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* Was Black Manta suppose to be a sea creature? Was him being a black man a retcon in 1978?

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* Was Black Manta suppose to be a sea creature? Was him being a black man a retcon in 1978?1978?
** No, it was just never revealed what he looked like under his helmet.
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* Was Black Manta supposed to be a sea creature? Was him being a black man a retcon in 1978?

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* Was Black Manta supposed suppose to be a sea creature? Was him being a black man a retcon in 1978?
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*** A few issues in, Aquaman commands some angler fish to provide light for him and Mera. As they near their destination (the location of incredibly dangerous aquatic humanoids) the fish swim away. When questioned by Mera, Aquaman says that their ''survival instinct was overriding his telepathy''.

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*** A few issues in, Aquaman commands some angler fish to provide light for him and Mera. As they near their destination (the location of incredibly dangerous aquatic humanoids) the fish swim away. When questioned by Mera, Aquaman says that their ''survival instinct was overriding his telepathy''.telepathy''.
* Was Black Manta supposed to be a sea creature? Was him being a black man a retcon in 1978?
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*** A few issues in, Aquaman commands some angler fish to provide light for him and Mera. As they near their destination (the location of incredibly dangerous aquatic humanoids) the fish swim away. When questioned by Mera, Aquaman says that their ''survival instinct was overriding his telepathy''.
* Why does DC keep trying to make Aquaman cool by [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands heaping powers on him]] and having him do "badass" things in teamups when the real problem is that AtlantisIsBoring and attempts to make it less boring come off as asinine far more often than not? Really, the best course of action is to put Aquaman, as a concept for a superhero, out of his misery.
** What you said could apply to any other hero who does something "badass.". You're just bashing him to bash him. If the character isn't for you that's fine. But Aquaman has survived over 70 years for a reason.

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*** A few issues in, Aquaman commands some angler fish to provide light for him and Mera. As they near their destination (the location of incredibly dangerous aquatic humanoids) the fish swim away. When questioned by Mera, Aquaman says that their ''survival instinct was overriding his telepathy''.
* Why does DC keep trying to make Aquaman cool by [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands heaping powers on him]] and having him do "badass" things in teamups when the real problem is that AtlantisIsBoring and attempts to make it less boring come off as asinine far more often than not? Really, the best course of action is to put Aquaman, as a concept for a superhero, out of his misery.
** What you said could apply to any other hero who does something "badass.". You're just bashing him to bash him. If the character isn't for you that's fine. But Aquaman has survived over 70 years for a reason.
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* Why does DC keep trying to make Aquaman cool by [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands heaping powers on him]] and having him do "badass" things in teamups when the real problem is that AtlantisIsBoring and attempts to make it less boring come off as asinine far more often than not? Really, the best course of action is to put Aquaman, as a concept for a superhero, out of his misery.

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* Why does DC keep trying to make Aquaman cool by [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands heaping powers on him]] and having him do "badass" things in teamups when the real problem is that AtlantisIsBoring and attempts to make it less boring come off as asinine far more often than not? Really, the best course of action is to put Aquaman, as a concept for a superhero, out of his misery.misery.
** What you said could apply to any other hero who does something "badass.". You're just bashing him to bash him. If the character isn't for you that's fine. But Aquaman has survived over 70 years for a reason.
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*** A few issues in, Aquaman commands some angler fish to provide light for him and Mera. As they near their destination (the location of incredibly dangerous aquatic humanoids) the fish swim away. When questioned by Mera, Aquaman says that their ''survival instinct was overriding his telepathy''.

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*** A few issues in, Aquaman commands some angler fish to provide light for him and Mera. As they near their destination (the location of incredibly dangerous aquatic humanoids) the fish swim away. When questioned by Mera, Aquaman says that their ''survival instinct was overriding his telepathy''.telepathy''.
* Why does DC keep trying to make Aquaman cool by [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands heaping powers on him]] and having him do "badass" things in teamups when the real problem is that AtlantisIsBoring and attempts to make it less boring come off as asinine far more often than not? Really, the best course of action is to put Aquaman, as a concept for a superhero, out of his misery.
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** The Aquaman 2011 series puts a dampener on Aquaman's telepathy, highlighting how the average marine life has a simpler brain structure[[hottip:*:"Dolphin's are a different story."]], and Aquaman's telepathy, rather than the complex manipulation of the thoughtstream exibited by the Martian Manhunter and Saturn Girl, is more akin to the simple manipulation of low-level functions that's part of Princess Projectra's powers (for example). Thus, while Aquaman can essentially ''give a seizure'' to everyone, find easier controlling simple mindsets by melding urges and compulsions to their brain activity.

