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** There is the exception of his interaction with Grand Fisher and Masaki, etc etc. He saw that. But, I guess it's mostly for plot purposes. But if we want to go crazy theory fans, then it might have something to do with Isshin, who might have been doing more protecting in the background, until his son reached a certain age? Maybe Urahara and co. were busier? Maybe as a child, Ichigo's spiritual pressure wasn't so high as to attract as many hollows as it did later.

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** There is the exception of his interaction with Grand Fisher and Masaki, etc etc. He saw that. But, I guess it's mostly for plot purposes. But if we want to go crazy theory fans, then it might have something to do with Isshin, who might have been doing more protecting in the background, until his son reached a certain age? Maybe Urahara and co. were busier? Maybe as a child, Ichigo's spiritual pressure wasn't so high as to attract as many hollows as it did later. later.
* Chapter 459. Ichigo's powers came back. [[{{SarcasmMode Yay.]] Does this mean Ichigo will have the same level of power as he had when fighting Aizen? Bring in the DeusExMachina.
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** There is the exception of his interaction with Grand Fisher and Masaki, etc etc. He saw that. But, I guess it's mostly for plot purposes. But if we want to go crazy theory fans, then it might have something to do with Isshin, who might have been doing more protecting in the background, until his son reached a certain age? Maybe Urahara and co. were busier? Maybe as a child, Ichigo's spiritual pressure wasn't so high as to attract as many hollows as it did later.
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* Okay, question: If Ichigo has been able to see and hear ghosts (and therefore Hollows and Shinigami) ''all his life'', then how did he go fifteen years without encountering any evidence of Hollows or Shinigami until the first chapter of the manga/first episode of the anime? If Shinigami are always (supposed to be) konso-ing Pluses and Hollows are supposed to keep trying to eat them, then why hasn't he seen any doing just that while he interacts with the Plus Souls?
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** Fullbringers have a PARENT who was attacked by a Hollow before they were born; it doesn't necessarily have to be the mother. Isshin is a Shinigami, so it's only natural to assume that he was attacked by a Hollow before having a child with Masaki. His sisters can probably use Fullbring as well, if they wanted to.
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** Also, despite that portion happen within about 30 pages to us, all those quick attacks were probably happening in mere seconds to all of them and Ichigo was probably so shocked that they were butchering Hiyori that he couldn't react in time to stop them.
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** Ichigo's bankai, when introduced, was one of the most powerful we've ever seen in the series. Being able to speedblitz an opponent who is otherwise your equal in speed? Most other bankais would lose to that simply because the fight would be over before they'd ever get used. The problem is that Ichigo went from "As fast as Byakuya without his bankai, faster than Byakuya can keep up with with it" to "below average captain speed with his bankai active and hollow mask on." Basically, Kubo gave him a huge off-screen nerf, and part of that seems to be that his bankai does literally nothing now except change his outfit.

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*** The most likely solution I've found is that honestly speaking? It did zero damage to Ulquiorra at all. It's a goddamn cero, they rarely tend to do more than slightly char if that on an opponent who is not drastically weakened already, uberpowered or not. See Grimmjaw's Gran Rey among countless other examples. Now the reason the lower body is missing? Not three seconds earlier he completely cut it off in a single swordstroke. What likely happened was the resulting cero and gaping hole beneath him just tore the already cut off bit completely off and knocked it down the gaping hole. The angle is the same and the damage is near perfectly straight, bar a slight bit on the edge, and the positioning is only slightly lower then where the sword stroke hit, which could be attributed to either regen or horrible wound continuity. Wouldn't be the first time either. Certainly explains why his top half is completely untouched despite it being point blank to the head while the bottom half is just plain gone.
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** Now in the Fullbring arc it's been shown that Ichigo is very experienced when compared to more normal people (normal, as in not having at least a hundred years of experience), sure he's growing very fast but he's still giving people of equal or higher power with more experience with Fullbrings just with battle experience.

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** Now in the Fullbring arc it's been shown that Ichigo is very experienced when compared to more normal people (normal, as in not having at least a hundred years of experience), sure he's growing very fast but he's still giving people of equal or higher power with more experience with Fullbrings a tough time just with battle experience.
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** Now in the Fullbring arc it's been shown that Ichigo is very experienced when compared to more normal people (normal, as in not having at least a hundred years of experience), sure he's growing very fast but he's still giving people of equal or higher power with more experience with Fullbrings just with battle experience.


