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** In RealLife, polyamory has gone through periods where it was acceptable followed by periods where it wasn't. Further, while no one outright condemns the polyamorus in Caprica, its also clear that its unusual. BSG is decades after Caprica, and wars have a tendency to cause people to revert to conservative attitudes. For better or worse, we are less likely to be accepting and forgiving when faced with death.

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** In RealLife, polyamory has gone through periods where it was acceptable followed by periods where it wasn't. Further, while no one outright condemns the polyamorus in Caprica, its it's also clear that its it's unusual. BSG is decades after Caprica, and wars have a tendency to cause people to revert to conservative attitudes. For better or worse, we are less likely to be accepting and forgiving when faced with death.

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* HOW THE FUCK DO COMPUTERS WORK IN THIS DAMN SERIES. I mean seriously. These holoband rooms are server-based systems, right? Well — then they have to be run on servers. If I were the host of New Cap City, I wouldn't be much happy with some damn exploit happening and changing the entire fabric of the game, recasting it in their own image. Server = Off. No more New Cap City. There goes that entire plot line. Well, about something else. How the hell does the holoband server work? Does the damn thing give root access to the hardware it's running on? Because that sure as hell seems like it. Exploding computers in the last episode, locked out backdoors (which, because backdoors are hard coded, cannot actually be closed), whatever. Daniel Greystone must be really damn stupid if he's going to be building software which in of itself allows hackers to blow your rig. I mean seriously. In a modern processor, you'd have to shut down the temperature controllers, bust the fan systems, and overclock to the max to get anything like in Apotheosis. You're telling me that the holoband server allows access to areas of the computer which the damn OS API can't access? No. Fucking. Way. No wonder the Cylons hack Colonial computers in seconds. They're all built stupid.

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* HOW THE FUCK DO COMPUTERS WORK IN THIS DAMN SERIES. I mean seriously. These holoband rooms are server-based systems, right? Well — then they have to be run on servers. If I were the host of New Cap City, I wouldn't be much happy with some damn exploit happening and changing the entire fabric of the game, recasting it in their own image. Server = Off. No more New Cap City. There goes that entire plot line. Well, about something else. How the hell does the holoband server work? Does the damn thing give root access to the hardware it's running on? Because that sure as hell seems like it. Exploding computers in the last episode, locked out backdoors (which, because backdoors are hard coded, cannot actually be closed), whatever. Daniel Greystone must be really damn stupid if he's going to be building software which in of itself allows hackers to blow your rig. I mean seriously. In a modern processor, you'd have to shut down the temperature controllers, bust the fan systems, and overclock to the max to get anything like in Apotheosis."Apotheosis". You're telling me that the holoband server allows access to areas of the computer which the damn OS API can't access? No. Fucking. Way. No wonder the Cylons hack Colonial computers in seconds. They're all built stupid.

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* HOW THE FUCK DO COMPUTERS WORK IN THIS DAMN SERIES. I mean seriously. These holoband rooms are server-based systems, right? Well — then they have to be run on servers. If I were the host of New Cap City, I wouldn't be much happy with some damn exploit happening and changing the entire fabric of the game, recasting it in their own image. Server = Off. No more New Cap City. There goes that entire plot line. Well, about something else. How the hell does the holoband server work? Does the damn thing give root access to the hardware its running on? Because that sure as hell seems like it. Exploding computers in the last episode, locked out backdoors (which, because backdoors are hard coded, cannot actually be closed), whatever. Daniel Greystone must be really damn stupid if he's going to be building software which in of itself allows hackers to blow your rig. I mean seriously. In a modern processor, you'd have to shut down the temperature controllers, bust the fan systems, and overclock to the max to get anything like in Apotheosis. You're telling me that the holoband server allows access to areas of the computer which the damn OS API can't access? No. Fucking. Way. No wonder the Cylons hack Colonial computers in seconds. They're all built stupid.