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** The Aquaman 2011 series puts a dampener on Aquaman's telepathy, highlighting how the average marine life has a simpler brain structure[[hottip:*:"Dolphin's structure[[note]]"Dolphin's are a different story."]], "[[/note]], and Aquaman's telepathy, rather than the complex manipulation of the thoughtstream exibited by the Martian Manhunter and Saturn Girl, is more akin to the simple manipulation of low-level functions that's part of Princess Projectra's powers (for example). Thus, while Aquaman can essentially ''give a seizure'' to everyone, find easier controlling simple mindsets by melding urges and compulsions to their brain activity.

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***** It doesn't even matter if they're the same species or not, as products of the same chain of evolutionary development there's going to be analogs of brains structures in a whites head that Aquaman has found in John's, especially something so sncient ir evolved be their ancestors emereged from the sea. Also the fact that Aquaman was pretty much outclassed on every level except the telepathic one means it makes perfect sense for him to to use to use the one weapon he had that was at least on par with a Martian's own abilities, whether or not he knew for sure it would work since. When it's a life or death situation you try anything that you think has a chance of sucess.

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***** It doesn't even matter if they're the same species or not, as products of the same chain of evolutionary development there's going to be analogs of brains structures in a whites head that Aquaman has found in John's, especially something so sncient ir evolved be their ancestors emereged emerged from the sea. Also the fact that Aquaman was pretty much outclassed on every level except the telepathic one means it makes perfect sense for him to to use to use the one weapon he had that was at least on par with a Martian's own abilities, whether or not he knew for sure it would work since. When it's a life or death situation you try anything that you think has a chance of sucess.success.


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** Perhaps the White Martian had shape changed all the way down to his brain 'chemistry', thus he gave himself the reptillian aspect of the mammal brain that Aquaman then proceeded to fry.
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** With water hand, Aquaman can instantly dehydrate anyone he touches, killing them immediately. Is that not badass enough for you? Or would you like more examples of his awesomeness?

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** With the water hand, Aquaman can instantly dehydrate anyone he touches, killing them immediately. Is that not badass enough for you? Or would you like more examples of his awesomeness?

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** Because he can already give people seizures by taking to the part of their brain that used to be a fish, and has superstrength and superresiliance; hydrokinesis on that level would make him TOO awesome.

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** Because he can already give people seizures by taking to the part of their brain that used to be a fish, and has superstrength and superresiliance; hydrokinesis on that level would make him TOO awesome. awesome.
** With water hand, Aquaman can instantly dehydrate anyone he touches, killing them immediately. Is that not badass enough for you? Or would you like more examples of his awesomeness?
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**** His strength and speed would be pretty much useless against a white Martian, who are at Superman levels in both areas.
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** This is a joke right? My friend, we have THREE pages as to why your question is... needless, to say the least. For your benefit: {{Aquaman}}, HeartIsAnAwesomePower, WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway.

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** This is a joke right? My friend, we have THREE pages as to why your question is... needless, to say the least. For your benefit: {{Aquaman}}, ComicBook/{{Aquaman}}, HeartIsAnAwesomePower, WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway.
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** This is a joke right? My friend, we have THREE pages as to why your question is... needless, to say the least. For your benefit: {{Aquaman}}, HeartIsAnAwesomePower, WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway.

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** The Aquaman 2011 series puts a dampener on Aquaman's telepathy, highlighting how the average marine life has a simpler brain structure, and Aquaman's telepathy, rather than the complex manipulation of the thoughtstream exibited by the Martian Manhunter and Saturn Girl, is more akin to the simple manipulation of low-level functions that's part of Princess Projectra's powers (for example). Thus, while Aquaman can essentially ''give a seizure'' to everyone, find easier controlling simple mindsets by melding urges and compulsions to their brain activity.

