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** If Ernesto was any good at writing, he probably wouldn't have had to murder his friend to steal his works ''or'' life film dialogue ''directly from'' that very murder.
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** The part of a hair that's emerged from your scalp is dead already, even if the rest of you is still alive, and it decomposes only slowly, sometimes outlasting a dead body's smaller bones. If people get to retain the non-living mineral components of their bones and teeth in the Land of the Dead, then retaining their non-living hair shafts along with them isn't unreasonable.
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** Imelda was also the ''de facto'' head of the entire Rivera clan, whose proclamations' authority persisted even after her death. If anyone in the family rates a ''powerful'' alebrije, she does.


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* For that matter, how the heck did the Riveras avoid music at ''church''? Singing psalms is a normal part of most Catholic worship services, and no amount of griping by Imelda or Elena is going to force the local Padre to leave out the mandatory hymns and organ music for, say, the Rivera children's confirmations.
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** No-one said anything about ''hearing'' music - it's clear they know what music is, it's just that they are not allowed to listen to it or play it.
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** When Coco becomes lucid again in the climax, she tells Miguel that her father "used to ''sing'' that song for me," not that he ''wrote'' it. As far as Coco is concerned, it was already a well-known song that her father thought would be nice to sing for her. And with Imelda's ban on music, she would never have been able to discover that the song was first "released" ''after'' her father had left the family.
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** Also worth remembering that the stagehand falls on the lever and forces it all the way over. It's likely that the lever is designed to be operated carefully to lower the bell gently before releasing, but the stagehand ended up breaking it completely.
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** This scene is all of five seconds long, and the entire sequence has to sync up with the ending song - there just isn't enough time to go into this level of depth. Not everything has to be spelled out on screen.
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* There’s another thing that has always bothered me, however, and that is why it was even necessary for Ernesto to kill Héctor at all. Mexico has hundreds, thousands of songwriters, any of whom would dream to be paired up with a man as charismatic and vocally talented as Ernesto De La Cruz. Why kill Héctor, and not just buy the rights to perform his songs? And when those run out, he could hire another songwriter and probably be just as successful as he was before. Then Héctor would have enough money to support his family, as he would continue earning royalties from the songs, and Ernesto would get the fame he always wanted without having blood on his hands. All of this could have been resolved rather easily if both Ernesto and Héctor had stopped to think it through.

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* There’s another thing that has always bothered me, however, and that is why it Why was it even necessary for Ernesto to kill Héctor at all. all? Mexico has hundreds, thousands of songwriters, any of whom would dream to be paired up with a man as charismatic and vocally talented as Ernesto De La Cruz. Why kill Héctor, and not just buy the rights to perform his songs? And when those run out, he could hire another songwriter and probably be just as successful as he was before. Then Héctor would have enough money to support his family, as he would continue earning royalties from the songs, and Ernesto would get the fame he always wanted without having blood on his hands. All of this could have been resolved rather easily if both Ernesto and Héctor had stopped to think it through.
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** Well... Miguel would've died. More specifically, he would've been trapped in the Land of the Dead for good, meaning Coco would've forgotten her last memories of Héctor without anyone there to rekindle them. And Miguel may or may not be able to cross the marigold bridge from then on, depending on whether his family chooses to include him on their ofrenda or not. The only thing that wouldn't change was Ernesto's fate (whatever it was), since his crimes had already been exposed by the time he threw Miguel to his death. Even if the living world never finds out what he did, it just means he's immortalized himself in an afterlife where the majority of its residents will forever hate his guts. ([[IncrediblyLamePun If he had any.]])