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* HOW THE FUCK DO COMPUTERS WORK IN THIS DAMN SERIES. I mean seriously. These holoband rooms are server-based systems, right? Well — then they have to be run on servers. If I were the host of New Cap City, I wouldn't be much happy with some damn exploit happening and changing the entire fabric of the game, recasting it in their own image. Server = Off. No more New Cap City. There goes that entire plot line. Well, about something else. How the hell does the holoband server work? Does the damn thing give root access to the hardware its it's running on? Because that sure as hell seems like it. Exploding computers in the last episode, locked out backdoors (which, because backdoors are hard coded, cannot actually be closed), whatever. Daniel Greystone must be really damn stupid if he's going to be building software which in of itself allows hackers to blow your rig. I mean seriously. In a modern processor, you'd have to shut down the temperature controllers, bust the fan systems, and overclock to the max to get anything like in Apotheosis. You're telling me that the holoband server allows access to areas of the computer which the damn OS API can't access? No. Fucking. Way. No wonder the Cylons hack Colonial computers in seconds. They're all built stupid.
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** In RealLife, polyamory has gone through periods where it was acceptable followed by periods where it wasn't. Further, while no one outright condemns the polyamorus in Caprica, its also clear that its unusual. BSG is decades after Caprica, and wars have a tendency to cause people to revert to conservative attitudes. For better or worse, we are less likely to be accepting and forgiving when faced with death.

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* If group marriage was legal and accepted on Caprica, why did we have to be subjected to the Dee/Lee/Kara/Sam LoveDodecahedron in Season 3 of the parent show?

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* If group marriage was legal and accepted on Caprica, why did we have to be subjected to the Dee/Lee/Kara/Sam LoveDodecahedron in Season 3 of the parent show?show? Why didn't the four of them just all get married and spare us the headache?

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* How does V-world evolve into the state in BSG, wherein the humans are very cautious of networking computers (and thus, cyberspace) while the human model Cylons have projection and resurrection, but otherwise seem not to exist, or at least have experiences, when they are not housed in flesh-and-blood bodies? And how does this technology co-exist with the Thirteenth Tribe technology of resurrection and clones which is brought by the Final Five?
** The human distrust of computers comes from the Cylon War, at the time ''Caprica'' was set the humans had never experienced a TurnedAgainstTheirMasters situation and had no reason to worry about the likes of V-World. As for the Cylons, the Final Five made a big deal about making them as human as possible so allowing them to exist without physical bodies is the sort of thing they would try to avoid.
** Do we know for sure that V-world didn't exist in some form in the Colonies still? Galactica didn't have her computers network as a tradition after the First Cylon War and it's a military vessel so there's no reason for it to have access to such a system and the infrastructure for it was destroyed with the Colonies. It may very well exist, just in a fashion we were never able to see used.

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* How does V-world V-World evolve into the state in BSG, wherein the humans are very cautious of networking computers (and thus, cyberspace) while the human model Cylons have projection and resurrection, but otherwise seem not to exist, or at least have experiences, when they are not housed in flesh-and-blood bodies? And how does this technology co-exist with the Thirteenth Tribe technology of resurrection and clones which is brought by the Final Five?
** The human distrust of computers comes from the Cylon War, War; at the time ''Caprica'' was set set, the humans had never experienced a TurnedAgainstTheirMasters situation and had no reason to worry about the likes of V-World. As for the Cylons, the Final Five made a big deal about making them as human as possible so allowing them to exist without physical bodies is the sort of thing they would try to avoid.
** Do we know for sure that V-world V-World didn't exist in some form in the Colonies still? Galactica ''Galactica'' didn't have her computers network networked as a tradition after the First Cylon War and it's a military vessel so there's no reason for it to have access to such a system and the infrastructure for it was destroyed with the Colonies. It may very well exist, just in a fashion we were never able to see used.used.
*** V-World is mentioned in ''Blood & Chrome''; Beka says that her late husband's image is being used for recruitment programs there.

