was also able to pre-program untraceable transactions also puts him way past being TheChessmaster into TheOmnisentient.
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*** One question about that episode's end, why didn't Jet and company [[spoiler:go public with that knowledge?]]
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* I'm confused about how episode 4 ended, [[spoiler:did they fail or not?]]

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