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** Well... Miguel would've died. More specifically, he would've been trapped in the Land of the Dead for good, meaning Coco would've forgotten her last memories of Héctor without anyone there to rekindle them. And Miguel may or may not be able to cross the marigold bridge from then on, depending on whether his family chooses to include him on their ofrenda or not. The only thing that wouldn't change was Ernesto's fate (whatever it was), since his crimes had already been exposed by the time he threw Miguel to his death. Even if the living world never finds out what he did, it just means he's immortalized himself in an afterlife where the majority of its residents will forever hate his guts. ([[IncrediblyLamePun ([[{{Pun}} If he had any.]])
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** I think there might be some very slight implication that "Remember Me" might be what sparked the murder. It's possible Héctor would have sold the rest of his catalogue to Ernesto but he very specifically states that "Rembember me wasn't written for the world, it was written for Coco", implying it wasn't intended for public performances at all. If Ernesto fixated enough on wanting to get the rights to Remember Me ''specifically'' and Héctor kept on insisting it was a personal song for his family, enough arguments over that might have made any sensible negotiations fall through. Especially with how angry Héctor is throughout the movie with the popularity of the song.

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** I think there might be some very slight implication that "Remember Me" might be what sparked the murder. It's possible Héctor would have sold the rest of his catalogue to Ernesto but he very specifically states that "Rembember me "Remember Me wasn't written for the world, it was written for Coco", implying it wasn't intended for public performances at all. If Ernesto fixated enough on wanting to get the rights to Remember Me ''specifically'' and Héctor kept on insisting it was a personal song for his family, enough arguments over that might have made any sensible negotiations fall through. Especially with how angry Héctor is throughout the movie with the popularity of the song.
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** I think there might be some very slight implication that "Remember Me" might be what sparked the murder. It's possible Héctor would have sold the rest of his catalogue to Ernesto but he very specifically states that "Rembember me wasn't written for the world, it was written for Coco", implying it wasn't intended for public performances at all. If Ernesto fixated enough on wanting to get the rights to Remember Me ''specifically'' and Héctor kept on insisting it was a personal song for his family, enough arguments over that might have made any sensible negotiations fall through. Especially with how angry Héctor is throughout the movie with the popularity of the song.
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*** ^Miguel suggested this with Chicharrón but Hector explains it doesn't work that way, so that prolly wouldn't have helped either.

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*** ^Miguel ↑Miguel suggested this with Chicharrón but Hector explains it doesn't work that way, so that prolly wouldn't have helped either.either. However, he didn't explain ''why'' it wouldn't work but y'all could guess that Miguel would had to have close enough ties to the latter, while Coco had the closest ties to Hector.

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***^Miguel suggested this with Chicharrón but Hector explains it doesn't work that way, so that prolly wouldn't have helped either.



** In the 1920s, they didn't have the record-keeping to keep track of anyone (especially travelers) and, back then, when people came up missing or dead, you'd shrug, mourn, and keep it moving, after all, if your loved ones disappeared that was just the end of it. On that subject, even if you did report your relatives missing, the police probably wouldn't have been able to do much of an investigation anyway.

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** In the 1920s, they didn't have the record-keeping to keep track of anyone (especially travelers) and, back then, when people came up missing or dead, you'd shrug, mourn, and keep it moving, after all, if your loved ones disappeared that was just the end of it. it, such is existence. On that subject, even if you did report your relatives missing, the police probably wouldn't have been able to do much of an investigation anyway. anyways. However, word likely did get to Imelda but, as noted a few times on this page, the murder could have been played off as somethin' more mundane.



**↑Imelda died when she was in her 70s (being born around 1899), while Coco (b. 1918) would have been in her 50s.



**A li'l bit of both. The book version says she used to secretly dance but stopped when she got hurt and her daughters saw her, so she prolly didn't bring up Hector because she didn't want her daughters feel hurt again, in which case, the painful memory of Hector leaving (and never returning) and music is connected with her seeing her upset. As Imelda puts it, "Music brings us painful memories; it hurt this family...." and, after that incident, with her daughters' reactions to her injuries, Coco really took it to heart.



***↑I think what that previous troper was trying to say is that, given what already see, unless you're a specific figure in Nahua-Spaniard history or have direct descendants (who has possessions or photos of yours), you're prolly not going to be in this version of afterlife. Going into history is a can of fire ants, however.



***Goin' by how the afterlife in ''Coco'' seems to work, Ernesto could be remembered, just not ''positively'', so his afterlife would quickly changed.