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** The Aquaman 2011 series puts a dampener on Aquaman's telepathy, highlighting how the average marine life has a simpler brain structure, structure[[hottip:*:"Dolphin's are a different story."]], and Aquaman's telepathy, rather than the complex manipulation of the thoughtstream exibited by the Martian Manhunter and Saturn Girl, is more akin to the simple manipulation of low-level functions that's part of Princess Projectra's powers (for example). Thus, while Aquaman can essentially ''give a seizure'' to everyone, find easier controlling simple mindsets by melding urges and compulsions to their brain activity.activity.
*** A few issues in, Aquaman commands some angler fish to provide light for him and Mera. As they near their destination (the location of incredibly dangerous aquatic humanoids) the fish swim away. When questioned by Mera, Aquaman says that their ''survival instinct was overriding his telepathy''.
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*** During the infamous ''Detroit League'', Aquaman used telepathy to give a ''mock-seizure'' to the complaining Steel II, and some days later to Vixen, to prevent her from disobeying a direct order. J'onn J'onzz himself, the usually jovial, quiet, philosphical Martian Manhunter, grabbed him by the collar berating him in front of the Detroit Leaguers and the ''Classic League''. {{Zatanna}} herself, shocked and bewildered, after being told from Steel II of his earlier attempt, stammers something about Aquaman having never used his telepathic power on a human being before, noting that the League was descending to madness. We can safely assume that ''human telepathy'' is a big no-no in the heroic community, a violation of the individual free will too blatant to be used if not in the direst emergencies.
*** Compare with Miss Martian, a pacifistic White Martian who, as a part of her pacifistic vows, swore to refrain from even mind-reading a human being without his explicit consent.



** Also, during the 2011 he describes his skirt as ''chain mail''. So, it can be easily some sort of utilitarian Atlantean chain mail armor, used in prisons or for infantry troops that Aquaman used for added protection.



** False premise. Aquaman's telepathy *doesn't* only work on marine life. He's been using it on all kinds of things since at least the 60s ( humans, Kryptonians, Martians, dragons, weird disembodied computer things, undead, Despero. . . ). Its just more powerful on marine life, presumably for mystical reasons.

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** False premise. Aquaman's telepathy *doesn't* only work on marine life. He's been using it on all kinds of things since at least the 60s ( humans, Kryptonians, Martians, dragons, weird disembodied computer things, undead, Despero. . . ). Its just more powerful on marine life, presumably for mystical reasons.reasons.
** The Aquaman 2011 series puts a dampener on Aquaman's telepathy, highlighting how the average marine life has a simpler brain structure, and Aquaman's telepathy, rather than the complex manipulation of the thoughtstream exibited by the Martian Manhunter and Saturn Girl, is more akin to the simple manipulation of low-level functions that's part of Princess Projectra's powers (for example). Thus, while Aquaman can essentially ''give a seizure'' to everyone, find easier controlling simple mindsets by melding urges and compulsions to their brain activity.
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**** Little to none. Even those that are aquatic are limited to land-based water bodies, after all. Maybe some small to moderate measure of influence for the more aquatic species and life stages, tiny amount of influence for the truly amphibious, and none at all with toads.

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**** Little to none. Even those that are aquatic are limited to land-based water bodies, after all. Maybe some small to moderate measure of influence for the more aquatic species and life stages, tiny amount of influence for the truly amphibious, and none at all with toads.toads.
** False premise. Aquaman's telepathy *doesn't* only work on marine life. He's been using it on all kinds of things since at least the 60s ( humans, Kryptonians, Martians, dragons, weird disembodied computer things, undead, Despero. . . ). Its just more powerful on marine life, presumably for mystical reasons.
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** Also, on {{Smallville}} they implied that he chose the colors because, at least in that incarnation of the character, he was attending college at the University of Miami, where the school colors are orange and green.

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** Mermaid mimicry. Green tail, flesh/orange-ish top.

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** Mermaid mimicry. Green tail, flesh/orange-ish top.
** The [[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Legend_of_Aquaman_Vol_1_1 Legend of Aquaman Special]] shows his costume as the standard Atlantean prisoner uniform that he picked up while doing [[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/File:Aquaman_salt_mines.jpg hard labor]]. Vulko asks him several years later why he's still wearing it, and his response is that it's meant to be ironic.
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*** So, out of curiosity, what's his status over amphibians?