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**** He tried to run away, the blast still hit him but in a different place.
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** I assumed that because he now had a true shinigami form, he was able to use his body like other shinigami use their gigais. He just stayed because he was still able to have a life, and was assigned to Karakura Town by Soul Society as a Shinigami Representative. Now, what really bugs me is that after [[spoiler: he loses his shinigami powers he shouldn't be able to remain in his body/decaying corpse at ''all'', and should have been sent to Soul Society or become a hollow. Not to mention that he should still have reiatsu and see ghosts. I mean, he did before he was a shinigami.]]
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** Remember this is ''Aizen''. He might have wised up later on and used his Shikai and then Ichigo would be [[{{OhCrap}} fucked]]. And then there's the Fridge Brilliance that points out that Ichigo would be just like Aizen. What else would he do? Other option was to lose his powers and start all over.
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* Huh, I thought that the attack from Grand Fisher awoke his Fullbring. {{Ass Pull}}, anyone?

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* ** Huh, I thought that the attack from Grand Fisher awoke his Fullbring. {{Ass Pull}}, anyone?
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* Huh, I thought that the attack from Grand Fisher awoke his Fullbring. {{Ass Pull}}, anyone?
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** For that matter, why is Ichigo a Fullbringer to begin with? We've been told that Fullbringers had their mothers attacked by Hollows while pregnant. Since Ichigo is a Fullbringer, I suppose we're meant to assume Masaki was attacked by a Hollow while pregnant with Ichigo, but wouldn't this have been brought up at least once? "Oh yeah, remember that time Masaki was attacked by an unseen force [while pregnant]?" Also, it just comes right out of nowhere. "Ok, Ichigo, to absorb our power you must first awaken your own Fullbring which has never been mentioned or even hinted at before." "Cool."
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** Also to answer why someone like Aizen would had made that mistake. Remember how he was losing to Isshin? and how in his chrysalids stage he was pounding not only Isshin but Yoruichi AND Urahara, and he just kept on growing on power, he was going up one level every 10 minutes, he didn't really know the extent of his power, so when the mountain blew up he went "oh I guess I'm this powerful now, neat".


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** Well you see that he constantly keeps regenerating, I mean [[spoiler: Gin blew a all his upper side]] and he still recovered, I think that the plan was using the biggest, strongest most destructive attack to be as throughout as possible [[spoiler: and it still didn't actually kill him]] it was like the fight with Majiin Buu fron Dragon Ball Z.
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* Chapter 432. Ichigo now has a Fullbring that basically mimics his Bankai. Later (Chapter 445), his Fullbring changes to mimic the time he had his shikai. Is that all his Fullbring does? Or is there something missing?

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* Chapter 432. Ichigo now has a Fullbring that basically mimics his Bankai. Later (Chapter 445), his Fullbring changes to mimic the time he had his shikai. Is that all his Fullbring does? does, mimic his previous experiences? Or is there something I'm missing?
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* Chapter 432. Ichigo now has a Fullbring that basically mimics his Bankai. Later (Chapter 445), his Fullbring changes to mimic the time he had his shikai. Is that all his Fullbring does? Or is there something missing?

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* So exactly WHY did Ichigo use the Final Getsuga Tensho? By the final fight he's so far above Aizen in power that he could have utterly curb-stomped him any time he wanted. He catches Aizen's blade bare-handed; every swing of his arm destroys mountains; he rips through a chanted Black Coffin without even trying; takes a direct hit from a nuclear explosion and gets only a singed arm; and by the end of it he's so unconcerned that he just lets Aizen grab him and hangs around in his grip for a while before effortlessly breaking out. So having proved beyond all shadow of a doubt that this fight is essentially the same as, say, Kenpachi vs. Hanataro, he chooses to permanently sacrifice his Shinigami powers?

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* So exactly WHY did Ichigo use the Final Getsuga Tensho? By the final fight he's so far above Aizen in power that he could have utterly curb-stomped him any time he wanted. He catches Aizen's blade bare-handed; every swing of his arm destroys mountains; he rips through a chanted Black Coffin without even trying; takes a direct hit from a nuclear explosion and gets only a singed arm; and by the end of it he's so unconcerned that he just lets Aizen grab him and hangs around in his grip for a while before effortlessly breaking out. So having proved beyond all shadow of a doubt that this fight is essentially the same as, say, Kenpachi vs. Hanataro, he chooses to permanently sacrifice his Shinigami powers? powers?
** Ichigo might have wanted to end the fight in one shot because he felt that if he let it continue Aizen might pull out more tricks under his hat. Take note that during that time Aizen was cocky and hadn't used his Shiki or Bankai yet. Also for all Ichigo knew Aizen could evolve even further and make the fight even more bothersome. Thus by ending the fight in one shot was a attack that was sure kill he wouldn't give Aizen the chance to clear his head and pull out something stronger or evolve further.