***It seems to only happen during Día de Muertos, as the movie would imply.



Playing an instrument requires muscle memory. How are the skeletons able to still play after they no longer have muscles?
* The same way they're able to breathe without lungs. The Land of the Dead doesn't exactly follow the same laws of physics as our world.
* [[LampshadeHanging "Dante doesn't have hair."]] [[HandWave "And I don't have a nose, and yet, here we are."]]
* On the other hand, maybe their "muscle memory" comes from the memories that keep them alive in the Land of the Dead. When Chicharrón is on the verge of being forgotten, he claims that he couldn't play his old guitar, even if he wanted to.

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Playing *Playing an instrument requires muscle memory. How are the skeletons able to still play after they no longer have muscles?
* ** The same way they're able to breathe without lungs. The Land of the Dead doesn't exactly follow the same laws of physics as our world.
* ** [[LampshadeHanging "Dante doesn't have hair."]] [[HandWave "And I don't have a nose, and yet, here we are."]]
* *** On the other hand, maybe their "muscle memory" comes from the memories that keep them alive in the Land of the Dead. When Chicharrón is on the verge of being forgotten, he claims that he couldn't play his old guitar, even if he wanted to.



* Maybe I'm missing something here, but muscle memory despite the name has nothing to do with muscles. It's actually the cerebellum (part of your brain) that handles everything.

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* ** Maybe I'm missing something here, but muscle memory despite the name has nothing to do with muscles. It's actually the cerebellum (part of your brain) that handles everything.



** Imelda is heavily implied to have been older than her brothers when they were alive. They may have only appeared closetr in age or even older because the novelization mentions that she was the first member of the family to pass on after Héctor died.

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** Imelda is heavily implied to have been older than her brothers when they were alive. They may have only appeared closetr closer in age or even older because the novelization mentions that she was the first member of the family to pass on after Héctor died.


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** I just assume that it's something like AllMythsAreTrue -- if you're Mexican, have an ofrenda, and/or celebrate Dia de los Muertos, then the Land of the Dead is your afterlife and your soul works according to all the rules in place there. Whereas if you abide by another culture or tradition, then your afterlife works according to the customs of that culture. With that said, the Day of the Dead isn't strictly a Mexican thing -- the Italians have a holiday with a similar concept and on the same date, with deceased family members coming to visit you in the world of the living.

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** I just assume that it's something like AllMythsAreTrue -- if you're Mexican, have an ofrenda, and/or celebrate Dia de los Muertos, then the Land of the Dead is your afterlife and your soul works according to all the rules in place there. Whereas if you abide by another culture or tradition, then your afterlife works according to the customs of that culture. With that said, the Day of the Dead isn't strictly a Mexican thing -- the Italians have a holiday with a similar concept and on the same date, with deceased family members coming to visit you in the world of the living. They even hold dinners with spots at the table set for the departed as well. Maybe the place settings work like ofrenda photos, in that case.
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**^Your memory is half-correct. Arsenic is tasteless and so was much preferred.


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***A little of all. In ''Coco'''s universe, they're animal spirits but the ones we see relate to the deceased's living counterpart in some way, i.e the spider monkey alebrije is because of Frida owning one, Imelda because of her pet cat, and Dante because of his connection to Miguel,and the other ones we see in the Spirit world are probably just there, whether they belong to someone or not.
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** Or, [since Héctor spent the majority of his time in the place of the nearly forgotten and almost was completely forgotten himself, he keeps these clothes as a reminder of how precious memories are, and perhaps even as a gesture of respect for those he has seen fade to the final death... Who weren't as lucky as he was.

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** Or, [since since Héctor spent the majority of his time in the place of the nearly forgotten and almost was completely forgotten himself, he keeps these clothes as a reminder of how precious memories are, and perhaps even as a gesture of respect for those he has seen fade to the final death... Who weren't as lucky as he was.
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** They could also be close family friends that they put up as well.
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**Miguel’s family yell at him whenever he does even that, or listens to someone else doing it, and they say they do so because of Imelda’s decrees. So Miguel assumed she hated music so much even singing a few lines would be anathema to her, and wasn’t expecting her to ever do so. Hence it caught his attention when she voluntarily did so.
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** Possibly the apparent age of the deceased reflects how the living remember them looking? 'Usually'' that would be the same as their age at death, but not necessarily always. Imelda's descendants might remember her looking younger than her actual age at death, because the ones too young to have met her personally have mostly seen photos of her as an entrepreneur in her prime. It's the memories of the living that keep the dead embodied at all, so the nature of those memories might affect their skeleton-bodies' appearance.

