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** An in-depth discussion about this can by found on MyAnimeList right [[http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=194452 here]]


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** I'm wondering about that as well, Nagisa did invite Tomoya's father for the play, yet she said in After Story (or at least in the dub) that she'd like to meet his father. I can't remember when she said that, but she did also say that Tomoya should speak with his father (depending on when Nagisa asked that, it could have been a bad translation).
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* How come we never see Nagisa and Tomoya doing the deed. I know it's it's at the G rating, [[BleachedUnderpants but this is Key we are talking about]], the other Seasonverse games have H-scenes, so why not Clannad? They even had both a clean and unclean version of both {{Air}} and {{Kanon}}. I know this is a stupid question and the obvious anwsers are either "[[GettingCrapPastTheRadar They can't get away with sex]]" and "[[{{Rule34}} Let the fans draw it then]]", but it must be said.

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* How come we never see Nagisa and Tomoya doing the deed. I know it's it's at the G rating, [[BleachedUnderpants but this is Key we are talking about]], the other Seasonverse games have H-scenes, so why not Clannad? They even had both a clean and unclean version of both {{Air}} VisualNovel/{{Air}} and {{Kanon}}.VisualNovel/{{Kanon}}. I know this is a stupid question and the obvious anwsers are either "[[GettingCrapPastTheRadar They can't get away with sex]]" and "[[{{Rule34}} Let the fans draw it then]]", but it must be said.



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** Wedding? ...are you sure you're not talking about the Theatre Club's performance? Also, I think that might have been a vague translation: I recall her saying that she thought Okazaki should meet with his father, but nothing that I can recall implies that ''she'' particularly wanted to speak with him (It's been a while since I've seen After Story, though, so I might be remembering a different moment)
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* When Tomoya's father shows up at the wedding in Clannad, Nagisa apologizes to Tomoya for inviting him without permission; in an early episode of Clannad After Story, she mentions that she'd like to meet Tomoya's father, as they've never met before. Um, what?
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*** "Of course it's a dream, Harry; but why on Earth would that mean that it's not real?" The final hill scene in the Grand Finale struck me as Tomoya retrieving Nagasi's soul from the afterlife, on his way back to the Real World in order to restore her to life. In fact, the whole Imaginary World section feels a bit like Orpheus in the Underworld.
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** I don't know if this is the case in the Japanese version, but in the English Dub, it's specifically stated that he was arrested for "dealing in something illegal". So yeah. If I had to guess, probably selling drugs or something else along those lines.
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*** After the final Hill Scene, we cut to Nagisa miraculously surviving childbirth. She's giving birth in the same circumstances, in the same location with the same people around; it seems that nothing has changed except her survival. In the final Hill Scene, both Nagisa and Tomoya (arguably) demonstrate awareness of the events of timeline 1.0; If the final Hill Scene had really happened, we would expect to see some changes in this new timeline. For instance, knowing in advance that Nagisa would die in childbirth, you think they'd avoid getting her pregnant, or at least they would check her into the hospital before the big snowstorm hits. After Nagisa gives birth, we see a montage of Nagisa being alive and helping to raise Ushio, showing us the changes brought about by the miracle. But we don't see any montage of Nagisa and Tomoya's life being different in any way prior to the birth of Ushio. So it's reasonable to the conclude that the final Hill Scene didn't "really" happen; it was something in the middle of the miracle-process, like Tomoya's and Nagisa's souls having a conversation or something. The only "real" change was Nagisa's survival after childbirth.
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*** This may have something to do with the fact that [[spoiler:Tomoya is the robot in the Illusionary World. This gives him a connection to the supernatural which may (somehow) foster a link between him and the cat.]]

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* How come we never see Nagisa and Tomoya [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean doing the deed]]. I know it's it's at the G rating, [[BleachedUnderpants but this is Key we are talking about]], the other Seasonverse games have H-scenes, so why not Clannad? They even had both a clean and unclean version of both {{Air}} and {{Kanon}}. I know this is a stupid question and the obvious anwsers are either "[[GettingCrapPastTheRadar They can't get away with sex]]" and "[[{{Rule34}} Let the fans draw it then]]", but it must be said.

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* How come we never see Nagisa and Tomoya [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean doing the deed]].deed. I know it's it's at the G rating, [[BleachedUnderpants but this is Key we are talking about]], the other Seasonverse games have H-scenes, so why not Clannad? They even had both a clean and unclean version of both {{Air}} and {{Kanon}}. I know this is a stupid question and the obvious anwsers are either "[[GettingCrapPastTheRadar They can't get away with sex]]" and "[[{{Rule34}} Let the fans draw it then]]", but it must be said.
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*** One early ''After Story'' episode had Tomoya listening to [[NameThatTune Dango Daikazoku]] on an mp3 player.

