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** Considering Zog's earlier attitude towards him...
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** Considering Zog's earlier attitude towards him...You actually see him near the climax. Astro's friends took his car so they could get to Metro City. Hamegg tries to convince them to stay, but to no avail.
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**** I know, right? To me, a cooler ending would have been the reveal that Toby fused with the Peacekeeper instead of dying, and Astro has to fight his alternate self.
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* So, okay...Toby sneaks out of his super safe location away from the testing room (Toby's fault, maybe the guard's fault) and into the room where the Peacemaker is being tested. He is able to get very close to the incredibly dangerous machine (totally the guards' fault). The President, against the consultation of literally everyone, puts the highly dangerous red core into the very dangerous robot, necessitating the use of the shield that traps Toby in the room (President's fault). The robot's escape attempt is [[spoiler: what eventually vaporizes and kills Toby]], and there was nothing anyone could do to stop it. So tell me, how can Doctor Tenma sit there and cry "It's all my fault," when he had literally nothing to do with Toby being trapped in that room?
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!!2003 Version
*What was Pluto doing in the finale? [[spoiler:He fell into a Volcano! He died performing a heroic sacrifice. The other robots, Atlas, Hercules, etc I can understanding coming back easily, they had something to rebuild but Pluto melted, or was in such a state where he wouldn't be easily accessible. The only explanation is that Shadow retrieved him but why!? Shadow deedmed in a failure and had a more powerful version of him sitting right there in that Volcano too. Alternatively Shadow built a new Pluto and gave him the original's memories which wouldn't make sense either since he would lack the final step of character development he got and would have still wanted to destroy Astro yet the one single thing he does in terms of Plot is save Astro, something that would have had the same effect if Atlas did so alone.]]
*What was Pluto doing in the finale? [[spoiler:He fell into a Volcano! He died performing a heroic sacrifice. The other robots, Atlas, Hercules, etc I can understanding coming back easily, they had something to rebuild but Pluto melted, or was in such a state where he wouldn't be easily accessible. The only explanation is that Shadow retrieved him but why!? Shadow deedmed in a failure and had a more powerful version of him sitting right there in that Volcano too. Alternatively Shadow built a new Pluto and gave him the original's memories which wouldn't make sense either since he would lack the final step of character development he got and would have still wanted to destroy Astro yet the one single thing he does in terms of Plot is save Astro, something that would have had the same effect if Atlas did so alone.]]
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** Considering Zog's earlier attitude towards him...
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*** Well said, my thoughts exactly. I also am befuddled by the fact that Toby dies, but President Stone gets to live. Who thought that was a good idea?!
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** It was in the original show. Guess they were trying to be loyal.
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** It was in the original show. Guess they were trying to be loyal.loyal.
** In case someone tried to attack from behind (no pun intended)
** In case someone tried to attack from behind (no pun intended)
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** 1: Astro, at his core, is a ''kid'', robot or not. Any kind of crisis got lost in the sheer exuberance of discovering his new powers. 2: Astro doesn't quite ''fight'' the robots, preferring instead to hoist them by their own petards.
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*** It might be that memory didn't have the time to register before his death, so his memories probably come to a sudden stop. He may not even remember the pop quiz from earlier, or it could be the last thing he remembers. We may never know...
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* Why ''does'' he have machine guns in his butt anyway?
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* Why ''does'' he have machine guns in his butt anyway?anyway?
** It was in the original show. Guess they were trying to be loyal.
** It was in the original show. Guess they were trying to be loyal.
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* So what happened to Hamegg? Last time we see the little jerkoid he was being held by Zog.
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* So what happened to Hamegg? Last time we see the little jerkoid he was being held by Zog.Zog.
* Why ''does'' he have machine guns in his butt anyway?
* Why ''does'' he have machine guns in his butt anyway?
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** BrainUploading prior to the accident, like in ''{{Portal}}''?
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** BrainUploading prior to the accident, like in ''{{Portal}}''?''VideoGame/{{Portal}}''?
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*** To me, it's more that the blue (positive) energy is much more "generous" than the red (negative) energy. They're not so much "good" and "evil" as they are "kindness" and "meanness"--you can be angry with someone, or lose your temper, but it doesn't last, and it doesn't feel very good. I don't know quite how to explain it other than that. --Prime Evil
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** Tenma gives a handwave about GeneticMemories stored in hair follicles. Seriously.
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** Tenma gives a handwave about GeneticMemories stored in hair follicles. Seriously.Seriously.
* So what happened to Hamegg? Last time we see the little jerkoid he was being held by Zog.
* So what happened to Hamegg? Last time we see the little jerkoid he was being held by Zog.
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** She sewed a parachute out of bedsheets. :)
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** BrainUploading prior to the accident, like in ''{{Portal}}''?
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** BrainUploading prior to the accident, like in ''{{Portal}}''?''{{Portal}}''?