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*** So, out of curiosity, what's his status over amphibians?amphibians?
**** Little to none. Even those that are aquatic are limited to land-based water bodies, after all. Maybe some small to moderate measure of influence for the more aquatic species and life stages, tiny amount of influence for the truly amphibious, and none at all with toads.
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** Seing as how Atlanteans are a somewhat magical people, it probably has more to do with magic and spirituality. My guess is that creatures with a stronger spiritual connection to water are easier to command.

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** Seing as how Atlanteans are a somewhat magical people, it probably has more to do with magic and spirituality. My guess is that creatures with a stronger spiritual connection to water are easier to command.command.
*** So, out of curiosity, what's his status over amphibians?
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** Because he can already give people brain aneurysms by taking to the part of their brain that used to be a fish, and has superstrength and superresiliance; hydrokinesis on that level would make him TOO awesome.

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** Because he can already give people brain aneurysms seizures by taking to the part of their brain that used to be a fish, and has superstrength and superresiliance; hydrokinesis on that level would make him TOO awesome.

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* Why don't they just make him have power over the water in a humans body so he can liquidate people and make him cooler than being a guy who can talk to fish?

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* Why don't they just make him have power over the water in a humans body so he can liquidate people and make him cooler than being a guy who can talk to fish?fish?
** Because he can already give people brain aneurysms by taking to the part of their brain that used to be a fish, and has superstrength and superresiliance; hydrokinesis on that level would make him TOO awesome.
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* How is it that Aquaman's telepathy only works on marine life? It can't be because of the relative simplicity of their brains--a whale has a far more complex brain than a minnow, but he commands them both with equal ease. Why can he command sea mammals but only stun land mammals? If it were explicitly magical in nature I could accept AWizardDidIt, but like most PsychicPowers in comics, it's played as semi-scientific.

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* How is it that Aquaman's telepathy only works on marine life? It can't be because of the relative simplicity of their brains--a whale has a far more complex brain than a minnow, but he commands them both with equal ease. Why can he command sea mammals but only stun land mammals? If it were explicitly magical in nature I could accept AWizardDidIt, but like most PsychicPowers in comics, it's played as semi-scientific.semi-scientific.
** Seing as how Atlanteans are a somewhat magical people, it probably has more to do with magic and spirituality. My guess is that creatures with a stronger spiritual connection to water are easier to command.
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** I figured it was because giving somebody a ''seizure'', as he did (not a concussion), is a pretty brutal attack, and Arthur's one of the good guys. It's not something to trot out for just any old villain, but a hyperspeed Martian is a valid target for bringing out "the big guns".
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** Mermaid mimicry. Green tail, flesh/orange-ish top.

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** Mermaid mimicry. Green tail, flesh/orange-ish top.top.
* How is it that Aquaman's telepathy only works on marine life? It can't be because of the relative simplicity of their brains--a whale has a far more complex brain than a minnow, but he commands them both with equal ease. Why can he command sea mammals but only stun land mammals? If it were explicitly magical in nature I could accept AWizardDidIt, but like most PsychicPowers in comics, it's played as semi-scientific.
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* Why don't they just make him have power over the water in a humans body so he can liquidate people and make him cooler than being a guy who can talk to fish?
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** I always assumed it was something that worked on Martians but not humans. (Yes, humans evolved from aquatic life, but it's along a completely different evolutionary path. There's no reason the portions of our minds that come from aquatic ancestors couldn't be too small or unimportant for him to affect, or undergone so much change over the ages that they no longer count.) After all, he never uses that ability on anyone else, even when it was the same writer on the title.
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** Actually, he does use telepathy fairly regularly. It just gets forgotten in the rush. My own opinion is that the main thing restricting his telepathic potency is lack of practice and training. Hence he mostly uses it either within its specialty ( aquatic life ), which comes easy, or when he's pant-wettingly desperate ( evil Martians, Millenium Giants, etc ).

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* Orange shirt, green pants. That is all.

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\n* Related to above: ...Aquaman can attack parts of your brain with aquatic ancestors? [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower Dude. Why doesn't he use that more?]]

* Orange shirt, green pants. That is all.all.
** Mermaid mimicry. Green tail, flesh/orange-ish top.
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*Orange shirt, green pants. That is all.

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