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* Just re-watched Chuck vs the Suburbs and I've got a question: When Chuck has to seduce the housewife, why doesn't he tranq her after getting into her house? I mean she prevents him from snooping around the house if she's awake and he's uncomfortable with cheating on Sarah. Yet he lets her lead him to her bed and even handcuff him. All this could have been avoided if he drugged her. You'd think Casey would at least suggest this possibility.
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* Just re-watched Chuck vs the Suburbs and I've got a question: When Chuck has to seduce the housewife, why doesn't he tranq her after getting into her house? I mean she prevents him from snooping around the house if she's awake and he's uncomfortable with cheating on Sarah. Yet he lets her lead him to her bed and even handcuff him. All this could have been avoided if he drugged her. You'd think Casey would at least suggest this possibility.possibility.
* So it's been mentioned that Ellie is 3 years older than Chuck. It has also been established that Chuck started at Stanford in '99, which would mean that Ellie started her pre-med undergrad in '96. This means she graduated med school in 2004, but by the time the series starts in 2007, she's a ''board certified neurosurgeon''? Doesn't neurosurgery residency training last upto 8 years?
* So it's been mentioned that Ellie is 3 years older than Chuck. It has also been established that Chuck started at Stanford in '99, which would mean that Ellie started her pre-med undergrad in '96. This means she graduated med school in 2004, but by the time the series starts in 2007, she's a ''board certified neurosurgeon''? Doesn't neurosurgery residency training last upto 8 years?
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* Just watched Chuck vs the Suburbs and I've got a question: When Chuck has to seduce the housewife, why doesn't he tranq her after getting into her house? I mean she prevents him from snooping around the house if she's awake and he's uncomfortable with cheating on Sarah. Yet he lets her lead him to her bed and handcuff him. You'd think Casey would at least suggest this possibility.
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* Just watched re-watched Chuck vs the Suburbs and I've got a question: When Chuck has to seduce the housewife, why doesn't he tranq her after getting into her house? I mean she prevents him from snooping around the house if she's awake and he's uncomfortable with cheating on Sarah. Yet he lets her lead him to her bed and even handcuff him.him. All this could have been avoided if he drugged her. You'd think Casey would at least suggest this possibility.
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** Mary is pretending that she is loyal to [[spoiler: Volkoff]] and have to keep the act. Even when alone by herself. Given the nature of the show's use of 'bugs', it's safe to say that she assumes that she is constantly being watched 24/7.
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** Mary is pretending that she is loyal to [[spoiler: Volkoff]] and have to keep the act. Even when alone by herself. Given the nature of the show's use of 'bugs', it's safe to say that she assumes that she is constantly being watched 24/7.24/7.
* Just watched Chuck vs the Suburbs and I've got a question: When Chuck has to seduce the housewife, why doesn't he tranq her after getting into her house? I mean she prevents him from snooping around the house if she's awake and he's uncomfortable with cheating on Sarah. Yet he lets her lead him to her bed and handcuff him. You'd think Casey would at least suggest this possibility.
* Just watched Chuck vs the Suburbs and I've got a question: When Chuck has to seduce the housewife, why doesn't he tranq her after getting into her house? I mean she prevents him from snooping around the house if she's awake and he's uncomfortable with cheating on Sarah. Yet he lets her lead him to her bed and handcuff him. You'd think Casey would at least suggest this possibility.
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** There's a good possibility of this, as Sarah actually said as much to Shaw that she struggles to keep it clear where the line between herself and her cover is drawn.
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** Sarah is an UnreliableNarrator towards Chuck throughout the show. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation It could also be a possibility that because she keeps finding ways to hide her past, even]] ''[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation she]]'' [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation is starting to mix her own backstory]].
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* In Chuck vs the First Fight, Mary gave Chuck the name of her [[spoiler: MI6 contact, Gregory Tuttle, later revealed to be Volkoff]]. My question is why would she do that when she knows who the guy really is?
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* In Chuck vs the First Fight, Mary gave Chuck the name of her [[spoiler: MI6 contact, Gregory Tuttle, later revealed to be Volkoff]]. My question is why would she do that when she knows who the guy really is?is?
** Mary is pretending that she is loyal to [[spoiler: Volkoff]] and have to keep the act. Even when alone by herself. Given the nature of the show's use of 'bugs', it's safe to say that she assumes that she is constantly being watched 24/7.