** Tenma gives a handwave about GeneticMemories stored in hair follicles. Seriously.
** Tenma gives a handwave about GeneticMemories stored in hair follicles. Seriously.
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** Well, regarding the boots, the original manga has shown that Astro can switch between shoes and boots, so it's possible that he can change his clothes.
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**I believe it's stated that the core is capable of limitless renewable energy, which means that if you remove a portion of the energy it would restore it's self back to full, so between the time he used a portion to revive ZOG and fix the phone it restored itself back to full.
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* Where did Tenma get Toby's memories from if Toby's whole body was vapourised?
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* Where did Tenma get Toby's memories from if Toby's whole body was vapourised?vapourised?
** BrainUploading prior to the accident, like in ''{{Portal}}''?
** BrainUploading prior to the accident, like in ''{{Portal}}''?
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* It is resolved that the Good and Evil sides of the energy source are equal. In the movie, we clearly Astro Boy breaking off some of his energy to reactivate ZOG, so Astro Boy is weakened by as much energy as ZOG required to get online. So, when the two energy sources collided, the Good side would be weaker than the Evil side, and so the Good side would be completely cancelled out, but the Evil side would still have some excess energy, equal to the amount of Good energy left in ZOG. Does this make any sense?
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* It is resolved that the Good and Evil sides of the energy source are equal. In the movie, we clearly Astro Boy breaking off some of his energy to reactivate ZOG, so Astro Boy is weakened by as much energy as ZOG required to get online. So, when the two energy sources collided, the Good side would be weaker than the Evil side, and so the Good side would be completely cancelled out, but the Evil side would still have some excess energy, equal to the amount of Good energy left in ZOG. Does this make any sense?sense?
* Where did Tenma get Toby's memories from if Toby's whole body was vapourised?
* Where did Tenma get Toby's memories from if Toby's whole body was vapourised?
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* How exactly would Astro!Toby be surprised to find out that he was a robot after the first day or so? Even accepting that- this being a kid's movie of the non-grossout-humour variety- ''all'' the characters [[NobodyPoops lack normal biological functions]], ''he can't take off his boots''. If he's got Original!Toby's memories, he must surely remember being able to go barefoot...
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* Pretty much all the movie in general. While it wasn't terrible, it felt rushed and didn't take advantage of some possible plot elements. Namely, Astro doesn't even have a bit of a existential crisis when he realizes he's a robot. Him and Elefun just suddenly talking about destiny like it's a casual subject, ''after'' Tenma disowns his robot son! The RRF felt tacked on, as did most of the ''robots are people too'' subject, and seemed to be just a plotdevice for the JerkAss villains. This goes into another complaint, Astro clearly says he won't fight the robots, then proceeds to massacre all but ZOG like generic Mooks without even being the least be bothered that he ''killed'' several robots. Finally, as some have pointed out, the ending seemed terribly rushed, nothing explains how Stone is suddenly fused with PeaceKeeper (which at first seemed only able to merge with other non-organic things) and the alien at the end just seemed too sudden, like some toss up between that or a cheesy ''wave to the screen and fly off'' ending.
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* Pretty much all the movie in general. While it wasn't terrible, it felt rushed and didn't take advantage of some possible plot elements. Namely, Astro doesn't even have a bit of a existential crisis when he realizes he's a robot. Him and Elefun just suddenly talking about destiny like it's a casual subject, ''after'' Tenma disowns his robot son! The RRF felt tacked on, as did most of the ''robots are people too'' subject, and seemed to be just a plotdevice for the JerkAss villains. This goes into another complaint, Astro clearly says he won't fight the robots, then proceeds to massacre all but ZOG like generic Mooks without even being the least be bothered that he ''killed'' several robots. Finally, as some have pointed out, the ending seemed terribly rushed, nothing explains how Stone is suddenly fused with PeaceKeeper (which at first seemed only able to merge with other non-organic things) and the alien at the end just seemed too sudden, like some toss up between that or a cheesy ''wave to the screen and fly off'' ending.ending.
* It is resolved that the Good and Evil sides of the energy source are equal. In the movie, we clearly Astro Boy breaking off some of his energy to reactivate ZOG, so Astro Boy is weakened by as much energy as ZOG required to get online. So, when the two energy sources collided, the Good side would be weaker than the Evil side, and so the Good side would be completely cancelled out, but the Evil side would still have some excess energy, equal to the amount of Good energy left in ZOG. Does this make any sense?
* It is resolved that the Good and Evil sides of the energy source are equal. In the movie, we clearly Astro Boy breaking off some of his energy to reactivate ZOG, so Astro Boy is weakened by as much energy as ZOG required to get online. So, when the two energy sources collided, the Good side would be weaker than the Evil side, and so the Good side would be completely cancelled out, but the Evil side would still have some excess energy, equal to the amount of Good energy left in ZOG. Does this make any sense?