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* First, why does Clarice keep her job as athenian priestess? while being a covert christian, sorry, follower of the one true(cough)god? RDM's clumsy attempts to paint polytheists as being fanatical intolerant bigots like christians? Why not just tender her resignation or some BS excuse?. Then she could plant bombs full-time. Maybe being a fanatic bigot doent pay well, hard to say. Also, for being an athenian, the school she noiminally worked in sure looks an awful lot like a british boarding school. Barely anything about her or her school even hints at classical religion.
** And speaking of "fanatical intolerant bigots" ^
** It puts her in position to recruit disenfranchises teenagers to the cause.

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* First, why does Clarice keep her job as athenian priestess? Athenian priestess while being a covert christian, Christian, sorry, follower of the one true(cough)god? One True (cough) God? RDM's clumsy attempts to paint polytheists as being fanatical intolerant bigots like christians? Christians? Why not just tender her resignation or some BS excuse?. Then she could plant bombs full-time. Maybe being a fanatic bigot doent doesn't pay well, hard to say. Also, for being an athenian, Athenian, the school she noiminally worked nominally works in sure looks an awful lot like a british British boarding school. Barely anything about her or her school even hints at classical religion.
** And speaking of "fanatical intolerant bigots" ^
** It puts her in position to recruit disenfranchises disenfranchised teenagers to the cause.


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**** In fact, it's explicitly a modern, tolerant school ''because'' it's dedicated to Athena.


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** Where does "by the end of the series" come into it? By the end of the series, it's public knowledge that Clarice herself is an STO terrorist. Before that, the only publicly known STO person from the academy is Zoey Graystone, and Agent Duram investigates Clarice through Amanda for exactly that reason.
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* If group marriage was legal and accepted on Caprica, why did we have to be subjected to the Dee/Lee/Kara/Sam LoveDodecahedron in Season 3 of the parent show?
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** Decades of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' has led many people to not only take ExplosiveInstrumentation for granted, but to actually regard it as a ''given''. If a piece of technology is supposedly more advanced than real world tech, then it should apparently have more explosive potential than an artillery shell! As for the servers that V-World (including New Cap City) run on, it would appear that they are not closely supervised by administrators. Even ''Daniel'' was shocked by some of the things he saw in the V-World club! However, since the source code for V-World was written by Graystone programmers, certain rules may apply to ''all'' virtual environments running on the platform. For example, Zoe and Tamara's virtual immortality and reality warping powers could be a function of their avatars having OS-level administrator privileges on all V-World systems. After all, the avatar program was written by Zoe, who was the daughter of the guy who ''invented'', and owned, the intellectual property. Creating an artificial intelligence inside the network in and of itself probably required that she employ a whole range of proprietary programming tricks exploiting her access to the source code. Less-privileged programmers designing virtual environments on the platform were probably constrained by many restrictions that Zoe had the means to bypass.
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* HOW THE FUCK DO COMPUTERS WORK IN THIS DAMN SERIES. I mean seriously. These holoband rooms are server-based systems, right? Well — then they have to be run on servers. If I were the host of New Cap City, I wouldn't be much happy with some damn exploit happening and changing the entire fabric of the game, recasting it in their own image. Server = Off. No more New Cap City. There goes that entire plot line. Well, about something else. How the hell does the holoband server work? Does the damn thing give root access to the hardware its running on? Because that sure as hell seems like it. Exploding computers in the last episode, locked out backdoors (which, because backdoors are hard coded, cannot actually be closed), whatever. Daniel Greystone must be really damn stupid if he's going to be building software which in of itself allows hackers to blow your rig. I mean seriously. In a modern processor, you'd have to shut down the temperature controllers, bust the fan systems, and overclock to the max to get anything like in Apotheosis. You're telling me that the holoband server allows access to areas of the computer which the damn OS API can't access? No. Fucking. Way.