** Mary is pretending that she is loyal to [[spoiler: Volkoff]] and have to keep the act. Even when alone by herself. Given the nature of the show's use of 'bugs', it's safe to say that she assumes that she is constantly being watched 24/7.
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** Also, we tend to be a little (or even a lot) more forgiving towards the dead than the living, and in "vs. The Alma Mater" he still thinks Bryce is dead. Plus, it's a very complicated situation. It is possible for Chuck to be understanding of why Bryce did what he did, to keep him off the CIA's radar, but to still be angry with/bitter about ''how'' Bryce did what he did, academic ruination.
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* When Awesome got injected with poison or something, was that just meant to get Ellie and Awesome OutOfAfrica or was it meant to kill him?
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* When Awesome got injected with poison or something, was that just meant to get Ellie and Awesome OutOfAfrica Film/OutOfAfrica or was it meant to kill him?
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** He had to sound resentful of Bryce in front of Ellie, Awesome, and Morgan, who only know of Bryce as the guy who framed Chuck to get him kicked out, while telling Casey (in a manner that is not exactly code) that Bryce is ''not'' dead. Plus, he's jealous about Bryce and Sarah kissing.
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** Because all they told her was that Chuck was working for the CIA. They didn't tell her all of the details.
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** Because all they told her was that Chuck was working for the CIA. They didn't tell her all of the details.details.
*In Chuck vs the First Fight, Mary gave Chuck the name of her [[spoiler: MI6 contact, Gregory Tuttle, later revealed to be Volkoff]]. My question is why would she do that when she knows who the guy really is?
*In Chuck vs the First Fight, Mary gave Chuck the name of her [[spoiler: MI6 contact, Gregory Tuttle, later revealed to be Volkoff]]. My question is why would she do that when she knows who the guy really is?
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* Sarah's backstory seems really confusing to me. There's a lot to fit in, and if you accept some things as true, it makes it hard or impossible to fit in other things into the timeline.
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* Chuck's relationship with Bryce kind of baffles me. I understand that Chuck's emotions were highly conflicted - Bryce ''did'' get him kicked out of Stanford, after all. He was very reasonably bitter and hurt at the beginning of the show. But Chuck seemed to have forgiven Bryce by the end of Chuck vs. The Alma Mater, when he found out that Bryce had been trying to protect him. His feelings toward Bryce seemed a lot more about Stanford than about Bryce being rogue CIA. So I really don't understand what was going on between them in Chuck vs. The Nemesis. The relationship seemed way more antagonistic. "Thankful that Bryce Larkin is dead"? This guy was his best friend, one that had tried to ''protect'' him. I guess part of the tension was supposed to be Chuck being jealous about Sarah, but it seemed really forced, and it kind of made Chuck come across as a bit of a jerk.
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*** It turns out that not only is it better to have a human intersect, the entire POINT of the intersect is for it to be inserted into a person, though someone who has a better grip on his emotions and preferably a few martial arts styles in his belt.
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* When Ellie finds the Intersect project designs on her father's old laptop, she's amazed, as if it's entirely new to her. However, at this point, she knows about Chuck's involvement with the CIA - Devon, Morgan, and Chuck himself all contributed to filling her in. So how is it possible that she didn't know about the Intersect before this point?
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* When Ellie finds the Intersect project designs on her father's old laptop, she's amazed, as if it's entirely new to her. However, at this point, she knows about Chuck's involvement with the CIA - Devon, Morgan, and Chuck himself all contributed to filling her in. So how is it possible that she didn't know about the Intersect before this point?point?
** Because all they told her was that Chuck was working for the CIA. They didn't tell her all of the details.
** Because all they told her was that Chuck was working for the CIA. They didn't tell her all of the details.
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* In Chuck vs The Broken Heart, Forester shows up to the Buy More as a stripper, takes Awesome to the back, kisses him once, then tranqs him. But later on, Lester has incriminating photos of Awesome and Forester that he accidentally shows to Ellie. Are we to believe that they propped Awesome up Weekend at Bernie's style and let Lester take a bunch of pictures rather than take the ID card and leave? I almost believe that they might be "just selling the cover", but there would be questions if they had to move him to the next position since he was unconscious.
