History Headscratchers / BravelyDefault

* Just curious, but how exactly is Edea's Black And White Insanity seen as a bad thing, when pretty much the ENTIRE Eternian army are uncompromisingly evil?

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* Just curious, but how exactly is Edea's Black And White Insanity seen as a bad thing, when pretty much the ENTIRE Eternian army are uncompromisingly evil?

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* Where are people getting that [=DeRosso=] repeating the words he heard when he became immortal during the final battle is creating a stable time loop? What I got from that was that [=DeRosso=] had finally realized that it was Ouroboros who had offered him eternal life, and he was ironically repeating Ouroboros's words back to him to tell him that in doing so he had created the means to his own defeat. Where at all in the scene does it indicate that a stable time loop would even be possible, or in fact where DeRosso's immortality could have come from if that was the case?

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* Where are people getting that Derosso repeating the words he heard when he became immortal during the final battle is creating a stable time loop? What I got from that was that Derosso had finally realized that it was Ouroboros who had offered him eternal life, and he was ironically repeating Ouroboros's words back to him to tell him that in doing so he had created the means to his own defeat. Where at all in the scene does it indicate that a stable time loop would even be possible, or in fact where Derosso's immortality could have come from if that was the case?
** Because there is nothing to support your theory at all...and time travel already happened with Agnes (The 'Angel') etc.
*** But time travel ''didn't'' happen, it never did. The "Angel" was an Agnes from another world, not a different time. There's nothing to indicate that there's a stable time loop in place at all, except DeRosso making an IronicEcho.
**** I got the idea DeRosso locked Ouroboros' immortality into his past self to keep it out of his reach. He only asked his past self because he knew he'd say yes.
** So... what exactly makes everyone ''think'' that Derosso created a stable time loop?
*** It flat out says it in D's Journal in Derosso's entry if you start a NG+, and he theorises that that was the case during chapter 4 when doing his sidequest.

** Or those were the worlds in which the Cryst-fairy was ''killed by'' the party, forcing Ouroborous to send another one through to the next world.

* I know Anticrystalism is all gung-ho for stamping out the Crystalism and want to kill all the vestals but what are they going to do with the crystals? The crystals are necessary for the world's balance and if they left them corrupted then the world is going to still be bad. They didn't do a good job taking care of the Earth Crystal either. Are they just plan to leave the crystals as they are? The only ones who are known to be able to purify the crystals are the vestials yet they want to destroy them and the religion they are associated with.
** Anticrystalism was created by Eternia as a counter to reduce the power it had. Simply put, Eternia wants to show that they don't need the crystals power, after all, Eternia has Airships that can fly and don't use crystals to do do. They simply want people to move away Crystalism and focus on manpower like in Anchiem.
** Yes I know that but it doesn't fix the problem the fact that the crystal's are needed to keep the world balanced. If they leave the crystals as they are they just going to leave the crystals dark and corrupted which in turn effect the world? Isn't the reason why the sea is unsailable and the wind isn't working properly because the crystals were covered in darkness? Yes they don't want people to rely on the power of the crystal but the crystals are needed to keep the world balanced. Also they are technically relying on a crystal (I think the Earth Crystal?) to help with their White Magic hospital place.
** They were studying the crystals, trying to find a way to cleanse them without the vestals. That's why they were doing the whole world conquest thing--they needed control of all four to get the full picture. They didn't seem to have much luck, though, and Lord [=DeRosso=] mentioned several times that Crystalism should be reduced to the people, the crystals, and the vestals, removing the church itself. The implication of that statement is that the vestals are needed, even though Eternia had some really bad experiences with theirs.
** I don't recall it ''ever'' saying one of the goals of Anticrystalism is to kill all the vestals. There were ''individuals'' that were a part of it that wanted to kill them for their own reasons, but there were others that wanted or preferred them captured alive, one of which was Braev--the leader--himself. Which makes sense considering he formed the movement with [=DeRosso=] and Yulyana, and thus was aware of the big picture all along.

*** It flat out says it in D's Journal in Derosso's entry if you start a NG+.

** Or maybe they're the negative worlds and Airy's sister has been doing the reverse as her good counterpart, trying to reach Ouroboros herself and stop him, locked out of world 0 by Airy, who gets there first, and talking to you, celestial on the positive side.

**** Using one of the AR cards shows Tiz dying after climbing out of the Great Chasm, only to absorb a bright light drifting down. Shortly after, you start controlling him and he's perfectly fine. In other words, Tiz lives... because of you.

** Inferring from the [[{{Fridge/BRAVELYDEFAULT}} Fridge Horror]] of Ouroboros "eating the horizon", perhaps our world is the alternate world in which Ouroboros has succeeded in filling with conflict. (More specifically, we are in a world where the Celestial Revo lost the game.)

[[folder:What's with all this talk about a stable time loop with Derosso?]]

Where are people getting that Derosso repeating the words he heard when he became immortal during the final battle is creating a stable time loop? What I got from that was that Derosso had finally realized that it was Ouroboros who had offered him eternal life, and he was ironically repeating Ouroboros's words back to him to tell him that in doing so he had created the means to his own defeat.

Where at all in the scene does it indicate that a stable time loop would even be possible, or in fact where Derosso's immortality could have come from if that was the case?

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* Edea "reveals" that she's the grand marshall's daughter to the group after activating the water crystal, but Agnés had already ''directly heard'' this news before they even left the starting island. When Edea is pretending that Agnés is her prisoner, the guard she's talking to, when Agnés is there, directly refers to her as "the grand marshall's daughter". So why is this such a shock?