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* HOW THE FUCK DO COMPUTERS WORK IN THIS DAMN SERIES. I mean seriously. These holoband rooms are server-based systems, right? Well — then they have to be run on servers. If I were the host of New Cap City, I wouldn't be much happy with some damn exploit happening and changing the entire fabric of the game, recasting it in their own image. Server = Off. No more New Cap City. There goes that entire plot line. Well, about something else. How the hell does the holoband server work? Does the damn thing give root access to the hardware its running on? Because that sure as hell seems like it. Exploding computers in the last episode, locked out backdoors (which, because backdoors are hard coded, cannot actually be closed), whatever. Daniel Greystone must be really damn stupid if he's going to be building software which in of itself allows hackers to blow your rig. I mean seriously. In a modern processor, you'd have to shut down the temperature controllers, bust the fan systems, and overclock to the max to get anything like in Apotheosis. You're telling me that the holoband server allows access to areas of the computer which the damn OS API can't access? No. Fucking. Way. No wonder the Cylons hack Colonial computers in seconds. They're all built stupid.
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* HOW THE FUCK DO COMPUTERS WORK IN THIS DAMN SERIES. I mean seriously. These holoband rooms are server-based systems, right? Well — then they have to be run on servers. If I were the host of New Cap City, I wouldn't be much happy with some damn exploit happening and changing the entire fabric of the game, recasting it in their own image. Server = Off. No more New Cap City. There goes that entire plot line. Well, about something else. How the hell does the holoband server work? Does the damn thing give root access to the hardware its running on? Because that sure as hell seems like it. Exploding computers in the last episode, locked out backdoors (which, because backdoors are hard coded, cannot actually be closed), whatever. Daniel Greystone must be really damn stupid if he's going to be building software which in of itself allows hackers to blow your rig. I mean seriously. In a modern processor, you'd have to shut down the temperature controllers, bust the fan systems, and overclock to the max to get anything like in Apotheosis. You're telling me that the holoband server allows access to areas of the computer which the damn OS API can't access? No. Fucking. Way.
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** I always got the impression that Clarice genuinely believed she was doing her god's work. If she believed that god wanted her to side with the Cylons then she would, and based on the ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' finale the Cylon god is real and is fond of needlessly overcomplicated plans that involve genocide. We would probably have learned more about the details if the show had been renewed for a second season.

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** I always got the impression that Clarice genuinely believed she was doing her god's work. If she believed that god wanted her to side with the Cylons then she would, and based on the ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' finale the Cylon god is real and is fond of needlessly overcomplicated plans that involve genocide. We would probably have learned more about the details if the show had been renewed for a second season.



** Agreed, ''Caprica'' was always going to have a bit of a hard time getting an audience - as a spin-off, people who didn't watch or didn't like ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' would be wary, but given the massive change in tone and setting there was no guarantee of keeping existing fans.

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** Agreed, ''Caprica'' was always going to have a bit of a hard time getting an audience - as a spin-off, people who didn't watch or didn't like ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' would be wary, but given the massive change in tone and setting there was no guarantee of keeping existing fans.
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* I realize this can border on ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, but as a fan of the show, I have to wonder why so many of my fellow fans are so quick to say that ViewersAreMorons after the show's cancellation. Not only was it a ''very'' different show than BSG, BSG was a re-imagining of a well-known show that was ''actually really good''. I respect the show and the story it presented, but I always watched the episodes knowing the show wasn't going to last.

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* I realize this can border on ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, but as a fan of the show, I have to wonder why so many of my fellow fans are so quick to say that ViewersAreMorons after the show's cancellation. Not only was it a ''very'' different show than BSG, BSG was a re-imagining of a well-known show that was ''actually really good''. I respect the show and the story it presented, but I always watched the episodes knowing the show wasn't going to last.

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** Remember we're talking about the company that created the holoband and user appearance doesn't seem to be unique to the holoband - it must be stored somewhere. The company may have used Graystone's image and then animated it, similar to the puppet that greated Joseph Adama when he first got his band. Difference here is that the advertisement was supposed to be realisticly protrayed, rather than just a bot with pre-programmed speech patterns.

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** Remember we're talking about the company that created the holoband and user appearance doesn't seem to be unique to the holoband - it must be stored somewhere. The company may have used Graystone's image and then animated it, similar to the puppet that greated Joseph Adama when he first got his band. Difference here is that the advertisement was supposed to be realisticly protrayed, realistically portrayed, rather than just a bot with pre-programmed speech patterns.


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** According to Kevin Murphy, she became the basis for Number Eight. Zoe was the basis for Number Six.

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