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* In Chuck vs The Broken Heart, Forester shows up to the Buy More as a stripper, takes Awesome to the back, kisses him once, then tranqs him. But later on, Lester has incriminating photos of Awesome and Forester that he accidentally shows to Ellie. Are we to believe that they propped Awesome up Weekend at Bernie's style and let Lester take a bunch of pictures rather than take the ID card and leave? I almost believe that they might be "just selling the cover", but there would be questions if they had to move him to the next position since he was unconscious.unconscious.
* When Ellie finds the Intersect project designs on her father's old laptop, she's amazed, as if it's entirely new to her. However, at this point, she knows about Chuck's involvement with the CIA - Devon, Morgan, and Chuck himself all contributed to filling her in. So how is it possible that she didn't know about the Intersect before this point?
* When Ellie finds the Intersect project designs on her father's old laptop, she's amazed, as if it's entirely new to her. However, at this point, she knows about Chuck's involvement with the CIA - Devon, Morgan, and Chuck himself all contributed to filling her in. So how is it possible that she didn't know about the Intersect before this point?
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* In Chuck vs The Broken Heart, Forester shows up to the Buy More as a stripper, takes Awesome to the back, kisses him once, then tranqs him. But later on, Lester has incriminating photos of Awesome and Forester that he accidentally shows to Ellie. Are we to believe that they propped Awesome up Weekend at Bernie's style and let Lester take a bunch of pictures rather than take the ID card and leave? I almost believe that they might be "just selling the cover", but there would be questions if they had to move him to the next position since he was unconscious.
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* What exactly ''were'' the plans of Fulcrum and the Ring? Yes, both organizations were attempting to rebuild the Intersect, but why? It's implied in "Chuck Versus the Suburbs" that Fulcrum (or at least ''some'' of its members) may have just been WellIntentionedExtremists who believed the government wasn't going far enough to protect American interests, but what about the Ring? It's established in "Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte" that the Ring ''clearly'' has global interests (unlike Fulcrum, whose goals appeared to be strictly domestic) and gaining the Intersect and taking control of the CIA are merely means to an end.
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* What exactly ''were'' the plans of Fulcrum and the Ring? Yes, both organizations were attempting to rebuild the Intersect, but why? It's implied in "Chuck Versus the Suburbs" that Fulcrum (or at least ''some'' of its members) may have just been WellIntentionedExtremists [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] who believed the government wasn't going far enough to protect American interests, but what about the Ring? It's established in "Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte" that the Ring ''clearly'' has global interests (unlike Fulcrum, whose goals appeared to be strictly domestic) and gaining the Intersect and taking control of the CIA are merely means to an end.
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* About Sarah's cover in Season 2 : Does anyone else work at Orange Orange? What happens when they need to go down to the Castle? Is the fro-yo store suspiciously closed on hot summer days?
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*** So much this ^^ ^^ If Sarah has such pressing concerns on what becoming a spy would do to Chuck (and subsequent episodes show that these fears are justified)-- Why for the love of all that is lovable didn't she choose to elaborate to Chuck in those conversations we caught glimpses of in Chuck vs. The Pink Slip???? It's Sarah's second time deciding to go AWOL for Chuck, but she doesn't feel like sharing any horror stories about what becoming a spy does to a person. She just sort of assumes that Chuck will trust her that spy life sucks -- at a time when Chuck is most inspired to become one. Also Sarah's brilliant "run away with me" plan makes no provision for Chuck connecting with Elle and Awesome.
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**It's very ambiguous, but my interpretation is that Quinn is the threat that Decker was referring to. If I recall correctly, he said something about a bigger threat, one connected to Chuck's whole career. That's what Quinn is supposed to be. Granted, they didn't get a chance to really flesh out Quinn's character, but his motives certainly fit. He was supposed to get the Intersect that Chuck got way back in Season 1, and he's sort of been involved in Chuck's life ever since. That's why he's sort of the ultimate threat. But, again, there wasn't a lot of time with Quinn, so this is possibly speculation.
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*** Character motivations for this get fleshed out more later in the season as Sarah worries more and more about Chuck becoming a real spy and, moreover, potentially actually killing people. It's still really awkward at the beginning of the season, though, even knowing this.