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*** One early ''After Story'' episode had Tomoya listening to [[NameThatTune Dango Daikazoku]] Daikazoku on an mp3 player.
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** Just read this part in the VN, and Yoshino specifically says that his job doesn't even check for a high school education. [[FlatWhat What.]] I'm guessing the writers simply DidNotDoTheResearch.

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** Just read this part in the VN, and Yoshino specifically says that his job doesn't even check for a high school education. [[FlatWhat What.]] I'm guessing the writers simply DidNotDoTheResearch.
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*** That's even sillier. A child needs more than mere money to survive, even if that child is as smart as Kotomi. Someone had to take care of her. If it wasn't that guy, then who did?
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** The first ''season'' was split between the Theater club and Fuko's sister's wedding. The main point of both was to get the people closer and essentially establish Tomoya's and Nagisa's [[Nakama closest friends]], and Nagisa always knew it would be temporary. Also, this is Clannad, which prides itself on being a ShaggyDogStory [[CrapsackWorld in its]] [[TearJerker happiest endings]].

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** The first ''season'' was split between the Theater club and Fuko's sister's wedding. The main point of both was to get the people closer and essentially establish Tomoya's and Nagisa's [[Nakama [[{{Nakama}} closest friends]], and Nagisa always knew it would be temporary. Also, this is Clannad, which prides itself on being a ShaggyDogStory [[CrapsackWorld in its]] [[TearJerker happiest endings]].
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** I think the main point was that blonde wasn't his natural hair color. The people with blue or purple hair are naturally colored that way.
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** Sunohara actually has blond hair. The rest have variant shades of black hair, but as in ''{{YouGottaHaveBlueHair}}'' hair colors can be used for personality or just to set them apart. Usually wild hair colors are just shorthand to tell characters apart.

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**** Yoshino is a loyal employee and probably was able to strike a deal with his boss that Tomoya follows him (as an apprentice) and learns what he needs to learn. Alternatively, they might have a program for that company to both teach electricians the basics of what they need to know and provide apprenticeships. And if those don't make sense, MST3KMantra solves it.



**** Ah, ok then. Only real answer is bad pacing.

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*** Nagisa had been consistently strong compared to earlier by this point. By the time they realized something was truly wrong and that they NEEDED the hospital, they got snowed in. I doubt that they would know how to do a C-section.



** The first ''season'' was split between the Theater club and Fuko's sister's wedding. The main point of both was to get the people closer and essentially establish Tomoya's and Nagisa's [[Nakama closest friends]], and Nagisa always knew it would be temporary. Also, this is Clannad, which prides itself on being a ShaggyDogStory [[CrapsackWorld in its]] [[TearJerker happiest endings]].



**** Well, that sounds pretty right. Nothing more to add for me.

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** Not everyone can afford a cellphone. Not everyone can afford service. Not everyone can afford a computer. Not everyone can afford interent. Also they are in a remote town, which may not have great phone service anyway. Sure, 2008 might make it harder to accept but 2003 it would be reasonable for few people to have cellphones. And in anime and manga, the technology matches the source material.


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** It has been a while, but I believe that episode 16 probably had not a literal shift, but a mental reflection. He then snaps back to reality and that is where episode 17 picks up. In fact Chapter 22 is really the only literal "shift" I remember, and he decides to stay with her. Additionally, the only scene I can recall of him regretting his life with Nagisa and being silent on the hill was the end of Chapter 21, which picks right up with Episode 22.


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** It seemed either he started using/dealing illegal drugs or, while drunk, got into a severe fight.


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** It seems like the shock of the events isolated her from the world. Tomoya most likely did knock on her door a couple times, but she probably didn't let him in. She likewise didn't seem to have that much more friends. So a person doesn't appear for a few days? She's sick. When she came back, she would be more-isolated and probably not have talked to those who were her friends. As to how the legal guardian raised her, probably slipped money under the door or something.


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** She is slightly out of touch with reality. Or, to be technical, she is remarkably in tune with the town at the detriment of her health. She probably ''dreams'' of the Illusionary World through the power of the Light Orbs and her natural connection.
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** Said "creepy guy" is actually her legal guardian. Though one does wonder who raised her, considering she was terrified of him and didn't realize he wasn't a bad guy until she was 17.
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* Does anyone else think they [[MissedMomentOfAwesome missed a golden plot opportunity?]] Instead of having Nagisa magically/miraculously survive in Tomoya's second chance, they should have had all the people Tomoya and Nagisa helped over the years come together to help her survive.