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** Possibly the apparent age of the deceased reflects how the living remember them looking? 'Usually'' ''Usually'' that would be the same as their age at death, but not necessarily always. Imelda's descendants might remember her looking younger than her actual age at death, because the ones too young to have met her personally have mostly seen photos of her as an entrepreneur in her prime. It's the memories of the living that keep the dead embodied at all, so the nature of those memories might affect their skeleton-bodies' appearance.
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** Possibly the apparent age of the deceased reflects how the living remember them looking? 'Usually'' that would be the same as their age at death, but not necessarily always. Imelda's descendants might remember her looking younger than her actual age at death, because the ones too young to have met her personally have mostly seen photos of her as an entrepreneur in her prime. It's the memories of the living that keep the dead embodied at all, so the nature of those memories might affect their skeleton-bodies' appearance.
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* Miguel tells Imelda that she could never understand his love of music. Imelda responds by singing a few of the words to 'La Lorona', and Miguel turns around and says "I thought you hated music." Why would that be his first reaction? Why would he reconsider whether she dislikes music just because she could sing a few notes?
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** The song still has a somewhat melancholy tone to it even in the... ''reworked'' version spun by Ernesto. Maybe he continued to use it as a farewell song in the days when he was still a travelling musician, playing it for people in each town he visited just before he left for the next one.
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* I know it's meant to be a subtle foreshadowing that the song wasn't actually written by him, but how come Ernesto never thought to change the lyric when he decided to steal and remake "Remember Me"? Especially since I'm sure there were a lot of observant fans in-universe who found it weird that this lyric would be included in such an upbeat and lively song. You'd think a musician like Ernesto [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint would notice the obvious contradiction]] and change it to something happier-sounding, unless he was just ''that'' [[BrilliantButLazy lazy]].
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* Coco had that book containing all of the letters Héctor had written to her sitting in a drawer in her bedroom, presumably since before her dementia set in since she still knew exactly where it was when she recovered. What are the odds no one came across it before then, and saw the letters and the man's face that was obviously torn out of the ofrenda photo? She must've had everyone doing everything for her for quite some time; it seems doubtful that her things could've remained ''that'' undisturbed. For that matter, why didn't she ever pass the book onto anyone else when it contained the last memories of her father?
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* How exactly was the family able to go without hearing music for this long though? Doesn't the Mexican education system have a required musical education class in order to graduate. Or movie and television have music in the background. Then of course the people that married into the family have heard music themselves growing up.
** Unless of course they banned movies and TV as well.
** Is is something that's enforced only in the house and not in places like school?




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* How exactly was the family able to go without hearing music for this long? Doesn't the Mexican education system have a required musical education class in order to graduate. Or movie and television have music in the background. Then of course the people that married into the family have heard music themselves growing up.
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* How exactly was the family able to go without hearing music for this long? Doesn't the Mexican education system have a required musical education class in order to graduate. Or movie and television have music in the background. Then of course the people that married into the family have heard music themselves growing up.
** Unless of course they banned movies and TV as well.
** Is is something that's enforced only in the house and not in places like school
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** This is also the the time when Héctor '''really needs to cross''', since he feels that Coco is dying and he thinks it will be his last opportunity to see her. In previous years he might have made a desultory effort but let it go once he couldn't pull it off since "I can try again next year". Now he doesn't have that luxury so every roadblock is more heartbreaking than it might have been in the past.

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** This is also the the time when Héctor '''really needs to cross''', since he feels that Coco is dying and he thinks it will be his last opportunity to see her. In previous years he might have made a desultory effort but let it go once he couldn't pull it off since "I can try again next year". Now he doesn't have that luxury so every roadblock is more heartbreaking than it might have been in the past.

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