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* Am I the only one who thought the last chapters with Ichigo were massive Wall Bangers ? Mistaking Ichigo's powers for his own ? Really ? Since when Aizen became that stupid ? You expect me to believe he's stronger than the whole Soul Society ?
** Remember, Ichigo's power, at the moment, ''cannot be sensed''. The only energy Aizen can sense at the moment is is own- and, as such, especially given the inherent biases and habits that accumulate over a lifetime of using the sixth spiritual sense the same way we use hearing, that means its a very easy mistake to make if he acted close enough in time and location. Also, just like his Bankai puts all its points into speed rather than size or strength, Ichigo ''isn't'' stronger in terms of stat totals overall, he's just MinMaxing, taking all points out of every category and putting them into physical, effectively converting all of his MP, INT, and WIS into ATK, DEF, and SPD. Aizen, by contrast, was just trying to be +10 across the board, making him TheMario of the twinked out.
*** Except that's not what happened at all. The Min/Maxing was just Aizen's attempt to explain why he couldn't sense Ichigo's spiritual power anymore. He later realizes that that wasn't the case and the reason he couldn't sense him was because Ichigo was just too far above him.


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* Am I the only one who thought the last chapters with Ichigo were massive Wall Bangers ? Mistaking Ichigo's powers for his own ? Really ? Since when Aizen became that stupid ? You expect me to believe he's stronger than the whole Soul Society ?
** Remember, Ichigo's power, at the moment, ''cannot be sensed''. The only energy Aizen can sense at the moment is is own- and, as such, especially given the inherent biases and habits that accumulate over a lifetime of using the sixth spiritual sense the same way we use hearing, that means its a very easy mistake to make if he acted close enough in time and location. Also, just like his Bankai puts all its points into speed rather than size or strength, Ichigo ''isn't'' stronger in terms of stat totals overall, he's just MinMaxing, taking all points out of every category and putting them into physical, effectively converting all of his MP, INT, and WIS into ATK, DEF, and SPD. Aizen, by contrast, was just trying to be +10 across the board, making him TheMario of the twinked out.
*** Except that's not what happened at all. The Min/Maxing was just Aizen's attempt to explain why he couldn't sense Ichigo's spiritual power anymore. He later realizes that that wasn't the case and the reason he couldn't sense him was because Ichigo was just too far above him.
*So exactly WHY did Ichigo use the Final Getsuga Tensho? By the final fight he's so far above Aizen in power that he could have utterly curb-stomped him any time he wanted. He catches Aizen's blade bare-handed; every swing of his arm destroys mountains; he rips through a chanted Black Coffin without even trying; takes a direct hit from a nuclear explosion and gets only a singed arm; and by the end of it he's so unconcerned that he just lets Aizen grab him and hangs around in his grip for a while before effortlessly breaking out. So having proved beyond all shadow of a doubt that this fight is essentially the same as, say, Kenpachi vs. Hanataro, he chooses to permanently sacrifice his Shinigami powers?
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*** Why? She'd fit right into squad 4. Can't fight, is wimpy until pushed far enough, healing power.

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As for the speed of Ichigo's Bankai I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that, it isn't the fact that its speed dropped, but that Ichigo isn't using its full speed, because his body can't take. During his fight with Byakuya, when he noticed that Byakuya was getting faster, Byakuya corrected him by saying that it's not that he is getting faster, but it's Ichigo who is getting slower. Implied that his Bankai was so fast, that his body was breaking down, because of the strain of using it to move with that isane speed. So it's not that he can't move with that speed, he just doesn't do it so as not to weaken himself during battles. Well either that, or Kubo simply forgot about it...