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** "Chuck Versus the Breakup" shows that the Intersect can be field-upgraded. Remember the glasses Bryce left for Chuck? Presumably after this point, Chuck regularly receives some sort of intel update. Once the capability is established, you don't really need to bring it up again.
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** According to what little we have, the CIA had reason to believe she was turned by the Ring so Sarah was sent to kill her. Unfortunately, the source on that (the Director) wasn't exactly reliable. Maybe it's true. Or maybe the Ring knew Eve Shaw was a mole and orchestrated her death by framing her. Or maybe Graham ''himself'' was part of the Ring and used his position to make her Sarah's Red Test target (Beckman herself said Graham took the truth to his grave).
* What exactly ''were'' the plans of Fulcrum and the Ring? Yes, both organizations were attempting to rebuild the Intersect, but why? It's implied in "Chuck Versus the Suburbs" that Fulcrum (or at least ''some'' of its members) may have just been WellIntentionedExtremists who believed the government wasn't going far enough to protect American interests, but what about the Ring? It's established in "Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte" that the Ring ''clearly'' has global interests (unlike Fulcrum, whose goals appeared to be strictly domestic) and gaining the Intersect and taking control of the CIA are merely means to an end.
* What exactly ''were'' the plans of Fulcrum and the Ring? Yes, both organizations were attempting to rebuild the Intersect, but why? It's implied in "Chuck Versus the Suburbs" that Fulcrum (or at least ''some'' of its members) may have just been WellIntentionedExtremists who believed the government wasn't going far enough to protect American interests, but what about the Ring? It's established in "Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte" that the Ring ''clearly'' has global interests (unlike Fulcrum, whose goals appeared to be strictly domestic) and gaining the Intersect and taking control of the CIA are merely means to an end.
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* Is there ever an explanation for WHY Shaw's wife was the target for Sarah's red test?
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** Because the CIA already knew that name. If somebody had access (which Chuck did), it really wouldn't be that hard to look it up.
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*** Missile command is NOT a complex program. Even if he had to go through line by line it wouldn't have taken more than a couple hours. If he had time to find and retrieve a specific Missile Command unit, he had enough time to go through the code. Plus, come on, it's not like he was operating in a void! 10-20 people working on it at the same time could have combed through the program in minutes.
*** A much better Headscratcher is why the hell somebody hid MISSILE CODES in a freaking arcade game. These things have zero security, the only thing that is required would be somebody to know what they are looking for (codes), and any unit in existence.
*** A much better Headscratcher is why the hell somebody hid MISSILE CODES in a freaking arcade game. These things have zero security, the only thing that is required would be somebody to know what they are looking for (codes), and any unit in existence.
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*** Also very much TruthInTelevision. When he was in Iraq, this troper personally knew a Kurd that had a VERY pronounced English accent, because he went to Oxford.
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Because if it\'s updating all the time, there has to be a mechanism, and I wonder what that might be.
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*Does the Intersect slowly get out of date, or is there some means by which new intelligence is added to it as it is recieved? Are there any instances that either show it lacking intelligence about something because that something is new, or conversely of "knowing" data that it should not know unless it had been updated?
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* So what Decker said at the end of season four wasn't true?
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***It's part of his character development- mainly, him going from hapless nerd to bad-ass spy.
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** Because he could have, but he was trying to help Jeff relive his glory days. There's also the possibility that if Chuck hacked the game, he wouldn't be able to spot the missile codes amongst the other coding; and it would take more time for him to run down every line of coding for the game in attempt to find the codes, especially if he didn't flash on them. Hacking the system relies on Chuck knowing what the codes are to begin with, which he doesn't or the episode has no plot.
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* By the end of the series, the premise of ''Chuck Versus Tom Sawyer'' really becomes problematic. Later seasons establish that Chuck is a pretty bad-ass hacker in his own right. In fact, by Season 5 we've learned that he's a near-legendary figure, the Piranha, in hacker circles. He's able to break into the CIA, random criminal organizations, the BUY MORE, and even hack a complex virus's code within ''seconds''. And yet the only way he can pull the arming codes for a nuclear weapon out of a game of Missile Command is to play the game and get to the kill screen? Video games, even early arcade cabinets, are ultimately just programs and coding, and can be hacked just like any other computer or application. So why didn't Chuck put his Piranha skills to use and just hack a Missle Command cabinet to find the codes?