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** Astro had just caught Cora trying to contact the city. If she hadn't told him, he might have teased her about it in front of the others. I forget exactly where the scene fell in the course of Astro's friendship with everyone, but he may have struck her as someone that would keep her secret once he knew how personal it was.
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*** So he has the Zeroth law without the other three?
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* Pretty much all the movie in general. While it wasn't terrible, it felt rushed and didn't take advantage of some possible plot elements. Namely, Astro doesn't even have a bit of a existential crisis when he realizes he's a robot. Him and Elefun just suddenly talking about destiny like it's a casual subject, ''after'' Tenma disowns his robot son! The RRF felt tacked on, as did most of the ''robots are people too'' subject, and seemed to be just a plotdevice for the JerkAss villains. This goes into another complaint, Astro clearly says he won't fight the robots, then proceeds to massacre all but ZOG like generic Mooks without even being the least be bothered that he ''killed'' several robots. Finally, as some have pointed out, the ending seemed terribly rushed, nothing explains how Stone is suddenly fused with PeaceKeeper (which at first seemed only able to merge with other non-organic things) and the alien at the end just seemed too sudden, like some toss up between that or a cheesy ''wave to the screen and fly off'' ending.
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* I have a few problems with this film. One, how did Toby's hat survive when he was vaporized by the robot? Is the hat indestructible? I wanna know! Two, I felt like a lot of scenes were rushed, particularly at the end where Cora meets up with her parents. That went by too fast, what was the deal with that? Three, I was annoyed at about how quickly Cora told Astro about her past. She just met him and she blurts out her biggest secret, a secret she hasn't told the people she's been hanging out with for years. Unless you interpret it as her subconciously wanting someone to know, it doesn't make sense.
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* I have a few problems with this film. One, how did Toby's hat survive when he was vaporized by the robot? Is the hat indestructible? I wanna know! Two, I felt like a lot of scenes were rushed, particularly at the end where Cora meets up with her parents. That went by too fast, what was the deal with that? Three, I was annoyed at about how quickly Cora told Astro about her past. She just met him and she blurts out her biggest secret, a secret she hasn't told the people she's been hanging out with for years. Unless you interpret it as her subconciously wanting someone to know, it doesn't make sense.sense.
* How did Cora go down to the surface? -- @/{{Grandy}}
* How did Cora go down to the surface? -- @/{{Grandy}}
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** GoodIsNotNice. Zog likely thought for greater good, killing was necessary.
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** I don't think so. I was hit by a car at age 11 and all I remember of events is saying to my sister "I'll cross the road now" and then waking up on the pavement on the opposite side of the road. I guess Toby would possibly remember the robot waiting starting to fire and then waking up in his room.
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** I don't think so. I was hit by a car at age 11 and all I remember of events is saying to my sister "I'll cross the road now" and then waking up on the pavement on the opposite side of the road. I guess Toby would possibly remember the robot waiting starting to fire and then waking up in his room.room.
*** It makes sense, possibly because the brain sometimes has a tendency to block out traumatizing memories in order to protect the person's sanity. Or, one could say that Tenma removed the memory of Toby dying so he wouldn't know.
* I have a few problems with this film. One, how did Toby's hat survive when he was vaporized by the robot? Is the hat indestructible? I wanna know! Two, I felt like a lot of scenes were rushed, particularly at the end where Cora meets up with her parents. That went by too fast, what was the deal with that? Three, I was annoyed at about how quickly Cora told Astro about her past. She just met him and she blurts out her biggest secret, a secret she hasn't told the people she's been hanging out with for years. Unless you interpret it as her subconciously wanting someone to know, it doesn't make sense.
*** It makes sense, possibly because the brain sometimes has a tendency to block out traumatizing memories in order to protect the person's sanity. Or, one could say that Tenma removed the memory of Toby dying so he wouldn't know.
* I have a few problems with this film. One, how did Toby's hat survive when he was vaporized by the robot? Is the hat indestructible? I wanna know! Two, I felt like a lot of scenes were rushed, particularly at the end where Cora meets up with her parents. That went by too fast, what was the deal with that? Three, I was annoyed at about how quickly Cora told Astro about her past. She just met him and she blurts out her biggest secret, a secret she hasn't told the people she's been hanging out with for years. Unless you interpret it as her subconciously wanting someone to know, it doesn't make sense.
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** He was built before the Three Laws we required. Says as much himself. Also, it seems that the blue "positive" energy was more neutral where as the red "negative" energy was undeniably evil.
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** I don't think so. I was hit by a car at age 11 and all I remember of events is saying to my sister "I'll cross the road now" and then waking up on the pavement on the opposite side of the road. I guess Toby would possibly remember the robot waiting starting to fire and then waking up in his room.
** I don't think so. I was hit by a car at age 11 and all I remember of events is saying to my sister "I'll cross the road now" and then waking up on the pavement on the opposite side of the road. I guess Toby would possibly remember the robot waiting starting to fire and then waking up in his room.