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*** As for the speed of Ichigo's Bankai I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that, it isn't the fact that its speed dropped, but that Ichigo isn't using its full speed, because his body can't take. During his fight with Byakuya, when he noticed that Byakuya was getting faster, Byakuya corrected him by saying that it's not that he is getting faster, but it's Ichigo who is getting slower. Implied that his Bankai was so fast, that his body was breaking down, because of the strain of using it to move with that isane speed. So it's not that he can't move with that speed, he just doesn't do it so as not to weaken himself during battles. Well either that, or Kubo simply forgot about it...it...
*** This one's actually really simple. It was Ichigo's Hollow that comments on it. Ichigo's maximum speed in Bankai is retardedly high, to the point where he's doing a FlashStep by just moving. However, human bodies - and by extension, the obviously more-flesh-and-blood-than-most-people-give-them-credit-for Shinigami bodies - simply cannot handle that level of strain. Too many factors are involved. At the speeds Ichigo appears to be moving (he is literally showing up in after images around Byakuya at one point. Not just one, but multiple afterimages) he should be flaying the skin off of his muscles and the muscles off of his bones by sheer wind force, not to mention snapping anything that he tries to move to change angles. However, they're superhumans. So, as Ichigo's Hollow explains, he's breaking his bones apart with each motion. He basically is faster than he can handle. That being said. He managed to stand against Byakuya quite well for a good amount of time with his super speed. He should at least be able to use it as a desperation move.
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*** Frankly the only theory I've heard that makes sense to the point where, while still a {{Wallbanger}}, it's considerably less of an {{Asspull}}, is that Orihime was the one to do it. Ichigo was in her rejection barrier when she was having her breakdown, and in the context and order of the panels of the next chapter we notice him hearing her voice before she actually speaks aloud (It even goes out of it's way to show the barrier being formed from his perspective on the first page), and the context of her breakdown kinda says it all. "SAVE US, KUROSAKI-KUN!!!" Basically she managed to reject the fact that he was weaker than Ulquilorra, which followed to the most logical conclusion of using the Hollow for the process.

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*** Frankly the only theory I've heard that makes sense to the point where, while still a {{Wallbanger}}, wall banger, it's considerably less of an {{Asspull}}, is that Orihime was the one to do it. Ichigo was in her rejection barrier when she was having her breakdown, and in the context and order of the panels of the next chapter we notice him hearing her voice before she actually speaks aloud (It even goes out of it's way to show the barrier being formed from his perspective on the first page), and the context of her breakdown kinda says it all. "SAVE US, KUROSAKI-KUN!!!" Basically she managed to reject the fact that he was weaker than Ulquilorra, which followed to the most logical conclusion of using the Hollow for the process.
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*** Except that's not what happened at all. The Min/Maxing was just Aizen's attempt to explain why he couldn't sense Ichigo's spiritual power anymore. He later realizes that that wasn't the case and the reason he could sense him was because Ichigo was just too far above him.

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*** Except that's not what happened at all. The Min/Maxing was just Aizen's attempt to explain why he couldn't sense Ichigo's spiritual power anymore. He later realizes that that wasn't the case and the reason he could couldn't sense him was because Ichigo was just too far above him.
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*** Except that's not what happened at all. The Min/Maxing was just Aizen's attempt to explain why he couldn't sense Ichigo's spiritual power anymore. He later realizes that that wasn't the case and the reason he could sense him was because Ichigo was just too far above him.

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**** The problem with this is that this form of Hichigo is actually quite sentient and not guided by pure instinct. It doesn't just throw around fireballs. If you compare the preview of the episode with the damage this Hichigo does, you'll notice it's a '''huge''' IronicEcho fight-dance of what Ulquiorra did to him, only '''worse'''. The main reason he stabbed Ishida (not-withstanding Ishida's constant rambling addressed to Ichigo) is that "[[LordOfTheRing he stood between a Naz'gul and his prey]]".

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**** The problem with this is that this form of Hichigo is actually quite sentient and not guided by pure instinct. It doesn't just throw around fireballs. If you compare the preview of the episode with the damage this Hichigo does, you'll notice it's a '''huge''' IronicEcho fight-dance of what Ulquiorra did to him, only '''worse'''. The main reason he stabbed Ishida (not-withstanding Ishida's constant rambling addressed to Ichigo) is that "[[LordOfTheRing he stood "[[LordOfTheRings between a Naz'gul the Nazgul and his prey]]".pre]]".



* Does anybody else think that Hollow Ichigo isn't exactly evil? (At least, by Bleach standards.) Ok, let's look at the first time he gains control of Ichigo's body. He taunts him. ''Renji and Rukia'' taunt him. That's pretty much the only negative thing he does. Now, of course, some people argue that he tried beating Byakuya because if Ichigo dies, he dies. Ok. Hollow Ichigo doesn't want to die. Moving on, the only other time we're pretty sure he's in control was when he attacked Hiyori. Of course, he doesn't say any dialogue, so we really can't be sure. Ok, so Hiyori has been trying to ''kill Ichigo'' - you can't really blame the guy for fighting back. I argue that Hollow Ichigo hasn't taken control of Ichigo's body since- Uber Hollow was just berserker.