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* Does anyone else think they [[MissedMomentOfAwesome [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot missed a golden plot opportunity?]] Instead of having Nagisa magically/miraculously survive in Tomoya's second chance, they should have had all the people Tomoya and Nagisa helped over the years come together to help her survive.
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* How did Nagisa know the illusionary world? She used the story in her play but unless she actually read that in a book(highly unlikely) she shouldn't know anything about the illusionary world at that time.
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** A few people do refer to them as "Kyou" and "Fuuko"; it's written that way in the translated visual novel as well.
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** In the visual novel when you get to After Story you see that Yoshino Yuusuke has a cell phone.

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** This is what I have always thought about that scene, as well as the hill scene in the Grand Finale (or, at least in the case of the finale, they could be sort of ethereal meetings between Nagisa and Tomoya's souls. Or something). I've read some analyses of the show, but it still doesn't make sense that they could have actually happened because if they had, all the previous events would have completely changed. It's not like these scenes lose any of their [[TearJerker impact]] just because they didn't physically occur.



** The way I see it, Tomoya's father probably deeply regrets what happened in that fight, and wants to patch things up with Tomoya. But he doesn't know how to approach him anymore, and everytime he tries, Tomoya refuses to forgive him and brushes him off. So he's lost hope of ever reconciling, though he'll make a token effort every now and again (such as with the dango snacks). But of course, his giving up hope leads to the whole "treating your son like a stranger" thing mentioned above, and Tomoya in turn thinks his father is deliberately avoiding him. It's a vicious cycle.

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** The way I see it, Tomoya's father probably deeply regrets what happened in that fight, and wants to patch things up with Tomoya. But he doesn't know how to approach him anymore, and everytime every time he tries, Tomoya refuses to forgive him and brushes him off. So he's lost hope of ever reconciling, though he'll make a token effort every now and again (such as with the dango snacks). But of course, his giving up hope leads to the whole "treating your son like a stranger" thing mentioned above, and Tomoya in turn thinks his father is deliberately avoiding him. It's a vicious cycle.
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*** Hmm, that must make me think that the anime at least takes place in 2008, or so, when it was made by KyoAni. Nagisa is about 18-19, and she was five when Akio prayed for her, making them set up a bakery so they could look after her, so the tapes would stop around 1994. Though the game still takes place in 2003, at least the school life part, because of Sunohara's calendar.
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** Well, they might lose their memory of where they put them. Or the letters might disappear.
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** In the episode in which Nagisa searches for material about her parents' theatrical plays, the line-up of available videos goes to up 1994. So it has be at least that year.
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* Why does nobody come for Kotomi the day her parents die? You'd expect family, child care or the police to look after her, but the only person to come by her house is that creepy guy with the mustache, scaring the poor little girl silly.
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* Once Tomoya and Nagisa become afraid they might forget about Fuuko just like everyone else, why don't they write letters to themselves, telling about a girl they met a girl named Fuuko, who is Ibuki-sensei's little sister? They could have written down that they'd have to visit he from time to time in the hospital as well. Having ''two'' people write down the same thing would be evidence for the authenticity of the story.

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* Once Tomoya and Nagisa become afraid they might forget about Fuuko just like everyone else, why don't they write letters to themselves, telling about a girl they met a girl named Fuuko, who is Ibuki-sensei's little sister? They could have written down that they'd have to visit he from time to time in the hospital as well. They could even have kept a log independently. Having ''two'' people write down the same thing would be evidence for the authenticity of the story.
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* Once Tomoya and Nagisa become afraid they might forget about Fuuko just like everyone else, why don't they write letters to themselves, telling about a girl they met a girl named Fuuko, who is Ibuki-sensei's little sister? They could have written down that they'd have to visit he from time to time in the hospital as well.

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* Once Tomoya and Nagisa become afraid they might forget about Fuuko just like everyone else, why don't they write letters to themselves, telling about a girl they met a girl named Fuuko, who is Ibuki-sensei's little sister? They could have written down that they'd have to visit he from time to time in the hospital as well. Having ''two'' people write down the same thing would be evidence for the authenticity of the story.
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* Once Tomoya and Nagisa become afraid they might forget about Fuuko just like everyone else, why don't they write letters to themselves, telling about a girl they met a girl named Fuuko, who is Ibuki-sensei's little sister? They could have written down that they'd have to visit he from time to time in the hospital as well.
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** The visual novel takes place in the "present day", AKA the year the game was made, which is 2003. I am currently unavailable to provide the proof, but there is a calendar in Sunohara's room with the year "2003" on the top. Also you can just match up days/months to see what year it is. The only realistic previous years to have the 14th of April on a Monday is 1997 or 1986.

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