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* Does anybody else think that Hollow Ichigo isn't exactly evil? (At least, by Bleach standards.) Ok, let's look at the first time he gains control of Ichigo's body. He taunts him. ''Renji and Rukia'' taunt him. That's pretty much the only negative thing he does. Now, of course, some people argue that he tried beating Byakuya because if Ichigo dies, he dies. Ok. Hollow Ichigo doesn't want to die. Moving on, the only other time we're pretty sure he's in control was when he attacked Hiyori. Of course, he doesn't say any dialogue, so we really can't be sure. Ok, so Hiyori has been trying to ''kill Ichigo'' - you can't really blame the guy for fighting back. I argue that Hollow Ichigo hasn't taken control of Ichigo's body since- Uber Hollow was just berserker. berserker.
** Ranji and Rukia ''taunt him''. Urahara and his shop attendants ''taunt'' Renji by calling him a freeloader. Hichigo ''wants to eat Ichigo's soul'', whatever that means. Ichigo knows it best, and by the time he met the Vizard, ''he was scared shitless to use his Bankai because the Hollow would eat his brains''. Giving Ichigo the benefit of the doubt and starting from the premise that it isn't just an irrational fear, ''that thing must do really nasty stuff in him''. Also, without Ichigo to stear him, he would have ate Ichigo ''and Zangetsu''. Also, cut back to how Hollows are created and to ''[[HighOctaneNightmareFuel Orihime's brother]]'', then to how Hollows [[{{Squick}} evolve]] and how most Espada become. Not... [[{{Understatement}} evil]]...?

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*** This is my current theory. Or rather, the idea I support. Hichigo said that if Ichigo snuffs it, he does too, which is why those times he steps in, and eventually tries taking over, to survive. Additionally, we know Hichigo is intelligent, we've seen it, he talks. But, like said above when both personalities battle, he becomes a mindless animal trying to kill everything in his path. Berserker Ichigo is one step above that. He can say a few words, and doesn't just attack senselessly withough control. He knows what he's doing to kill Ulquiorra. Think back, what are Ichigo's "dying" thoughts? "I gotta protect her". What would Hichigo be thinking in this case? Probably something like "OHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAP-We're dying! I don't wanna die!". And what is the result? Hollow Super Mode with one thought. Protect Orihime. ''That's'' why he shanks Ishida, because he's interfering with Ichigo's ability to finish Ulquiorra. Apparrently IFF isn't one of his new hollow powers.

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**** The problem with this is that this form of Hichigo is actually quite sentient and not guided by pure instinct. It doesn't just throw around fireballs. If you compare the preview of the episode with the damage this Hichigo does, you'll notice it's a '''huge''' IronicEcho fight-dance of what Ulquiorra did to him, only '''worse'''. The main reason he stabbed Ishida (not-withstanding Ishida's constant rambling addressed to Ichigo) is that "[[LordOfTheRing he stood between a Naz'gul and his prey]]".
*** This is my current theory. Or rather, the idea I support. Hichigo said that if Ichigo snuffs it, he does too, which is why those times he steps in, and eventually tries taking over, to survive. Additionally, we know Hichigo is intelligent, we've seen it, he talks. But, like said above when both personalities battle, he becomes a mindless animal trying to kill everything in his path. Berserker Ichigo is one step above that. He can say a few words, and doesn't just attack senselessly withough control. He knows what he's doing to kill Ulquiorra. Think back, what are Ichigo's "dying" thoughts? "I gotta protect her". What would Hichigo be thinking in this case? Probably something like "OHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAP-We're "[[OhCrap OHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAPOHCRAP]]-We're dying! I don't wanna die!". And what is the result? Hollow Super Mode with one thought. Protect Orihime. ''That's'' why he shanks Ishida, because he's interfering with Ichigo's ability to finish Ulquiorra. Apparrently IFF isn't one of his new hollow powers.powers.
**** In the subs at least, he doesn't say ''exactly'' that, he says it'll be "troublesome" for him. For all we know, he may have a backup plan or be willing to take over Ichigo's body forever. [[FridgeBrilliance Or he meant this thing will replace both of them]].
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